What is wrong with Free Hosting ?

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Hi
why spending money on websites like Hostgator ...
what is wrong with free ones like 000webhost.com etc
thanks
#free #hosting #wrong
  • Profile picture of the author my1ken
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    • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
      Hi derprinz!
      It's simple.
      Nothing can beats the professionalism of paid web hosting!
      With paid hosting you have also 24 hour support and a great service!
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Can be yanked at any given time.

    For many years, I had a ton of free Blogger blogs ranked well for a number of different niches and then Google (since they owned Blogger) started messing around with everyone's blogs and rankings.

    It's never a good idea to build your business on a spot that can be bulldozed without notice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Matt Maiden View Post

      For many years, I had a ton of free Blogger blogs ranked well for a number of different niches and then Google (since they owned Blogger) started messing around with everyone's blogs and rankings.
      That's to do with Google's ownership of it, and Blogspot's terms of service, rather than intrinsically because it's free, though, I think?

      People using the perfectly adequate, reliable, advertising-free free hosting at byethost.com don't report such problems.

      Originally Posted by Matt Maiden View Post

      It's never a good idea to build your business on a spot that can be bulldozed without notice.
      Agreed - but other than Blogger, it's not too easy to find examples of that phenomenon, surely, Matt? :confused:

      Originally Posted by Matt Maiden View Post

      You can get hosting for less than $9 a month.
      You can even get it for $1 per month at Hostica. And there's a huge number of hosts available at $4.95 per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author derprinz
    yeh right
    but for someone who want to start and don't have enough money
    isn't it good to buy a domain and use the free hosting ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by derprinz View Post

      but for someone who want to start and don't have enough money isn't it good to buy a domain and use the free hosting?
      Yes, it can be.

      But be careful where. Look at places like Byethost, which is longstanding, has an excellent reputation, and where you can easily upgrade to paid hosting later without needing to move your sites.

      "Starting from zero" isn't a lie. But it requires care, knowledge and research to avoid later problems and inconvenience.

      Starting with a "free autoresponder", on the other hand, almost always is a mistake; but that's a very different matter altogether, and the reasons are entirely different.
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      • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Yes, it can be.

        But be careful where. Look at places like Byethost, which is longstanding, has an excellent reputation, and where you can easily upgrade to paid hosting later without needing to move your sites.
        I absolutely agree,is one of the best free web hosts!
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by derprinz View Post

      yeh right
      but for someone who want to start and don't have enough money
      isn't it good to buy a domain and use the free hosting ?
      Sorry Alexa.... OP, Not really, You don't own it. I've heard tonnes of horror stories of people building free blogger blogs, earning good money then waking up and it's not there anymore. It's not worth the hassle either of having to change it all over when you want it to be your own. Why not just spend the few dollars on a domain and the few dollars a month on the hosting? You are then in control and it belongs to you.

      If you don't think you can make this small investment back then maybe you should not do this.

      It's just my opinion, I like the fact I have ownership over what I spend a lot of time working on. Listen to Alexa though, she knows her stuff better than me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    You can get hosting for less than $9 a month. Surely you can think of a few things that you spend that much on during the month that you can cut back on.

    But to answer your question, yes you could purchase a domain through Blogger for around $10 and get free Blogger hosting. You would still get free hosting but the url is you domain and will make your site look more professional than the free version.
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  • Profile picture of the author derprinz
    so "starting from zero ,blablabla..." is just a lie ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    Nope its not a lie. Build your business on Facebook first. Again they change the rules a lot so you have to be careful.

    The problem with free hosting is they do not have the finances to keep up the software etc so often get compromised first.

    Quentin
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
    Hmmmmm....

    OK, get out your bashing sticks... I'll wait for the blows to begin...

    • I realize that LOTS of people WANT to make money online.
    • I realize that MANY of those people don't have a lot to start with.

    If you TRULY don't have $5 - $10 per month for hosting, that means you DON'T have $10 (the higher number) worth of DISPOSABLE INCOME.

    If your budget is honestly that tight, PLEASE consider doing something that earns you more money right away. Something that isn't a risk. Something that won't evaporate overnight and leave you in a mess.

    The lure of riches by pushing a button is strong and lots of people around here do very well.

    That said, they also come by the thousands every year, buy WSO after WSO and surrender penniless.

    You've got to have a *little* disposable income to build a reliable business. You COULD start with free domains/blogs, etc. to earn that disposable income - and some will argue they make a zillion dollars using nothing but free stuff. That's cool.

    However, they will likely sell you a WSO that tells you how too.

    If you are seriously that tight on cash, your basic needs are likely not being met - food, shelter, Diet Pepsi- (ok, that last on is one of MY basic needs, but you get the point).

    If you're spending money on IM products but you can't pay your bills, you may want to rethink it a bit and try to bring in more reliable cash flow until you have a little disposable income.

    This is not supposed to be a rant, and I know there will be those that disagree, but I don't like seeing people spending cash they don't have.

    OK - bash away.

    All success,

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    • Profile picture of the author rts2271
      You get what you pay for, and not just in terms of cash, but due dilligence. There are free providers out there, you just have to do your research and know when it's time to pony up for a more commercially biased account.
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    • Profile picture of the author A Bary
      Originally Posted by Gary King View Post

      Hmmmmm....

      OK, get out your bashing sticks... I'll wait for the blows to begin...

      • I realize that LOTS of people WANT to make money online.
      • I realize that MANY of those people don't have a lot to start with.

      If you TRULY don't have $5 - $10 per month for hosting, that means you DON'T have $10 (the higher number) worth of DISPOSABLE INCOME.

      If your budget is honestly that tight, PLEASE consider doing something that earns you more money right away. Something that isn't a risk. Something that won't evaporate overnight and leave you in a mess.

      The lure of riches by pushing a button is strong and lots of people around here do very well.

      That said, they also come by the thousands every year, buy WSO after WSO and surrender penniless.

      You've got to have a *little* disposable income to build a reliable business. You COULD start with free domains/blogs, etc. to earn that disposable income - and some will argue they make a zillion dollars using nothing but free stuff. That's cool.

      However, they will likely sell you a WSO that tells you how too.

      If you are seriously that tight on cash, your basic needs are likely not being met - food, shelter, Diet Pepsi- (ok, that last on is one of MY basic needs, but you get the point).

      If you're spending money on IM products but you can't pay your bills, you may want to rethink it a bit and try to bring in more reliable cash flow until you have a little disposable income.

      This is not supposed to be a rant, and I know there will be those that disagree, but I don't like seeing people spending cash they don't have.

      OK - bash away.

      All success,

      Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Alexa, other than the free hosting sites I would use back in the 90's, Blogger is the only free hosting service that I have used recently (last few years) so I can only speak from my experiences with them.

    However, including all of the different free sites I have used since I started way back then, each and every one of them at some point, did some form of "bulldozing".

    ...Blogspot's terms of service, rather than intrinsically because it's free, though, I think?
    Well the terms allowed for commercial use and they even encouraged it providing the user with easy ways to add Adsense and later Amazon Gadgets (their version of a Widget).

    I think the only way the terms would come into play, would be that because it was a free service, they could at their own discretion take back or change the service without giving notice. Which is what they did.

    All of the free providers I have used throughout the years have made changes big enough that my hard work went down the drain at least once while using them.

    Now I make sure to use a paid service that comes with terms (contract) that gives me some rights in the event that the provider does anything that destroys or hinders my work.

    My limited knowledge of all of the free places now is probably a result of my past bad experiences with free hosting. Your suggestion of byethost.com, which I have never heard of, just goes to show that I am not aware of all of the free stuff out there now.

    It is possible to start with nothing because I have. I have made a lot of money using free services. I would suggest trying to avoid relying on a service that has the ability to pull everything out from under you on a whim.

    Gary, maybe people without disposable income are coming online where they can create extra income without mowing lawns.

    I think that it's fine for people to try and make extra money without investing money if they can invest time.

    But again, if someone has around $5 or $10 a month for hosting, I really think that you should try to make that investment.

    It's like paying for the gas for the lawn mower that gets you the lawn mowing money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      It is short sighted to plan a business and refuse to buy the basic tools of a domain and hosting.

      Some visitors will recognize the free hosting and understand free blogs and web 2.0 sites - and they will not believe your claims of success or earnings or experience.

      Some of the free platforms are excellent for focusing attention and funneling traffic to your main site(s) but relying on these free platforms for your business is walking on quicksand.

      I agree with Gary - if you can't find $10 a month to start a business, you don't need to be starting a business until you get your finances in better shape.

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        It is short sighted to plan a business and refuse to buy the basic tools of a domain and hosting.

        Some visitors will recognize the free hosting and understand free blogs and web 2.0 sites - and they will not believe your claims of success or earnings or experience.

        Some of the free platforms are excellent for focusing attention and funneling traffic to your main site(s) but relying on these free platforms for your business is walking on quicksand.

        I agree with Gary - if you can't find $10 a month to start a business, you don't need to be starting a business until you get your finances in better shape.

        kay
        Kay - you hit the nail on the head. There are certain things you may have to get if you are serious about starting a business. If you are starting out, you will have to make some investments. Don't quit your day job until you get it rolling. In the end to be perfectly honest, a quality host site is really worth the money.
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    • Profile picture of the author chrisscott
      After so much increase in the use of web now a days, the competition between web hosting companies is so much high they offer best hosting services including thousands of pre-installed apps in cheap prices also give special offers after few days.

      You can get a top notch hosting under $7 and a .com domain under $8. If you can start you web site in $15 which is by any means a cheap price then why go for free hosting.

      Also if you are planning to start your business on a free host the you can never gain trust from your visitors because today's web surfer is very intelligent. He / she can quickly assess it and won't buy any thing from you free hosted site.

      I am using hosting services of a top web hosting company for last 3 years and hardly encounter any problem yet. There support is fantastic.

      So in my opinion never ever go for free web hosting if planning to start a business or internet marketing site yes you can use free web hosting for testing some thing if you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by Matt Maiden View Post

      Gary, maybe people without disposable income are coming online where they can create extra income without mowing lawns.

      I think that it's fine for people to try and make extra money without investing money if they can invest time.

      But again, if someone has around $5 or $10 a month for hosting, I really think that you should try to make that investment.

      It's like paying for the gas for the lawn mower that gets you the lawn mowing money.
      I gotcha Matt... and yes, I understand they are maybe trying to avoid the elegant lifestyle of burger flipping (yes, I've done it too- a long, long time ago, but I wore the paper hat proudly).

      If they are experimenting, awesome. I just don't want to see someone that isn't making ends meet (read: desperate) killing themselves when they could go get some income from a job and take the pressure off.

      THEN, go back and launch their venture.

      I'm absolutely not trying to discourage anyone. Just BE SMART and take care of the basics so the hole doesn't get deeper if you're already struggling.
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    One of the main problems with free hosting is the allowable size of files that you can upload. Additionally, many severely restrict the amount of MySQL disk space you are alloted. Many do not allow outgoing emails if any...and you get little to no support and horrible uptime.
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  • Profile picture of the author davebr52
    I'd say hosting at $4 a month for several domains is better than free! You get all the professional back-up no ads and have a solid platform to build on.
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    • Profile picture of the author bradlean
      Thanks for the great post!

      Anyway, can i ask?

      Have you encounter byethost?

      Does byethost limit your uploding w/ regards about wordpress plugin?

      Hope for a reply.

      Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author bradlean
      Thanks for the advice!

      Originally Posted by davebr52 View Post

      I'd say hosting at $4 a month for several domains is better than free! You get all the professional back-up no ads and have a solid platform to build on.
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  • Profile picture of the author faceblogger
    Low Quality
    Uncertainty
    No proper agreement
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmaind
    Imagine this, you decide to launch a product/service, you design a website, written a sales letter. Done all necessary things.

    Then you setup an advertisement on adword to promote your service/ product and as soon as your advertisement is live your host goes down.

    And top of all, you come to know this after few hours..

    Now tell me what is going to happen?

    Nothing special, soon you will run out of business ....


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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    The number one problem you can encounter in free hosting is its reliability. You might not be able to have them just when you need them, uptime not guaranteed and so does the support.


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  • Profile picture of the author vishalduggal
    Best disadvantage of free hosting is that that they are free :-)
    Others are less Features
    Ad banners
    overcrowded servers
    No support.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lazy
    What everyone else said.

    1. 24/7 support
    2. No banners
    3. total control
    4. unlimited bandwidth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    People using the perfectly adequate, reliable, advertising-free free hosting at byethost.com don't report such problems.
    I 100% agree with Alexa on this. I used their free service to get started with and was fantastic, really.

    As far as I remember you could add 50 sub-domains, unlimited Mysql databases and you could test sites out using their own top-level domains before investing in your own for that site.

    I eventually upgraded to their paid service when I grew out of it and that was amazingly easy, they basically did all of the import/export for me - databases and all. All worked perfectly well.

    I upgraded to a paid service which included a .com domain name for $36 a year (price may be a little higher these days)

    It's a good place to start if you are keeping costs to a minimum as you can always upgrade.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnyeo90
    Im using 000webhosting now..but i just buy myself another hosting company for a year.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonWright
      Originally Posted by YoichiSpeaks View Post

      You get what you pay for.
      I agree, it's just not smart business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
    I recently wrote a blog post about it. IT is just a blog - no sales page, but it mentions some of disadvantages about free hosting. But, it may be the best option for those on a tight budget. here is the blog post: Information You Need to Know About Blog Hosts More Income Blogging | More Income Blogging
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberSorcerer
    There is a lot of talk about free host and whether you should start out with them or not. Again, I must say it's all up to the individual on whether anything will come from it or not.

    I've helped newbies get started on blogspot, byethost, 000web, and a few others; because, they were pretty much living on ramen noodles and couldn't afford ANYTHING. Yes, even $4.95 is a lot when that could be a lot of noodles and tea which is a sure thing for feeding the family.

    The thing to remember about these is to only stay with them until you've made enough money to purchase hosting and a domain. Byethost is a little different because they ARE a good host and I still have FREE sites making money that I've hosted their.

    The golden rule in Internet Marketing, don't ask questions on if something works, doesn't work, how do I make it work, etc, etc, JUST DO IT!!!

    The outcome will provide YOUR OWN ANSWER and you've learned something ALL ON YOUR OWN.
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