Serious Increase In Crap..

What do you mean? lol

just guess but imagine that the amount of those attempting to be bloggers/IM'er's.. who invest money in a product, and who then make their investment back is between 2 and 25%...

It's just people, who are barely able to function as an effective employee somewhere, translating their stellar work ethic into creating their own product and running their own business.

Andrew Hansen just sent a great email on this subject, he went to a London IM convention and watched newbies left and right falling for presentations from "GURU'S" who sell crap that they never will use, and does not work. I Need Your Help This Time This is the link to that post, , its a sad statement on the rehash crap industry being pumped out.

Cheers for the post I'll take a look! - Yeah recently things seem to be getting worse, people who I used to respect online are going spammy!

Yeah definitely, but no matter what you're doing and how much your making if some guru tells you you can make $xx,xxx in 24 hours using this never before seen method etc then it often sparks some interest, although I never believe it It does make me want to know what he's going on about.

I've actually unsubscribed from pretty much every list now so I can concentrate on my business and not get sidetracked by spammy emails :-)

No, things are NOT getting worse.

The only thing that's changed is your perception; you are only more aware of what's out there. Nothing wrong with that of course, and it can appear to be very real to the observer.

In fact, I would be so bold as to suggest things are getting better overall. Why? Because more people are familiar with IM than ever before. That's not to say there isn't crap out there, but that it may be a slightly higher level of crap; at least in relation to crappy products.

On the other hand, it could be that so many more people are "trying this IM thing" and pumping out more products that there ARE more products out there. But as a percentage, my guess is that the crap is about the same as it always has been.

As for getting refunds right away? Good for you! That's exactly what you should be doing. I wouldn't accuse you of being a serial refunder if the stuff you bought was that bad. Maybe, just maybe, a serial buyer who needs to look at sales pages with a more critical eye, but not a serial refunder.

All the best,
Michael

Well, in my opinion everything has a cause. What would be the cause for this? Let's think a bit. Take a newbie internet marketer, he doesn't know much... what does he do? he starts reading reports and techniques for months but doesn't take action...

Then one day he reads that the easiest way to make real money is to ... TADA... create a product... then he thinks about all those guides he just read and thinks "Hey I can create a killer product right now and get rich!! Yay" then he does that, invents some figures (he actually didn't make a single dime online) and hopes for people to buy it, when for his surprise, many people buy it because they believe what he claims.

Sorry, but this is the truth...

And no, as some might think, I'm not one of those guys, I haven't created a product just yet.. not until I find something really worth it (which can be pretty soon, but it won't be a product, just a website)

If there's no one buying those crappy stuffs, the seller won't be making any money and they won't want to come out with another stuff which is going to promise us the sun and the moon.

So I think buyers has the responsibility too, in terms of buying stuffs. Why buying a glittering product here and day?

Buyers should learn to build a solid business with a strong funnels behind their front-end products.

That's just my humble opinion.

Aiden Chong

I am a new bee and while spending just a couple of days, I came to know so many things.

1: A person selling something with only One Page and that page is normally available for sale on some website Buy and Sale after a while.
Come on Buyers, This is your responsibility to identify the real people and Scammers.

2: Lust of easy money making is what kills the new bee.

3: I must congratulate and appreciate those Marketer's, With just a page they earn alot and yes they are right. Earn 1000$/Day and they are doing it. (Bravo). They are not lying to you. They are making that by selling crap to you.

4: Please there is no short cut in life...

I don't plan on dumping 'crap' on folks to earn a quick buck. I can make 100 times more money by creating real value to those who are smart enough to act on it.

Past few months? Lol. I've been saying that since the day i started with AM 6 years ago.

I would say buying a product out of curiosity and then requesting a refund is not a good thing to do. If you are going to make a conscious decision to buy a product out of curiosity you need to take ownership of the fact that the money you spent was disposable.

You did not buy based on value, so it is weird to say that you refunded because of value.

Anyway, I believe in refunds and and giving no questions asked refunds. I have actually requested refunds before. So, it is not bad to ask for a refund, but I do think it is bad to ask for a refund of a product you bought out of curiosity. It would be different if you said you bought based on the value you thought you would receive. But that's not the case.

Don't join the multitude to commit sin. Don't join the band wagon, don't join the herd no matter how attractive it is inasmuch as it is not ethical, legal, right, proper, praiseworthy, good...

You can just rant about it and move on.

i have bought any that crap for years...nor would I....When you have been in it long enough you can see the B*S* a mile off.

I have bougbt amazing money making systems for a ot of money but they really work. But all these ebooks/DVD's seminras pushed to the masses can never work!

Yes for sure everyone is turning to the net to make some cash in the current economical climate and yes there are more and more trashy looking products out there.

Also even the site that look prof and some of the top gurus are resorting to selling trashy products which i find really hard to believe but it's true.

Also there are the select few who are serial refunders which makes me laugh as there's not much you can do to stop them using your software unless it's a sort of sub based product.

eBooks, eBooks eBooks i've seen soo many that i'll be suprised if i've not seen them all and some of the material i wouldn't wipe my ar5e with

Mark, this is a sign that you're growing in your IM knowledge.
You have probably learned a lot of what's already in those books and, therefore, understand that these are geared towards newbies who don't know a thing yet.

This happened to me several years ago. I used to purchase stuff from many big IM gurus, and spent a pretty penny too***LOL***but began to realize that their information wasn't getting me any closer to earning real money.

This is when I started thinking a lot more critically about what I wanted to do and how I wanted to do it. I decided to only purchase information that could help me get better at a specific method or strategy that I was already working on.

If you keep chasing every new system that comes out, you'll get no where fast.

Blah blah blah.

Nothing else to do so I should just go to warrior forum to trash IM products.

C'mon guys how many more of these "IM is filling up with crappy products" treads do we need?

I can swear that I have seen about 5 of these in the last 1 week.

OP - read:

http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...unt-until.html

And as stated above, WHY do we need yet another thread bashing the IM niche???

Rob

EDIT: I'm getting so damn sick of seeing these. I'm reporting every single one I see. They don't help anyone make money (which is the point of the forum) and they just clutter things up with rampant negativity.