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Hi guys,

Since everybody now days is in to CPA or getting in to it, do you think is still profitable to promote clickbank products?
Let me know your opinions.

Manuel
#clickbank #dead
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Williams
    Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

    do you think is still profitable to promote clickbank products?

    Yes. Assuming you stay away from high-gravity products.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

    Hi guys,

    Since everybody now days is in to CPA or getting in to it, do you think is still profitable to promote clickbank products?
    Let me know your opinions.

    Manuel
    ClickBank is very much alive. Take it from the oldest existing registered member.
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    • Profile picture of the author GatoFelix
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      ClickBank is very much alive. Take it from the oldest existing registered member.
      Which one, in your opinion, is the most accurate way to know if a product in clickbank is worth to promote?
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      • Profile picture of the author rolough
        Do you guys find that you sell more clickbank products through your minisites (squeeze pages, etc.) or through your list?
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      • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
        Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

        Which one, in your opinion, is the most accurate way to know if a product in clickbank is worth to promote?
        I think that it is important to know the product that you are promoting. Don't promote a product that you don't believe in ad don't promote a product just because everybody else is. Promote products that will be an asset to your list or website visitors.

        You should also test market the products and different promotion techniques. If you have a list, don't be afraid to ask them what types of products that they want you to seek out for them.

        Any other approach is a recipe for disaster.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Slin View Post

        I only use gravity to see if the product is making sales.
        "Good luck with that", as they say, Slin - because there isn't actually a way to tell that from gravity figures. There's no correlation between gravity and numbers of sales, and there's no correlation between gravity and conversion-rates, either. If you want to read more about gravity, I think this post will get you started on the subject!

        Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

        Which one, in your opinion, is the most accurate way to know if a product in clickbank is worth to promote?
        This is very much The Big Question, and is the one over which so many struggling Clickbank affiliates have gone wrong. My own suggested answer to it is in this post.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
    It's not that CB is dead, it's my order form impressions that are dead
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam James
    I still use clickbank with great success, why do you think it is dead or dying?
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    • Profile picture of the author GatoFelix
      Originally Posted by Adam James View Post

      I still use clickbank with great success, why do you think it is dead or dying?
      Personally, I hope ClickBank will stay forever, because is a great alternative for affiliate marketers, and is NOT such a headache to start promoting their products, unlike some CPA networks that are close to asking you for straight A`s in your college grades in order to let you become a member.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Internet marketing is dead. Everybody should go get a job at Wal*Mart.
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    • Profile picture of the author GatoFelix
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      Internet marketing is dead. Everybody should go get a job at Wal*Mart.
      LOL !!! I guess we all have no choice but to start sending those job applications!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dwayne K
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      Internet marketing is dead. Everybody should go get a job at Wal*Mart.
      And when 'Wal*Mart' is dead we're Scr*wed
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  • Profile picture of the author winebuddy
    I only do about $5k/month in sales from CB - so yeah - I think its about DEAD.
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  • Profile picture of the author UsuiKenta
    Maybe not as active as before when there were only a few people promoting CB product/services, but it's still there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    No. Clickbank is far from dead. Just like in the past you will have to spend some quality time finding the right products though. That's not really anything new. High conversion plus a high quality product combined will take some digging but if you spend that extra time it will pay dividends if you are proficient at all at driving targeted traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

    Hi guys,

    Since everybody now days is in to CPA or getting in to it, do you think is still profitable to promote clickbank products?
    Let me know your opinions.

    Manuel
    Funny question. Generally, I stear clear from threads like this...but I feel
    like having a bit of fun before I get back to making money on clickbank.

    Oops. Well, I just spilled the beans right there.

    People who are jumping on the CPA bandwagon are generally people who
    don't know how to market. A lot of the CPA converts were people who
    couldn't make money WITH digital products, so they figure they'd have
    better luck with CPA.

    I don't get CPA. It takes just as much work and effort to convert CPA
    leads and get 30 $1 leads to make up one $30 clickbank commission &
    you will always come out ahead faster with digital products because
    you're not putting in 30x the effort to get the same result.

    This whole CPA phenomenon is about as bad as the offline marketing
    craze....a bunch of people who don't know how to market for themselves
    trying to sell marketing packages to suckers who don't know any better.

    Anyways, I make money passively from CB everyday, and on my way
    to my first $100 day (consistent days). I couldn't imagine trying to do
    that with CPA leads -- it would be a b**ch.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
    Can anyone recommend a good CB-informational-tutorial-help-me-out-and-make-sales ebook or something similar?
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg D
      Originally Posted by TheGrooby View Post

      Can anyone recommend a good CB-informational-tutorial-help-me-out-and-make-sales ebook or something similar?
      What exactly are you asking for?

      Greg
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      • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
        Originally Posted by Greg D View Post

        What exactly are you asking for?

        Greg
        I'm asking for help in selling CB products. Help as in a little bit of guidance, not build me the site and content and do all the work...
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        • Profile picture of the author wenzel777
          Clickbank is far from dead. I think it's one of the best places for new IM'ers to start learning some of the overall marketing practices that make money each and every day. Clickbank has many benefits above just $. It teaches you how to do market research...niche research...you can try your hand at some free methods like article marketing & learn some SEO at the same time (something that is very, very far from being dead)...maybe even some youtube marketing, squeeze pages, landing pages....and once you learn how to sell some products effectively, you branch out into list-building, auto-responders....and so on & so forth...you get the point. Even if Clickbank was dead, it'll teach you some of the MOST beneficial practices for successful marketing...you just have to put in the time, the work & in the long run, it can take you to another area of marketing that you never considered in the first place. Dead? Nah.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    PM me, i'll teach you some simple ways to use article marketing to promote CB products if you're interested.

    Heck, i'll teach you for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Last I checked, Clickbank was very much alive and kicking. While there is a lot more garbage being sold these days over there, it is still a viable marketplace and there are many great products there that you can promote (if you look hard enough).

    Don't worry about CPA networks replacing or eliminating Clickbank; while CPA is extremely lucrative and does far more volume than Clickbank, many of the networks are tightening their rules for admission (as you've noted), and Clickbank is the total opposite of that. Of course, CPA offers are completely different from the products that Clickbank is selling, and rules and procedures need to be in place for CPA to ensure that fraudulent activity doesn't take place.

    Clickbank is a marketplace that sells digital products, so the more people they can get to promote their products for them, the better off they'll be. This is an 'apples and oranges' comparison, and both have their respective roles to play in the online marketplace; there is very little overlap between the two.

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Yup, it's dead. And not just that CPA, affiliate marketing, blogging, forums and everything related to IM is dead.

    Time to get back to the awesome 9-5

    Had fun guys but I gotta get to work on time or my manager will be pissed off!
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Ha Mohammad always has funny posts.

    I only use gravity to see if the product is making sales.

    Even then, main thing to look at?

    What do you think of the sales page.

    Use your brain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas_Banks
    I certainly hope that ClickBank has not died. I'm going to be hurting if it did!

    Seriously, though, I'm not even sure what that means...clickbank being dead. As an affiliate marketer your job is to build a list around a certain topic or niche and then provide that list with good, valuable information and recommend products that they would find useful. Whether they come from clickbank or anywhere else, you have to understand the product you are promoting. Is it high quality? Is the commission right? Do they have a funnel on which you collect as well? Do they pre-sell? Is their sales copy great? And again, most important...is it valuable to your subscribers? If you don't recommend relevant, high quality products to your subscribers then ClickBank's pulse rate is not the problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Don't believe the devious and scheming marketers that keep saying that "this or that" is dead every few months, it's more than likely a thinly-disguised marketing ploy designed to sell you on their latest and greatest product. It's especially funny when the same marketers change their opinions on what is working (and what isn't), directly contradicting what they had said earlier!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
    Questions and comments regarding selecting click bank products and especially clickbank gravity come up here on a regular basis - so I have a standard reply which I hope will help.

    When it comes to Clickbank knowledge there are two Warriors whose knowledge really is outstanding - I recommend looking at posts made by them for helpful and above all accurate information:

    View Profile: Alexa Smith

    View Profile: Harvey.Segal

    A very helpful post on product selection (By Alexa Smith) can be found here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

    A useful explanation of what gravity is actually telling you is here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2495251

    And for information from Clickbank for affiliates look here:

    Help Center: Affiliate Help Index
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkWrites
    I do fair with Clickbank... would like to do better. Even so, my Clickbank numbers are pretty much the same now, or even a little above, as they were a year ago. So, no... I don't think it's dead.
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  • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
    Clickbank is not dead. There are just too many products and too many affiliates. Most of them are just trying ways to make quick cash and end up writing crappy content making crappy websites etc etc = No sales at all.

    I'd say that in Clickbank 90% of the products are absolute PLR junk. 8% have high competition that requires good experience to make sales. 2% can be easily sold with less competition (which according to most is "wow" but "i won't take action" kinda stuff).

    Requires lots of research to find the products that you could easily sell through your website/blog. I still think making $15K - $30K / month with clickbank products is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author gigabit_2
    Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

    Hi guys,

    Since everybody now days is in to CPA or getting in to it, do you think is still profitable to promote clickbank products?
    Let me know your opinions.

    Manuel
    YES.... So dead

    J/K not dead
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  • Profile picture of the author Dwayne K
    Let others think it's dead and you
    can continue to use it like lots of
    other smart marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author dawnbreaker
    Hence everyone is driving me to CPA... Can someone give me a link of a thread discussing a thread of CPA or how does CPA works?..

    I want to know how does CPA works because I always hears it here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob141
    Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

    Hi guys,

    Since everybody now days is in to CPA or getting in to it, do you think is still profitable to promote clickbank products?
    Let me know your opinions.

    Manuel
    I find it hard to makes ANY sales with Clickbank nowadays. Their tracking system is so bad that you can't trust it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nate Simms
    I certainly hope it isn't dead.

    ...I'm about a week away from releasing my first ever product on ClickBank. I'm a little biased, of course, but this product (EBook) has the chance to be highly successful if I can build the traffic to it.

    LONG LIV CB! Haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg D
    Alexa, great posts on the 'gravity'. Nice explanation as well.

    I also hope it is not dead. I am also about to launch a product. I chose CB for the simple fact that there are something like a 100k affiliates.

    We are all in this to make money. Having an instant 'potential' army of affiliates is very appealing.

    What I think is that other affiliate marketplaces are on the rise. It may take a while before the sheer numbers are close to CB, but the quality and pay structure might be there.

    After a few months, placing your product on other marketplaces as well might be a good idea.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rob141
    I got 50 affiliates on CB, did they sell anything? Did they bugger. Not one sodding sale.

    Still it was a learning experience.
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      Originally Posted by Rob141 View Post

      did they sell anything? Did they bugger.
      To be fair to them, one could take the view that what they do in their own time is really their own business ...
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      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        To be fair to them, one could take the view that what they do in their own time is really their own business ...
        ROFL. Very risqué for you, Alexa.
        Thanks for making me spew hot tea all over myself.

        Originally Posted by GatoFelix View Post

        Hi guys,

        Since everybody now days is in to CPA or getting in to it, do you think is still profitable to promote clickbank products?
        Let me know your opinions.

        Manuel
        I hope so, because I'm just in the process of going full-steam ahead with email list-building and Clickbank product promotion myself, having come from a predominantly non list-building AdSense & Amazon Associates background.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post


          I hope so, because I'm just in the process of going full-steam ahead with email list-building and Clickbank product promotion myself, having come from a predominantly non list-building AdSense & Amazon Associates background.
          There's a definite and defined place for both CPA offers and digital product affiliate programs like Clickbank in the market. These are two separate areas in the marketplace, with very little overlap between the two. I wouldn't think of CPA as posing competition to Clickbank and vice versa, because they don't really sell or market the same thing at all.

          Paul
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          • Profile picture of the author GlenH
            I just wish Clickbank would do something about their 'crappy' order form format and make it more customer friendly.

            Also, the powers that be at CB ought to know the basics of marketing by now, and work out a way for vendors to be able to set up a redirect if a prospects bails out of a sale when they get to the order form.

            --Glen
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            • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
              Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

              I just wish Clickbank would do something about their 'crappy' order form format and make it more customer friendly.

              Also, the powers that be at CB ought to know the basics of marketing by now, and work out a way for vendors to be able to set up a redirect if a prospects bails out of a sale when they get to the order form.

              --Glen
              I hear they've split tested the heck out of that order form.

              ...Good idea on the redirect. I'm not sure how they would do it though? It's funny how many people chicken out on order forms when you look at the stats.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg D
    Hey Rob,

    How do you know if you got 50 affiliates on CB if they didn't sell anything. I am confused.
    Did you have them sign up to a newsletter in order to receive affiliate materials?

    Greg
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob141
      Originally Posted by Greg D View Post

      Hey Rob,

      How do you know if you got 50 affiliates on CB if they didn't sell anything. I am confused.
      Did you have them sign up to a newsletter in order to receive affiliate materials?

      Greg

      Because I got no sales.

      They had a page full of affiliate tools.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg D
        Originally Posted by Rob141 View Post

        Because I got no sales.

        They had a page full of affiliate tools.
        I figured that, and I am sorry. I was wondering how you knew you had 50 affiliates?

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        • Profile picture of the author Rob141
          Originally Posted by Greg D View Post

          I figured that, and I am sorry. I was wondering how you knew you had 50 affiliates?

          Greg
          I counted them in the analytics area.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    They are 2 different business models and they are both profitable or dead depending on how you play the game.

    Clickbank is the ONLY marketplace I use currently to list my main products.

    I have a few on PDC as well but yes Clickbank is not dead.

    Try your hand at both and see what works for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    If it isn't dead yet, it is dying. People are moving onto marketing physical products, which are easier sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbjack
    lol! I'm still using clickbank to Earn more than 1,000 dollars.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    ClickBank is so dead that a sale happens on ClickBank roughly every 3 seconds.

    This means that over $1000 was made by the time I finished typing this message.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      ClickBank is so dead that a sale happens on ClickBank roughly every 3 seconds.

      This means that over $1000 was made by the time I finished typing this message.
      Yeah, I agree not worth bothering with!

      Damm there is another $900 to CB! :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Even
    I have one of my best Clickbank months (as an affiliate) ever last month so all well on this end!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dwayne K
    I just switched from CB checks to direct
    deposits, to help CB on their paper bill so they
    can live that bit longer
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    Clickbank is dead to me, I don't know about anyone else.
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