Could You get Sued for Your Bad Reviews?

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Wow just read this - kind of makes you wonder.

Plastic Surgeon Jay Pensler Sues Patients for Bad Online Reviews

Yes, while the case will probably get thrown out, these women are going to have to pony up thousands in legal fees first.
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    He should have not drawn attention to it, but instead asked his happy patients to write their honest reviews which would have negated hers.

    On another note, I saw a woman on a pay per task site asking people to rate her day care highly and give her five stars even though they had never used it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      On another note, I saw a woman on a pay per task site asking people to rate her day care highly and give her five stars even though they had never used it!
      Things like this go on all the time. :rolleyes:

      I noticed in a recent thread here about fiverr.com, in which people were asked what good services they'd bought there, somebody replied very openly that he bought two really great testimonials for his new product.

      And then people complain about "too much regulation" and "government interference" and "nanny statism" when the FTC prosecutes people. And the ultimate irony is that the ones who complain are usually the very same ones who are causing the problem for all of us in the first place!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    There are some inconsistencies that made me go "huh"?

    The woman has a lawyer but has not sued the doctor. Why would that be? Could there be more to the story than just what she has told?

    Here's the problem I have with this... In a court of law the woman can present her complaint and the doctor has the chance to rebut it or answer it with facts.

    Online - she can say anything she wants to discredit the doctor. He can't present his side because he is limited by laws regarding patient privacy. She is choosing a venue where she knows he cannot present facts to defend himself. Why would she do that rather than face him in court?

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      He did have patients who wrote how happy they were - but that won't balance charges of malpractice. I think the only choice he had was to sue.
      His reputation is key to his business.

      We don't know how many previous surgeries the woman had or whether this was to correct other problems. We don't know if the doctor takes on harder cases that other physicians won't attempt. That's the kind of thing that would be presented in court.

      It's cowardly to me to accuse someone without facing them and giving them the opportunity to defend themselves. Isn't that what civil cases are about?

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      • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
        It's called SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation)
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        • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
          This is one of those issues (not rare, sad to say) on which it is difficult to make a judgment, as it is hard to know where the truth lies. If the doctor is in the right, he will still find himself combating the negative publicity. Ultimately, whether he wins or loses the lawsuit, his reputation will suffer.

          The fact that the woman chose to air her grievances publicly rather than filing a civil lawsuit is a strong indication that she has a weak case. Plenty of attorneys would take such a case on a contingency basis if they felt they had a strong case against the doctor.

          The anonymity of the internet is a two-edged sword. One can air a complaint usually without fear of retaliation, but on the other hand, one person can unjustly vilify another and get away with it. I've seen some incredibly nasty statements by anonymous posters, enough for me to wish that dueling were still legal.

          Of course, if you are employed by a company and you bad mouth that company (justly or unjustly) and they can uncover your identity, you can kiss your job goodbye, as well as your life's savings, should they use the hammer of a lawsuit against you.

          Ah, well. Another instance of only the lawyers winning.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    If you defame somebody in a review then you can be sued. Saying that somebody is a fraud or a con-artist because you do not like his product is not protected by your 1st Amendment Rights. Giving an honest review of a product or service is.

    I am not a lawyer, but I like to pretend that I am at least as smart as some of the lawyers that I have dealt with, so you should listen to this advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      If you defame somebody in a review then you can be sued. Saying that somebody is a fraud or a con-artist because you do not like his product is not protected by your 1st Amendment Rights. Giving an honest review of a product or service is.
      Here's what you can do...

      From the Wikipedia article on Penn & Teller's Bullsh*t! (can't link to it due to board filters)

      Since their act is not normally associated with a frequent use of profanity, Jillette explains their choice of using the term bullsh*t in the opening episode: if they referred to people as frauds or liars, they could be sued for slander, even in the face of overwhelming evidence of chicanery, but as "vulgar abuse" is not considered slanderous, referring to them as a_h___s or m___f___ers ostensibly expresses an opinion rather than a statement of fact and is legally safer for them
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  • Profile picture of the author mauii
    A site called infomercial scams was sued by Video Professor, and I believe shut down, for the same exact reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    I'm not a lawyer but I guess personal opinions, stated as that (Eg. this is a personal opinion.. I feel that xyz product/service is blah blah blah), should be ok but trying to pass off personal opinions as facts... that's where you get into trouble
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

    Yes, while the case will probably get thrown out, these women are going to have to pony up thousands in legal fees first.
    It's him suing them so he pays the legal fees. If the verdict is beneficial for him, the judge might order the women to pay the fees, but it obviously won't be.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

      It's him suing them so he pays the legal fees. If the verdict is beneficial for him, the judge might order the women to pay the fees, but it obviously won't be.
      He pays HIS legal fees. Unless her lawyer works for free, she has to pay her own legal fees.
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      • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
        Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

        He pays HIS legal fees. Unless her lawyer works for free, she has to pay her own legal fees.
        Yes, but he will have to repay those fees as well after the judge has passed a verdict.
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      • Profile picture of the author MWZ81
        Having a review good or bad is perfectly fine as long as it regards the service.

        Once you cross the line of getting personal, slander, defaming etc it is no longer a review.

        If you want a good idea of how this works, look up the T.O.S. in google places reviews. You can actually have reviews removed if they cross the line.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          I was named in a SLAPP suit this last year. :rolleyes:

          Here's the deal as far as suing goes - anyone can sue anyone for anything.

          Here's the deal as far as reviews go - if you tell the truth you have nothing to worry about. But you need to make sure you can back up your claims if you are very matter of fact about the truth you present.

          Luckily, the slapp suit I was named in will never come to happen, as the truth I told (along with others) was proven in court so the slapp suit no longer has merit.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheOcarlsen
    These things is so weird to read about. Where I am from you are more likely to be sued for making a "too good"-review than a bad one :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author OfferJunkie
    Yes, I would say that opinions are fine but trying to put 'false facts' or slander in the review are grounds for being sued.
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