Attention Newbies - 7 months of Internet Marketing, Here's Where I Am

by ikelove 32 replies
This is for newbies who are contemplating whether to jump into the Internet Marketing "pool". I've doing this for 7 months now, and since I'm still fairly new at this, I wanted to share with you some insights and let you know where I'm at.


I learned about IM through a thread on an unrelated site about IM, which comprised nearly a thousand posts. I took me a few weeks to read the posts, but after I read them, I purchased an e-book by one of main contributors to the post, and his ebook gave me a very basic and general overview about IM.


In Feb of this year, I started searching for a keyword, and after the keyword I went on Clickbank and found a product I liked. Then it too me about three weeks to build a site through a template that came with the ebook that I bought several months earlier.


After finishing the site mid/late March I started article writing the first week of April. From the first week of April, I committed to writing two articles a day/5 days per week, and submitting them to EZA which gave me 40 articles after a month.


I had a dismal CTR rate for my first batch (I think about 12-14%, I don't remember). After writing the 40 articles I took some time off article writing to go on WF and get feedback on my articles and how to write better articles. I also spent time submitting my articles to sites other than EZA (goarticles, amazines, article ally, idealmarketers, articledashboard, and one more that I can't remember right now for the life of me )


While I was getting feedback, I got my first sale, which was about a month after I had gotten started.


After doing more research I took to taking action again, and committed to writing another 2 articles per day, 5 days per week. My second batch had a higher CTR rate (about 22% if I remember correctly). One even was listed as one of the top viewed articles on EZA for my niche.


After writing my second batch and checking my site stats of visitors through Google Analytics,, I became increasingly discouraged about how many potential clients I was throwing away because I didn't have an opt-in page to capture the names and emails of people who visited and didn't buy, so I decided to work on my free report. That took me the better part of July to complete.


When I finished my free report (which was almost 40 pages), I then shopped around for a autoresponder site and on the advice from several people on this board, decided to go for Profollow, which, from what I'm told, is a white label product of Aweber, except cheaper.


It took me a little over a week to get acclimated to Profollow, but once everything got set up, I started getting people opting into my list.


It was from here that I decided to convert my site over to a Wordpress site, being I was told that google LOVES wordpress, and also because the template I had wasn't as flexible as I would've liked it to be to match the colours of the affiliate product sales page I was promoting.


Converting my site over to Wordpress took the better part of September and had a HUGE learning curve, which,, I guess, was worth it.


Now everything was "straight" I decided now I was ready to learn how to drive traffic to my site on a larger scale, build my list, and hit my goal of having my first $100 month by November 30.


I started writing articles again with a goal of getting to 100 articles in my niche.


Here's where I stand now:


* I've made four sales so far since I started in April, about one sale every other month.
* I have 54 subscribers to my mailing list.
* I hit #2 in google, yahoo and bing for my keyword over the weekend, only to check just a few minutes ago and find out that I was knocked back to #11 by google (the top of the second page). I really don't understand the fluctuations.
* I'm ready now to take this thing to the "next level" which is $100 per month.
* I've gotten emails from three different subscribers telling me how helpful my emails are. One even asked me when I'm going to come out with my own product. :-)



Here's my advice:
* Take CONSISTENT Action - This means find a plan and then STICK to it. It could be working on your business 7 days a week, or 6 days a week, or even three days a week. The point is, BE CONSISTENT. There's a phrase by a marketer by the name of Mike Littman, "Either your consistent or you're non-existent."

* Be where you're at - By this I mean be honest with yourself about your strengths and your weaknesses. In the past I found that I procrastinated because I thought I had to work myself to death when taking action. I would read of people taking massive amounts of action and get scared and intimidated and would procrastinate and procrastinate while months passed and nothing got done. Luckily, when I got into IM, I learned that everyone is different, and people work at different paces. When I committed to writing articles consistently, I knew writing four a day was too much, three, from what I attempted was also tedious, one would've have been TOO easy, and two articles a day was just challenging enough, so I COMMITTED to writing two a day. Taking consistent action with two articles a day for 30 days gave me the confidence that I needed to know that I can take consistent action and also started to make me think that maybe I can actually write three a day. It's all about learning how to work with YOU.
I also know I get obsessive, so rather than deciding to NOT take action until I get this problem "fixed," I decided to work with my "weakness." I only allow myself to check Clickbank for sales twice a month, because I know if I checked everyday and saw that I didn't make a sale, I'd get discouraged and start thinking about giving up. Instead, since you need to know how you're doing so you know what changes to make, I give myself twice a month the check. It's funny, that by doing this over time, I'm starting to become comfortable to the point that I'm thinking of relaxing my rule to checking once a week instead of once every two weeks.
* Never let the line go slack - Let's face it, we ALL get busy and some pressing issues come up in life which may take away from the time that we'd like to put in our business. Right now I'm working on a very important project having to do with one of my life dreams, and this has taken away time from my IM business. Yet, to stay consistent, I make sure I do SOMETHING every day (well, five days out of the week.) On nights I had other pressing issues and had to wake up early, instead of writing and submitting an article to EZA, I'd write it one night and then submit it the next night. Or, if time was running out and I had to get to bed, I'd go to EZA, pick out an article I had written and add it to my blog (I initially had a static site and converted to Wordpress several months later, so most articles were in articles were in article directories but not on my site). Or, I'd put up one post on a site related to my niche where I can thus get more backlinking to my site with my keyword.
* Just do it - Here's another quote from the same marketer Mike Litman, "You don't have to get it right, you just have to get it going." Before IM, I was always in analysis paralysis, trying to wait for the right time where everything was aligned before I decided I was ready to take action, Now, I accept the fact that the best way to learn is by just doing it. From all my fiasco adventures in the past, I came into IM with wisdom from my past mistakes, so I didn't sign up to a hundred mailing lists, or buy 300 hundred products. I resolved to just do it and learn from mistakes along the way. I can tell you what it feels like to eat a strawberry, or you can take the strawberry and eat it for yourself.
* Learn the dance between action and "non-action". After taking action for a period of time, you do have to sit back and evaluate your results, but of course, you can only evaluate results AFTER you take action. After taking action regularly, it become detrimental to your future progress if you don't take some time to sit and evaluate what you're doing right, what you're doing wrong, and what you need to improve. If you're driving a car and don't take time to look at the map to see whether you're going the right way, you may wind up driving off a cliff. Some days were simply just spent asking questions on Warrior Forum and reading the answers to see how I can go forward the right way, see the next step I needed to take, and also get advice as to how to do something properly. Sometimes it is good to learn things on your own, other times is good to learn from others' experiences so you can save time by not making the same mistake.

Here's what I need to work on:
* Now I'm teetering between the top of the first page and second page of google, I feel that with another solid period of steady backlinking, I will remain consistently on page 1, so in that regards (SEO), my work is ALMOST done. Now I need to work on writing better copy, headlines etc to convert the traffic better because I'm not too pleased with my traffic conversion rate right now.
* I still need to work on driving larger volumes of traffic to my site. The keyword I chose isn't a large volume keyword (1,800 hits globally per month), but I have still heard of people attracting 50 to 100 and over visits per day. How that is done is completely beyond me. I have to learn about more methods.
*I need to know start participating more in forums relating to my niche. As a matter of fact, I've slowly started to do that. On nights where I'm busy with my other project that's been taking up most of my time, I'll simply go to one of them and post a reply to some thread. I am assuming that you can get a lot of qualified, targeted traffic from forums in your niche as you start to build a name for yourself and people begin to know you and trust you as an "expert."
* I need to join the War Room. I'd heard enough about it that when I have the extra money, I will invest it in War Room membership.
* What I believe I truly need is a mentor, so I'm putting my intention out there for one. If anyone out there is looking to mentor someone to mentor, know that your FREE services will not be taken for granted for as you can see, I already take consistent action.

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  • Profile picture of the author culpetm
    Wow! You're determined to succeed! I'd encourage you to keep at it.

    Also, you may want to consider starting a blog documenting this journey. You're an engaging writer (as evidenced by your post), and I think people would follow your blog. And as you become more successful, your blog will become more successful as well.

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  • Profile picture of the author asimbawany
    yup... a blog would definitely be a good idea for you. Writing certainly seems to be your thing.

    I stumbled across a blog sometime back where the owner of the blog posted about his IM journey of how he started from scratch and now after a year is earning about $2000/m. Im pretty sure he makes money off his blog too which he does not document.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbreceipt
      I admire your dedication and work ethics. That is something I am so lacking. Thanks for inspiring me and best of luck to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author jlgbuss
      Originally Posted by asimbawany View Post

      yup... a blog would definitely be a good idea for you. Writing certainly seems to be your thing..
      And hey... I WILL subscribe right away if you decide to create it...
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      • Profile picture of the author rrm
        Appreciate the post. You went from knowing little to knowing far more and taking action on it, and making sales. Just what every successful online entrepreneur goes through. We start somewhere, always learning, and putting in practice what we learn.

        Understanding your strengths and weaknesses, which you've laid out for yourself very nicely, gave you a more firm foundation, a realistic base, on which to work, and burnout/discouragement would be less likely.

        If I had "arrived" already in the online world, you would be the type of person I would enjoy mentoring. One cannot teach what one does not know.

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  • Profile picture of the author tylerdrun
    Congrats... Be determined, write more articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrianne_
    What an inspiring post to people just starting out. Someone asked for newbie advice on another forum and I directed her here so hopefully she will see your thread and feel encouraged.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roy Penrod
      I've gotten emails from three different subscribers telling me how helpful my emails are. One even asked me when I'm going to come out with my own product. :-)
      Pay attention to that customer and ask them what they want in that product. Then give it to them. It's an asset you can profit from again and again.
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      • Profile picture of the author ikelove
        I'm glad this post was helpful to all of you who responded. After getting so much from this forum, it's about time I give back. I just didn't think I was qualified to give back until now.

        Originally Posted by Roy Penrod View Post



        Pay attention to that customer and ask them what they want in that product. Then give it to them. It's an asset you can profit from again and again.

        Yea, it's funny, but from being a former self-improvement junkie, I've always felt that I had my finger on the pulse of what people are looking for in the niche of the Law of Attraction.

        So,I went and created a free report centered around that need. What's funny was that I began to doubt myself because the sign up rate compared to number of visitors I had to my squeeze page didn't seem to high and there were several days that I went without getting a subscriber. Over time, I would get consistently 2-3 subscribers daily and a few started emailing me back thanking me. Then, from talking to the subscriber, he said my free report was EXACTLY what he was looking for. When I asked him what type of product he was looking for that addressed his needs/problems, he told me that there was very FEW material out there that covered the topic of my free report, and that he'd be looking forward to me fleshing out what I had written in my free report with an upcoming product (hey isn't that what free reports are, an enticement for a future product?).

        So, judging from this guy's input, I'm sure others on my list share his sentiment and I just need to drive more traffic to my site and it'll result in more people looking for answers to the problem(s) I address being added to my list. It does seem that the problem I address is a legit concern like I sensed, it's just that I need to probably do a better job of marketing that on my squeeze page.
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        • Profile picture of the author Roy Penrod
          If that guy is willing to talk to you, he's gold. That's the best market research you can get.

          Why not write up an outline of stuff you think you should cover and send it to him? Ask him to add anything else he wants to see you cover in the product. Ask him how he wants to absorb the information (ebook, audio, video, all three).

          Basically, pick his brain. Give him a 50% discount or just give him the product for free when it's done.

          And if you want to drive more traffic to your free report offer, try creating a Facebook page on the topic and putting your opt-in on the welcome tab.

          Good luck with your opportunity!
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    alot of assumptions here dude.

    You are not trying your hand at traffic.

    On one of our sites we are currently getting traffic from about 30 different ways. And guess what about 62% of them bring sales. But at least we tested them to see where the best traffic, and most targeted came from.

    If you are sending your cat juggling ads and promotions to a group of gardeners how is that targeted.

    We use articles to build list and get sales, but we are also using PPC, JV, SEO, Blogs, Free forums, Blog comments, Integration, directories, backlinks, packet backlinks, text ads, solo ads and a few other.

    The ones I mentioned above bring in the most sale for us, and get the most targeted traffic.

    maybe you should try something similar. Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      alot of assumptions here dude.

      You are not trying your hand at traffic.

      On one of our sites we are currently getting traffic from about 30 different ways. And guess what about 62% of them bring sales. But at least we tested them to see where the best traffic, and most targeted came from.

      If you are sending your cat juggling ads and promotions to a group of gardeners how is that targeted.

      We use articles to build list and get sales, but we are also using PPC, JV, SEO, Blogs, Free forums, Blog comments, Integration, directories, backlinks, packet backlinks, text ads, solo ads and a few other.

      The ones I mentioned above bring in the most sale for us, and get the most targeted traffic.

      maybe you should try something similar. Hope this helps.
      Celente, it's good that you're not putting all your eggs in one basket. If you really want to scale a business and you already have a proven high-converting sales funnel, then there's nothing left to do than dump massive amounts of targeted traffic on your page, and this usually cannot be done through one traffic source alone.

      In addition to that, by diversifying across many traffic sources, you minimize the chances of a major disruption in case one or several of them have hiccups.

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    • Profile picture of the author ikelove
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      alot of assumptions here dude.

      You are not trying your hand at traffic.

      On one of our sites we are currently getting traffic from about 30 different ways. And guess what about 62% of them bring sales. But at least we tested them to see where the best traffic, and most targeted came from.

      If you are sending your cat juggling ads and promotions to a group of gardeners how is that targeted.

      We use articles to build list and get sales, but we are also using PPC, JV, SEO, Blogs, Free forums, Blog comments, Integration, directories, backlinks, packet backlinks, text ads, solo ads and a few other.

      The ones I mentioned above bring in the most sale for us, and get the most targeted traffic.

      maybe you should try something similar. Hope this helps.

      Celente:

      Thanks a lot for the tips. I probably won't be getting into PPC as I've heard enough about it and it doesn't appeal to me, but I will take your advice in terms of the other areas. I've already using free forums in my niche with my signature on the bottom, but I actually forgot about commenting on blogs. Also, I was waiting on getting my subscriber number up to 100 before I started doing JV. I also have yet to use social bookmarking. I'm sure the first and last ones if done enough will keep me consistently on the top 5 of page 1 on google.

      What are packet backlinks, solo ads, text ads, etc?
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      • Profile picture of the author ikelove
        Originally Posted by culpetm View Post

        Wow! You're determined to succeed! I'd encourage you to keep at it.

        Also, you may want to consider starting a blog documenting this journey. You're an engaging writer (as evidenced by your post), and I think people would follow your blog. And as you become more successful, your blog will become more successful as well.

        -Tim
        Originally Posted by asimbawany View Post

        yup... a blog would definitely be a good idea for you. Writing certainly seems to be your thing.

        I stumbled across a blog sometime back where the owner of the blog posted about his IM journey of how he started from scratch and now after a year is earning about $2000/m. Im pretty sure he makes money off his blog too which he does not document.
        Originally Posted by jlgbuss View Post

        And hey... I WILL subscribe right away if you decide to create it...

        Culpetm, Asimbawany, Jlgbuss:

        Thank you very much for the compliments to my writing. You know, I NEVER really saw myself as a writer all through school. Teachers neer really said anything about me having writing skills. Maybe after all it I have stumbled upon a gift. Never thought writing was one of them.


        Originally Posted by jafris View Post

        Did I miss you saying that you have started to blog as well?
        If you are not, then you are not building your repute as an expert in your niche.
        Try crowd conversion from Facebook as well, and needless to mention, your own video reviews about the products you are selling are worth thousands of dollars!
        I did actually mention I have a blog. I recently converted my blog over to Wordpress so I can put my articles that I used to submit to EZA and other article sites onto my own site.

        How do you use Facebook as a tool? What I'm afraid of is that on FB, people know me more personally, and if I recommed MY site on the Law of Attraction, they're going to ask me why they should listen to me because I'm not rich yet....dunno, maybe just a limiting belief. Do you make a fan page for your site? How do I do it?
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        • Profile picture of the author JBroyer44
          Originally Posted by ikelove View Post

          Culpetm, Asimbawany, Jlgbuss:


          How do you use Facebook as a tool? What I'm afraid of is that on FB, people know me more personally, and if I recommed MY site on the Law of Attraction, they're going to ask me why they should listen to me because I'm not rich yet....dunno, maybe just a limiting belief. Do you make a fan page for your site? How do I do it?
          I feel the same way about promoting IM on facebook. I am an indie musician with my own fanpage and music career that i already promote there so i feel like i would be messing with my personal 'brand' so to speak by promoting things on facebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Outsider
    Thank goodness for a real story. No million bucks in 48 hours or the usual baloney. Power to you my friend, power to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tonybuk
    Hi Ikelove, thanks for sharing your journey so far. It looks like we are at about the same point, a few sales but nothing consistent yet.
    I really like your take on article writing, I really need to COMMIT to writing more, I always seem to find an excuse to do some 'optimising' or 'housekeping' rather than sit down and write.
    Anyway good luck for your future success, and if you could point that Mentor this way when you have finished with him................

    TonyB
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    Great work, keep it up.

    Awesome read
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    im happy and sad to see your post. Why? I want everyone to succeed but IM isn`t easy, it`s a long learning curve. I am also determine as you and I can write a 4000 words essay on what im doing wrong and etc... You seem to like writing, build yourself a blog and become an authority blogger in a niche. I hope you succeed and I hope you succeed too in 2011.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelAppleton
    ikelove, really enjoyed reading your post and goodluck on your first $100 month.

    Theres a great outline there for anyone wanting to get their head down and really give IM ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author jafris
    Did I miss you saying that you have started to blog as well?
    If you are not, then you are not building your repute as an expert in your niche.
    Try crowd conversion from Facebook as well, and needless to mention, your own video reviews about the products you are selling are worth thousands of dollars!
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  • Profile picture of the author wendymay1
    Thanks for the inspiration. Keep writing, as it seems to be a talent of yours by reading your post. Keeps us all up to date with your progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Awesome story. I've been at it for nearly the same amount of time and haven't made a dime yet because of certain financial circumstances.

    However, I learned so much and will continue to learn more as I really begin focusing on IM in a few weeks after my financial obligations are complete.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pilot07
    Great never give up !! i started 4 weeks ago with my website and i made my first sale on the 3 week. two sales on one day its was great. so im try to rank well on google and learn everything about SEO.. I`ll follow your steps. thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author KevinTorrence
      Thanks for making this post. This is the real deal here folks. All the glitz and glam quickly crashes once you get your feet firmly planted and get to work.

      The reality is that there's more to it that just finding a hot product, getting gobs of traffic, and pounding the keyboard everyday to make the money flow. Sometimes you gotta take a breather to get a grip of what you're doing, what's your strengths, what your site visitors really want, and how can you tweak the work you've already been doing to get bigger results.
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    Gr8 ! Love to hear success stories.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hellopanda
    Very inspiring post indeed !

    I am also just starting on internet marketing and it can be frustrating and tiring at times .

    And its during these frustrating periods that i will come to WR forum to stumble upon such inspiring post - which will spur me on and not to give up !
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    • Profile picture of the author sherys
      This is great!

      Thanks for this very informative post. Constant action will eventually reward you with results, well done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Carpenter
    Truly an inspirational post. Congratulations on your success, and I feel that I can confidently congratulate you on your upcoming successes as well!

    I've just begun taking action myself, and it feels great. I actually created my first product tonight, and however simple of a product it may be, the fact that I DID IT is what I am most proud of.

    I would also love to keep up on your progress on a blog. Your writing is very enjoyable to read, as others have pointed out
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  • Profile picture of the author JonAlfredsson
    This is a very inspiring story. Thanks for sharing your insights and keep it up. I think you’ll have an awesome year in terms of marketing. Cheers to more success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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    The consistent part is true 100% and be applied in non-IM activities too.
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