Seems Like Goarticles Are Making Some Big Changes

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yesacpow

Next, they have made some changes to their URLs. They are now adding the keywords in the title. This great for better seo now. But I also think it is bad for all the articles which were previously submitted since they changed those urls as well.

I'm sure a site of their size will have taken all appropriate measures in ensuring that the old page URLs now "301 redirect" to the new URLs, so as to avoid losing all that lovely backlink juice they've likely amassed over the years.

In fact, I'll go and have a look now.

EDIT: Just checked, and they have indeed "301'd them".

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

I rarely get articles syndicated from GoArticles, so that makes it a pretty poor and low-interest directory to me.

What use is a "directory" to which quality-site webmasters and ezine/newsletter compilers don't routinely go in search of content?

I suppose it's worth some backlinks and a bit of fast traffic just in itself, but that doesn't get you very far in today's world of article marketing.

Maybe it will gradually improve, now? I'll watch with interest.

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I suppose it's worth some backlinks and a bit of fast traffic just in itself, but that doesn't get you very far in today's world of article marketing.

It hasn't even really been that useful for backlinks, for me personally, over the last year or so. Most of the articles never seem to get indexed ... and "I'll be b*ggered" if I'm building links to all my articles there to get them indexed.

I too hope the changes will somehow result in their overall usefulness increasing in the near future.

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markowe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DireStraits

Most of the articles never seem to get indexed ... and "I'll be b*ggered" if I'm building links to all my articles there to get them indexed.

I was gonna say, I only signed up for GA the other day, just to reuse some of my articles and get some more backlinks out there, and to do a bit of bum marketing, and I saw the same thing - a couple of my articles haven't been indexed, even though they are unique. Don't think I will be bothering in future. I would rather an article dir have a relatively stringent editorial policy and take a bit longer to approve articles, but actually get indexed and syndicated. So EZA still rules for me, but I am open to suggestions for other article directories of that standard (or higher!) I know there are some paying ones out there (I pay THEM to give them content! Duhhh, hang on!) but I don't think I will be going that route!

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by markowe

I was gonna say, I only signed up for GA the other day, just to reuse some of my articles and get some more backlinks out there, and to do a bit of bum marketing, and I saw the same thing - a couple of my articles haven't been indexed, even though they are unique. Don't think I will be bothering in future. I would rather an article dir have a relatively stringent editorial policy and take a bit longer to approve articles, but actually get indexed and syndicated. So EZA still rules for me, but I am open to suggestions for other article directories of that standard (or higher!) I know there are some paying ones out there (I pay THEM to give them content! Duhhh, hang on!) but I don't think I will be going that route!

I think their lack of a pre-publication editorial review / an approval process is what has caused this problem of many articles never being indexed there.

We know that the depth/level to which Google's spiders "penetrate" a website is somewhat (or kind of) proportional to the amount of backlinks it has acquired, and the subsequent PR-flow and overall authority level of that site.

Beyond a certain point, a site which has many hundreds or thousands (or more) of pages per day added, but which hasn't amassed (or isn't amassing) enough overall backlinks, or doesn't have a high enough level of authority / Google love, will fail to see some of its new pages being indexed with the same consistency and regularity of a site which has and does.

Some will be indexed, obviously (and especially those to which backlinks have been built) - but it's very hit-and-miss. Much more so than with a directory like EZA, where I don't think I've ever not had an article indexed (and pretty darn quickly, too).

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yesacpow

13 years ago

I agree with most of the above posters about the lack of publication.

However, in my opinion that shouldn't be your main focus for article marketing. Your aim (my opinion) is that you should find great keywords and rank your articles for those keywords so that your prospects (people with problems that you are targeting) find your articles which then takes them to your website.

If you get publications then that is an added bonus.

Also for the folks who are having a hard time getting their goarticles indexed, here's what I do to get all of my articles indexed usually withing hours:

1. Ping the article at pingler.com
2. Submit the article to digg.com (yes they do accept articles)
3. Submit the article to dropjack.com
4. Sign up with onlywire.com and bookmark your articles with the top bookmaking sites.

That's all I do to get my articles indexed. However, if that doesn't work for you, you can simply add your article in your sig and make a few posts and that should help.

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yesacpow

However, in my opinion that shouldn't be your main focus for article marketing. Your aim (my opinion) is that you should find great keywords and rank your articles for those keywords so that your prospects (people with problems that you are targeting) find your articles which then takes them to your website.

I agree that this can be a legitimate use of article directories (and indeed many non-"directories", such as HubPages) sometimes, but I think for the majority of people, it doesn't make much sense at all.

It's quite short-sighted, isn't it?

All you're really doing, with that approach, is leveraging the existing authority of that directory/site, to rank your article for your desired keyword phrase. But what about all the traffic / clickthroughs you miss out on due to the readers' of those articles clicking on and being diverted away by AdSense and other advertisements? That's money in EZA's (or any other site's) pockets, and one less visitor and potential customer for you.

On the other hand, if it was your site the searcher found in the SERPs for the same keyword phrases, you'd have "full control" (or at least more control) over what you can do with all the traffic that comes to your site - of which there would be more, since they'd be coming direct.

Only in instances where a person (for whatever mysterious reason) flat-out refuses to set up their own site(s), could I really see the point in submitting to EZA (or any other directory or site other than their own) first or exclusively. But then I probably wouldn't see a point in them refusing to set up their own sites, anyway, what with it being so easy and cheap, lol.

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yesacpow

13 years ago

Here's the deal,

I didn't say anything about using article directories only!!!!

I understand your point and you are very correct. But why go for one spot on Google's first page when you can have 2,3,4 etc?

You can have your site there for your keyword, and an article from eza, goarticles, buzzle, hubpages and you get the point.

The idea is to get traffic from all sources possible and funnel them to your site. Remember if you chose your keywords right then it is totally possible to dominate Google's first page with different properties and not just your website.

Originally Posted by DireStraits

I agree that this can be a legitimate use of article directories (and indeed many non-"directories", such as HubPages) sometimes, but I think for the majority of people, it doesn't make much sense at all.

It's quite short-sighted, isn't it?

All you're really doing, with that approach, is leveraging the existing authority of that directory/site, to rank your article for your desired keyword phrase. But what about all the traffic / clickthroughs you miss out on due to the readers' of those articles clicking on and being diverted away by AdSense and other advertisements? That's money in EZA's (or any other site's) pockets, and one less visitor and potential customer for you.

On the other hand, if it was your site the searcher found in the SERPs for the same keyword phrases, you'd have "full control" (or at least more control) over what you can do with all the traffic that comes to your site - of which there would be more, since they'd be coming direct.

Only in instances where a person (for whatever mysterious reason) flat-out refuses to set up their own site(s), could I really see the point in submitting to EZA (or any other directory or site other than their own) first or exclusively. But then I probably wouldn't see a point in them refusing to set up their own sites, anyway, what with it being so easy and cheap, lol.

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davidjames42973 13 years ago

I've had a lot of success with Go Articles over the years. I'm glad that you can now add your targeted keywords in the URL now too.
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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yesacpow

Here's the deal,

I didn't say anything about using article directories only!!!!

I understand your point and you are very correct. But why go for one spot on Google's first page when you can have 2,3,4 etc?

You can have your site there for your keyword, and an article from eza, goarticles, buzzle, hubpages and you get the point.

The idea is to get traffic from all sources possible and funnel them to your site. Remember if you chose your keywords right then it is totally possible to dominate Google's first page with different properties and not just your website.

Oh, absolutey: there's nothing inherently wrong with that, and if that's your plan, and it works well for you - great.

But I just don't think it's the most efficient way for the majority of people. Many keyword phrases for which there are good levels of search traffic to be had will also be reasonably competitive. Even just to claim and maintain possession of a single ranking "slot" on Google's first page (preferably with your own site) will require a reasonable amount of backlinks and/or authority.

So I can't really imagine trying to maintain a whole page of ranking positions by myself, or even a half or quarter page full of them ... not for a single search term. I'd spend half my time just trying to maintain my rankings for a single keyword phrase.

In any case, if you use article directories as they're intended, you can hopefully dominate multiple same-page ranking slots, when you have multiple articles targeting the same keyword phrase (published and indexed on your own site first), syndicated beyond article directories, on other peoples' established, high-authority sites, over time.

I just don't like the idea of having to spend all day backlinking every instance of my article on every site I publish it myself (directly). I'd rather write more articles and let other people do some of that work for me, or else move on to other keyword phrases and just be happy with a single, high ranking position for each one, for the time being ... then maybe look at that later when I've got my finger in as "many (keyword) pies" as possible, and with minimal ongoing work required on my part, to maintain my rankings for them.

It just seems a bit more diversified and secure, somehow, that way.

Not "knocking" your approach, though, if it works for you. It's just a different means to a similar end, I guess ... and maybe you have more resources and manpower at your disposal to make lighter work of your strategy than I could.

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yesacpow

13 years ago

I really appreciate your input.

But again, I didn't say I was doing all the work myself lol. If that was the case I would need over 100 hours in one day.

And again it goes down to keyword research. If the keyword you chose have very little competition, those articles on those directories will need very little backlinking to stay ranked. And here's the good part: while you building links to those articles and increasing their ranks, they are sending down the link juice to your site helping your site to stay ranked!

All the best.

Originally Posted by DireStraits

Oh, absolutey: there's nothing inherently wrong with that, and if that's your plan, and it works well for you - great.

But I just don't think it's the most efficient way for the majority of people. Many keyword phrases for which there are good levels of search traffic to be had will also be reasonably competitive. Even just to claim and maintain possession of a single ranking "slot" on Google's first page (preferably with your own site) will require a reasonable amount of backlinks and/or authority.

So I can't really imagine trying to maintain a whole page of ranking positions by myself, or even a half or quarter page full of them ... not for a single search term. I'd spend half my time just trying to maintain my rankings for a single keyword phrase.

In any case, if you use article directories as they're intended, you can hopefully dominate multiple same-page ranking slots, when you have multiple articles targeting the same keyword phrase (published and indexed on your own site first), syndicated beyond article directories, on other peoples' established, high-authority sites, over time.

I just don't like the idea of having to spend all day backlinking every instance of my article on every site I publish it myself (directly). I'd rather write more articles and let other people do some of that work for me, or else move on to other keyword phrases and just be happy with a single, high ranking position for each one, for the time being ... then maybe look at that later when I've got my finger in as "many (keyword) pies" as possible, and with minimal ongoing work required on my part, to maintain my rankings for them.

It just seems a bit more diversified and secure, somehow, that way.

Not "knocking" your approach, though, if it works for you. It's just a different means to a similar end, I guess ... and maybe you have more resources and manpower at your disposal to make lighter work of your strategy than I could.

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Aussie_Al 13 years ago

Originally Posted by yesacpow

4. Sign up with onlywire.com and bookmark your articles with the top bookmaking sites.

That's all I do to get my articles indexed.

Thats pretty much all I do with my GA articles and they get indexed just fine
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celente

13 years ago

I am a good fan of EA and goarticles

They are still working for our businesses and bringing in optins and sales.

I found this post a good read, as I am in australia, things seem to chop and change when I up till midnight posting stuff. But then it changes when it is morning time here in OZ. Thanks for this post but. They must be trying to test things. The smartest thing any big site like that can do.

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gskesavan

13 years ago

My articles in Goarticles don't even get indexed in GOOGLE! LoL!

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tpw

13 years ago

If their changes deliver positive improvements, I am all for it.

And I am certain positive will be the outcome, because from where they stood before, everything is up.

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LetsGoViral

13 years ago

Next, they have made some changes to their URLs. They are now adding the keywords in the title. This great for better seo now. But I also think it is bad for all the articles which were previously submitted since they changed those urls as well.

WOW! It's about time. I was always surprised how goarticles just didn't want to put the title in url. It's a pretty easy choice seo wise, isn't it?

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tpw 13 years ago

Originally Posted by LetsGoViral

WOW! It's about time. I was always surprised how goarticles just didn't want to put the title in url. It's a pretty easy choice seo wise, isn't it?

If you set up a Google News site for example, you will not be approved if you don't use the format that Go Articles currently uses.

I own an article directory where I refuse to put the title in the url too. It has worked out well for me.

I would tell you why I don't do it, and I do leave it out of the url for seo purposes, but if I told you, I would have to hunt down and kill everyone who reads this thread. LOL

The title in the url is not the slam dunk most people believe that it is.

If I were GoArticles, I would not tinker with the URL structure at all.

I operate 3 article directories. There are many ways they will be able to improve their importance to Google, consumers, and authors. Let's just see if they can conquer the challenges in front of them.
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DarioMontesdeOca

13 years ago

I was doing great with several of my articles being steadily ranked on page one and top 3 of Google for several keywords until they started doing these changes. Not sure if they'll climb back up in rankings or not but I can only only sit and wait to find out.

Also noticed the "vote" and retweet buttons are gone as well

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RobDB5950

13 years ago

I think that goarticles has always been the best. As far as getting quality backlinks. As for article marketing naa, but now it might be better. I'm submitting a new article today and am anxious to see the results on my CB account.

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