Solo vs Clickbank

13 years ago

Anyone?
I think its pretty liberating, than just making a product and putting it in clickbank.
I want hear other people thoughts on this matter.

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FrankieTP2

13 years ago

I would never do that myself. After I go through all the hard work of getting a product ready, I would love to have as many affiliates as possible. Affiliates they off from you a lot of hard work that is required to promote your product.

All I care about is telling my list about it, and getting JV's.

Of course, before launching the product, you need to have some tools for your affiliates and JV's so they don't have too much work on their ends.

If you have made sure that you have a great quality product and a good sales page, sales will start coming in for everyone. And you will get most of the rewards.

On the other hand, if you do all the work yourself, your work will probably never end.

One of the main reasons I became a vendor was because I didn't want to promote another person's product anymore. I wanted many affiliates to promote my products for me.

By the way, there are more affiliate networks besides Clickbank. If you don't like CB, then try another one.

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

Put it on Clickbank. Then you can do both. Why leave money off the table?

I don't really see what is liberating about going it alone.

I agree with Chris. You are not going to LOSE money by putting your product on Clickbank. The problem with a lot of product vendors is they think they have to choose between this network or that. Says who?

Why can't you list your product on Clickbank... AND PayDotCom... AND sell some copies through Paypal yourself if you like?

There are affiliates sitting out there right now waiting to promote your product - provided it sells. So why hide your product from these people. You can "go it yourself" but that doesn't mean you can't also list it on the popular networks...

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deertrail 13 years ago

In my experience, the advantages of working within the ClickBank platform far outweigh the disadvantages.

You get access to a huge network of affiliates, completely hands-free affiliate program management, credit card processing, and a steadily growing number of features like one-click upsells, $1 trials and more.

ClickBank may have higher fees and a few hoops to jump through, but in my view, that's the (small) price you pay in exchange for a completely scalable info marketing platform.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

Why can't you list your product on Clickbank... AND PayDotCom...

Because the 10% of affiliates who will refuse to promote a product on either network, if you do that, are the serious, professional affiliates who can collectively bring in 90% of your sales. (That's the theory: actually the reality is that a whole lot more than just the "top 10%" won't touch it).

"Another sales page somewhere else" is just about the biggest "leak" there is.

Will, this is explained in great detail in countless threads here, on a weekly (and sometimes almost daily) basis.

I think the five most recent discussions/explanations are this one, this one, this one, this one and this one.

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Because the 10% of affiliates who will refuse to promote a product on either network, if you do that, are the serious, professional affiliates who can collectively bring in 90% of your sales. (That's the theory: actually the reality is that a whole lot more than just the "top 10%" won't touch it).

"Another sales page somewhere else" is just about the biggest "leak" there is.

Will, this is explained in great detail in countless threads here, on a weekly (and sometimes almost daily) basis.

I think the five most recent discussions/explanations are this one, this one, this one, this one and this one.

I am talking about setting up two versions of the same product. Maybe even 2 different domains. One sells the product through Clickbank, the other through a network like PayDotCom. SEO etc is irrelevant for these because they are only being used to attract affiliates to the product. How is an affiliate who sees the product on Clickbank going to know the same product is listed with a different name etc on another network/

Also, how is this a leak? They are not going to lose commissions to other networks because the two sites are runnings as separate products - although exactly the same.

This is very do-able...

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

I am talking about setting up two versions of the same product. Maybe even 2 different domains. One sells the product through Clickbank, the other through a network like PayDotCom. SEO etc is irrelevant for these because they are only being used to attract affiliates to the product. How is an affiliate who sees the product on Clickbank going to know the same product is listed with a different name etc on another network/

Also, how is this a leak? They are not going to lose commissions to other networks because the two sites are runnings as separate products - although exactly the same.

This is very do-able...

Yes indeed ... it can work that way. As long as you have two completely different names for the product. (You might occasionally run into a refund request from someone who bought it twice by mistake, that way? But I wouldn't think this will stop anyone from doing it?).

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes indeed ... it can work that way. As long as you have two completely different names for the product. (You might occasionally run into a refund request from someone who bought it twice by mistake, that way? But I wouldn't think this will stop anyone from doing it?).

Correct. I think a lot of people invest so much time and money into putting together some of these products and it's a shame they have been programmed to think it has to be one network or the other.

As for the refunds, I guess they would be asking for a refund regardless of whether you had the product selling in two different places or not. Think about it. If I've just bought a guide on curing my snoring and it actually did what it promised, then I'll have no need to go looking elsewhere for another cure so I should never run into that duplicate product.

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Dan Bainbridge

13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

I am talking about setting up two versions of the same product. Maybe even 2 different domains. One sells the product through Clickbank, the other through a network like PayDotCom. SEO etc is irrelevant for these because they are only being used to attract affiliates to the product. How is an affiliate who sees the product on Clickbank going to know the same product is listed with a different name etc on another network/

Also, how is this a leak? They are not going to lose commissions to other networks because the two sites are runnings as separate products - although exactly the same.

This is very do-able...

Imo this isn't a way to double up your profits, but to dilute your focus... this way you have to do everything twice, check stats for both systems, promote each one differently... why not just put it on clickbank and promote it yourself there, while you also get some affiliates to promote it too? Having 2 similar, yet different products will only cause more time and hassle for you imo..

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by submp3s

Imo this isn't a way to double up your profits, but to dilute your focus... this way you have to do everything twice, check stats for both systems, promote each one differently... why not just put it on clickbank and promote it yourself there, while you also get some affiliates to promote it too? Having 2 similar, yet different products will only cause more time and hassle for you imo..

C'mon, I hardly think having two duplicate products is going to be much extra work at all. I could easily handle that - and for increased profits, you bet ya.

I am talking about listing on multiple affiliate networks. Some affiliates only use Clickbank, some only use PayDotCom, etc. By listing on two separate networks you are exposing yourself to a whole new audience of affiliates.

And to say it is not worth it because you would have a little extra work...?!!

What if I argued you had put all that hard work and money into getting the product produced and ready for sale, why would you then want to just limit yourself to only targeting affiliates on one network?

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Dan Bainbridge

13 years ago

^ Agreed that there are amny more advantages to disadvantages.

Also I don't see some of your "cons" as actual problems - it is very easy to get approved, and you only have to wait a few weeks for your money - a little back payment like this is normal with every system - on the other hand they handle everything - refunds, some customer service processes, affiliate management and payment, and of course the payment system itself... thats all without mentioning the affiliate potential involvement if your product is successful and can take off...

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GeorgeQ

13 years ago

I see.
Will there be problem if i first promote my product by myself for few months and THEN add it to clickbank(or just any network) for further expanding?

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JD Nunes

13 years ago

If you're able to either promote your product effectively yourself, or successfully recruit quality affiliates, you shouldn't need to worry about ClickBank - however, ClickBank has a TON of people who can make more sales for you, not to mention it's easier for them to just plug in their ClickBank ID. The drawbacks offset themselves, so to speak.

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mahesh2k

13 years ago

What about E-junkie ? if yo refuse to host your product at clickbank you can atleast get better deal from e-junkie. They got affiliate system as well and atleast less cookie leaks than clickbank.

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rondo

13 years ago

Digiresults.com allows you to sell via CB, PDC and PayPal at the same time, with one salespage.

There are also a few scripts available which achieve the same thing. eg clickbankswitch.com

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