Design work on websites like 99designs.com?

by LJeff
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Hi Warriors

I was just wondering if anyone here is doing any crowdsourcing work, for example on 99designs.com or designcrowd.com?

I have started entering designs on 99designs.com a week ago and to be honest I don't think my designs are that bad - even if I say so myself - but I find it so frustrating when you spend a whole day on a design and then you don't even get any feedback on what they want and of course don't win.

Has anyone here had any experiences with crowdsourcing? As I said I don't think my designs are that bad (you can see my designs here: Profile for LJeff | 99designs) but I just don't know. I'm not very well known yet and don't know how to find "proper" design work, apart from these websites.

Thank you and sorry for the little rant
#crowdsourcing #work
  • Profile picture of the author LJeff
    I guess it's only me then
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    As a making money endeavor, I would never "crowdsource" my work. Crowdsourcing for designers means nothing more than a whole bunch of designers work for nothing. If you aren't really confident of your work, it's ok to see if there's any interest but for making money when you can design, it's just an opportunity for freebie seeking, cheapo clients to get designers to work for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author LJeff
    Thank you sbucciarel

    I think it's not necessarily just people who aren't confident in their work. I think there are probably lots of people like me who just don't know how to approach possible clients or how to find "proper" work without having to rely on these sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by LJeff View Post

      Thank you sbucciarel

      I think it's not necessarily just people who aren't confident in their work. I think there are probably lots of people like me who just don't know how to approach possible clients or how to find "proper" work without having to rely on these sites.
      I used Elance for years with a lot of success for getting paying clients for design work. It's a far better option than giving your services away for free. You have to compete with a lot of other designers, but if you're good, you can win real projects and get paid for the work that you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Munch
    I think 99designs and sites like it (in the design space at least) are over-hyped and expensive.

    If there's on average 30 designers competing for one position, then 29 lose out every time. Let's so all being equal the average designer wins 1/30 times. At $300 that's only $10 per design.

    Build up a following and reputation and work directly with clients and you can charge $300 for a design, and even if you are not at that level you can offer your services cheaper, such as the $30 area while you build up your reputation, and still make more than 99 Designs.

    Similarly for a buyer, you spend a lot of extra money on a site like 99 Designs, compared to if you picked a decent up and coming designer on sites like eLance, oDesk or vWorker.

    If you are short on time for finding someone, then 99Designs makes sense for a quick solution, but if you have a lot of design work I would hire someone direct.

    I guess you could use 99Designs to try and find someone that way, so for a designer it may lead to ongoing work directly with a client, but I suspect that is quite rare since most people using 99Designs are just looking for one-off design work.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    To make decent money in something like web-design you need regular clients - that's the key. Plenty of the best mini-site designers always have to remove their order buttons from their websites because they have more work than they can handle. This is what happens when you build up a reputation for yourself. People are begging you to take their money.

    As someone already mentioned, most of the people submitting jobs on sites like 99designs are those with just one-off projects. So you won't end up with much regular work from designing for those types of sites.

    Most marketers, myself included, usually have one or two designers we use on a regular basis. It's hard to find people these days that are efficient and do good work - so when you find someone, you stick with them.

    My advice to you would be to post a WSO in the forum and offer your services dirt cheap for a little while so you can build up that loyal base of customers. There are always new marketers hitting the scene with little cash in their pockets so an offer like yours would always be well received. Then when they use your services and are happy with them, they have no reason to go elsewhere and you have yourself some regular clients.

    I know a guy who not so long ago did this exact same thing in the WSO forum and ended up booked out for weeks in advance. I know because he had to turn me away TWICE because he was soo busy.
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  • Profile picture of the author LJeff
    Thanks a lot sbucciarel, Chris, and Will!

    I have decided to not waste my time (and my sanity lol) on these sites anymore. I have just registered my own domain for offering my design services and I'm currently creating the design for it!

    I will not work for free anymore! And I will be successful!

    Thanks so much guys (and gals)
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    You are at a forum where there are over 200,000 people who need designs from time to time. You can't make the connection here?

    I'm just teasing you of course. ADVERTISE YOUR SERVICES HERE.

    Shame on you for not even having a signature for your services!!
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    • Profile picture of the author LJeff
      Originally Posted by AFI View Post

      You are at a forum where there are over 200,000 people who need designs from time to time. You can't make the connection here?

      I'm just teasing you of course. ADVERTISE YOUR SERVICES HERE.

      Shame on you for not even having a signature for your services!!
      Lol I hadn't really looked at that section before Will mentioned it
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  • Profile picture of the author HTMweb
    I was using them for some design ideas to put in my portfolio, knowing that the chances of winning are slim. It was good for getting me to think outside of my usual box, but that's about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by AFI View Post

      You are at a forum where there are over 200,000 people who need designs from time to time. You can't make the connection here?
      Exactly! No need to go anywhere else. If you can't make it work here then...

      Originally Posted by LJeff View Post

      I will not work for free anymore! And I will be successful!
      That's the spirit. And the great thing is, you don't even need a website up and running to run a WSO. As long as you have some samples of your work in the listing and the price is right, you will get some work.

      Just on a side note, I checked out your portfolio and the designs are good. But I noticed they were all just website designs. Do you, or have you thought about, doing things like ebook covers, website headers, etc? They are the sorts of things in big demand around these neck of the woods... just a thought.
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      • Profile picture of the author electronix
        Hi there LJeff, I came across a thread of yours and was re directed to your profile on 99 designs. Just wondering if you have any experience designing Apple / Android Apps. I'm currently building a soundboard. If interested, reply to this message and I'll fill you in with more details. Cheers, Adem
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