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newbie needs help!

by soliko
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hi, im a total newbie. im doing "the challange" and i had many hopes until i reached modul 3 when we need to submission articles to ezine articles.
now - until now i used the spinner program called "spinner chief" . you see the problem is that my main leanguage is not english. therefore i can understand the videos and what i need to do but when it get to write content and in particular submitting to ezine i get stuck: becouse: my articles are not proffesional and i even dont know if my spining is making sense to a native english speaker and becouse of that i think ezine will "kick me in the ass" so i stuck. if english was my main leanguage it was something els.
i really dont want to give up but what can i do?
i think there are a lot of people in the world that interesting in IM but there are in the same boat like me.
#newbie
  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    Sounds like you'll need to outsource your articles unfortunately. However there are many cheap alternatives like The Content Authority or even the Warriors For Hire section here.
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  • Profile picture of the author soliko
    ok and lets say i do want some one or some service(dont know any of them) to create for me articles and publish to ezine : how do i know if they approved my article and do you think it's a good idea for a newbie who isn't familiar with ezine articles to pay for submission too or should i learn to do it myself and only buy articles for my niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
    Either aim for your native language, learn to speak and write fluent english or as said pay for the articles to be done for you.

    Those are your main options. Another could be a voice writing program. If you can fluently pronounce the words but just struggle to type, see if some voice writing software will work.
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    • Profile picture of the author clint48
      You could write the article in your native language, run the article through Google translator and then have someone correct the mistakes for you. I have never done that before, but it would be less expensive than having someone write the full article for you.

      Clint
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  • Profile picture of the author vstar00
    ezine is very good, but not necessary. you can either outsource it, or skip it and focus your submissions elsewhere. Altho its probably worth getting at least one back link from ezine, so you may want to get a few articles written for you
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  • Profile picture of the author soliko
    i think the question is if i do spining with the spinner,and lets say i will change about 33%(dont know how much i really need) of my the words using spinning to get unique content in articles and tried to submited them to ezine article.will ezine will approve my articles or not? (alsoi just opend a new account).
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by soliko View Post

      i think the question is if i do spining with the spinner,and lets say i will change about 33%(dont know how much i really need) of my the words using spinning to get unique content in articles and tried to submited them to ezine article.will ezine will approve my articles or not? (alsoi just opend a new account).
      I have played around with spinners before, and my opinion is that they don't really work. Chance are high your spun articles will not get accepted, simply because they pretty much end up sounding contrived and strange, and very few, if any people are going to confuse it with a real article written from scratch by a native English writer.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author Apollo77
        Check out Freelancer.com and google "sites like freelancer.com" for even more options. You can find people willing to write your articles for $5, or even 2 or 3 articles for $5 sometimes.

        What niche are you working with? I have some PLR article packs I would be willing to give you if they match your niche, just PM me. But you would need to change the title and some content prob.

        The easiest way to do this, is grab a thesaurus or find one online and just start switching out synonyms, verbs, adjectives and any other words you can find a substitute for. I use a notepad.txt and copy a word, then use the "replace" option to replace that word every time it appears in the article with whatever word I tell it to.
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        • Profile picture of the author soliko
          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          I have played around with spinners before, and my opinion is that they don't really work. Chance are high your spun articles will not get accepted, simply because they pretty much end up sounding contrived and strange, and very few, if any people are going to confuse it with a real article written from scratch by a native English writer.

          Paul
          thank you for the information.


          Originally Posted by Apollo77 View Post

          Check out Freelancer.com and google "sites like freelancer.com" for even more options. You can find people willing to write your articles for $5, or even 2 or 3 articles for $5 sometimes.

          What niche are you working with? I have some PLR article packs I would be willing to give you if they match your niche, just PM me. But you would need to change the title and some content prob.

          The easiest way to do this, is grab a thesaurus or find one online and just start switching out synonyms, verbs, adjectives and any other words you can find a substitute for. I use a notepad.txt and copy a word, then use the "replace" option to replace that word every time it appears in the article with whatever word I tell it to.
          yes but the spinner have its own thesaurus and a very good one so why to look for another.
          (i pm you).
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        I have played around with spinners before, and my opinion is that they don't really work. Chance are high your spun articles will not get accepted, simply because they pretty much end up sounding contrived and strange, and very few, if any people are going to confuse it with a real article written from scratch by a native English writer.

        Paul
        Unless your willing to re-write full sentences for every paragraph etc

        Which can be very frustrating sometimes lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    If you're marketing to an English speaking audience, then yes, you'll have to outsource the writing to someone who can produce good, quality English language articles for you - especially if you are submitting to EZA.

    And, let's say you decide that you still want to write these articles yourself. So, you submit some articles to another directory that isn't as strict about quality. You'll still run into the problem of having people who read your articles be turned off by the poor English.

    No one will click through to your website from these types of articles anyway. Meaning, you won't make money from article marketing.

    So, you're back to outsourcing as your best option at this time.
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    • Profile picture of the author soliko
      Originally Posted by Fun to Write View Post

      If you're marketing to an English speaking audience, then yes, you'll have to outsource the writing to someone who can produce good, quality English language articles for you - especially if you are submitting to EZA.

      And, let's say you decide that you still want to write these articles yourself. So, you submit some articles to another directory that isn't as strict about quality. You'll still run into the problem of having people who read your articles be turned off by the poor English.

      No one will click through to your website from these types of articles anyway. Meaning, you won't make money from article marketing.

      So, you're back to outsourcing as your best option at this time.
      i have some question:
      1. if i pay for someone to write me articles should i pay for them for submitting it too to ezine articles or do you think it can be a problem for me?
      2. the conent that will sent to ezine has to be exactly the same like my blog posts?

      thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author fingers4hire
        Originally Posted by soliko View Post

        i have some question:
        1. if i pay for someone to write me articles should i pay for them for submitting it too to ezine articles or do you think it can be a problem for me?

        thanks!
        You can outsource the writing and submit the articles yourself. It is pretty easy to submit the articles to Ezine.
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      • Profile picture of the author fated82
        Originally Posted by soliko View Post

        i have some question:
        1. if i pay for someone to write me articles should i pay for them for submitting it too to ezine articles or do you think it can be a problem for me?
        You can do both. If you just want result, you can get them to open an acct for you and submit the articles on your behalf

        However, my recommendation is for you to do it yourself, because you can control your own acct.

        Originally Posted by soliko View Post

        2. the conent that will sent to ezine has to be exactly the same like my blog posts?
        thanks!
        Yes, you can send the same article on your blog to ezine. Condition though is that ezine sees you as the author of the article on your blog. Usually what people do is post it on their own blog first, have it crawled by google before submitting to ezine.
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        • Profile picture of the author steadypay
          Hi,

          I'm also a newbie and looking to learn the trade.

          I don't know what this challenge is you speak of but am interested to know.

          I'd be willing to team up with you to see if we can both practice and make something work.

          English is my 1st language so I could write the articles if you tell me what you know about this challenge thing so we can do a joint effort and see what comes of it.

          If interested reply here (if you can't send pm) but somehow I will have to have a contact detail cos neither of us can send pm I presume as you're also under 50 post count like me.

          Anyway I'll subscribe to topic, let me know if your interested in a team up.
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  • Profile picture of the author soliko
    ok but i wanna know also if the conent that will sent to ezine has to be exactly the same like my blog posts?
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  • Profile picture of the author waken
    Even if your mother tongue is English.. spinning software don't make it in par with original article.

    Get Whitesmoke to check your grammer etc. It's a good software.
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      • Profile picture of the author soliko
        i tried what you suggest me to do and here are the reasult:
        randomaly, i tooked an article from ezine.

        first (the original from ezine articles)

        Everyone hears about writing blogs now and then but very few people get serious about it. Some people do not even want to reveal their ignorance and to hide that they simply do not ask what they actually are.

        It is simply an online journal that is updated regularly, some even daily. Every blog contains information related to a certain topic. Some people use blogs as their daily diaries and write about their personal lives, political views and commentaries. You can make a blog on any topic you want!

        Blogging started in the early 1990's it is not clear who started the first one but it is clear that after 1999 it became very popular.

        These early blogs were primarily private commentaries and mostly web tours, they which contained the thoughts and activities of the author. Today, almost every one contains at least a portion of the latest web contents!

        Blogging is a trendy and classy thing to do which allows you to write whatever you want. Moreover, you can add any type of media to your articles, which will enhance the experience for the reader. You can of course insert links that are related and useful to the message of your writing.

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        "Content is the king" and this is especially true when we talk about blogging. Not only because they are the ones being found by search engines for site optimization but also they give visitors a reason to come back to get additional information.

        What are some types of blogs?

        The first type of blog is the "Professional Blog". Such blogs keep their customers or perspectives updated about the latest news or updates in their industry. Visitors can get lots of useful business information from this blog. Professional blogs are needed to be at top in Google results and that is why these blogs are updated regularly with fresh and new content. This also increases the page rank of a specific site because they are submitted to blogging directories.

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        A basic question that arises here is what is the most widely used blogging type?

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  • Profile picture of the author aj113
    Originally Posted by soliko View Post

    hi, im a total newbie. im doing "the challange" and i had many hopes until i reached modul 3 when we need to submission articles to ezine articles.
    now - until now i used the spinner program called "spinner chief" . you see the problem is that my main leanguage is not english. therefore i can understand the videos and what i need to do but when it get to write content and in particular submitting to ezine i get stuck: becouse: my articles are not proffesional and i even dont know if my spining is making sense to a native english speaker and becouse of that i think ezine will "kick me in the ass" so i stuck.....
    There is one way to find out. Submit an article, the worst that will happen is that Ezine will reject it - you won't lose your account or anything like that, and even if you do, you can soon open another.

    You have some basic English. Rewrite an article in SpinnerChief, replacing every fourth word with a synonym - this will preserve 75% of the original article but it may just be enough to make it 'unique' for Ezine. Give it your best shot, try to make it readable and then submit.

    You may be surprised at the result - the quality of Ezine articles is very low these days, and it is easy to see that many people are doing exactly what you are trying to do, because the articles clearly have poorly chosen synonyms.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author peace1
    Well, and article spinner won't help you if your english isn't good enough to write articles. I'm fortunate enough that my wife is american :-) I help her with websites...she helps me out with corrections.

    If you outsource articles, you have to be sure that it's worthwhile. You can easily burn your money and spend $100 dollars for 20 articles, submit them to Ezine and don't really have any benefit from it, if you go about this in a wrong way.

    Here are a few places to get articles:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...-per-word.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-99-cents.html

    All the best for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Carczak
    Write about the things you truly know
    and opn up a little (a lot) ... I find most
    articles are boring because people are
    scared to put their personality out there
    in fear of being laughed at.
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