Can I copy my own site posts to use for article submission?

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if you are creating your own website content and then copying your own post to use for article submission, doesn't that fly in the face of the idea of everything being original content?

Also, do I need to create a different article for each site that I submit to or can I use the same article for submission to multiple sites?

Trying to stay within the "original content" for posts and articles as I have been advised to do.

I am new, so bear with my questions.

Thanks much!
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  • Profile picture of the author JHC81
    If you copy content from your website you're article will get most likely flagged. It is better to use unique content for each article website google like it and so do article directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author leuven6
      unique original content is the only way to make good results
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    • Profile picture of the author RunningBear
      Hmmmm, I have seen time and time again on this forum that you can submit your website/blog content exactly as is to article directories without a penalty from Google. This is important for me to know because that is exactly what I was going to do. Maybe a veteran warrior can clear this up...
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    Originally Posted by Amy Garrison View Post

    If you copy content from your website you're article will get most likely flagged. It is better to use unique content for each article website google like it and so do article directories.
    I've always posted to my website first and then submitted to ezinearticles afterwards and never had a problem with it. I imagine they'd like totally unique, but unless they've made recent changes they don't demand it. They just demand that the article is yours and that you can prove it.

    I have no reason to believe it would matter if I then submitted the identical piece to other directories as I don't think I've ever done it. I usually do change it up a bit for the other directories after my own site and ezinearticles have had it, but the same version of article MKII goes out to them all. If these articles are getting flagged by anyone then they are not feeling a thing and still pulling in profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheFreebieGuy
    I would recommend modifying your article a little. It can be flagged as duplicate content, and you don't want to take the risk. Either way, since your site posted it first, and hopefully will get indexed first, your site probably won't be flagged. However, to get the best bang out of your submissions, you want it to be somewhat unique.

    You can always purchase an article spinner and do it that way. It goes through your articles and automatically spins it to a new enough article not to get flagged by google. They are relatively inexpensive and you can turn one article into many. There are a few good quality spinners out there and if you are REALLY not trying to redo the content yourself, that would be the way to go.

    I haven't personally used them, but I know some people who have and have had some decent success with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      Do not worry about getting flagged, internet is based on duplicate content. Only duplicate content you need to worry about is if you post the same article multiple times on your website.

      If you have time and recourses, the original content will always give you the best results but if not using the same content will do the job as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author sap?
    try to spin or rewrite ur article mate..u wont get disappoint then...
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  • Profile picture of the author Eager2SEO
    Originally Posted by yahmonyah View Post

    if you are creating your own website content and then copying your own post to use for article submission, doesn't that fly in the face of the idea of everything being original content?

    Also, do I need to create a different article for each site that I submit to or can I use the same article for submission to multiple sites?

    Trying to stay within the "original content" for posts and articles as I have been advised to do.

    I am new, so bear with my questions.

    Thanks much!
    Some duplicate content is acceptable, many newspapers across the world republish identical articles and Google indexes them. It would be impossible for every newspaper in the world to have reporters covering every story. Also, you want to syndicate your content to a very wide audience. It is incorrect to think everyone will visit your site, read ezinearticles or even use Google. However, everyone should get the chance to read your great content!

    Newspapers and other publications also combine duplicate work with their local content to create a unique mashup. I've seen WebMD articles in Google Health. The problem with our articles revolves around the fact that they end up on directory pages with no other content.

    Search engines will ignore them after they are spidered too many times in various directories. The penalty of that is no backlink credit. The best solution is to vary text somewhat. I've heard even changing titles, first paragraphs, adding HTML markup, etc helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author georgelaurelle
    yeah, spin or rewrite...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Amy Garrison View Post

      If you copy content from your website you're article will get most likely flagged.
      Originally Posted by leuven6 View Post

      unique original content is the only way to make good results
      Originally Posted by TheFreebieGuy View Post

      I would recommend modifying your article a little. It can be flagged as duplicate content, and you don't want to take the risk.
      Originally Posted by sap? View Post

      try to spin or rewrite ur article mate..u wont get disappoint then...
      Originally Posted by georgelaurelle View Post

      yeah, spin or rewrite...
      All of that is rather inaccurate, I'm afraid.

      You're confusing "duplicate content" with "syndicated content".

      Some article directories will accept content that's been spun, especially if it's been spun well enough for them not to notice, but the backlink you'll get from spun content is absolutely identical in every respect to the backlink you'll get from syndicated content.

      Like many other professional article marketers, I have about 1,000 articles on Ezine Articles (and many of them are elsewhere, too). All of them had originally been published in identical form on one of my own sites first and indexed there, prior to EZA submission. EZA welcomes, solicits and specifically invites such content. Nobody will "flag" anything for having previously been published. It's all complete nonsense.

      The only article directory I know of that requires unpublished content (and the one I'll never use, for that reason) is "Buzzle".

      If I can offer a suggestion, without offending anyone, you'd all be helped a lot, rather than repeating and propagating and reinforcing these urban myths of internet marketing, based on total misunderstandings, by reading all the conversation in this fine thread slowly and carefully. Rarely, if ever before or since, have so many successful article marketing experts posted here, all together in one thread, all saying the same thing. Take heart; take notice. Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest! And then maybe stop repeating these myths?
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      • Profile picture of the author BinBinWu
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        All of that is rather inaccurate, I'm afraid.

        You're confusing "duplicate content" with "syndicated content".

        Some article directories will accept content that's been spun, especially if it's been spun well enough for them not to notice, but the backlink you'll get from spun content is absolutely identical in every respect to the backlink you'll get from syndicated content.

        Like many other professional article marketers, I have about 1,000 articles on Ezine Articles (and many of them are elsewhere, too). All of them had originally been published in identical form on one of my own sites first and indexed there, prior to EZA submission. EZA welcomes, solicits and specifically invites such content. Nobody will "flag" anything for having previously been published. It's all complete nonsense.

        The only article directory I know of that requires unpublished content (and the one I'll never use, for that reason) is "Buzzle".
        Wow, GREAT INFORMATION! It makes my mind clear what I should do about article submitting. Basically, publish in my site first then get indexed, then submit to article directories. AND THX to the Thread Poster, This is the exact question I wanted to ASK to you warriors
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      • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        All of that is rather inaccurate, I'm afraid.

        You're confusing "duplicate content" with "syndicated content".

        stop repeating these myths?
        I would have posted the entire quote but I think you all get the basis of her point.

        People...seriously....duplicate content IS a myth, at least in the way you are all thinking of it.

        It's been said a thousand times on this forum (probably more actually):

        Duplicate content ONLY relates to having the same content posted more than once on the same site. It has NOTHING to do with republishing content across several sites.

        I don't mean to come off like an jerk but I think I've honestly seen this particular myth in 10 or more threads in the last day or so. I just don't understand how this continues to live...correction...it's because people who don't really know continue to spread it.
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  • Profile picture of the author vstar00
    erm there is a wordpress plugin to submit your blog posts to ezine. you can submit the EXACT post with no penalty. The only problem is that your site will be competitiveness with the Ezine post for the same keywords, so you are risking out ranking yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by Amy Garrison View Post

      If you copy content from your website you're article will get most likely flagged. It is better to use unique content for each article website google like it and so do article directories.
      Originally Posted by leuven6 View Post

      unique original content is the only way to make good results
      Originally Posted by Lrsamuel View Post

      I would recommend modifying your article a little. It can be flagged as duplicate content, and you don't want to take the risk. Either way, since your site posted it first, and hopefully will get indexed first, your site probably won't be flagged. However, to get the best bang out of your submissions, you want it to be somewhat unique.

      You can always purchase an article spinner and do it that way. It goes through your articles and automatically spins it to a new enough article not to get flagged by google. They are relatively inexpensive and you can turn one article into many. There are a few good quality spinners out there and if you are REALLY not trying to redo the content yourself, that would be the way to go.

      I haven't personally used them, but I know some people who have and have had some decent success with them.
      Originally Posted by sap? View Post

      try to spin or rewrite ur article mate..u wont get disappoint then...
      Originally Posted by georgelaurelle View Post

      yeah, spin or rewrite...
      You guys can keep doing things the hard way and making extra work for yourself if you want. The rest of us will continue to put our work on our own websites first and then syndicate to other sites. If you guys want to build EZA's real estate, feel free to do so.

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  • Profile picture of the author marcromero
    Yes you can but make sure you spin them so that you do not get slapped in the face by google for duplicate content. I suggest you spin unique for each article directory as well
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  • Profile picture of the author rawservices
    Ehh could, should, would?

    Better to have dynamic content; but if you spin it you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxseo
    unique content does not matter in my review so go with it and get experiences with different tactics it will get you at the point where you can never experiences in your online business...
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  • Profile picture of the author va_mom
    the answer is simple... go ahead, post your article to any article directories. but just make sure that the post on your site or blog has been indexed already.
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  • Profile picture of the author bertyounger
    If you want to repurpose your old postings modify accoridngly and then run them through a service such as copyscape to see if they are unique enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Soupyone
    Originally Posted by yahmonyah View Post

    if you are creating your own website content and then copying your own post to use for article submission, doesn't that fly in the face of the idea of everything being original content?

    Also, do I need to create a different article for each site that I submit to or can I use the same article for submission to multiple sites?

    Trying to stay within the "original content" for posts and articles as I have been advised to do.

    I am new, so bear with my questions.

    Thanks much!
    You'll run into three issues:

    1. You're going to see that those article sites with greater authority will dilute the original content on your site by ranking higher for keywords your site may have ranked for.

    2. Supplemental indexing always becomes an issue.

    3. Some of the sites like seeing original content being submitted.

    A better idea would be to use an article spinner and submit different versions.
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  • Profile picture of the author PatMil
    Just starting out this subject appears to the one with the most "urban legends"!
    Thanks for the clarification but please clear up the issue about the indexing sequence. As I understand it the search engines will only "see" (if that's the right term?) the article once for search purposes as in a search they don't want to have the same article coming up multiple times?
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    • Profile picture of the author tremayne
      Use your article on your site then spin it...but makes sure the different versions read right afterward. Then submit a different version to each directory. Google will not penalize you for duplicate content but they will list your article just once so all the work of posting it elsewhere is wasted.

      Think of it this way: Google's lifeblood is interesting content. What's interesting about pages and pages of the same article?

      Change the wording, the paragraph order, particularly change the first paragraph, headline and resource box.

      Then you could have dozens or hundreds of links back to your site. It takes work but don't take the easy way out.
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  • Profile picture of the author danes1
    Technically you can, but I don't suggest that you do. If its duplicate content then it's not original even if you're the one who wrote it. Also, you don't want someone to read your article and then find the exact same writing work on your website or blog. At minimum you will want to change 30% of your article before publishing it on your site/blog. You can usually achieve this by changing the first and last sentence of each paragraph. By changing 30% of the article it will appear as original content, but again think about your readers.

    Most article directories will allow you to publish articles that are already published some where else and others will not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Haphiza
      I do not know about spinning article so for me I would change around a few things to make it different.

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      • Profile picture of the author bretski
        December 6th must be "duplicate content" day or something!... and I find it funny that there are posters with under 20 posts to their name advising that you need to spin, rewrite etc and the old timers (sorry.. no offense to the youngish ladies here) that have experience that are trying to explain what duplicate content really is and the holes in the myths surrounding duplicate content.

        One thing that I will add though is that WP does make it very easy to post your articles to directories with the formatting just the way you want it, including hyperlinks. Just go to the HTML tab on your article on your site, copy and paste into the submit form on the article directory of your choice. And for those sites that don't allow bold etc in the body of the articles you can just copy and paste from your site and then snag the html from inside wp-admin for your resource box... just make sure you remove any bold tags for sites like Article Dashboard.
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        • Profile picture of the author Soupyone
          Originally Posted by bretski View Post

          December 6th must be "duplicate content" day or something!... and I find it funny that there are posters with under 20 posts to their name advising that you need to spin, rewrite etc and the old timers (sorry.. no offense to the youngish ladies here) that have experience that are trying to explain what duplicate content really is and the holes in the myths surrounding duplicate content.

          One thing that I will add though is that WP does make it very easy to post your articles to directories with the formatting just the way you want it, including hyperlinks. Just go to the HTML tab on your article on your site, copy and paste into the submit form on the article directory of your choice. And for those sites that don't allow bold etc in the body of the articles you can just copy and paste from your site and then snag the html from inside wp-admin for your resource box... just make sure you remove any bold tags for sites like Article Dashboard.
          You sure got us, if we don't have a lot of posts we must be new to the industry...

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by danes1 View Post

      If its duplicate content then it's not original even if you're the one who wrote it.
      If it's on your site, say, and then you submit it to an article directory, it isn't "duplicate content", Danes: that isn't what "duplicate content" means (to Google). It's syndicated content.

      Originally Posted by danes1 View Post

      Also, you don't want someone to read your article and then find the exact same writing work on your website or blog.
      Why not?

      If someone gets to my site and stays there long enough to find it (and they'd have to look really hard), I'm absolutely delighted to have a visitor staying so long.

      More to the point, I want my site to get it indexed before anyone else gets a whiff of it. It's my content that I wrote. I'm building up my site, not other people's. I want it there.

      Originally Posted by danes1 View Post

      Most article directories will allow you to publish articles that are already published some where else and others will not.
      "Buzzle" is the only article directory I've ever heard of that won't.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOExpert999
    Yes just change about 30% to 50% of each page. So if you have 5 paragraphs reword 3 of them.
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    All depends on who you are submitting to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    I've been reading through the Google webmaster help forums, and I've seen several threads where people complained about their sites losing ranking and "bionic helpers" (and even a Google employee) saying something about their site having little original content, alluding that this is the reason why their site is sucking in the SERPs. In some of those cases it was a person who had posted most of their entire site to article directories.

    I suppose I'd tend to believe the people that have been doing this for a while. It would make sense that there would be no penalty for doing this. However, I've never seen anyone actually say that posting things from your website to article directories has any benefit to doing this. It seems plausible to me that Google might devalue a link coming from a site that is 95% identical to something already on your site. This is assuming you're submitting articles for the backlinks, which it seems like the only reason to do it if you're not specifically article marketing (the way I understand it).

    The whole SEO thing really sucks. It's almost impossible to tell what is truth or is someone perpetuating a lie because they sell software that's supposed to help the "problem." Hell, this is a competitive field. For all I know it could be people trying to convince you things are "okay" to do knowing full well that they aren't. I'm not insinuating anything... it's just so incredibly confusing because there are very, very few objective facts about the whole thing and a LOT of people trying to make money from that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by mattward View Post

      I've never seen anyone actually say that posting things from your website to article directories has any benefit to doing this.
      I'm unreservedly happy to say that, because it happens to be exactly how I make a living. That's a "benefit", isn't it?

      I take you as meaning specifically "an SEO benefit to your site". I get huge SEO benefits to my sites by posting articles already published on my sites to article directories. Well, to EZA, anyway. (I'm not, of course, claiming that I get bigger benefits that way than I would by posting new content there instead - but hey, that would be an atrocious waste of new content: if I had new content as well, I'd have twice as much content and still post the new content to my sites first and then to EZA. You have to compare like with like, after all ).

      Originally Posted by mattward View Post

      there are very, very few objective facts about the whole thing and a LOT of people trying to make money from that.
      Yes, indeed. I certainly won't dispute that one.

      But it has to be that way, I think, at least to some extent, because there are many aspects of it about which Google can't possibly be expected to spell out every detail, you know? You wouldn't either, if you were Google.
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