Just wrote my 1st article on ezine articles, a few questions

13 years ago

Let's say that a site named A is your site or blog.

If B is another site and B links to your site A, the link on B is called a backlink to A.

From wikipedia:

Backlinks are incoming links to a website or web page. Inbound links were originally important (prior to the emergence of search engines) as a primary means of web navigation; today their significance lies in search engine optimization (SEO).

Backlink - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are a lot of SEO guidelines you need to follow to get the best results from your efforts. Well I presume you must have already read a guide about it.

There are tons of resources on the forum - Free WSO's, free courses teaching you what you need to know.

I encourage you to check it out.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

I see that you aren't allowed to have direct links to clickbank.

Not at EZA, no. There are some article directories which allow it.

It's no loss. "Direct links" from an article directory to a hoplink are a very poor way of trying to sell Clickbank products anyway. The two fundamentals of selling those, as an affiliate, are (i) to pre-sell effectively from some sort of blog/site (whether with a "review", a personal story, or whatever), and (ii) to build a list with an opt-in. By "direct-linking", of course, you can do neither. So not very productive at all.

Originally Posted by steadypay

Is this what a backlink is? If not what is a backlink cos I've read the term thrown around alot.

A backlink is a clickable link to one page from another.

In the eyes of a search engine, the number of backlinks to a page says something about how "important/popular" the page linked to is (when the page carrying the backlink is either contextually relevant or well respected itself, or both, anyway - not so much otherwise), and in general the more quality backlinks you have, the more likely your site is to move up the search engine results-page listings. (Well, it's actually not quite as simple as that, but that's the quick, simplified explanation, anyway).

Good luck!

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steadypay

13 years ago

So if the links had to be quality is it not faesible to just make loads of websites and link to each other?

What defines a quality site anyhow? Just how many ppl link to it?

If so why not just make a hundred sites and have them all link to each other?

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

So if the links had to be quality is it not faesible to just make loads of websites and link to each other?

It's feasible, and some people do it. But if they're all non-context-relevant, pr-0 pages, the backlniking value's really very small indeed.

Originally Posted by steadypay

What defines a quality site anyhow? Just how many ppl link to it?

Nobody knows (so beware of anyone pretending to!) because what you're asking there is really "the secret of Google's algorithms", which, for the most part, they don't disclose.

But certainly "how many people link to it" is a part of it, and certainly it isn't the only part of it.

Age, page-rank, degree of "authority", quality of incoming backlinks, and the extent to which its relevant to your site are probably the main things that matter to you.

A link on a "pr-6 article directory", for example, doesn't necessarily have quite the power that some people imagine, because (i) it's not a context-relevant backlink, and (ii) the "pr-6" bit will be the site's home-page, and your article won't (usually) be on the home page, but on some pr-0 page (to start with, anyway). (There are exceptions to this, as to most things!).

Originally Posted by steadypay

If so why not just make a hundred sites and have them all link to each other?

There are many people who do exactly that, rather than trying to learn and understand some of the intricacies and complications ... and they tend to get pretty disappointed when it doesn't seem to help their site a lot.
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- steadypay 13 years ago
  
  cool, thanks for the info
  
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- mitashseo 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  It's feasible, and some people do it. But if they're all non-context-relevant, pr-0 pages, the backlniking value's really very small indeed.
  
  Yes, many people do it. However, all these practices are considered as link exchanging schemes and this will certainly degrade the quality of your links even though you link to Good PR sites. The name itself says that this process is purely for the sake of obtaining and promoting links.
  
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  Kay King 13 years ago
  
  Once it's cleared and gone live I'll post it up here so people can critique it.
  
  As you are running an "articles for hire" ad - that would be seen as promotional and is not a good idea.
  
  Your questions are so far ranging that the answers are also becoming "out there". Why would you need "quality sites"? Because in the end the point of putting a site online is to attract visitors to the site so the site must appeal to and provide some value to the visitors.
  
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mitashseo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

So if the links had to be quality is it not faesible to just make loads of websites and link to each other? What defines a quality site anyhow? Just how many ppl link to it? If so why not just make a hundred sites and have them all link to each other?

These are called as reciprocal linking or link-exchanging practices. And according to Google's guidelines if a website found with excessive reciprocal links or involved in excessive link exchanging programs it can negatively impact your search rankings. So never involve in such things.

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JamieSEO

13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

So if the links had to be quality is it not faesible to just make loads of websites and link to each other?

What defines a quality site anyhow? Just how many ppl link to it?

If so why not just make a hundred sites and have them all link to each other?

The Page Rank plays a part in how valuable a backlink is, so if you are linking from a PR0 site to yours it is worth very little. Typically people aim for backlinks from PR4 or higher.

As for what defines a quality site... according to the experts it is made up of about 25 on-site factors and hundreds of off-site factors.

Google does have a video about it, however they change their algorithms whenever they wish, so you would need to take what they say with a grain of salt.

Typically the rule "Content is King" is good to go with.

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steadypay 13 years ago

I get what you all are saying about building a list of followers etc. but this is more long term. That is fine and I see it should be my goal of course but as a newbie what would be the easiest way to make just one sale?

Once I've done it once I can see what worked and what didn't and then be able to work more from my own initiative and 'scale up'.

I signed up to a free ecourse of Jimmy Wrex who seems to offer good content (yea I'm also learning about marketing just by how he has his site and content offering setup) who guides you through the process of making your 1st sale so gonna go through that.
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- Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by steadypay
  
  Once I've done it once I can see what worked and what didn't
  
  Wrong.
  
  In order to start seeing what worked and what didn't, you need to have done it 20+ times.
  
  And that's why you need to build a list, and you need to start doing that the day you start. The day after is too late.
  
  Your reasoning is superficially attractive and most amiable and palatable, but actually entirely mistaken, here. Starting off from one sale, seeing what worked, and scaling it up is not the way to make a living from this: it's the way to settle for second-best or third-best or fourth-best, not really to learn anything useful at all, and just to drift along never even seeing what the potential is from doing things properly.
  
  If you try to do this without building a list, you're not just doing the same thing a different, more difficult, less efficient way. You're actually doing a different thing, and what you try to learn from it will have very limited applicability to the real world of internet marketing.
  
  Sorry, but you did ask (sort of).
  
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  steadypay 13 years ago
  
  That's fine but before you rip my head off for it I was just parroting what others have advised on here .
  
  I couldn't say who is more right but will take all the advice onboard and try it out myself.
  
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ReachOneMedia

13 years ago

Well you could buy a domain and hosting plan... build yourself a great landing page to presell your clickbank product and collect email (why not)

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Ron Ansy

13 years ago

I sent a PM to EZA support team to be clear on this and they replied that, the link can direct to your sales page BUT no affiliate links if you know what I mean.. also you can direct the visitors/readers or your article to your Facebook Fanpage as well..

hope it helps..

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steadypay

13 years ago

So it seems like google is somewhat of an demigod force in the world of IM who arbitrarily dictates what shall and shall not pass as acceptable to which all mortals must adhere

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StephanieMojica

13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

So it seems like google is somewhat of an demigod force in the world of IM who arbitrarily dictates what shall and shall not pass as acceptable to which all mortals must adhere

That's one way of looking at it, but how about this way?

A growing number of people go straight to Amazon, eZinearticles, YouTube, Warrior Forum, etc. when looking for new info including products to purchase. If you can get good presence in one or all of those places then that's just as important (in some cases even more so) than worshipping the Google rank.

Peace,
Stephanie

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by StephanieMojica

A growing number of people go straight to Amazon, eZinearticles, YouTube, Warrior Forum, etc. when looking for new info including products to purchase.

Not my experience at all, I must say.

I've never heard of customers "going straight to EZA" to look for information. In my experience, people "going straight to EZA" are competitors, marketers and researchers. I think all the people who join my lists as potential customers, or just click on an affiliate link without opting in, via EZA, are those who found an EZA article listed in Google SERP's. My customers haven't even heard of EZA before, let alone "going straight there".

(I see that some internet marketers, wanting to buy internet marketing advice products will come here to look at WSO's, of course).
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

So it seems like google is somewhat of an demigod force in the world of IM who arbitrarily dictates what shall and shall not pass as acceptable to which all mortals must adhere

Only people who want to be able to attract traffic through Google's search results. That's a lot of people, though. And I suspect that for the most part they decide it in accordance with their perceptions of "giving searchers what they're probably looking for" rather than "arbitrarily", myself.

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StephanieMojica

13 years ago

No, you can't have affiliate links in your eZineArticles but you can have it on your website. Also, eZineArticles can be a GREAT way to build an opt-in list; so I hope your website has a form to fill in where people can get a free giveaway (like a short report or podcast) and then get on your list. These people can become potential customers for all products you sell; whether through Clickbank or your own original products.

Good luck!

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TheGrooby

13 years ago

If you don't care to build a list or pre-sell the product, you can purchase a domain (.info is cheap) and redirect that domain using your affiliate link. To redirect the domain, use the control panel of the domain seller you're using. For instance, Godaddy has a control panel with domain settings/options. There is a field that allows you to redirect www.yoursite.com to www.youraffiliatelink.com. This will satisfy the article directories that don't allow direct linking to your affiliate product, but will still send the reader straight to the sales page.

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j21media

13 years ago

Yeah sounds like you got the backlink term correct. When you hear the term anchor text backlink it means the keyword you want to rank for should be hyperlink to your website. So if you look at my signature, affordable seo is hyperlinked to my website and this carries more authority than just a www link You want to keep trying new article websites aswell as using Ezine to get a good spread. Try Go Articles, Hub Pages and Squidoo as well - all pretty good and easy to use.

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steadypay

13 years ago

With regards direct linking...is it considered tacky and poor form to do that straight from a 2 bit ezine article?

I only ask because from my own experience I've always felt like I've been coerced to the sales page when it is a direct link and it generally degrades whatever content was in the article as I then feel it was just a ruse to usher me to the sales page.

I don't know whether I'm in the minority or not though.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

While the article is waiting to go up should I invest in a domain then?

You'll need a domain, if you plan to make money from the affiliate marketing of Clickbank products, yes.

Originally Posted by steadypay

Also is there an easy way to check if people are looking at my article 1st but second if they are going onto the affiliate link page?

Yes, fortunately very easy: you can see the first in your author account at EZA and the second in your affiliate account at Clickbank.

Originally Posted by steadypay

With regards direct linking...is it considered tacky and poor form to do that straight from a 2 bit ezine article?

It doesn't really matter whether it's considered tacky or poor form. The point about this is explained in post #3 above.

Originally Posted by steadypay

I only ask because from my own experience I've always felt like I've been coerced to the sales page when it is a direct link and it generally degrades whatever content was in the article as I then feel it was just a ruse to usher me to the sales page.

I don't know whether I'm in the minority or not though.

I suspect not.

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steadypay

13 years ago

Thanks again for the info.

Ok, so will I require a domain for each product or will just one be able to give me the jumpoff to all my other aff market links for diff products?

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dremora

13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

Thanks again for the info.

Ok, so will I require a domain for each product or will just one be able to give me the jumpoff to all my other aff market links for diff products?

You can make a subdirectory or subdomain linking to your own products or a preselling blog post/page for clickbank affiliate products.

The main purpose for EZA articles is getting backlink and increase your ranking. EZA articles rank for low competition keywords very often. Make sure to do your keyword research well and pick a really good, low competition, high search keyword for your anchor text. You can rank your ezine articles for the search (which wil bring referral traffic to your site if you did your resource box right and people click on it).

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steadypay

13 years ago

Originally Posted by dremora

Make sure to do your keyword research well and pick a really good, low competition, high search keyword for your anchor text. You can rank your ezine articles for the search (which wil bring referral traffic to your site if you did your resource box right and people click on it).

Right. Yes this will be the next thing for me to learn. The keyword stuff. I had a quick look today but will look into it properly tomorrow as the day is almost done!

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Carlsbadd

13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

With regards direct linking...is it considered tacky and poor form to do that straight from a 2 bit ezine article?

I only ask because from my own experience I've always felt like I've been coerced to the sales page when it is a direct link and it generally degrades whatever content was in the article as I then feel it was just a ruse to usher me to the sales page.

I don't know whether I'm in the minority or not though.

That depends on how you write the article and the niche you are in.

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Bingo123

13 years ago

Yip that sounds like you have everything correct there.

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Kay King 13 years ago

So it seems like google is somewhat of an demigod force in the world of IM who arbitrarily dictates what shall and shall not pass as acceptable to which all mortals must adhere

Google is a search engine and chooses what it thinks is most relevant for its users. Pretty simple concept when you think about it.
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steadypay

13 years ago

While the article is waiting to go up should I invest in a domain then?

Also is there an easy way to check if people are looking at my article 1st but second if they are going onto the affiliate link page?

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Jessica21

13 years ago

Ezine is a quality website and it help users to get the information and tips on different topics. Ezine strongly forbid you to use any advertisement tone so try to submit qulaity articles with correct English structure and provide tips and benefits and other research in the form of articles. This site gives you quality backlinks and targeted traffic on your site.

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cody123 13 years ago

Consider article marketing a way to offer valuable content and establish yourself as an expert in your field. If your content is useful, they'll want to click on your link that will bring them to your website.

Never end the article! Allow it to lead into them wanting to know more information. For example:

"These very same videos launched my successful online business"

or

"This program changed my life and I know it will change yours"

End of article.

This will leave your readers wanting to click your link to know more about your offer. However, don't try to sell them something direct from your website. Instead, give them more information that will help them solve a problem.

Build your list.

Once you have a list in place, continue to provide free information, freebies and content. This way, you'll establish trust, remove barriers and then you can send them offers.

The article is only a welcome mat, your website is your home and your quality content is the food you put on the table. Feed them good food and they'll stick around for dessert (i.e. your affiliate offer).
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sk8er431

13 years ago

interesting discussion about backlinking, so if you have backlinks on high pr sites you get a good traffic and ranking for your site? so which is better? 10 backlinks on a pr0 site or 1 or 2 backlinks on a high PR site?

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by sk8er431

which is better? 10 backlinks on a pr0 site or 1 or 2 backlinks on a high PR site?

You have to test it for yourself.

My experience is limited to only 9 niches (out of thousands, obviously). But in all my own niches, I've found that one or two backlinks on higher-PR sites are far, far better. Absolutely no comparison at all. But what makes the really big difference is whether they're context-relevant sites or not.

My own opinion, from my own experience, is that PR-0 pages in "lesser" article directories are very, very close to worthless (other than for potential future syndication value, obviously). It may literally take many, many thousands of them to give the backlinking power of one backlink from a relevant, non-directory, higher-PR page. (The authors of the most basic, introductory textbooks on the subject certainly seem to think this, too.)
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steadypay

13 years ago

I just read this on the free marketing course I have singed up to:

The first thing that I suggest to you is choosing a niche that you are interested in. People tend to worry so much about having the perfect niche (or the most profitable one), when the reality of success online roots from "understanding the niche".

So i have a niche I am very knowledgeable in and could talk about indefinately on.

Does this mean that if I am a pro in knowledge in my niche that I can still win out the competition with my content?

This would make a distinction between the content the marketer offers vs. the content of a given product...

So if I'm an expert in a niche is it feasible to just stay with that one niche and mine it? I was also just looking at the competition on keyword searches and it's less than half of the bar, more like a quarter.

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Fun to Write

13 years ago

Don't focus on "throwing up" articles. Write your articles with the intent of helping people solve a problem or making their lives better in some way. Lots of people throw up poor articles that don't convert, and then they think article marketing doesn't work.

You've gotta write for real people who are looking for solutions online. Remember that, and you'll do well.

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steadypay 13 years ago

Like I said if I'm doing it in this niche which I know loads about, I hazard that I know more than 90% of people on this, then I can give content in my sleep.

That was my main query...could I just mine one niche indefinitely?

I'm presuming yes considering that most 'static' businesses stick to one product so I don't see why it would be much different for IM.
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- Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by steadypay
  
  That was my main query...could I just mine one niche indefinitely?
  
  If there are enough products in it, and as long as it's a "buying niche", then in principle, yes.
  
  A fairly reliable way to assess that is to look at the AdWords ads that come up on Google when you search for some of the niche's primary (and secondary) keywords. If there are always plenty of different ones (i.e. not just the same few every time you look) that's quite a good indication that people are buying something, in the niche.
  
  For an article marketer, it's a great advantage to know the subject inside-out. It significantly increases your chances of being able to tell people things they didn't know about the niche in an original way - and that's what gets articles syndicated. And that's where the real money is.
  
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