What Is The Point Of Hub Pages?

18 years ago

I only have one hub, and it's a bit old, but I should do more. It has a high score and hasn't been flagged. This was before I had a webpage, so my link is to a free blogger blog where I was reviewing three clickbank books. I have a link to this blog twice (rule number 4). My first link is in my second paragraph, the second one is in the last.

I even have the sentence, "if you are interested in learning all about niche, go to this site."

You can promote yourself, you just have to give them unique content in return. Note this rule: "promotional links can only be included on content that is exclusive to HubPages." So, no mass submitting. You'll have to rewrite any articles that you want to put on hubpages.

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Originally Posted by cclou

I only have one hub, and it's a bit old, but I should do more. It has a high score and hasn't been flagged. This was before I had a webpage, so my link is to a free blogger blog where I was reviewing three clickbank books. I have a link to this blog twice (rule number 4). My first link is in my second paragraph, the second one is in the last.

I even have the sentence, "if you are interested in learning all about niche, go to this site."

You can promote yourself, you just have to give them unique content in return. Note this rule: "promotional links can only be included on content that is exclusive to HubPages." So, no mass submitting. You'll have to rewrite any articles that you want to put on hubpages.

Okay, so you CAN promote one of your other sites as long as the
content one the hub page is unique to the hub page?

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matthewd

18 years ago

I made one Hub and it got flagged.

I had an article on there and a link back to my website. It was not even a selling article, it was completely informative... I was using my site to do the selling.

Anyway, it's a lame rule and I see no point in having one.

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mikecowles 18 years ago

A couple of things to make google happy and not hurt your pages.

1. have external links. (like a privacy policy that opens on that page in a pop up window)
2. have images. (you can also use a pop up to keep them on that page)
3. have relevant content. (this is really google's main concern with all pages).

Hope that helps!

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Devan Koshal 18 years ago

I think you can have one link on a hubpage.

the main reason is its a high authority backlink + hub pages generate some traffic.
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- thecableguy 18 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Devan Koshal
  
  I think you can have one link on a hubpage.
  
  Sounds familiar. I had more than one link several times and got flagged, but when it was reduced to one I never got flagged for being over promotional.
  
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Kurt

18 years ago

Another thing to consider is that Hubpages lets you share in revenue, unlike the article directories, so there's less need to have clickthroughs to generate some revenue.

Hubpages isn't optimal, but it's defintely a valuable tool in setting up resource and linking networks.

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flnz400

18 years ago

I think Hubpages sucks and had the same thing happen to me repeatedly. They didn't like my links apparent;y, all two of them!

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Michael Lee

18 years ago

As far as I know, you could post as many links as you like - as long as you're not including more than 2 links to any one domain.

To not get flagged, include non-self-serving, value-packed but non-competing links, like those from Wikipedia.

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Lee

To not get flagged, include non-self-serving, value-packed but non-competing links, like those from Wikipedia.

Cheers,
Michael

Okay, great. And how does that help me one bit?

Look, I'm all for putting up relevant, unique and useful content, but if I
create these incredible hub pages loaded with fantastic advice and tips, all
unique, and can only link to sites that don't do a thing to help me make
sales, how does this help anybody but Google?

Sorry, but I don't see why anybody would build up Google's content
when they receive literally nothing in return.

And please don't tell me Adsense income because that's just not worth
putting in hours and hours of work into creating a hub presence on the
web.

So far, nobody has shown me clearly why anybody in their right mind
would do this unless they are simply not into marketing and just want
to share what they know with the world.

If I'm missing something, please fill me in, but I still don't get it.

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Glenn Newsome

18 years ago

Steven,
Hub pages help a lot with getting your keyword (s) on the front page of google easily. Yes, they are worth the build I think. Also, the amount of links can be more than one.
There is traffic there.
I use this example when I explain here a couple of times now. Usually when someone ask how to get on that first page of google. Search the term "paid article marketing" . I am #1 and #2 in google. ( dang, someone has been doing some work- I usually hold at least 5 spots on 1st page--now only 2 and the other have dropped away--but it has been over a year since I did anything to it).
My hub page Paid Article Marketing is in the #2 spot.
Now, that is nice. But what is more revelent, is that the hub page usually helps me hold 7,8 or more spots on google on that 1st page. I link to my squidoo page, and several more as you will see. If you notice the links on the hub page, I built one hub page, a squidoo page, googlepage, blogspot, etc. I also submitted an article at ezinearticles.
To place that many links--use several articles---I used a total of 5 or 10 =-cant remember---one article or so for each page built above--then link to them all in hub--all in squidoo--etc. etc. etc.
Hope that helps a bit.
My explaination may be hard to follow--but I think you will see what I am trying to say I think--LOL
Glenn
Edit: I would imagine they would do much better if you posted to them every once in a while instead of building and never going back to them much like me--LOL

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenn Newsome

Steven,
Hub pages help a lot with getting your keyword (s) on the front page of google easily. Yes, they are worth the build I think. Also, the amount of links can be more than one.
There is traffic there.
I use this example when I explain here a couple of times now. Usually when someone ask how to get on that first page of google. Search the term "paid article marketing" . I am #1 and #2 in google. ( dang, someone has been doing some work- I usually hold at least 5 spots on 1st page--now only 2 and the other have dropped away--but it has been over a year since I did anything to it).
My hub page Paid Article Marketing is in the #2 spot.
Now, that is nice. But what is more revelent, is that the hub page usually helps me hold 7,8 or more spots on google on that 1st page. I link to my squidoo page, and several more as you will see. If you notice the links on the hub page, I built one hub page, a squidoo page, googlepage, blogspot, etc. I also submitted an article at ezinearticles.
To place that many links--use several articles---I used a total of 5 or 10 =-cant remember---one article or so for each page built above--then link to them all in hub--all in squidoo--etc. etc. etc.
Hope that helps a bit.
My explaination may be hard to follow--but I think you will see what I am trying to say I think--LOL
Glenn

Glenn, I understand what you're saying and was going to do something
very similar to this, but from reading their TOS, it appears, at least to me,
that what you are doing is against their TOS.

Again, unless I am misunderstanding what I am reading. They say NO self
serving links. Well aren't all those links you mentioned self serving links?

Sorry, still confused.

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cclou 18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Again, unless I am misunderstanding what I am reading. They say NO self
serving links. Well aren't all those links you mentioned self serving links?

I don't see a single rule that says no self serving links. It says "promotional links can only be included on content that is exclusive to HubPages." It also says, "Purely promotional offers and Hubs designed only to promote other sites or businesses are not allowed." (emphasis mine). So you have to offer unique and good content for your link to stay. Some niches are probably more likely to be flagged than others. I sent you a pm with a link to my one hubpage article. It's been up for about a year and has had around 5,000 views (I haven't linked to it or done any promotion to it). It has never been flagged.
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Michael Lee

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Look, I'm all for putting up relevant, unique and useful content, but if I
create these incredible hub pages loaded with fantastic advice and tips, all
unique, and can only link to sites that don't do a thing to help me make
sales, how does this help anybody but Google?

Hi Steven,

You're not linking only to sites that won't make you sales. What I mean is you also add non-self-serving sites on top of self-serving sites.

Here's a sample of one of my hubpages:
Teach Yourself Body Language: Understanding Body Language Signs

Advantages:
1) I get to post keyword-rich backlinks (and ad) to my sites.
2) I get to share in the adsense earnings.
3) That hubpage is in the first page for my chosen keywords.

It's like article marketing. Might even be better because you can put your ads on top (not below in the resource box) and you get to share in the adsense earnings.

Michael

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Kurt

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Okay, great. And how does that help me one bit?

Look, I'm all for putting up relevant, unique and useful content, but if I
create these incredible hub pages loaded with fantastic advice and tips, all
unique, and can only link to sites that don't do a thing to help me make
sales, how does this help anybody but Google?

Sorry, but I don't see why anybody would build up Google's content
when they receive literally nothing in return.

And please don't tell me Adsense income because that's just not worth
putting in hours and hours of work into creating a hub presence on the
web.

So far, nobody has shown me clearly why anybody in their right mind
would do this unless they are simply not into marketing and just want
to share what they know with the world.

If I'm missing something, please fill me in, but I still don't get it.

Steven,

As I posted above, Hubpages is very useful for creating networks.

Let's say you spend all day setting up social bookmarking accounts. If all you do is bookmark your own pages, you'll likely be flagged as a spammer. Instead, bookmark your hubs, lenses, etc. It doesn't take any longer to add a Hubpages bookmark, once you're already set up all those accounts, so you may as well get maximum value for your effort.

Hubpages also gives you access to yet another RSS pheed, which can be submitted to all the various dirctories and promoted and exploited in all the various ways RSS can be...All while using another, unique domain/IP.

Now, use this network to pass link juice from your Hubs to pages you want...Leveraging the authority of Hubpages.com to potentially gain yet another top 10 spot in the SERPs.

...All while creating a bit of income from Adsense/Amazon, which is a side-benefit of the process, not the goal.

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Louis Raven

18 years ago

I don't get it, Many varied replies here. Can I link to a website from my hubpage without google dropping my hub?

Why is it OK to link to Wiki or articles but not my own blog? Who decides what's relevant lol?

Louis

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Art Turner

18 years ago

I've never had Hub pages deleted.

And what does Hubpages have to do with Google?

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motivated

18 years ago

I use hubpages for search engine traffic. In the past I've linked the hubpage to a squidoo lens (not the website I want to promote). The squidoo lens then has links with my keywords and website on it.

This method has been incrediably useful in getting to the first page of Google in the past and lots of free traffic for my keyword.

Chrissie

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danaprince

18 years ago

I wonder if using relevant rss feeds isn't considered as bad as putting in self-serving links. Does it still result in the same effect for SEO as putting a link in there the regular way?

I haven't had any deleted on me and have started putting more rss feeds and link lists instead of putting links into the hub body.