Hi Cyber:

How is Article Demon working for you? Is it a new program and did it cost alot? I haven't heard of it before and would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks so much!

It is one article spun 100 times. And testing it the spun articles are 60% - 80% unique. I had a article written around 1000 words and spun with the best spinner and each spin the article ranges from 400 - 800 words so they are not close to being duplicated.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the point of submitting articles to get links back to your site? Which in turns helps your site rank higher in the SERP. And if you are posting good articles which make sense and your site is offering a good service or product instead of just spamming what is wrong with it?

you my friend hit the nail on the head there.

The difference between having a good article....and a bad one is oh..... no sales, and lots of sales.

Trust my it is that cut throat in article marketing these days.

You have to be the cream of the crop to get people clicking those damn links...so make sure it is good, and no spammy as above!!!

I agree.

Hey guys, you really dont need those expensive article submission programs. Joshua is right.

If you submit 1 or 2 high quality articles, that a lot better than automatically sending 50 or so articles with little or no quality at all.

Think about it. What do you want your viewers to see? Junk? or professional work?

ABC, you have done it. :p
A = Accurate
B = Brevity
C = Clarity

Nicely said, Joshua.

Enough garbage as it is.

To the original poster, I don't think your submitting 100 articles a day is going to help you in anything.

Have you heard about the little Google updates by the way?

Have you heard about the term 'viral marketing'?

Have you heard how article directory marketing is essentially dead?

(Even guest blogging is also on its way down.)

Still, I would say that you go ahead and create a bunch of really QUALITY content on your site and reach to your audiences across the web, in all forms, shape and sizes.

You will benefit from that.

Wow what a hornets nest this has become. Where did you get the idea of crappy articles? I can see your point that some people will do that and spam like crazy to see what will stick. That is not me and whatever gave you that thought? Using software to make your life better is a great thing. The articles have good value and are written well. If you do more in your spinning than just spinning at word level such as sentence and paragraph level you can have an article which reads well and has value.

So with said it is okay for me to have 20 plus articles written manually on a topic and each one reads different and submit each one to a different article directory. But it is not okay to create one article, spin it well with at least 60% - 80% uniqueness, produce 20 plus spun articles and submit each one to a different directory. I do not see what is wrong with the 2nd option.

I'm not talking about submitting the same article to 1000's of websites but to 50 - 100 of them. I mentioned 150 - 250 per day because that is the total with all my article on different topics and different sites. So I may have 5 -10 different article topics going to different websites.

Hi! Yes, I have sat down and read 30 or 50 versions of a freshly written then manually rewritten article many times while testing a content spinner and submitter I programmed myself, for our clients. I'm sure everyone knows different people have different things to say about various strategies since they get different results from their different tests using different tools in different scenarios. What I'll do now is share what I've encountered with my own strategies, tools, tests and results in varying scenarios relevant to what's discussed in this thread. I'm not saying anyone here should do this (I'd most likely harm someone's business if I tell anyone that this is an end-all-be-all solution without studying necessary things about the person's business), 'cause I'm just contributing my relevant experience, tests, results, ideas and inferences about such topics.

Found out that if an article is "well researched and professionally written", then manually rewritten versions of it, especially if slightly different writing tone/style is injected as well as different relevant points not covered by the original version are added to the rewritten versions, then the rewritten versions will also be "very well researched and professionally written" articles, catering to different groups included in the author's collective target audience.

So, if you rewrite an article this way 10 times, you get 11 "high quality" articles. You can then publish your "high quality" article's original version on your site, under your author name, and submit it to EZA or the top 3 article directories or the top 5 or 10 or or or, under your author name.

You can then human spin your 10 rewritten articles. If for instance the spinner functionality you programmed uses [,] and |s, you can then place each title between { and }s then separate each one with |s. Afterwards, you can place each paragraph version between [ and ]s separated by a |s. Then, you can enclose at least one section of each title inside the [ and ]s, rewrite it at least 3 times and enclose those rewritten sections inside [ and ]s. At this point, you can rewrite each sentence of each paragraph version at least 3 times and enclose those versions inside [ and ]s. Then, you can rewrite at least 2 sections of each sentence version at least twice and enclose it with [ and ]s. Always separating different versions between [ and ]s with |s, of course, and keeping in mind to use your 3 different target keywords (main keyword and 2 related keywords) as well as your 3 different LSI keywords interchangeably when manually rewriting the content. You can then manually rewrite your "very well written" action paragraph, your resource box, 9 times and keep in mind to interchange your main and related keywords as the links of your different URLs, then manually rewrite it the way you rewrote the title, its different sections, sentences and its sections. At this point, you just write down your main and 2 related keywords as your target keywords. Then, your software should just choose different title section, title, sentence section, sentence and paragraph versions, no automatic replacement of words and phrases from word and phrase thesaurus database. If you rewrote each title section, title, sentence section, sentence and paragraph versions how it actually means though in different tone/style and delivery, your software then finalizes its combination work and gives you a lot of "high quality" articles. If your software can then choose the most unique and readable versions using built-in uniqueness and readability checking applets (an improved uniqueness checking applet of Copyscape and an improved readability checking applet of MS Word's, for instance), you get 30 to 50 "high quality" articles.

If your software can then schedule the submission of each version (out of 30 versions for instance)after every 30 minutes to say the top 20 article directories using an author account under each directory with the same author name then just email the HTML response of each article directory upon submission completion (no 2 or more versions will be submitted to 2 or more directories using an author account with the same author name, completing one version to all 20 directories first before moving on to the next version using a different author account with a different author name), then Google will most likely think the author is syndicating his article, publishing it on different online places under his author name when they see those links (considering directories publish approved content after different intervals), while the article directories will think different authors of the same company are publishing their articles (since links point to the same website, but if they point to other websites, then article directories will think different authors of different companies are publishing their content). So, 1 version x 1 author account x 20 article directories = 20 published pages x 30 versions using 30 author accounts (1 author account per version) = 600 published pages x 2 backlinks (1 version = 2 backlinks) = 1200 backlinks, built in 3000 hours or less than 4.2 months (30 minutes x 20 submissions per version = 600 minutes x 30 versions = 18000 minutes).

If it takes you 3 hours to extensively research, professionally write, carefully proofread and publish on your site a "high quality" article covering topics you have expertise in then manually submit it to EZA or the top 3 article directories or the top 5 or the top 10 or so on, and if it takes you another 2 hours to manually rewrite it 10 times and 2 hours more to human spin it the way described above then less than 5 minutes to use your software, you spend 7 hours per day working to get an output described above, "high quality" article directory pages and backlinks submitted for you in 4, 8, 12, 16 20 months or so. Some of your published article's original version and rewritten versions can get a lot of views as mentioned in this thread, while some a bit lower, though some quite low, and the backlinks would be there since you're submitting to the top 20 article directories . The task now would be to find a professional writer with the same expertise in your target topics as you so you can hire this person to do this for you. Other content marketing strategies are different topics, so I won't go into those here. You may find a few points mentioned here helpful, others without utility, some could be improved or modified, though you won't most likely know until you study results from your relevant tests.

"Duplicate content" refers exclusively (or should do) to multiple instances of the same content/articles published across different pages on a single site.

The same content published on multiple sites is "syndicated content".

That's a better way to look at it, anyway, because of all the hysteria and terror that surrounds "duplicate content penalties". It's really not an issue if you're syndicating your content across other sites.

Yes. In the situations I've encountered, especially currently, auto logins on GoArticles cannot be done anymore. They have implemented code which adds a random check number that is Javascript generated each time a user logs into their article directory. Since I do not know a way to scrape Javascript-generated text as of the moment, I'll continue looking for solutions to go around this. This also produces an inference: If GoArticles can do this, then why haven't the other article directories implemented the same code? A possible answer could be: Most article directories wouldn't want to lose the content constantly submitted by lots of authors using article submitter software. More content under more niches and categories for them = More published pages with ads under more niches and categories = More viewers from organic search traffic = More possible ad clicks and impressions.

I think that would be to contribute content with high relevance, timeliness, popularity and usefulness for the intended audience around more online places heavily trafficked by the target audience and also gain wider business/brand name/link exposure, a more established business/brand name reputation and higher search engine rankings in the process.

Yes. I think that would involve content with high relevance, timeliness, popularity and usefulness for the intended audience contributed to reputable online places with relevant content heavily trafficked by the intended audience. If I were in the top result on Google for my target keywords, then I must provide content with high relevance, timeliness, popularity and usefulness for my intended audience. For search results 2 to 9 or 20 or so, I can find out if I can contribute content with high relevance, timeliness, popularity and usefulness on those page results, exposing my business/brand name or links pointing to my pages which further contribute supplementary content offering unique benefits to my intended audience. By "unique", it should be benefits that are not provided by that page result and my contributed content there.

I think if Google places hover ads on links of content publishers implementing content marketing campaigns, this can possibly happen: Google could lose a large percentage of their business to another search engine company offering search advertising. I also think the number of links and the "quality" of the page with those links are used by search engines to determine the popularity of the linked pages. I think they do this because "popularity" can also be a factor which can point out the "usefulness" or "quality" of the linked pages. Search engine companies can define their own set of parameters for "quality", yes, but I do not think that can be implemented in a mathematical set of instructions for automating a process that is universally and statistically accurate in weighing "relevance", "timeliness", "popularity" and "usefulness" (with all 4 factors possibly pointing to "level of quality"). I think "relevance" is onsite and onpage content relevance and SEO (how can the algorithm better crawl, index and rank the content of the site and the page), "timeliness" is new relevant content additions (new relevant content = webmaster and target audience regularly updates site and pages with relevant content), "popularity" is number of links on high authority, high credibility sites and pages offering relevant content for a long time, and "usefulness" is a combination of those 3 factors. If their own formulated sets of mathematical instructions follow this, I think this will be the closest they could get in an automated process following a mathematical set of instructions which gives them a way to attain their most likely goal of providing the most relevant, most timely, most popular and most useful content to their users. Of course, I also think they need to constantly monitor and improve this mathematical set of instructions for it to constantly evolve and keep at pace with the rapidly changing Internet, technology and relevant activities of people around the world on the Internet and for using new technology.

I think it is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS to drip feed articles and here's why: if you submitted them all at once to each article directory, they all get submitted to the directories at once but they don't all get APPROVED at once! If you're worried about getting too many backlinks all of a sudden, it takes some article reviewers longer to review articles than others. So it's absolutely pointless to drip feed articles because they will drip feed them for you by not accepting them all at the same time.

I'm sure many do.

Some of the people spinning their articles would - and do - contend, though, that they're not designed for people to read in the first place; only for search engines, because of the backlink-value ... but these are typically people who imagine that the backlink attached to a spun article is somehow, mysteriously, different from the backlink attached to a syndicated article, so you can't always "reason" with them too easily!

It is apparent this is a very touchy topic. From 11/19/10 to 11/30/10 I submitted a very good spun article to 425 directories total averaging 38 per day for this topic. 185 accepted the article and 141 were live on the site when I check on 11/30/10.

I did not submit the original or any spun article to any of the top article directories.

Just checked this e commerce site and traffic has increased by almost 30 visitors per day from the search engines since I started it. Plus he has received 3 sales in the last week. So this is telling me it is working.

The next step now is to create 5 original articles on the topic, submit to 5 of the top directories and see what happens in the next 2 weeks.

You can submit 10-20 articles if you are a full time article writer.

Rather than submitting to many directories, submit Ezinearticles.com or Goarticles.com which gives targeted traffic.

Since I don't do much article marketing per se I can't really answer your question. But you mentioned that you had a 1000 word article of high quality. You could expand your backlink base by just repurposing that same article. Turn it into a pdf, a podcast, a tutorial, slide show, video etc. and submit to corresponding sites. Combine that with some forum and blog posting with anchor text backlinks to that article on your site and you might find you get more link juice than just banging on article directories.

Good luck,
Brian

Just make sure you spin by sentences 5-10 times each and you will never had a problem. Keep your article keyword focused. Submit to the top 10 article directories.

Really? You can write 50 articles of original content each day?

Again - can you really write 50 articles per day that someone would actually want to read?

Finally a voice of reason...

Hopefully this kind of wisdom and common sense will begin to prevail.

It's been said 100 times already, but I thought I'd give my two cents. There is such an enormous amount of garbage floating around these days online that those who take the time to create fantastic content will ultimately become the most successful. Taking shortcuts like using article-spinning is not original content and therefore is not going to produce like original content would. You can create a million garbage backlinks and they aren't going to help you like 100 quality backlinks would.

I've written many quality articles that have been picked up by quality blogs and these have given me lots of power on Google that I would not have gotten had I spun a bunch of articles.

That's my experience... quality content is king!

Great observation there. Manually spinning stuff will typically yield good results if you're a decent writer with good command of the English language, as you'll know how words 'flow' together, and instinctively know what sounds awkward and what doesn't (unlike article spinner software). Of course, you'd reserve your highest quality "unspun" articles for the top article directories and use the "spun" ones for distribution to the less important/smaller ones, which is a completely logical and effective way of approaching this.

Paul

I love spiners! Especially Brent Spiner. He was awesome as Data on Star Trek TNG. Plus, he got to bone Denise Crosby. She's, like, hot. And stuff.

Seriously, I don't hate spinners-the-scripts.

I hate spinners-the-marketers.

The people who take those scripts, buy a bunch of cheap articles, and then produce a massive quantity of absolute garbage that they spew all over the net like a vomiting moose hanging from the back of a low-flying Cessna.

And now, whatever keyword they were targeting, they temporarily flood with their puked-up unreadable crap. So for some period of time, all I can find about this or that keyword is a bunch of the same spun article.

So if I'm looking for actual information, I can't find it.

And if I'm doing keyword research, this completely screws up my competition analysis.

I don't have any objection to the spinner script itself, or to the spun article. Both of these can be done very, very well. But no matter how good your spinner script is, a moron can always pick it up and generate a flood of worthless bile that gets all over everything. Because, like all tools, a spinner script is only as good as the person using it.