Is It Me Or Does FireFox Just Suck

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Man I am so tired of the crashes and the slow speed any recommendations to another internet marketer friendly browser? I am looking to my fellow warriors for answers.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Firefox doesn't like me, either. It does things to me that never happen to anyone else. Similarly, whenever I try to use a Mac or desktop Linux, I get mysterious crashes and errors that don't happen to other people.

    Meanwhile, I occasionally run across someone who has similar problems with IE or with Windows, and that never happens to me.

    I honestly believe that there are certain types of people in the world that specific software programs don't like, and those programs misbehave whenever those people try to use them.

    So I'd suggest maybe you're just not a Firefox person. Maybe try Chrome, or Opera, or even IE. I know nobody likes IE, but it's been good to me over the years. I've also never had a problem with Opera. Chrome misbehaves here and there for me, but it's not terrible.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    That happens to you too? I thought it was just me!

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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    Firefox has some great add-ons, but man is it a pain in the ass at times. For general surfing I'm quickly becoming a Chrome fan.

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    chrome

    most extensions are there already
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  • Profile picture of the author Hoodyy
    I used to be a Firefox diehard.

    But I decided to look at chrome to see what the fuss is about and I've been converted!

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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    About the only thing I've been using Firefox for is managing my files on S3. I just found a Chrome extension that does the same thing. Buh-bye Firefox.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dylan K
    I use chrome, if your running anything else it may not load pages though.

    As far as internet marketing goes its not great as there arent as many plugins but it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
    Love FireFox, don't have any issues. I have Chrome, like it, but don't do much work through it.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattbaehr
      Originally Posted by TheGrooby View Post

      Love FireFox, don't have any issues. I have Chrome, like it, but don't do much work through it.
      Ditto for me. I generally don't have any issues with FF. I use Chrome some, but mostly FF. I can't stand IE at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author kimberly Aita
        Ditto I feel exactly the same way... IE takes forever to load the start page, I love my firefox... haven't really used chrome but will have to check it out

        Originally Posted by mattbaehr View Post

        Ditto for me. I generally don't have any issues with FF. I use Chrome some, but mostly FF. I can't stand IE at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author invitetheweb
    I use firefox. yes it crashes once or twice a week but it has a nice recovery system and never lets me down otherwise. usually when it crashes I am running 6 other programs including but not limited to WoW, photoshop, Firebird, Kaspersky, trillian, skype and more. Any I never run any less than 2 browser sessions, one on each monitor.

    I am a diehard FF user and always will be. I've tried Chrome and I'll try it again I'm sure sooner or later. I'd just rather not support google's "late to the party and gonna steal your thunder" type attitude. Not gonna happen. And Lary Page will continue to be pissed off at Mark Zuckerburg because he cant put together a social network that people enjoy. He's tried and failed.

    Sorry, I have seen a recent video with Lary drilling Zuckerburg about Facebook and he just seems like a jealous *******. This went way off topic but it ties into why i wont use most of googles tools whether they run the PR or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    It seems with every upgrade to Firefox it gets worse and worse. Videos tend to crash it for me, not only the browser, but it shuts my whole computer down. That never happens with IE. I've got other reasons I dislike IE, mainly because it mishandles CSS so much. I'm going to be trying Chrome myself as I've heard a lot of good things about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author donhx
      I'm a heavy FF user. I use lots of plug-ins. Maybe it has crashed a couple times in a couple years, definitely not enough for me to think about.

      My guess that if you are having lots of crashes it is related to other system settings on your computer. It would be worth tracing the problem.

      Chrome has lots of potential, it's just not a mature product yet. I'd say that in two years it will have the functionality and 3rd party support to make it the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Chrome or IE, FF is sucking a big fat dookie lately.
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Certain plugins, including some popular ones for SEO and marketing purposes, will slow down Firefox. Get rid of them or only run them when you need them.

    Next, Firefox uses a SQLite database to store browsing history and such. This database can create a significant slowdown when it gets full. Therefore, old data needs to be purged (aka vacuumed) every so often and there are settings you can use to limit the size of this data.

    And, Firefox uses what's called a 'plugin container'. The idea was to isolate badly behaving plugins from the program to prevent crashes and performance problems. Unfortunately, this hasn't been too successful. Therefore, you should try turning this feature off to see if things improve.

    As for Chrome, I'd prefer to avoid the 'free' Google ice cream...

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    • Profile picture of the author brandonbaker
      I never thought I'd hear "Firefox" and "suck" in the same sentence. IE, fine. But Firefox? Really?

      Works like a charm for me. Would never switch to anything else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

      Certain plugins, including some popular ones for SEO and marketing purposes, will slow down Firefox. Get rid of them or only run them when you need them.
      Care to name them? Slow isn't really my problem, but I thought it might help others.

      Next, Firefox uses a SQLite database to store browsing history and such. This database can create a significant slowdown when it gets full. Therefore, old data needs to be purged (aka vacuumed) every so often and there are settings you can use to limit the size of this data.
      My history is deleted every day. Seems to have no connection to crashes, for me anyway. Seems to be a memory problem to me, though I'm not a technician by any stretch.

      As for Chrome, I'd prefer to avoid the 'free' Google ice cream...
      That's exactly why I haven't tried Chrome yet. Running out of options though. Most everything else is just a clone of IE or Mozilla.
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      • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Care to name them? Slow isn't really my problem, but I thought it might help others.
        SEOQuake can create slowdowns as well as temporary bans from search engines. There are some settings you can use to limit these problems. Some other similar plugins (I don't recall names right off) I've tried haven't been as adjustable and had more performance issues.

        Of course, there are the usual assortment of toolbars and other stuff that can cause flaky behavior so plugins are the first place to look for potential problems.

        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        My history is deleted every day. Seems to have no connection to crashes, for me anyway. Seems to be a memory problem to me, though I'm not a technician by any stretch.
        A regular history delete doesn't purge these tables, it only deletes the record, leaving a blank space where the data once was. In fact, regular deletes may actually fragment the database more and cause performance problems since FF, by itself, doesn't compress the database. There are several plugins available that will do this compression for you.

        I was getting quite frustrated with FF myself until I discovered that the SQLite database it uses needed to be purged and compressed regularly and the plugin container turned off.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    FF blows lately. Crashes at least 1-2x/day.

    Several months ago, I stopped being able to edit theme code in Wordpress dashboards (ONLY in Firefox). It was grayed out. I have to use Chrome for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author biosclan
    Most of the problems with firefox results from other crap on the persons pc, most pcs have some type of messed up virus/malware/adware/f'd up registry on them, or just simply need to be defragged.

    I'm not a firefox fanboy or anything its just i've fixed a ton of pcs and they all were a mess. I personally think its a memory hog that has a leak that can't ever be fixed. But its the best out there by far.
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    • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
      FF users, I think you may have missed one of the critical statements bgmacaw shared.

      Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

      And, Firefox uses what's called a 'plugin container'. The idea was to isolate badly behaving plugins from the program to prevent crashes and performance problems. Unfortunately, this hasn't been too successful. Therefore, you should try turning this feature off to see if things improve.
      Personally, I keep the FF plugins to the minimum essential and have never had any issues with FF. But the day they forced the plugin-container.exe file upon us, all hell broke loose on all of my computers.

      My solution was found here: Permanently Disable Firefox Plugin Container.exe Process

      Check your Task Manager and see if the file is running and the type of resources it is using, as bgmacaw pointed out, turn this feature off and test your system; that is in all probability, the root cause of your issue.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

        I was getting quite frustrated with FF myself until I discovered that the SQLite database it uses needed to be purged and compressed regularly and the plugin container turned off.
        How does one do that? Maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything in the Options for purge and compress the database.

        Originally Posted by Crew Chief View Post

        Personally, I keep the FF plugins to the minimum essential and have never had any issues with FF. My solution was found here: Permanently Disable Firefox Plugin Container.exe Process

        Check your Task Manager and see if the file is running and the type of resources it is using, as bgmacaw pointed out, turn this feature off and test your system; that is in all probability, the root cause of your issue.
        I just have three plugins. S3Fox, Screengrab, and Swoosty. That file is running, and using about 17k in memory. That doesn't seem like much. If I use the Task Manager to end the process for it, will the plugins stop working?
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      • Profile picture of the author Diane S
        Originally Posted by Crew Chief View Post

        My solution was found here: Permanently Disable Firefox Plugin Container.exe Process

        Check your Task Manager and see if the file is running and the type of resources it is using, as bgmacaw pointed out, turn this feature off and test your system; that is in all probability, the root cause of your issue.

        Giles, the Crew Chief
        Worked for me, thanks to bgmacaw and the resource shown here by Crew Chief!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    I use Firefox and haven't had any issues with it at all, I definitely prefer it over IE, but I haven't used Chrome so can't compare it with that, but I don't think I will since I like Firefox!
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    I used to love FF but I almost never use it anymore except to check web stats. I kept getting horrible malware and virus problems no matter what I used to stop them. I went back to IE and I have never had a virus or malware problem since. When I had switched to FF the first time it was because IE would crash on me almost every day. Now that I switched back it is working flawlessly for many months. I think Windows 7 and the latest IE are a great combo for me anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sardent
    Yep. Me too. I wish I knew what the problem was.
    Firefox seems to become more buggy with every passing day.
    My browser crashes 1-5 times a day and I'm really getting tired of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author FriendlyRob
      Firefox seems to think that I am not connected to the internet when I most certainly am. As a result I am often unable to bring up the page I want. I am experimenting with Chrome now to see if it is more reliable.
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  • Profile picture of the author redcell1
    I admit FF is always first but with the latest memory leaks its just bad now

    I actually just started using chrome and I have to say its great.

    So now I go between the 2 and I some how manage to live.
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    • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
      I was thinking I was the only one with issues. I always get frustrated when Firefox crashes which happens several times a day. So my stress levels are high, very high. :p

      Sometimes I feel like throwing my pc out of the window. Don't know why I'm still using Firefox.

      Plus the Warriorforum doesn't function properly with Firefox. So I just use Internet Explorer to get on WF. I always switch between 2 browsers but mainly use Firefox for other purposes, despite of its crashes.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
    I'm amazed by all of these responses. My FF runs like a champ. Are you all installing a bunch of garbage plug-ins? I have only a few plug-ins and have zero issues with crashes. Not sure why you're all having problems, but it could be the Indian, not the arrow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Use Firefox. Love Firefox. For a while, I used Chrome and really liked it. But there weren't so many extensions then, so I switched back...

    I might convert again, if the RockMelt thing stops crashing every now and then.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
    Originally Posted by steveshoemaker View Post

    Man I am so tired of the crashes and the slow speed any recommendations to another internet marketer friendly browser? I am looking to my fellow warriors for answers.

    Please please stay with firefox the grass might be greener on the other side

    Firefox was doing great for me just a week before i started to test chrome. it might be slightly faster than the fox but stability and performance wise firefox is best IMO

    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    Firefox crashes on my completely randomly about 2-3 times per day. It only started doing this within the past few months, and although I'm skilled with computers, I can't for the life of me figure out why it's crashing. I lost half of a Wordpress post earlier and I could have screamed. I refuse to use IE/Chrome/Opera, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author mark587905
    Ive not had problems with Firefox. Running Win XP is this a Mac problem?
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  • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
    I think it is just you. I have FF and it works like a charm. Can't wait for FF4 gonna be super duper. Why don't you try chrome or Safari?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by gskesavan View Post

      I think it is just you. I have FF and it works like a charm. Can't wait for FF4 gonna be super duper. Why don't you try chrome or Safari?
      Did you read the thread? Several people have the same problem, it's not just the OP.
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      • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Did you read the thread? Several people have the same problem, it's not just the OP.
        Yep, but I just answered his question lol I know many people experience it on a windows system. Fortunately, I'm on Linux Ubuntu.
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        • Profile picture of the author scott g
          I don't have too many issues with Firefox... I love Love LOVE the plugins! If Chrome has plugins similar to SEOQuake, NoFollow/DoFollow, and Rank Checker I'm down to switch! But I haven't done any research on Chrome.

          P.s. Has anyone been experiencing problems with SEOBook's Rank Checker plugin!?!?

          Thanks & CHEERS!
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        • Profile picture of the author noangel
          Firefox is good, but a bit of a resource hog.
          So I tried Google Chrome and loved it.

          Yesterday I got some virus in my computer
          and Google Chrome would not load any pages
          as a result.

          Even though I have cleaned the computer and
          uninstalled and re-installed Google Chrome, I
          am still not having luck getting it to work.

          Don't know what else to do...
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  • Profile picture of the author IMoptimizer
    Firefox is too crowded. Add-ons take up too much space, that's why it's usually slow. Google Chrome is really sleek and fast. You should look into it.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
      Originally Posted by IMoptimizer View Post

      Firefox is too crowded. Add-ons take up too much space, that's why it's usually slow. Google Chrome is really sleek and fast. You should look into it.
      My FF isn't crowded at all. 3 or so plug-ins and maximum browser window space. Just got to find a good theme with smaller, sleeker buttons.

      When Chrome decides to save sessions I will begin using it more frequently. I run 6 or 7 FF browsers with 7 - 10 tabs a piece. I looooove the FF save session feature.
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      • Profile picture of the author noangel
        @TheGrooby...

        Google Chrome does save your session, that's one of the things I loved about it.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
          Originally Posted by noangel View Post

          @TheGrooby...

          Google Chrome does save your session, that's one of the things I loved about it.
          Perhaps I need to upgrade as my current Chrome browser doesn't seem to offer that function.
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          • Profile picture of the author noangel
            @Scott G: Thanks so much for that. It helped a lot and resulted in a much easier reboot...
            but still no Google Chrome :-(

            @TheGroby: Update GC and give it another try. It's great and I miss it!

            Kind Regards,
            Angela
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            • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
              I upgraded Chrome and still don't see any save session feature. What am I missing? I searched Google and didn't see anything about Chrome being able to save your session except some plug-ins that would save your session.

              Originally Posted by noangel View Post

              @Scott G: Thanks so much for that. It helped a lot and resulted in a much easier reboot...
              but still no Google Chrome :-(

              @TheGroby: Update GC and give it another try. It's great and I miss it!

              Kind Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author theoneinventor
    Another thing,

    On my system, I have observed Firefox to be very susceptible to what appears to be memory leak. By memory leak I am referring to;

    "Essentially, the program fails to release memory that in no longer being used back into the pool of available memory. The result is that the used memory is not cleared for use by other computer programs, and thus diminishes the operating capacity of the computer."

    Try this experiment.
    1. Make sure all instances of FF are closed. Then open FF with webpages open in 5 tabs and check the amount of memory that is being used. You can check memory usage in Windows by opening up the task manager(ctr+alt+del) and looking under the performance section.

    2. Browse for a couple hours, open more tabs, close some tabs, just do your thing and after some hours of browsing end up with only 5 tabs open again (could be the same 5 tabs if you want to be more scientific)

    Whenever I did this I noticed that after browsing for a while the amount of memory used by Firefox would increase dramatically even after I would close most of the windows/tabs. The fix? Completely close out the program every once in a while.

    Chrome seems to have much less of a problem with this.

    Hope this helps someone.
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    • Profile picture of the author scott g
      Originally Posted by noangel View Post

      Firefox is good, but a bit of a resource hog.
      So I tried Google Chrome and loved it.

      Yesterday I got some virus in my computer
      and Google Chrome would not load any pages
      as a result.

      Even though I have cleaned the computer and
      uninstalled and re-installed Google Chrome, I
      am still not having luck getting it to work.

      Don't know what else to do...
      noangel: It's possible you have the stupid Rootkit virus. I did and it would allow me to search in IE and FF, but whenever I clicked on a link it would immediately redirect ALL of my clicks on the search results to spam sh*t.

      Fsecure, Norton, Mcaffee, Malwarebytes - Not a single one of them could solve the "Malware/Adware" problem. THIS teeny tiny one click tool from Kaspersky did.

      How to remove malware belonging to the family Rootkit.Win32.TDSS (aka Tidserv, TDSServ, Alureon)?

      Since you're using a Google browser and the Rootkit.TDSS effects Google.... This may be your ticket. Download it and try it. It is very fast (maybe 5 minute scan time) and solves the problem!!! (or did for me anyway)

      Let me know if you try it and the outcome. PM me of just post... I'm just curious b/c I've been getting mixed responses.

      P.S. Downloaded from this exact site and ran this exact program and it fixed my problem, so it is not a virus. Just to put your mind at ease.

      CHEERS!

      Originally Posted by IMoptimizer View Post

      Firefox is too crowded. Add-ons take up too much space, that's why it's usually slow. Google Chrome is really sleek and fast. You should look into it.

      Don't keep 30 plugins ACTIVE. Use 'em when you need 'em. Or you're right... that will eat up CPU and crap down!

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  • Profile picture of the author Virus Chronicler
    Definitely go for Google Chrome. The best IMHO in the market right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
      Never liked Firefox... Never quite understood what all the fuss was about.
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      Google Chrome all the way.
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    • Profile picture of the author trini
      FF rocks mainly because of the awesome plugins- especially the SEO plugins, research plugins.

      IE - SUCKS bigtime as it freezes A Ton!

      Chrome is the big shiny - ok- :p couldn't help myself- new kid on the block-
      but I still luv FF the best.

      Stay Sunny.

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    • Profile picture of the author Big Money
      I've been a major Firefox fan for years, but recently it has been freezing up and crashing a dozen times a day. I don't know if it's the recent updates or what. I'm glad to hear some other people are having these problems. I was seriously starting to think it was my computer.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
        Originally Posted by Ken View Post

        began to act like a handicapped snail.
        On crutches, right?

        Originally Posted by Big Money View Post

        I was seriously starting to think it was my computer.

        It might be a combination that your computer is a part of. I never have a problem with ff but do have 'a beast of a laptop.'
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by moonfish View Post

      I used to love Firefox and used it for years, now I have time to make a cup of tea while it's loading! Not only that it really uses a lot of CPU...
      Read the entire thread for two things that will correct this problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Originally Posted by FriendlyRob View Post

      Firefox seems to think that I am not connected to the internet when I most certainly am. As a result I am often unable to bring up the page I want.
      If it has any problem getting to the internet connection, it will tick the 'work offline' button (under file) all by itself. Just untick it and that's fixed.

      Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post

      Sometimes I feel like throwing my pc out of the window.
      Window, Windows, I wonder if there is a connection. I'm not serious. Out of the 4 machines I've had, the Mac was by far the worst.

      Originally Posted by moonfish View Post

      now I have time to make a cup of tea while it's loading!
      I've researched this thoroughly and pouring a double brandy works better in this situation.

      Actually I don't have problems with ff crashing, or with slow loading, but one problem I run into repeatedly is that it won't let go of its cache. When working on the css (mostly, but sometimes the html too) of a new page, that part has been a complete pain in the neck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hardik Jogi
    May be you should use flock or safari.
    Flock is a dedicated Social Media Browser.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
    ah the old browser opinon war

    I have never used anything but IE and it has never let me down
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    Chrome rules for me - Fast and the best feature is auto spell check.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ntech25
    I have been using firefox for years and its been good for me. I don't have a lot of plugins for it. Just keep it clean and simple. I also use Chrome sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author foxtrot3
    I have zero issues with FF. It runs like a champ. XP home, FF 3.6.12, 15 addons.
    The plugin container is running. I do have Memory Fox installed -
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/53880/
    which, on my computer at least, seems to have solved the memory issues.
    I'm on the web at least 4 hours every day. I can't remember the last time FF crashed.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      I've had no problems with FF or the latest IE (8?).

      My wife's laptop, on the other hand, is a different story.

      She didn't start having problems until we moved her "up" to version 3.x, then it got to be a major PITA. One of the problems is capacity. It's a 6 year old machine, 2 megs RAM, only 40 Meg HD which runs almost full.

      She's basically down to web browsing, and a few related apps like Adobe Reader.

      Even stripped down like that, FF took forever to load and crapped out regularly.

      Dumped FF and put her back on IE, and the problems are mainly gone.

      I haven't tried Chrome since moving to this computer. I'm leery of too many applications from one vendor, especially one with as long a nose as Google. Tried Opera and Safari a bit, but still mainly use FF for the plugins.
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    FF and Intel do not seem to play well together. On an Intel machine, I use IE or SlimBrowser. On an AMD machine, FF works like a charm. Probably other issues, but seem to be moot on an AMD machine by my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    Yes, Firefox has been a nightmare for me lately.

    I use it when I want to run SEOQuake, use either the Google or SEOMoz toolbars, and when I'm tweaking a site layout and need to use Firebug.

    I use IE when I'm adding posts or plugins in Wordpress. It seems to run faster on the backend out of the three major browsers.

    I use a base install of Chrome for general internet browsing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trapped
    I never had problems with FireFox unless it was something related to the computer. However, it happens that on the garbage computer I got it starts to consume too much of memory but never crashes.

    On the other side, i don't use many plugins (perhaps 4), and i don't use seoquake either, instead I use Aaron Wall's seo toolbar (which pretty much has same functions as seoquake with little extras).

    Chrome? Ah gotta love that Google icecream ... Currently I got 7 browsers installed (stop laughing, i need it for work), and I can really say that my preferred one is FireFox, following with IE8 and then Safari, Opera etc.. (yup, Chrome is right before IE6 in my list lol) actually, I like Safari and IE8 pretty much as of lately, really smooth working both.
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  • Profile picture of the author rikkib51
    Hey,

    I have never had any problems with Firefox and been using it for years.

    Try Google Chrome.

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author foxtrot3
    As I mentioned above, FF runs great for me right now, but there have been a few hiccups in the past. Whenever I've had a problem, I've found that 95% of the time it's one of the addons causing it. So... close FF and open it in safe mode, which disables all addons. If things are working OK in safe mode, then one or more of your addons is the culprit.

    Go back to normal FF and disable ALL of your addons, then re-enable them one at a time. When your problem reappears, you've found the malfunctioning addon.

    Very few of the available addons are created by the people at Mozilla. Over the years I've found quite a few of them that were flawed.
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    • Profile picture of the author clint48
      I have enjoyed using FireFox up until this week, but I am not sure it is FireFox yet. I am having all kind of trouble this week staying up. Since this happened all of a sudden I am thinking maybe my modem is getting ready to go out. But FireFox does crash alot, so I saw where someone said there was something about that in this thread so I will try and find that post, but my problem had been the sites just not coming up.

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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Firefox has so many indispensable toolbars and plugins, and while I have started to like Chrome it can actually be a big drain on your computer resources (especially memory) when opening up multiple tabs, i.e. a dozen or more.

    I was about ready to give up on Firefox until Mozilla released version 4.0 Beta 7. While it is still a Beta (non-finalized version) it has dramatically reduced the occurrences of crashing for me, and with its improved crash protection when a tab crashes it does not bring the whole browser down with it, unlike the earlier Firefox browsers. In addition to that, it's much faster and more streamlined than the earlier Firefox 3.X versions!

    I've fallen in love all over again with Firefox 4.0, and I can't wait for the finalized version to be released. Even this Beta release is pretty polished, and I haven't really seen anything untoward happen so far in over 2 weeks of testing this!

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  • Profile picture of the author iamankit
    Chrome crashes too but it doesn't shake too many times like ff.
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  • Profile picture of the author thresanresee45
    About the only matter I've been expending Firefox for is managing my files on S3 I just determined a Chrome extension that does the same matter Buh-bye Firefox.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by thresanresee45 View Post

      About the only matter I've been expending Firefox for is managing my files on S3 I just determined a Chrome extension that does the same matter Buh-bye Firefox.
      You'll be surprised at how much faster and more stable Firefox 4.X is, even in its current beta state.
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    Try to use FireFox 4 beta 7,free from all bugs except one ,i would recommend this.
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    • Profile picture of the author noangel
      @TheGrooby... Chrome saves any pages you open automatically, so if your
      computer crashes, reboots, or you close Google Chrome, when you open it
      again, it will open all the pages that were open before you closed it.

      FF does that too, but IE does not.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheGrooby
        Originally Posted by noangel View Post

        @TheGrooby... Chrome saves any pages you open automatically, so if your
        computer crashes, reboots, or you close Google Chrome, when you open it
        again, it will open all the pages that were open before you closed it.

        FF does that too, but IE does not.

        Hmm. I have the latest version of Chrome and I've opened several tabs and close Chrome down. When I re-open it no tabs manifest.
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        • Profile picture of the author DannyUK
          I think Opera is the most accomplished of all the browsers but for whatever reasons nobody seems to use it, including myself. Maybe it's just a bit too cutting edge and innovative.

          Obviously IE sucked, sucks and will continue to suck for ever. MS still doesn't have a clue how to build a browser. I'll never forgive them for the vast amount of extra work I've had to put in over the years just to make web sites work in their garbage. Essentially MS has single-handedly retarded the whole web development industry and they did it on the back of the Windows monopoly. I hope people remember this and keep biting into the uncompetitive (until recently) MS market share. MS's latest farce is their objection to Spoon providing virtual clients for testing. It was one of the few easy ways to see how badly IE6 and 7 was mangling a perfectly valid site. This is a disaster and typical MS, money first and the customer nowhere. I loathe them.

          Chrome is the boss for JavaScript but if Google starts gaining ground in the browser market I see this as potentially very dangerous. Do we really want them to have control of the largest and most popular search engine AND the browser people use to access it? Smells like more MS BS to me. Plus they have a policy of using the public as guinea pigs by inflicting beta releases that masquerade as production quality. So don't assume smooth sailing in the future.

          I agree that Firefox is fumbling the ball. The memory leak problem is horrible. Bottom line though, if you are a developer Firefox is the only serious choice. I suspect the same holds true for technically savvy marketers too.

          Safari is a joke browser (on Windows anyway) and this new Flood is essentially Chrome with a social media bandwidth hog build on.

          So for fast browsing, Chrome is tops but I hope they don't get too much penetration. For anything else it has to be Firefox.

          Have a look at this for a quick hack to alleviate the Firefox memory problem. It works for me.

          This May Help Your Firefox Memory Leak
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  • FF can be a resource hog but if you're using a machine that has at least 2g RAM then you should be fine.

    I know a lot of people like Chrome but I'm just not a fan. I need my FF plugins.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yasir Farooq
    I think

    Google chrome is on no 1 and FirFox on no2.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cantbedone!
    Actually, I just installed firefox because IE was giving me the business...

    It's working much better now. Hopefully I don't run into the same thing you are experiencing....

    I usually have about 7 to 10 tabs open in 2 windows and IE was slow and constantly crashing, requiring a reboot. It's amazing how much time that was wasting. I guess if Firefox ends up failing, theres always chrome.
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    • Profile picture of the author shadow_wolf013
      Never have any problems with Firefox. IE on the other hand goes out of its way to irritate me somedays : / but i run both, each for diffrent purposes.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tashi Mortier
        I used to be very attached to Firefox, too. Mostly because I didn't trust Google chrome because of that unique ID it used to have.

        But I just couldn't stand Firefox any longer. It takes up way to much time to load. Also the layout of chrome is just more wide-screen friendly.

        I moved my task-bar to the right side of the screen so I have more vertical space available. Chrome takes up very small space in that direction so I really have the largest possible view on the web page.

        My advice is that you don't make your web browser a religion, though. Once the new "generation" of browsers comes out I'll reevaluate my choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
    Blimey. Until this thread I thought that my Firefox problems were down to my pc!

    Ever since I began using it Firefox has been completely unreliable. Takes forever to open up and then when it does, just when you are in the middle of something it will crash and crash again............and again.

    But I have to keep it in my browser collection in order to test websites across browsers.
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    • Profile picture of the author DannyUK
      Originally Posted by IndigoJack View Post

      Blimey. Until this thread I thought that my Firefox problems were down to my pc!

      Ever since I began using it Firefox has been completely unreliable. Takes forever to open up and then when it does, just when you are in the middle of something it will crash and crash again............and again.

      But I have to keep it in my browser collection in order to test websites across browsers.
      Remove all your plugins and see how it runs. Then add the plugins back one by one until you find the culprit.
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      • Profile picture of the author noangel
        @TheGrooby... Oh, that's no good... wait... I remember... it would
        ask if I want to save it and if you say "yes" it saves the pages. It
        doesn't ask every time, just once and then it always saves the pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Weiler
    Firefox is killing me with it's slow load time. I love Chrome but I am always afraid it is tattle tailing to Google on everything that I do. I don't know how I feel about big brother knowing more.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Leo McMackin
    I also dislike Firefox, it randomly changes my whole screen to an advertisement every half an hour or so. I'm currently using Google Chrome and find it very quick.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Originally Posted by Leo McMackin View Post

      I also dislike Firefox, it randomly changes my whole screen to an advertisement every half an hour or so. I'm currently using Google Chrome and find it very quick.
      That is not due to FF. You've picked up some adware or malware somehow. If FF seems to be the only thing infected, uninstalling it and downloading the new version might take care of the problem.

      Another simple thing to do would be to download Avast, and install that. You will have to do a restart to complete the install. On the restart window you will be given the option of doing a boot time scan. Tick that box. Avast will stop the restart about half way through and do a complete scan when nothing else is moving.

      Because it can use all the cpu and memory it doesn't take long. And it is really good at finding the nasties.
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  • Profile picture of the author imkazu
    I haven't looked at firefox much since I the switch to Chrome,
    could get most of the extensions on Chrome, only use imacros occasionally on FF when needed
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  • Profile picture of the author Abraham L
    Chrome is the way to go. Hands down.
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    • Profile picture of the author noangel
      @Scott G: Great news! Thank you so much for helping me get rid of the bug
      on my computer. I am pleased to report that my Google Chrome is working again!
      I am very excited, thanks again :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author RunningBear
    Firefox crashes on me at least once a week and I can't start it up again without rebooting. Although I haven't used Chrome before, I have it installed and have seen it. It is such a sleek looking program. Maybe I'll convert.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimkay
    love using Chrome and since you can just use the URL bar to search Google, I can't use anything else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Originally Posted by Cantbedone! View Post

      I usually have about 7 to 10 tabs open in 2 windows
      I've often had over 150 tabs open in ff without problems, but just in one window. I also have a beast of a laptop, a 17 inch Lenovo. They were mostly lightweight pages, mostly with just text, from my forum browsing days. I just moved to another country and had to leave the desktop behind. Looks like this is going to be my only machine for awhile.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ken
        I'm also a Chrome convert. Been using FF for few years and thought
        it was the best ever. It began to slow down a few months ago and
        began to act like a handicapped snail.

        Switched to Chrome a few days ago and suddenly I'm back on the
        Super Hi-way at breakneck speed.

        Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author Dalyinx
    From my experience Google Toolbar and the Skype extension absolutely destroy Firefox. At one point, my browser was using over 1.5gb of RAM due to the leaks these plugins caused.

    If I had to guess, I'd say most of you having a hard time are using the Google Toolbar. Get rid of it and it might help. SEO quake is okay for me, but that's with the toolbar disabled. I just have the little button at the bottom.
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  • Profile picture of the author invitetheweb
    You guys are killin me here. Download a different browser already then haha wow!
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  • Profile picture of the author aduttonater
    I have FireFox Downloaded, but never use it. I think it's slow and unorganized.

    Google Chrome is where it's at!
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    • Profile picture of the author noangel
      @TheGrooby...

      Now I have Google Chrome working again, I can tell you how to have it save your pages.

      1. Click on the Spanner on the top right of the page.
      2. Go to the Tab that says "Basics"
      3. Under the heading "On Startup" select the middle option, which says:
      "Reopen the pages that were opened last"

      And Voila! :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author CDaeda
        The free browsers are the best. There are ways to fix the hiccups. Use Linux Ubuntu instead of Windows or MAC? Free is best.
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    • Profile picture of the author linkin park
      Originally Posted by aduttonater View Post

      I have FireFox Downloaded, but never use it. I think it's slow and unorganized.

      Google Chrome is where it's at!
      Firefox rocks :rolleyes:, it's fast when i compare to the latest browser i use firefox 4 beta 7
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  • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
    Banned
    FF + AdBlock Plus = incredible!
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    • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
      The biggest problems with the newest Firefox are the add-ons and plugin container - these crash all the time.
      Try to pinpoint the add-ons that might be causing the problem, and uninstall them.
      Otherwise check out other more "hippie" browsers like Opera
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  • Profile picture of the author obx08
    Thanks for the info on plugin controller. That was driving me nuts!
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  • I have been using FF since before it was FF. I started online with netscape 2.0 back in the dinosaur days.
    I didn't even know that windows 95 had a browser named IE at the time.

    AS for the current versions of FF, the only reason it will crash is if you have a problem with either your computer or with plugins/add ons.

    For those of you that have said that it worked just fine and then lately it has been giving you problems, guess what, you need to get rid of some of the junk that is slowing it down/making it crash.

    I don't remember the last time I had FF crash on me. I do admit that I don't have hundreds of windows/tabs open at the same time.

    As a side note, I usually don't use many tabs at all, I just open new windows instead.

    luck,
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  • Profile picture of the author hrbweaver
    Firefox seems to be working fine for me. I have used others but I keep finding myself going back to it. Just my humble opinion, For what it's worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author boknows
    Firefox is still the best for me. I can use certain plugins you cannot find anywhere else. I like IE8 but have an MSFT avoidance issue, and Chrome is just not there yet, just another Google MeTo product. Its FF all the way and you just have to balance your plugins to keep it stable.
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  • Profile picture of the author shashank_h
    I use Opera a lot. It is the cleanest and the fastest browser in Market. Their New javascript engine is more advanced than others. Also, I like the look and feel of Opera.
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  • Profile picture of the author FatterMike
    Now I'm trying to use chrome as much as I could, can't stand having another crash from firefox
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    I use google chrome but that also some times sucks
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