Ok, so how do I set up the domain thingy for the hoplink from ezineartlces to sales page?

13 years ago

If all you want to do is redirect the traffic from your ezine articles to a product you are promoting such as a Clickbank product then you can do that through your domain provider.
If you bought your domain from GoDaddy then you can forward the domain to your hoplink. Just log into your GoDaddy account and set up the domain forwarding.

If you want to make it look like it's your page then you can mask the url. What this means is that if you are promoting a ebook about acne from 4BestAcneEbook.c0m (example only) and you own the domain 4ClearAcneToday.c0m (example only), your domain name will show up in the address bar instead of the author's site or your hoplink. I don't know if these sites are real they are examples I just thought up.

This is all done inside of your domain provider account. Hope this helps.

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steadypay

13 years ago

Thanks, is there any advantages to the latter over the former?

Atm I just want to write articles and throw them over to the sales page so whatever is most effective for that end...

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

Thanks, is there any advantages to the latter over the former?

It's not really a "former" and a "latter" - it's all one thing, really. It's a way of redirecting a domain from its top-level (on which people click in your resource-box) to your hoplink in a way which is permissable under EZA rules. The "latter" part is just a way of doing that without the hoplink showing in the potential customer's browser bar, and is arguably better simply for that reason.

They're equally "effective" from the mechanical perspective.

Originally Posted by steadypay

I want only one if poss so I can put all my links on the same one to save money and to keep them together. So I'd choose a really general name.

You can't, I'm afraid. It has to be a top-level domain, to do it this way (because of EZA's rules: this doesn't apply to most other directories).

If you want to do it this way, you'll need to buy something like a .info domain-name for each product you're promoting (they're only $1 each at GoDaddy, and you get free "privacy protection" included - if you want it - if you buy 5+ in one transaction).

Originally Posted by steadypay

After that I'm thinking I'll be able to get cracking and start tearing out the articles and seeing what is working and what isn't.

I'm afraid it's very unlikely that doing it this way ("direct-linking") will tell you what's working and what isn't.

You need two main things, to make sales of Clickbank products: (i) the ability to pre-sell effectively (i.e. not just with your article but with at least a one-page review/personal-story blog/site); and (ii) the ability to build a list. This way, you can do neither.

The specific problem with what you're suggesting is that it doesn't follow at all (to put it mildly!) that the ones from which you can make any sales this way are the ones "worth putting up a little site for": it may well be the case (and often is) that the ones that make a sale or two by direct-linking don't make many more sales with a little website in-between the article and the sales page, whereas the ones that would convert very well with that arrangement may not make a sale at all with direct-linking. So it isn't really possible to learn anything useful, this way, and it's not actually "testing" anything meaningfully. Sorry about that, but that's just how it is.

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steadypay

13 years ago

Ok so since you just tore my action plan to shreds care to offer me a better one?

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

Ok so since you just tore my action plan to shreds care to offer me a better one?

I didn't intend to "tear it to shreds" and apologise if that was how it came across.

I intended to suggest that (a) it's unlikely indeed to be the most productive way to go about this, and (b) that it won't be actually be possible even from the limited sales it may produce to learn anything enabling you to "improve the system".

Yes - I can suggest something much better, I think.

Proceed as above, but instead of directing the reader straight to the hoplink (i.e. with only your re-directed domain-name in-between to get round the EZA rules), put up a simple, one-page blog/site. You can do this fairly easily. You can even do it without spending a penny on it, with a bit of ingenuity, though low-cost paid ways may be preferable in the long run.

On the little website, have some "pre-selling information" about the product. This could be in the form of a review, or a comparative review, and/or your personal story about the problem you had and how the product solved it for you - you get the idea? Just pre-selling - not selling. Also have an opt-in so that you can build a list and proceed to market the product (and other products in future) to the people on your list. This is a whole different ball-game and starts to lay the framework for future income as well as just fast income.

It's good to have a "free report" (for example) to give away on your site, in exchange for their email addresses. So, yes, there's more involved in setting it up, clearly. But it works, and it's how money's made, and (most important of all) you can learn from it and improve it as you go along (which I'm afraid you more or less can't, really, with the original suggestion).

This also has the enormous advantage that as you write more articles, you can publish them yourself on your own site first, before submitting them to EZA, exactly as explained in this thread, and that way you're developing a real asset for your business's future, too, and building up your site rather than just someone else's. If you do that, your site will (in Google's eyes) be "regularly updated", too, which is good for SEO.
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- myob 13 years ago
  
  Just about every Clickbank product already has links from "authority" sites ranking high in the search engines. Your best bet really as Alexa suggests is to build review sites and niche lists then promote these products as "recommendations" to your lists. Anything else is pretty much of a waste of time.
  
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steadypay

13 years ago

Ok, thanks.

My original intention was to do the 'bum marketing' route.

I understood that maybe long run it would be better to get established but thought I could get a feel for it without committing to specific niches with the bum route (no pun intended lol

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With the setup a blog etc. isn't that targeted to a specific niche so I'd have to commit to a certain niche and stick with it would I not?

I mean I wouldn't want to spread myself too thin doing loads of blogs for every different product cos then quality would be lost I imagine- I guess this is what bum marketing is but the strength seems to be in volume and 'saturating the market' from what I've read.

Aren't we talking about two different tacks again like I made a thread about before- shotgun vs sniper method?

As I've also mentioned I do have one particular niche I feel I have loads of knowledge on so could certainly see myself creating a website/blog and making continued content for that.

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steadypay

13 years ago

ok,

Just before I read this latest reply I actually read just the same thing on some bum marketing book advising the same.

So what do I have to do then buy a domain and a website?

How much will each cost min/average?

Also how do I check the trends of how much things people are buying in the niche?

As I know alot about the niche I can guess what people are buying but of course I don't know till i look at what is actually selling. Just look at what ads are on google? Also, you mentioned before a buying niche, what constitutes a buying niche (from a non buying one)?

But yea I wanna get cracking with something now so I'll buy a domain and website/whatever else to get started et al once I am advised what stuff I have to purchase then I can fire away at adding content.

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rhinocl 13 years ago

I think for someone just starting out it is important to build your own page. You can pay some one later once you've learned more about what to buy and made some income. I put up a video on how to build a site with a free tool. To look at it go to youtube.com and search for videohelpforim. Sorry its long-17 minutes.
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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

Just before I read this latest reply I actually read just the same thing on some bum marketing book advising the same.

Ooh, well, at least I'm not a "lone voice in the wilderness", then.

Originally Posted by steadypay

So what do I have to do then buy a domain and a website?

Yes, you need a domain-name and hosting.

There are hundreds of threads here on how to get those.

Originally Posted by steadypay

How much will each cost min/average?

If you want a .com domain-name, you're looking at about $9/$10 (I recommend Namecheap - there are many others).

For hosting, my own advice is to decide whether you want free hosting or paid hosting. Many people will tell you that all free hosting is bad hosting, and unreliable hosting, and all the rest of it. I don't agree with this and I think it's a very oversimplified view, and there's one good, reliable, safe, well-established free host I recommend called Byethost (have a look in Google).

Are you able to make a site from Wordpress? If you are, that solves that problem. If you're not (like me) then there's a whole range of other options. But if you can manage Wordpress, you probably should (for many reasons I'm glossing over). Wordpress itself (from wordpress.org) is free.

Good, paid hosting starts at about $5 per month. (I recommend Hostgator, for a combination of good prices and good customer support but again there are many others. Avoid GoDaddy for hosting!).

Regarding your other questions, if you think I can help you, you're welcome to try me by private message (I appreciate that you probably won't want to discuss details of your niche openly on the board) and if I know nothing about it at all and can't help you, I'll say so very quickly (and possibly suggest someone who can).
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steadypay

13 years ago

Thanks,

So is it better to get my own host etc. than to just get a free blog on blogger.com or whatever other free one?

If so, how come?

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Istvan Horvath 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

If so, how come?

Are you planning to build a business or just flirting with the idea of "hobby blogging"?

If you have the answer to this question, you will know 'how come'...
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myob 13 years ago

For many reasons it is always best to have your own host, mainly because you have more control. Blogger, for example, will delete your blog for just the exact reason you are planning on using it for. Hosting a blog for free on Wordpress.com also has restrictions, but many web hosting plans offer free blogging software.
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

So is it better to get my own host etc. than to just get a free blog on blogger.com or whatever other free one?

If so, how come?

Yes, definitely not a "free blog" (especially not on wordpress.com or blogger). If you have your own hosting, you're more in control, and not subject to anyone else's changeable terms of service and their (sometimes idiosyncratic, inconsistent) interpretations of them. It's your site and your business.

Whatver you do, don't buy your hosting from the same place you use to register the domain name (no long explanations: just trust me - and others - that that's a mistake!).

Generally, "paid" is safer and much more reliable and better than "free", even for a "self-hosted Wordpress blog". Byethost, mentioned above, is perhaps an exception: a good free host, which provides a decent, reliable service on the strength of which they sell "paid upgrades"; they're very like a paid host, really, except you can start off there free. (They don't have "C-Panel", though, for their free hosting, which is a slight drawback).

If you want to spend a little bit more, there are "hybrid hosts" for Wordpress users, who will set up and install your Wordpress blog for you on your own domain-name (which you've bought elsewhere), and give you really good "special customer service for newbies to hosting and to Wordpress" for a fairly low price in order to attract you as a hosting customer. Just don't register the domain-name through them as well.

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RentItNow

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Whatver you do, don't buy your hosting from the same place you use to register the domain name (no long explanations: just trust me - and others - that that's a mistake!).

Exactly! I agree. When u first purchase hosting u may have one free domain reg tho. Otherwise never use again to register. No need to waste money.

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genietoast 13 years ago

If you want to do domain forwarding, you can always go onto You Tube and search for Go Daddy Masking and Fowarding. There are several videos that show you how to do it. You will have to purchase a domain name from Go Daddy. .info is cheaper.
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RentItNow

13 years ago

1. Register a domain with someone like namecheap.com (example: myniche.com)
2. Get hosting space that allows multiple domains hosted on same acct. The one in my sig lets u do unlimited.
3. Set up a new domain using the host's cpanel and note their dns servers (eg: ns1.somehost.com, ns2.somehost.com).
4. Go back to the domain registrar and input the dns numbers into their app.
5. Make an index.html file in the root directory of that domain (public_html/myniche.com/index.html.

In the file place this code:

Code:

<html>
<head>
<meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=http://yourhoplink.blah/">
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html>

I usually place google analytics code before the </head> as well.

6. Upload it.
7. In your articles link to your domain http://www.myniche.com/ and it will forward.

Good luck.

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steadypay

13 years ago

Genie with this method wuld I be able to do multiple forwards form the same domain? So if I was promoting several unrelated products through article marketing could I forward each through the one domain without having to buy a new one for each?

That isn't such a biggy as they aren't that much but would be useful to keep everything together.

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rhinocl 13 years ago

Yes you can forward different pages to different domains,but please reread what you've been told about preselling. Better to build pages that presell than empty pages that just redirect to your affiliate link.
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steadypay

13 years ago

Ok, but I could still do a best of both worlds having one geenric domain and lots of redirects to different presell pages couldn't I?

Or with the pages do I have to buy one for each? If so how much are they for cheapest?

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Lloyd Buchinski

13 years ago

A simple method of forwarding is to just get a domain and hosting. (hostpc.com for about $26 a year, unlimited domains. It has serious advantages and some disadvantages too. Pm or email for more details, happy to supply them.) Then set up a folder like 'recommends,' or 'hypes' or whatever. Send your links to a redirect file in that folder.

That has a serious advantage. If you are redirecting to a product that goes out of business, you can change the redirect to a product that is still in business. (Yesss!!) All the links that you might have out in articles can still be used, and don't dead end in a tin can. (404 or whatever)

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steadypay

13 years ago

Right. So you suggest still having a presell page/s then links to the recommends folder etc. which I could keep updated at my leisure?

Hmm, rather than linking them direct that brings a large -as I see it- upshot in itself to the whole presell page idea, being able to keep links to products updated as and when rather than dumping them on defunkt products.

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djemerald

13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

This is prob the main thing stopping me from getting going proper now and learning through trial and error.

So could someone lay it out simply what I have to do to setup the domain which I can use for all my jumpoffs from ezinearticles to whichever sales page.

I want only one if poss so I can put all my links on the same one to save money and to keep them together. So I'd choose a really general name.

After that I'm thinking I'll be able to get cracking and start tearing out the articles and seeing what is working and what isn't.

Love that word "thingy " I find as a new marketer i use it alot.

Warrior members give good advise. I would try out some of the things they suggest and if that isnt working for you, keep coming back here for more help

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