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Are you serious? If you don't like Nick that's fine, if you don't like his posts thats fine too. But don't come to a thread trying to start a 'fight' for no reason at all...he just posted a great thread, and i'm sure it took him quite awhile to write it. I found it very usefull, espically the part about the call centers.

Even though I already knew everything in the post I still found it a good reminder of how some internet marketers make their money.

I'm thinking you don't make even 1% of what Nick makes so really your opinion doesn't matter a whole lot.

Just my 2 cents

By the way you come across as quite the arrogant ass. Just letting you know

Off topic, but will reply Oh no, not at all. Not to sound conceited, really, but I earn millions from my online businesses. The PMF system is a really cool little system I've been using for some time now. It does really work well.

There is no potential in giving away free stuff unless it is actually valuable. That's the key.



This call center that you use- is it based out of Utah, where employees are paid commissions only, like most successful businesses use? Why not just tell us the company that is so good, so all these people stop making mistakes with the sharks out there?

How often are you signing up as a lead to go through the sales process, to make sure customer experience is top notch?

What else are you doing to make sure its all legit?

I know exactly the group of people you're referring to. I know them all too well- They are paid commissions only and need to feed a family, what do you expect?

The businesses that hire them don't care, because they do make big commissions. The company I worked for in the past did 5k-35k packages- so 5-10k is like taking candy from a baby over the phone.


Thomas is spot on with what he is saying.

I've worked for companies that employee these telemarketing companies and my friend also consulted for numerous telemarketing companies based in Utah (most successful businesses use these guys because of commissions only!)

Anyone being paid commission only, WILL do whatever it takes for the sale.

You want to feed your family and kids? Then make the 10k sale at any cost. This is how they operate- most of them. One of the guys I know out there has been doing it for over 15 years and makes good money.

I can almost guarantee most marketing "gurus" are using these Utah based companies where they are paid commissions only.

I know for a fact- at least a few years ago- a well known marketing guru that everyone here knows, sold there list (or gave it for follow up) to a telemarketing company I worked with (they were in Utah) and used these same strong arm tactics. Not good for the marketers reputation at all.

You know why you can't use these Utah based, commissions only people?

Because they have been doing this for years- this is a super old tactic that Nick is promoting and these guys have there ways set and will do whatever it takes for the sale.

I hope Nick and others that are using outsourcing companies are paying them by the hour, recording there calls, and listening to the calls personally themselves- or else they have no idea whats going on.


Nice Post Chris,

The key is knowing you who you dealing with when outsourcing.

Want to know the real problem?

MOST big, successful companies, use Utah based, commissions only people. Utah is famous for these companies. All the top guys know this.

This may be fairly new to Nick and other warrior memebers, but don't be fooled and sucked in by the dollar signs- remember, these guys are SALESMEN- and they are good!

These are what the Big Boys use because its cheap (commissions only)- and they convert real well(at any cost).

Honestly, I know multiple organizations, doing 50m-150m+ a year that use these guys- and these are brand names, not your average Joe- like a Nick Marks.

I don't know who Nick is using, but THE MOST COMMON people to use in this industry, for the cheapest, with the best results, are the Utah based dudes - and do you think some guy being paid commissions only trying to feed his family, really cares about the reputation of some "internet gurus" business..

These telemarketing dudes work with info companies that do seminars everyday. How many internet gurus put on seminars everyday around the nation? My mind is blank, too...

It is profitable, but do you really want to strong arm your prospects/ customers? Because that's how they work.

I don't know who Nick is using- but I know many marketers make mistakes when choosing these companies and it can screw up your relationship with your prospects and customers.

My point is- don't make that mistake... It can be costly...

Nick,

I took a look at the site in your signature. The pre-headline reads (in part): "...has not been effected one bit!..."

Shouldn't that be "affected"? No offense, but this mistake (combined with a get-rich-quick look and feel) really damages your site's credibility.

Just thought you'd like to know. I didn't even scroll to the end of the page before I clicked away.

Michelle