Is EPN worth it anymore?

sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

All I ever hear about it that the person was rejected and wanted to know how to get in. I know very few who are in.

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John Rogers 13 years ago

I personally know someone who is currently grossing about $20k per month from ePN. He's been at it for close to three years, and his income has dropped about $10k per month over the last year. I know he uses PPC so I'm sure his net profit is considerably less. However, in answer to the OP, yes, I would say it is worth it if you don't go in blind and get yourself booted from the program.

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- frankwyatt77777 13 years ago
  
  I am making about $100.00 a month. It is all automated through auto blogs.
  
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bgmacaw

13 years ago

It's good but it isn't as profitable as it was 2-3 years ago when the payouts were really fantastic. Some "bad apples" and changing economic conditions ruined it for us. I still make decent money at it but, if the old payment model was still in place, I'd probably be making well over 5 figures a month from it.

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trishworks4u

13 years ago

yes, worth it as 1 income stream but NEVER the only. that would be terrifying. those guys are so schitzo...

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SebastianJ

13 years ago

I started with EPN 3 months ago or something like that. I currently have 14 exact match domain auto blogs (haven't promoted them at all) that last month made me about 1,000 USD. I'm promoting Amazon products as well and I'm making nowhere close to what I'm making on EPN.

One thing that I've noticed is that you seem to get more consistent EPCs the longer you're actively promoting EPN products. I'm guessing that it has something to do with the EPC algorithm and that it takes some time for it to adjust to the quality of the traffic you're sending.

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TelZilla

13 years ago

I have one EPN site left that is generating about $8 or so every six months. I used to make a solid 4 figures a month from them, but when they changed their business model, my income from those sites dropped to practically nothing overnight. I dropped EPN on all but the one site, sold the rest. I haven't touched the one I have left in over a year.

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- M Thompson 13 years ago
  
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  I used to love ebay, I would often make $3000 or more a month or more, then they changed the system and that dropped drastically to under $300. I was selling a lot of high value items , race bikes, race cars, engines, etc. One day I was earning $100 or something stupid like that from a sale , the next I had a 12 cent click (can't remember exactly but it felt like that!)
  
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J Bold

13 years ago

I had to Google what you're talking about. Ebay's affiliate program, right?

Ah, got to love acronyms.

As a consumer, I never even think about Ebay anymore so I don't know what that tells you. I pretty much stick to Amazon, Itunes and Best Buy. I think as a site in general it doesn't hold the same power it used to, but that's just a personal opinion as a consumer, whatever it's worth.

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SebastianJ

13 years ago

EPN = Ebay Partner Network, that's what they call their in-house affiliate program.

And if anyone might be curious what EPC is: earnings per click.

I've read somewhere (please correct me if 'm wrong) that the average EPC for an EPN-publisher is 0.15 - 0.30 USD. I'm typically at the 0.30 - 0.40 mark, but last month I had a week of 1 USD EPCs, that was awesome

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I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the ACRUs from the month before that (ACRU = active confirmed registered user, that is, a unique new customer that registered and placed a bid on eBay via one of your sites). I haven't quite figured out everything about the ACRUs yet, but every ACRU is supposed to give you everything between 1 and 50 USD, depending on how much these new users bid etc. on eBay.

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bgmacaw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by SebastianJ

I haven't quite figured out everything about the ACRUs yet, but every ACRU is supposed to give you everything between 1 and 50 USD, depending on how much these new users bid etc. on eBay.

Not anymore. This now gets figured into your "quality score" and is part of the super secret formula that determines what you're paid per click.

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TelZilla

13 years ago

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

the super secret formula that determines what you're paid per click.

Super Secret Formula

Take What eBay is Earning * .001 = Payment to Affiliate

At least that's my experience.

The one site I have left that makes $8 every 6 months or so, used to make $500+ / month with no advertising and the same amount of traffic it still gets. Do the math. It's no longer a viable source of income.

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bgmacaw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TelZilla

The one site I have left that makes $8 every 6 months or so, used to make $500+ / month with no advertising and the same amount of traffic it still gets. Do the math. It's no longer a viable source of income.

It still does decently well for me although not anywhere nearly as well as it did before they did the big pricing/policy changes in 2009. The thing that seems to work best for me now are mid-priced items that sell well on eBay and not so much the impulse purchases that did well back then because they attracted sign-ups.

For as big a drop as you're describing you were probably getting a lot of sign-ups back then and you're no longer getting paid for them. Just 20 sign-ups a month would get you to $500 but, as you noted, it will be a whole lot less now.

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Mar 13 years ago

EPN is one of my small additional streams of income; as long as you stick to the rules, they're fine. They're currently trying in incentivise affiliates to produce better results in December (OK, they did November as well but you missed that deadline) - which suggests that they're feeling the pain of the recession.

My guess is that they're also feeling the effects of Amazon becoming the "in place" to buy and sell goods and that they're going to have to reverse some of the strange decisions they made over the last couple of years about their core business, bringing the fun back into selling on eBay.

Good luck with your EPN income building!

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UncleDearest 13 years ago

I do pretty well with EPN. I think the ACRU's, although no longer a direct payout, add much more value to my EPC's in the long run, than if I didn't have any. I actively pursue new sign ups (ACRU's) and it works well for me.
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Diane S

13 years ago

Those $25 ACRUs were sure sweet while they lasted! ePN was my first IM income source. I still get a little income from the indexed dot com sites I own.

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