Greed... Im on page one, work harder?

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Im a n000b... I was on page 17 for a competitive key.. I was on page 3 two days ago and settled on very bottom of page1 today. My key gets 17,000 local (usa) monthly searches. Should I keep doing what im doing or is this being greedy and accept my bottom of page one place?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
    Well what do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Is that 17,000 searches for the word in general or the exact phrase you are targeting? There's a big difference...
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    • Profile picture of the author Dresden14
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Is that 17,000 searches for the word in general or the exact phrase you are targeting? There's a big difference...
      I dont know. If I go to google keyword tool it shows 17,000 local (USA searches). I try the key by its self, and with "example" and yet it still shows 17,000. If I go to google (doing so now and type in key), results listed:

      About 4,470,000 results (0.25 seconds)
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      • Profile picture of the author KevinTorrence
        Yep, like everyone else is saying ... keep workin' at it!

        I've noticed quite a bit of difference in visitors from being at the bottom and the top of the first page of certain keywords. You also have to remember that the keyword itself makes a difference.

        If you try to think about what the person typing that keyword is thinking, that can give you insight to if it's going to give you results or not. (basically the buyer mindset). If they're looking for info, you may get the clickthrough, but not see any action happen.

        On the other hand, the keyword could be super targeted to a certain product and get huge results without a ton of traffic. I tend to go for those kinds of keywords.

        Also, your page title and description can make a huge difference on whether people click through to your site from the serps or not too. If you know what they're "really" thinking in their minds, you can pull them in. Then make sure the content on your page matches that line of thought as well.

        ...But, you not gonna be able to tinker around with all that until you hit those top spots and pull the visitors. So keep going for the top!
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  • Profile picture of the author nealh
    I would of thought you'd proceed until you hit number 1. If it's been fairly easy until now then just keep doing what you've done and see the results.

    I dont know who would stop there.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemeth
    If those are exact yes work harder!
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    If it's a "buying" keyword with commercial intent (I'm assuming you're trying to sell something on your website, of course), then continue with what you're doing and build additional backlinks to your site to push it higher up on page 1 - you don't want to remain on the bottom, do you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Bane
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      If it's a "buying" keyword with commercial intent (I'm assuming you're trying to sell something on your website, of course), then continue with what you're doing and build additional backlinks to your site to push it higher up on page 1 - you don't want to remain on the bottom, do you?
      You can turn a non-buying keyword into a buying keyword if you market it correctly
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  • Profile picture of the author johnlagoudakis
    Go for no. 1 spot!

    There's a huge difference in traffic between being on the last spot on page one compared to the first spot. If I remember correctly, you're looking at about 40% of the search volume clicking on result no. 1 and about 5% on result no. 10.

    That's 8 times as much traffic (and 8 times as many sales!).

    If your content is good, there's no reason why you shouldn't claim first place


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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    Being at number 1 is highly over rated. So are all those buggers that win races they enter. I mean it's so much cooler to breeze in at 9th place to avoid all that attention from the opposite sex, the champagne, the cash prizes...

    And while we're at it, why go to Bali when New Jersey is so close? No one really likes umbrella drinks. Not really.

    Ford Fiesta's have 4 wheels, why should we bother with a Ferrari?

    Pfft, I say stay at the bottom of the page.

    /end sarcasm
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      The truth is, contrary to what many may think, not EVERYONE clicks on the first Google result. With that said, appearing on the first page of a highly competitive term is nothing to gawk about. It's a great thing when it happens....BUT, if it's within his power to rank higher, I would certainly try to.

      Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

      Being at number 1 is highly over rated. So are all those buggers that win races they enter. I mean it's so much cooler to breeze in at 9th place to avoid all that attention from the opposite sex, the champagne, the cash prizes...

      And while we're at it, why go to Bali when New Jersey is so close? No one really likes umbrella drinks. Not really.

      Ford Fiesta's have 4 wheels, why should we bother with a Ferrari?

      Pfft, I say stay at the bottom of the page.

      /end sarcasm
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        The truth is, contrary to what many may think, not EVERYONE clicks on the first Google result. With that said, appearing on the first page of a highly competitive term is nothing to gawk about. It's a great thing when it happens....BUT, if it's within his power to rank higher, I would certainly try to.
        Kinda what I was trying to say, but with umbrella drinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonAlfredsson
    You must continue working hard on it. Work your way up to the top and once you're there, you have to continue working on it to stay on top. Most of the time, staying on top is challenging. Just continue what you're doing to stay on top.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrBacklinker
    You have momentum, do not stop! Dance with Google!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mar
    Keep on building (unless you're in my niche, of course LOL) - because the competition for the top spots is always ferocious and you've got to assume that the whole world is out to knock you off page 1.

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  • Profile picture of the author AEC
    Sounds like you are doing real good for a n000b! I have went on and back off of page one for keywords that are a lot less competitive.

    Originally Posted by Dresden14 View Post

    Im a n000b... I was on page 17 for a competitive key.. I was on page 3 two days ago and settled on very bottom of page1 today.
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  • Profile picture of the author lainehmann
    Keep working. You can easily fall off the first page if someone below you keeps working and you don't! Plus, why settle for anything less than #1???
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  • Profile picture of the author brandonbaker
    All the fun is at the top 3 slots, keep going!
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