Forex Trading to make money

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I have just joined iforex and from tommorow I will be starting their training for one week. I was wondering if anyone out here can throw light on forex trading. Are you guys also using forex trading as one of your ways to make money online. Please share your opinions. Thanks
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  • You can make lot's of money trading forex, but you must beware of the many charlatans who operate in that industry.

    You are not going to achieve 20% gains month over month using 100:1 leverage, as many would lead you to believe.

    But, if you are smart about it, work hard, and don't give up, you can make some solid returns...
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      I did make a living (just about) from it for about 9 months, but that was knowing quite a lot about it to start with (it's been my father's profession all my life, and I have - and have read - about 40 books on it!).

      It's not easy, and the success-rate's low.

      It requires great patience and discipline.

      There's probably 50 times more "misinformation" than "information" out there, about forex trading. Some of it broadcast by people selling things, and some of it just believed by gullible/hopeful market participants who lack experience and know no better.

      That's for sure. I'd suggest that nobody without many years' experience should be trading with 100:1 leverage, because the accidents are all out there, waiting to happen, and overstaking and margin calls are the best way to have them wipe you out.
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  • The Forex products available on Clickbank don't get anything like the results they claim. Just be aware. You're WAY better off spending your time creating value for your list than trying to invest in something as volatile as Forex.

    We work in a business where money basically grows on trees if you know what you're doing...I would put your focus there.

    R
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      This is absolutely for certain.

      They couldn't possibly: they're all based on "indicators".
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  • This is something I want to get into sometime, too. I tend to react with logic before emotions, so several people have commented that I'd make a good [insert soulless profession here]. :p

    Those who have experience in the industry, any recommendations on books and websites to help a newbie get started?
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  • What is iforex?
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    • idontknow?

      They are a forex broker...swing by Google and it will tell you all you need to know.
  • Hi there,
    I'm a full time forex trader and have been for the last 7 years, I absoutely LOVE IT! I was fortunate enough to have been taught by a guy who worked on Wall Street. He's the best trader I have come across. We both have a trading room however I do not want to push it here as I don't want to seem as if Im using this thread to market it. If you have any queries then don't hesitate in sending me a pm or you can email me.

    If you want to become successful you have to master your Money managenment and psychology. If you can control these then you're almost there. Also, dont waste your money on expert advisors/robots. Learn as much as you can about price action/chart formations/candlestick patterns. This is how I begun and I now read charts with confidence snd execute a lot of succeddful trades. Also, NEVER risk more than 2% of your trading capital, and look for at least a 2:1 ratio.
    Best of luck in your trading
    cadi
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    • Hi

      Have traded for over 10 years in FOREX. Took me a long time to get profitable.

      Don't use robots. I agree with what other people have said. The market changes behaviour so one robot might work for a few weeks and then will lose all your money very quickly.

      Other tips.

      Practice with practice accounts

      Money management / risk management is key

      Look for multiple indicators saying the same thing at the same time so that they confirm the direction

      Always assume you're going to fail, so protect yourself every time.

      take your profits. Set a target and stick to it.


      I wrote a manual a while back with some videos which you can find here. Its one of the sites that I have. All free.

      But that's the reason I come on warrior forum to find new ideas to promote them.
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    • Hi Singhavn and all,

      Greetings from Singapore! I am very keen about IM and forex. This is my very 1st post and hope it can be of some value to you guys.

      I am trading forex and is really crazy about technical and fundamental analysis. Can FX really make money? Yes! it is really possible.

      See my last week performance at myforexjournal in kosmos-emporio dot com.
      My last week performance that I had made $256.27 in 5 days, literally stress-free and definitely not fixated on screen. I don't trade big lots, just mini and micro. You might be interested to have a look.
      Lastly, just for today, I am a little more daring, so is currently running as like this.

      You can based on the table to know how little I started for my FX, but in no way am I a good trader. There are still so much to learn and understand.

      I don't deny that FX is very volatile and there are so much garbage on the internet. I bought EAs that really disappoint me too. eg: FAP Turbo, Forex Megadriod, etc. In fact, I had developed my own EAs and indicators too. I am not selling them. I gave them to my close friends.

      There are some websites which is very helpful to me as I am still learning and sharpening my skills.
      informedtrades.com
      in youtube, fxbootcamp channel

      If you have time to read, Technical Analysis Explained is really a good book for your consideration.

      Hope you can be successful in FX trading one day.

      I am seriously looking into IM/SEM/SEO/affiliate marketing and hope that I can really learn something which really works from this forum!

      God bless!
    • Thanks for the kind support
  • Forex trading can be difficult for newbies. Without the proper training, I guarantee you will lose right away unless you're just lucky but the longer you play in the market without the proper training the more dangerous it becomes.

    I can't speak for all clickbank products but I can speak for one that I found last year. It wasn't a EA or Robot. It was an actual course. I actually met the guy on facebook months before I knew he had a product on cb. He'd send me free videos of his live trades...the videos were amazing to say the least. Months later I googled his name and his cb product came up...he never tried to sale me anything and he didn't even mention he was a mentor in our conversations on fb...i found him in a forex group.

    Im just saying not all clickbank products are scams and there's some genuine people out there who aren't trying to really capitalize on someone who doesn't know any better.

    I walked away from the program because the mentor and I had a few differences one night but I'm not going to bash his product or service. His mentoring was better than most and I purchased a few mentoring programs.
  • one of my friends doing this, but not online, very profitable
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      Now I'm intrigued: how can forex trading be "not online"?

      I thought that before the advent of the internet, the only people who could do forex trading were investment banks and finance houses with direct-linked terminals to interbank transactions and prices? Even a local branch of a bank couldn't transact a currency exchange for a client without it going through their main office?
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  • I prefer to use cash back credit cards + high interest CDs. The combination of the two methods gets me greater than 5% return which is awesome in this market. Add to that google adsense and I'm doing quite well just with these things. I see no need to deal with anything that carries a risk of loosing money.
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    • I have been trading forex for around a decade and love it.

      I did really well trading the news and still love volatile markets,
      though many choose to stay out.

      I have also written some programs and manuals, but have only
      shared them with friends.

      Traders are constant students, as the markets are always teaching
      us something new. But, being a psychology major, I also know that
      the markets are merely made up of people who are, for the most
      part, trading on their emotions and this makes the market easier
      to predict.

      Lately I have been trading metals... gold and silver... because
      since the little incident we had with the global economy, many
      people are going back to where the real value is, which is metals.
      Because paper money is predicted to convert back to it's real value.

      "Cash is Trash".

      Listen to what World renowned financial author of Rich Dad Poor
      Dad, Robert Kiyosaki, has to say about Silver and his prediction
      for the future.

      YouTube - Silver Investment: Cash is Trash - Invest in Silver!! (Rich Dad Predictions)
      Unfortunately, what has happened to the forex market, is that it has
      been discovered by marketers as a lucrative niche. Many are trying
      to tap into this, forgetting that real people, with real dreams are
      believing every word they say and pinning their hopes on it. I can
      usually immediately tell a website of a genuine trader, from that of
      a marketer.

      The story about the deaf guy really touched my heart and reminded
      me of a very well-known trader/marketer (more marketer, than trader)
      who for one of his many products (another red flag... if you have a
      working product that does what you claim, why keep producing more...
      unless you are primarily a marketer!). He received an email (all published
      online) from a blind guy who bought his product and he asked for help
      in "reading" the manual. He received a curt response saying he was
      not in the business of transcribing his manuals into Braille. The emails
      went back and forth with the blind guy remaining calm and dignified
      and the seller becoming more abusive.

      This really showed up his true character and caused many people to
      unsubscribe from his list... so a somewhat happy ending was achieved.

      I am not of the same belief that all robots and EAs are bad. I actually
      really like them, though most are total rubbish, but that doesn't mean
      that there aren't some diamonds in the rough.

      I also like modified indicators that help a trader not have to be chained
      to the charts and do some of the grunge work and allow me to get on
      with other things.

      Kind Regards,
      Angela
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  • If there is a good Forex product from Clickbank, It will definitely be Forex Trading Online | Forex ECN Broker (non affiliate)!
    I can almost guarantee that the owner namedVahid is genuine and very knowledgeable. Those with serious interest in Forex go and get yourself educated from this guy before dabbling with forex. Don't waste your hard earned money trading forex when you have little knowledge on it. I have been there and done that.....and learnt my lesson.
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    • I sincerely thanks all for their posts and giving their forex experiences. From what I read, it is clear that you can make a lot of money but at the same time can lose also. So it require risk which I think is their in any business. ----Big Opportunity-- Gives-- Big Risk-- Gives-- Big Money----. I don't at the moment have much knowledge on this way of making money but I am seriously on my way of learning it.

      IForex is giving me one on one live phone call traning for free. So I will definetily be taking advantage of it. Here is my plan:

      -I will start with $100 investment which is their minimum required deposit.
      -I will spend atleast 14 days in practice account with my account manager till the point I am confident of going live.
      - If I feel that it is not my cup of tea, I can anytime withdraw my $100 deposit or remaining balance. So I think I will be in the lowest risk position and is fair enough to try this out.

      What do you think? Anything else I should be considering?
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  • I trade Forex for nearly 4 years already and i can tell you its certainly one of the hardest way to make money. The Forex market is dominated by pros all over and normally you will be facing against big players like central banks and hedge funds. In a way it is harder than stocks in my opinion but that being said, i know many that make a fine living in Forex alone.

    My take is that learn Forex as much as you can but be prepared mentally because it can be quite taxing on you when you take inevitable losing streaks in your trades. I believe if you persevere hard enough in anything, you can definitely succeed
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    • Forex is a great way of losing money as well as making money.So be sensible with it.If you have a good business mind forex is for you.But don't keep over faith it it.It will help in a immense fall in your account.
  • The huge problem is you are trading time for money...you aren't there working you do not make or lsoe money. Is that why you quit your job? To work even harder?

    It's not exactly the Int. Marketing dream is it?
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    • I started trading in 2002.
      For the first 9 months, I was very profitable using a very simple system that included trend line breaks & bounces, support & and resistance breaks & bounce, 1-2-3 patterns and pivot points.

      My forex trading was paying my bills and there was cash in the bank account at the end of the month.

      Then I started spending time on forums; added a bunch of indicators to my system and forgot that simplicity was making me money. Soon my account was completely wiped out and back to the 8-5 I went.

      A simple system and money management can make you money in forex. The worst thing you can do is to add a bunch of indicators to your system.

      The best thing you can do it to learn trading patterns like the ones mentioned above and you will do find. Forget the indicators with the little red or green lights that tell when to buy or sell. The people who move the market don't use any of that crap.
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    • My friend there is no easy money. You have to work hard and smart to make comfortable living whether you are doing job or running your business (even int mrktng). I am a full time int marketer for the last 4 years and always keep adding new ways to make money and forex trading will be one of them.
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  • Forex need a big investment to make a certain amount of profit. As a beginner you can learn basics to intermediate level from Babypips
    You better to watch some video in Youtube. I have seen many tutorials.

    Good luck!
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  • Good luck. In forex like in IM you'll encounter many people selling "get rich quick" things, but you can also find a lot of free info online.
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  • Hello Everyone,

    This is my first post and I am glad that I can find something to contribute about Forex which is one of my passions. Please excuse my long post.

    I have been trading live and paper trading for about 7 years. I haven't lost even one account so far and that might itself be an achievement. However, Forex is a game of taking calculated risks and if you cannot pull the trigger with real money and keep in total control during the trade, you will never succeed.

    I personally have read hundreds of Forex trading books, tested hundreds of system and at one time even developed software for Forex Traders. (which I could not unfortunately continue as it was a one man operation and taking a toll on my trading.)

    One advise I can give for those who want to trade forex is that the market is a place of complete contradictions.

    You can have a poor system, yet a proper risk reward ratio can have you quite ahead in the game, while a damn good system cranking out pips regularly can have one loss that can wipe out the equity.
    I have seen fancy indicators fail and the age old support/resistance work like a charm. There are manual trading systems that are making money just as many as trade robots. Choose your poison wisely and stick to it.

    Dont be fixated on indicators, pip counting and neglect money management and discipline.

    A final contradiction : Forex isnt that hard, usually the simpler you keep things,more likely you are to succeed. However, if you have traded live with your money, you will be familiar with that churning feeling in your stomach telling you that you need to shoot that guy who says that Forex is easy.

    Systems are like a glove, they fit the personality of the trader. There is no magic system, the promised land has a difficult road, but the journey is worthwhile.

    IF you are still standing after 3 years of failing, and if you are willing to still go ahead, you will make it. There is just no substitute for experience.

    My recommendation : read the book " Adventures of a Currency Trader" by Rob booker, classics of Forex trading. If you are unable to get it, hit me up offline.
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    • Just thought to share my today's performance in practice account. On one deal eur/usd I just made $4 profit and on other deal of gbp/usd I am currently running $60 loss. I am not closing (on hold)this deal till I come to profit.Let's see tomm. It's really exciting.
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  • Good Question and even better info.

    I've always wondered about Forex but have been too skeptical of all the products (robots & systems) to buy into it. I figured the only solid repeatable method was education/experience.

    Thanks for all the insight and responses on here.
  • You are correct VINCE L!

    Investment institutions would be paying millions of dollars for these robots if they actually worked. Don't you think?

    I've been trading in the Forex market for 1 year and have been patiently learning through education and experience.

    Great posts!!
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    • They do. Look into high frequency trading, these are programmed algorithms (usually in c++) that predict macro market trends and account for almost 70% of investment bank trading.

      P.S. YOU CANNOT BUY THESE ON CLICKBANK
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  • Most of the people I know in FOREX also buy scratch-off lottery tickets and cigarettes.

    unless you have discipline, great market/trading knowledge, better news sources than cnbc and AT LEAST 10k among a few other things it's a suckers game.

    if you really want to get good go study and get your series 3 and 34 licenses. This way you can at least lose other peoples money.
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    • fxcm has the lower spreads than most (spread is the difference between bid and ask). forex trading is also alot of fun and if you are a great trader can earn lots of cash.
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    • I agree. Forex is not a business or even investing. It's speculation which is much the same as gambling.
    • Very true, in almost all instances markets are suit and tie gambling rig. The problem with the industry of Stocks and Financial Markets is that the players are rarely the ones making the money, its the brokers and software companies that sell reactive technical indicators that only tell you what the market has already done, that make all the money. If your serious about getting involved with the stock market, knowledge is key. Empower yourself and you shall have success, unless you have knowledge and insight you are really just gambling.

      At the same time, markets are directly connected to the pulse of finance, so the reality is there is no bigger or more powerful game. Real Estate, Jobs, even network marketing could never even compare on the scale of potential for loss or gain.

      If your interested in markets, and want to save yourself 20 - 100k and 5+ years pain and frustration. I recommend you look up a methodology called "Trading Harmonically". Sorry can't post links yet, I'm still a little new here, but that should definitely get you off in the right direction.
  • forex trading is not a place for the faint-hearted that's for sure. probably the best way to trade the market is to let the pro handle your account (if you're a newb). the second best way is to learn trading yourself but make damn sure that you learn from the best/profitable ones who have genuine interest to help you out. otherwise you will be the feeder of fresh cash to the experienced traders.

    the pool is not shark infested it's t-rex infested and they certainly know no mercy IMHO.
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    • you said absolutely correct.
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  • The first method that I was going to try to earn money online was Forex. Thank God that I didn't start and got into IM. And we are talking about one and half month back here.

    I am now happy with IM and with the fact that I've earned $139 so far with affiliate marketing. I would probably have lost much more than $139 with Forex, I'm not good at pulling the trigger.

    Hope you good luck man, Forex always looked interesting, but I don't think it's for me.
  • Forex is all about feelings; it's fundamentally what moves the market. You need to understand most people do trade using their underlying emotions. That's why "robots" and "technical indicators" can make it a brutal experience.
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    • Sounds like the female forex you're on about there... :p

      I do agree, and I think that Aldovacano is also right, and
      i'm sure he was referring more about the need to remain
      emotionally aloof (in a trade) than anything else.

      :-)
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    • Couldnt the most successful forex traders around here just set up a membership site so we can trade alongside them ?? I would subscribe to that.........no seriously.....
  • as a small fish you dont want to teach yourself to swim alongside the sharks you wonna get swallowed! all the same resilience in everything you undertake pays you handsomely after sometime.
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  • if you like to gambling play poker forex is much less profitable
  • Hi guys,
    I'd like to buy this forex program.From the official site it is hard to believe that such an annual profit of 13,000% is possible by using the Stock Assault 2.0 software, Whenever I read such a bold claim my scamometer device immediately raises a red flag. Is Stock Assault scam or not? Did anyone of you buy it and make profits?

    Thanks and Happy New Year:-)
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      Hi CDE-IM, your question would perhaps be more appropriately asked, and is certainly more likely to attract responses, in its own thread in the "Reviews" part of the forum than in this thread.
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  • Thanks for the charts Alexa. Very interesting money management. On chart 1 your original stop looks to be 70 pips (assumimg below 3) and you took profits at 45 pips by pyramiding out early. So your risk/reward is opposite to what most preach but your high win/loss ratio makes it profitable.

    I'm off to do some back testing.

    Happy New Year!
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      On chart 1 my original stop is 102.32 (the level of the 3-point) with an entry long at 102.65, so the stop-loss is 33 pips (that's 102.65 - 102.32), not 70.

      Happy New Year!
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  • Great tips found here, i would like to thanks for that,

    Secondly, even i am looking forward to go into this business, so i would be glad if someone here who is already with good experience and will to can offer training for forex trading ?

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    D
  • I tried forex before. Won $1000, but lost $2500.. Now i'm out. Actually you can go to forex forum to get lot of information.
  • I heard about fellow that were generating thousands each month Trading Forex. Just beware not to lose your pants in there when you're starting out.
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    • what you said is true. in forex you either go for high probability trade or go for high risk/reward ratio trade. there is nothing in between. the first one refers to the chance that a trade will turn out to be profitable; the higher the better. the latter might have a lower chance but when you strike gold you might recover your losses and even more.

      yes. more accurately emotion/bias. but there's one more thing...calculated risk. robots do have the edge in trading but it's not the typical robots we see everyday in the CB. no individual trader can afford to lease this kind of robot let alone buying it

      the mother of all technical indicator is the candlestick because 1) it is used by everyone across the trading world (fx, futures, options) alone or with other mathematical/statistical indicator(s) 2) it simplified price history readings. and the book that will feed new trader's appetite would be Stephen Bigalow's Profitable Candlestick Trading.

      true. it can be used to increase capital fairly quickly but the opposite is also true. that is why the 10% rule applies here (do not use 10% of your total cash in bank and then of that 10% use only 10% to 15% so you don't run out of capital quickly).
  • Bill Poulous's affiliate program was paying $700.00 commission for a Forex Profit Maximizer trading couse...with "limited" offering.... I wish I had known there was so much interest on the forum for Forex Trading.

    Scared to death of this way to make money myself but if you choose to go with Forex stick your finger in the water to see if it's hot before jumping in.
  • Just my 2 cents.....

    I don't know anyone who has consistently made a living trading the FOREX. Some have had good months and some even had a decent year, but noone has made it their full time job for an extended period of time. I have a friend who is CPA and he studies harder than anyone I know and he couldn't make a consistent living trading the Forex after years of trading. He dragged me to a Forex meeting group he attended bi-weekly. This group was full of bright people, engineers, professors, etc.. and they couldn't make it work. I think someone mentioned it earlier in this thread but I believe individual traders make up less than 20% of daily Forex volume. The rest is made by large institutions. These guys move the market along with major news events. You can study all the Fibionacci (spelling?) charts and you might get in on a major trend every once in a while. But I think you either have to be a damn genius or completely removed from emotion to be a successful Forex trader.
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    • Yes. We are a group of forex traders with more than 10 years experience in forex market and we can say that we make the living from Forex. All you need to do is to find a system and stuck in it. Don't search everyday another system, indicator and so on. Practice for at least 6 months, respect the money management rules (don't try to earn more then 15% per month), learn to control the emotions and you will make a living from that and do not believe in automated systems like robots. Another important thing is that no one is moving the market in the direction wanted...this is another rule...: you need to follow the market, not vice-versa
  • Forex is extremely competitive now, you need outstanding keywords to rank. Adsense keywords are definitely the go as many forex keywords now command over $10 a click.
  • Fore Trading is not as easy as running an online IM business. You need to be very careful at your moves.

    Best of Luck.
  • Great Thread, it should be a WSO..!

    A couple of things:

    You can read all the book and learn all the tactics and theories but, there is more to foreign currencies than pieces of paper, there are people and lifestyles there as well.

    Get to know the economies of the currencies that your are trading, learn what they sell, how they function and how the people make a living.

    A lot of the countries have their news in English, just google it...

    Also,

    There is a FREE, quick-reading daily e-letter on world currencies and economic trends that comes out every morning Monday to Friday:

    The Daily Pfennig

    You can subscribe to get the news letter in your email on the Left Side of the page.
  • You are misleading people. If there is one thing in the internet that has a bigger failure rate than IM is in Forex. Don't touch that if you don't know what you are doing, have a decent capital and are willing to expend the next 4 years (if you survive the first 6 months) "learning" the ropes.

    Only among the registered brokers with the SEC (Security Exchange Commission) , the report failure rate of retail day traders is over 93% last year. If you want to start some Internet business don't be a fool and look somewhere else.

    However, if you want to explore a desperate niche to sell ebooks, affiliate links, or etc. Forex is in the top 3 list. Just my 2 cents.

    DH
  • If you're willing to devote the next few years of your life to studying forex, and have a decent amount of capital to start off with, then yes this could be for you. If you want to see a return any time soon, then no.

    Think about it - You wouldn't get a job as a city broker without years of experience to back it up, so why would you suddenly be qualified to trade forex with no experience?
  • FX is a great way to make money. But you need to make sure you are getting the proper training. You need to understand both fundamentals (where the market is, politics, current events) and the technicals (understanding how to read charts, support, resistance).

    And having a trading plan in advance is going to be the difference if you make it or break it. The problem with most FX traders is that because the potential for gain is so great they tend to overleverage. Meaning...they risk too much. Do not risk more than 2% of your account balance on any one trade and dont risk more than 3% of your account balance at any one time between multiple trades.

    ALWAYS USE A STOP LOSS based on strong technical analysis. Losing trades is part of the game. Just make you calculate the losses as part of the game.

    DEALING DESKS - Most of you reading this have NO IDEA how deep the rabbit hole goes when it comes to the dealing desks, the retail companies you have your FX accounts setup. They do control the price quotes you are being given when trading. Most dealing desks realize that 90% of FX traders lose money so when you go long GBP/JPY they are going short GBP/JPY - If you start winning too much...they tend to get pissed off and can manipulate your prices forcing you to hit your stops. And unless you have a $5MM bank account and can trade directly to a large bank like Deutsche Bank (NOT the DB retail desk) you will have to trade the a retail platform. I HIGHLY suggest FX Solutions. They are the only company I have worked with in the retail FX market that has proven themselves honest.

    Hope this helps

    Michael
  • I have experience doing it and have done very well but BE VERY CAREFUL and paper trade first.
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  • I've an experience of trading in financial markets of 8 years.The thing which sets apart forex is very high leverage and a Lot of misinformation and false promises.Just learn by reading some good books and don't be misguided by people who advise you to use a leverage of 50:1 or 100:1
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  • If you try to do forex trading you have to be very careful and keep track of the values all the time, you can get rich with it but also lose lots of money.
    Don't invest too much in the beginning and watch how it works out for you.

    Cheers
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  • Hi, It took me 3 years to finally master forex trading & it was a very bumpy, often stressful ride. It is NOT easy and there is a very high failure rate as with most online ventures. The biggest problem is people fall for the "get rich quick hype" & the $99 robots. Its a business, it takes a lot of hard work patience & discipline but for the few who succeed it can be highly profitable. There's a link to my free ebook below for those who are interested BUT you will not get rich quickly. If that is what you are looking for then forex is not the solution, best of luck, Marc

    whoops I must have made a mistake with my signature! Anyone who needs any help, advice or the book, send me a message
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    Forex Trading to make money

    I have just joined iforex and from tommorow I will be starting their training for one week. I was wondering if anyone out here can throw light on forex trading. Are you guys also using forex trading as one of your ways to make money online. Please share your opinions. Thanks