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So EZA is accepting badly-spun articles now?

by markowe
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I thought their standards were a little more rigorous, but I was just browsing EZA to get some ideas (which I haven't really done there before) and realised that the standard of many articles is startlingly poor. I mean, not to single out any one author or anything, but what's with this: Food Poisoning in Pregnancy for example?

I mean, "It will get dangerous when it comes in speak to with meals products this kind of as vegetables," and "So, early detection in the disease is often a should. Currently pregnant women are 20% a lot more vulnerable to Listeriosis." to quote but two 'pearls'. So why are we taking the trouble to write quality articles for EZA then, when they happily publish this kind of thing? Should I lower my standards accordingly..?
#accepting #articles #badly spun #badlyspun #eza
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by markowe View Post

    So why are we taking the trouble to write quality articles for EZA then, when they happily publish this kind of thing?
    They don't, normally.

    One or two get through the net. They must be training new staff. :rolleyes:

    God, it's dreadful. It's depressing. :rolleyes: :p

    Report it, please, otherwise it will sit there. It really helps to report ludicrous junk like that, and the more people who do so, the better.
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    • Profile picture of the author kuzmo1
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      They don't, normally.

      One or two get through the net. They must be training new staff. :rolleyes:
      I have recently had articles turned down by EZA because I have mentioned a product name in the title. Yet, on other occassions, they accept the same type of article with no problems.

      So I agree they must be training new staff or someone over there is just having a bad day!
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  • Profile picture of the author powerspike
    I think the new author system is similar to what they use in house, if there are no red or green underlines they are extremely likely to pass the article...

    i have reported a few myself over the last couple of weeks, but more seem to be appearing
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Duly reported I am glad this is not the norm. There has to be at least ONE decent article directory out there...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    I am very interested to know how you know that article has been spun?

    I love it when people make such bold statements.

    You know, it isn't only English speaking writers who submit articles to article directories?

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      I am very interested to know how you know that article has been spun?

      I love it when people make such bold statements.

      You know, it isn't only English speaking writers who submit articles to article directories?

      Chris

      Hey Chris

      What language would you say that is haha definately looks like its been jumbled up and thrown back together any which way.

      but your right it could be from a non english speaker I know a few that speak like that here in thailand and they are ENGLISH haha

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    • Profile picture of the author webfighter
      Saw his another article, and from what it seems - either he's a good friend in EZA staff or there's some flaw in the way articles are accepted (or declined).

      The pattern here's that the articles are "quite" longer than the usual ones that get submitted to EZA.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      I am very interested to know how you know that article has been spun?

      I love it when people make such bold statements.

      You know, it isn't only English speaking writers who submit articles to article directories?

      Chris
      Sorry Chris but if you read this again...

      It will get dangerous when it comes in speak to with meals products this kind of as vegetables
      This looks very much like the crap spam a lot of my blogs get. Though there's a possibilty this was written by a non English speaker, having seen so many badly spun articles I find it almost impossible this isn't one of the same.

      It also seems very strange that this person can spell perfectly well but has absolutely no concept of how to put the perfect spelling in even a remotely recognisable sentence. I'd expect the non english speaker with this little grasp of the language to be struggling with spelling words too.

      I love it when people make such bold statements.
      Not meaning to get at you Chris but the more I look at the article the bolder your statement gets.

      Or in another language "Chris saying don't you article bigger announcement has vegetables"
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    • Profile picture of the author profitsforall
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      I am very interested to know how you know that article has been spun?

      I love it when people make such bold statements.

      You know, it isn't only English speaking writers who submit articles to article directories?

      Chris
      Regardless of whether it was spun or written by human - cr*p is cr*p and should have been filtered out

      I suspect that there is so much of this swamping the human reviewers that a fewl smaller lumps get through the filters.

      Perhaps it looked like a yuletide log as it floated by and didn't get detected Wouldn't have passed the taste test though.

      Apologies for those with a delicate disposition.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cantbedone!
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      I am very interested to know how you know that article has been spun?

      I love it when people make such bold statements.

      You know, it isn't only English speaking writers who submit articles to article directories?

      Chris
      If you look closely, it's pretty obvious. If you've used a spinner before, you can probably pick it out. In this case it sticks out like a sore thumb in my opinion. I would have made the same assumption that the OP did. The phrasing, for instance, the helping verbs are using obvious but non relevant synonyms. Bad automated spinners do this notoriously. People who are not very familiar with english would make mistakes but genarally don't seem to make these same kind of mistakes.

      Of course it's quite possible that it was posted by someone who speaks poor english but it just doesn't seem so to me. Then again, I've been wrong before...
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    There are whole sections of that article that make no sense. It is terrible. How do you report an article on EZA?
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  • Profile picture of the author mgpweb
    I hate writing articles, but its something that brings in a lot of leads so I always do it and I make sure the articles are all interesting and original. To think articles like this one is getting through is so wrong, how much easier would it be to just spin someone elses content and then get it listed, but no I will never lower my standards.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    No, it's definitely spun Let's say I deal with language and non-native speakers a lot, and this does not have the hallmarks of non-native grammar and syntax. You can tell it's spun by the poor use of synonyms in particular:

    "Washing and cleaning your hands having a medicated soap can be a ought to." (was: must - and 'a' instead of 'an'. And what's with 'can be'!)

    "So, early detection in the disease is often a should." (erm, same again).

    In fact, this is not 'spun' manually, which if done well (quite hard, just looking at one of my attempts now) can be fine. This is just 'auto-spun' and is poooor.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Sure - it's definitely spun. It has countless classic signs.

      - "Anticipating mothers" instead of "expecting mothers"
      - "Widespread symptoms" instead of "common symptoms"
      - "Except the situation" instead of "unless the situation"
      - "The lead to of food poisoning" instead of "the cause of food poisoning" ...

      ... and many others, just in the first paragraph. All classic non-idiomatic text produced by an automated, non-human process according to which "anticipating" and "expecting", "widespread" and "common", "except" and "unless", and "lead to" and "cause" are deemed interchangeable. :rolleyes:

      Appalling. :p
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Have you ever spun an article, Alexa? Do you currently?

        I don't, but so many people seem to preach it like it's a second religion.

        It may be easy but is it EFFECTIVE?

        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Sure - it's definitely spun. It has countless classic signs.

        - "Anticipating mothers" instead of "expecting mothers"
        - "Widespread symptoms" instead of "common symptoms"
        - "Except the situation" instead of "unless the situation"
        - "The lead to of food poisoning" instead of "the cause of food poisoning" ...

        ... and many others, just in the first paragraph. All classic non-idiomatic text produced by an automated, non-human process according to which "anticipating" and "expecting", "widespread" and "common", "except" and "unless", and "lead to" and "cause" are deemed interchangeable. :rolleyes:

        Appalling. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          Have you ever spun an article, Alexa?
          I have, actually. A couple of years ago I spun quite a lot of articles, until I realised that making them intelligible was taking me longer than writing a new one.

          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          Do you currently?

          I don't, but so many people seem to preach it like it's a second religion.
          Nooooo ... yes, they do; but (this is going to sound really disrespectful ) most of them, when you ask them why, say something to do with backlinks, and those are people who honestly don't appreciate that the backlink on a spun article is identical to the backlink on a syndicated article. Some people honestly imagine that the backlink on a syndicated copy of an article, in Google's supplemental index, is somehow "worth less" than the one on a spun version in the main index (not that so many spun versions get into the main index as people expect, anyway, but leave that aside for the moment). And then there are some more who don't quite appreciate what "duplicate content" really is, and believe in a "duplicate content penalty" and imagine that they'll benefit from spinning because of it (they might benefit from being spun, but their articles won't! Oops, did I say that out loud? ), and so on and so forth.

          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          It may be easy but is it EFFECTIVE?
          I think it can be, yes ... it can have some benefits. Not the ones that most people claim for it, but some benefits. It's incredibly time-consuming, though, and needs really advanced editing skills.

          It's certainly not for me.

          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Sorry Chris but if you read this again...
          It will get dangerous when it comes in speak to with meals products this kind of as vegetables
          This looks very much like the crap spam a lot of my blogs get. Though there's a possibilty this was written by a non English speaker, having seen so many badly spun articles I find it almost impossible this isn't one of the same.
          Yes indeed ... that's classic unedited spinning.

          Just a bit distressing that it got through the net at EZA.
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          • Profile picture of the author EmilyToo
            You just got a belly laugh out loud from me!!! That frighted my cat!!! He spun out of the room!!! Wheeee!
            Eeiish, no really - I haven't burst out laughing like that for a while - thank you girl, you rock.
            Been reading thru Warriors for TWO hours now, trying to find intelligent posts on good article directories to submit to, phew.
            Think I'll just go with EZA, Go, and Buzzle. And go start my first Hub.

            <grin - still giggling...>
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      • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
        Wow Alexa,

        Do you speak any other languages? or just English and Spinish

        I could see it was spun, but was baffled by some of the wording to try and understand the original meaning. You nailed it.

        I wonder if there is an auto spinner translation Niche


        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Sure - it's definitely spun. It has countless classic signs.

        - "Anticipating mothers" instead of "expecting mothers"
        - "Widespread symptoms" instead of "common symptoms"
        - "Except the situation" instead of "unless the situation"
        - "The lead to of food poisoning" instead of "the cause of food poisoning" ...

        ... and many others, just in the first paragraph. All classic non-idiomatic text produced by an automated, non-human process according to which "anticipating" and "expecting", "widespread" and "common", "except" and "unless", and "lead to" and "cause" are deemed interchangeable. :rolleyes:

        Appalling. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
          Gosh that's a really bad one. I actually find them to be quite strict normally (which is obviously a good thing) so it definitely must be one that slipped through the net. A friend of mine that's starting out with EZA gets quite a few of his articles rejected due to grammar & sentence structure problems (and his articles are much better than that one).
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Have you looked at the article without reading it, It does look impressive in a 'lorem ipsum' kind of a way.

    Paragraphs bullet points and lenghty ..... Do you think it is possible someone look at spelling and layout and just accpeted it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Have you looked at the article without reading it, It does look impressive in a 'lorem ipsum' kind of a way.

      Paragraphs bullet points and lenghty ..... Do you think it is possible someone look at spelling and layout and just accpeted it?
      Exactly my point.

      How can a non English speaker spell so well, lay the article out well then jumble all the perfect spelling up into unintelligible and quite frankly very amusing sentences.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Do you think it is possible someone look at spelling and layout and just accpeted it?
      Surely ...

      They certainly didn't read the text and accept it, anyway. Maybe their tea was going cold in the next room ... or their champagne getting warm?
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I am waiting for the day when EZA becomes a respectable directory again.

      And that's all I'm saying on this nauseating subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    You guys are very easy to troll :p

    Personally I don't know who's worse, the 'editor' that approved it or the one that submitted it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      You guys are very easy to troll :p

      Personally I don't know who's worse, the 'editor' that approved it or the one that submitted it.

      Chris
      The editor should be shot and the submitter should be hung.

      Two less idiots in the world to worry about.
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      • Profile picture of the author profitsforall
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        The editor should be shot and the submitter should be hung.

        Two less idiots in the world to worry about.
        Really hope you don't have access to guns and ammunition.

        I doubt there would be very many folks left in the world based on your definition of idiocy

        (looks around nervously, as not sure i'd make it past Mr Wagenheim's stupidity filter)
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        The editor should be shot and the submitter should be hung.

        Two less idiots in the world to worry about.
        LOL. And a Merry Christmas to you, too, Steven.

        By the way, that should be 'hanged' (not hung) and 'fewer' (not less). What do you think this is, EZA?


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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          LOL. And a Merry Christmas to you, too, Steven.

          By the way, that should be 'hanged' (not hung) and 'fewer' (not less). What do you think this is, EZA?


          Frank
          Frank, hung is in reference to that old joke...

          Guy: "He should be hung."
          Gal: Oh, he was

          And less is in reference to that Air Supply song:

          "Two Less Lonely People In The World"

          Just wanted to clarify.
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Frank, hung is in reference to that old joke...

            Guy: "He should be hung."
            Gal: Oh, he was

            And less is in reference to that Air Supply song:

            "Two Less Lonely People In The World"

            Just wanted to clarify.
            Steven, no need to clarify - I was just joshing.

            But that Air Supply song title has always irritated me.


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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

              Steven, no need to clarify - I was just joshing.

              But that Air Supply song title has always irritated me.


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              The song itself irritated me a lot more than the title.
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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

              But that Air Supply song title has always irritated me.

              All Air Supply songs have always irritated me...

              I know that they say the quickest way to a girl's heart is to listen to the music she likes listening to, but I would rather disembowel myself than to listen to Air Supply.
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              • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
                Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                ...but I would rather disembowel myself than to listen to Air Supply.
                Which, by coincidence, is how much of their music sounds.


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      • Profile picture of the author donhx
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        The editor should be shot and the submitter should be hung.

        Two less idiots in the world to worry about.
        It's gone now. With their volume, bad things sneak though. To their credit they remove them quickly. I have reported a large number of spam pages there in the past and it was gone with the hour.
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        • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
          Originally Posted by donhx View Post

          It's gone now. With their volume, bad things sneak though. To their credit they remove them quickly. I have reported a large number of spam pages there in the past and it was gone with the hour.
          Then someone should report that nonsense Terryd just linked right above you, because that article is just rubbish. So bad I can't even tell if it's spun.
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          • Profile picture of the author donhx
            Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

            Then someone should report that nonsense Terryd just linked right above you, because that article is just rubbish. So bad I can't even tell if it's spun.

            Go ahead and report it and see if they respond. Actually this is a very common type of article written by a person whose first language is not English. They almost make sense, but not quite. But it is not spam, and there may be something in the content for someone. I have seen far worse in many places.

            What I loved was his final line; "Muhammad Adnan Elahi is s superb writer. Writing is his infatuation and sharing knowledge is his passion." You gotta love the cojones.
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              Originally Posted by donhx View Post

              What I loved was his final line; "Muhammad Adnan Elahi is s superb writer.
              Indeed.

              It's the "s" that really does it for me.
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              • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
                Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                Indeed.

                It's the "s" that really does it for me.
                Come on Alexa, obviously such a s superb writer did that for the emphasis.s. It's all in the technique.
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    He's gone, along with his articles. Move along now, there's nothing more to see here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Good point Markowe.

      Some time ago I reported an author at EZA who was posting plagiarized material (some of it mine). Within days all of his 400+ articles were removed from EZA.

      Some slip through the initial process - but that doesn't mean they are carved in stone at EZA.

      Perhaps it's the bad, senseless articles that are responsible for my good articles getting excellent results there! Those folks are not competition.

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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    LOL....

    Stop drinking the kool-aid and start watching what they do instead...

    Any system is only as good as its weakest link, and it has long been known that some of EZA's editors have the common-sense level of a six-year-old.
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    The article seems to be gone now so apparently this thread took care of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by AntonioSeegars1 View Post

      I can't be sure that they accept badly spun articles but I wouldn't test the theory.

      Why not? Just try it with your non-primary account. LOL

      I submit well-written articles to them, and they reject them based on the silliest reasons.

      So why shouldn't they accept the silliest articles based on even less credible reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickBrianONeill
    Just a couple of points.

    1 - The article in question has been removed.
    2 - If an article is a couple of years old, the approval process back then was much less stringent.
    3 - They are nearing the end of HAHD #5 (one hundred articles in 100 days contest) and they have several thousand articles to approve every day, so for the next week some really quick scanning is going on.
    4 - EZA is run by Humans, and people make mistakes!

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by CoolAromas View Post

      Just a couple of points.

      1 - The article in question has been removed.
      2 - If an article is a couple of years old, the approval process back then was much less stringent.
      3 - They are nearing the end of HAHD #5 (one hundred articles in 100 days contest) and they have several thousand articles to approve every day, so for the next week some really quick scanning is going on.
      4 - EZA is run by Humans, and people make mistakes!

      Hope this helps.
      Hey, we know that but when this slips through the net....

      It will get dangerous when it comes in speak to with meals products this kind of as vegetables
      ....I'd say it's not even being read at all. That entire article couldn't have actually been read.
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      Originally Posted by CoolAromas View Post

      Just a couple of points.

      1 - The article in question has been removed.
      It's a shame they didn't remove the other articles too, one of which includes this helpful sentence:

      "This time is of panic, so may perhaps be you fall short to take the right choice at that time, so this will be very good to find out about information healing like a concept and implementation."
      Originally Posted by CoolAromas View Post

      2 - If an article is a couple of years old, the approval process back then was much less stringent.
      The article that quote was taken from was published in August 10.
      Originally Posted by CoolAromas View Post

      3 - They are nearing the end of HAHD #5 (one hundred articles in 100 days contest) and they have several thousand articles to approve every day, so for the next week some really quick scanning is going on.
      The other two articles there predate this.
      Originally Posted by CoolAromas View Post

      4 - EZA is run by Humans, and people make mistakes!
      Maybe - three times, in the only three articles on this account? My cynical mind suspects that this "author" may be a friend of the person approving his articles.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        Maybe - three times, in the only three articles on this account? My cynical mind suspects that this "author" may be a friend of the person approving his articles.

        I suspect that employees seldom have the same commitment to success as the owner of the biz...

        I suspect that at a certain point, they threw out the grammar test during the hiring process, to make it easier to find employees.

        I suspect that employees were advised to leave common sense at home, but that so many of the employees simply lack it that the management did not have to ask them to leave it at home.
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        Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        Maybe - three times, in the only three articles on this account? My cynical mind suspects that this "author" may be a friend of the person approving his articles.
        Never credit to clever scheming what is likely to be merely gross incompetence.
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        • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
          Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

          Never credit to clever scheming what is likely to be merely gross incompetence.
          I wasn't sure if that was a spun sentence

          But I decided it wasn't
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
            Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

            I wasn't sure if that was a spun sentence
            The spun version goes like this:

            No means prestige to adroit patterning what is predisposed to be wholly 144 cloddishness.
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            • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
              Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

              The spun version goes like this:

              No means prestige to adroit patterning what is predisposed to be wholly 144 cloddishness.
              Ah - that explains it.

              And ............... you have to admire this sentence in the third article:
              "Presume postures in low place positions that best permit physical and visual get in touch with with little ones"

              (I'm in a facetious mood today because I'm snowed in, so "life" has been cancelled)
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        "This time is of panic, so may perhaps be you fall short to take the right choice at that time, so this will be very good to find out about information healing like a concept and implementation."
        I can't help thinking that, to quote one of my literature teachers from school, "the passage arguably loses more than it gains from over-detailed analysis".
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  • Profile picture of the author sierraandmo
    I have had more problems EZA editors than I had with my high school English teacher. I tried to submit an article to them about the benefits of natural skin care products. I discussed ingredients in traditional face lotion, and since they did not know those words they denied my article.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by sierraandmo View Post

      I have had more problems EZA editors than I had with my high school English teacher. I tried to submit an article to them about the benefits of natural skin care products. I discussed ingredients in traditional face lotion, and since they did not know those words they denied my article.

      Did they actually say that?!

      You should have responded with a link to dictionary.com
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  • Profile picture of the author tandren544
    I laughed out loud... how hard is it to spin articles by hand, seriously?
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    There are only three articles for that author because the rest got deleted for some reason (whistles and looks angelic), I expect the rest to disappear shortly, though they WERE good for a laugh.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      There are only three articles for that author because the rest got deleted for some reason (whistles and looks angelic), I expect the rest to disappear shortly, though they WERE good for a laugh.

      If only EZA would take such tips as a hint to improve from within, we would not have to poke so much fun at their expense...

      Unfortunately for now, I am not holding my breath...
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      • Profile picture of the author KenJ
        "scintillate, scintillate, diminutive, celebrity "

        (Spun version of twinkle, twinkle, little star)

        I have nothing else to say on this subject!

        Kenj
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        • Profile picture of the author EmilyToo
          Errm, ah, no actually, it's:

          Scintillate, scintillate, globule vivific.
          Fain would I fathom thy nature, specific.
          Loftily poised in the ether, capacious,
          Strongly resembling a gem, carbonacious.

          Yup Yup Yup. and I learned that 40 years ago... !
          Interesting what sticks in the memory, no?
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          • Profile picture of the author markowe
            Originally Posted by EmilyToo View Post

            Errm, ah, no actually, it's:

            Scintillate, scintillate, globule vivific.
            Fain would I fathom thy nature, specific.
            Loftily poised in the ether, capacious,
            Strongly resembling a gem, carbonacious.

            Yup Yup Yup. and I learned that 40 years ago... !
            Interesting what sticks in the memory, no?
            That's great, never heard that! But then I wasn't around 40 years ago

            I am once again deeply impressed by the English language. I wonder how many of today's 'article writers' can even UNDERSTAND the above, never mind write something like it Especially our friend Steve whassisname.
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          • Profile picture of the author KenJ
            Originally Posted by EmilyToo View Post

            Errm, ah, no actually, it's:

            Scintillate, scintillate, globule vivific.
            Fain would I fathom thy nature, specific.
            Loftily poised in the ether, capacious,
            Strongly resembling a gem, carbonacious.

            Yup Yup Yup. and I learned that 40 years ago... !
            Interesting what sticks in the memory, no?
            I had lost the original - My version still illustrates the point. Thanks for posting the correct version.
            I just remebered I had nothing more to say on this subject.

            Kenj
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          • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
            Originally Posted by EmilyToo View Post

            Errm, ah, no actually, it's:

            Scintillate, scintillate, globule vivific.
            Fain would I fathom thy nature, specific.
            Loftily poised in the ether, capacious,
            Strongly resembling a gem, carbonacious.

            Yup Yup Yup. and I learned that 40 years ago... !
            Interesting what sticks in the memory, no?
            If you'd made this post a week ago, I might have been able to persuade my choir to sing that at our annual Christmas Carol's in the pub (conveniently located next door to the church where we practice). Maybe next year.
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    • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      There are only three articles for that author because the rest got deleted for some reason (whistles and looks angelic), I expect the rest to disappear shortly, though they WERE good for a laugh.
      I expect the members of the editorial staff responsible for this "laugh" to "disappear" too.
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  • Profile picture of the author pappyy3
    IMO- Article spinners are the main reason why there is so much rubbish out there in the internet
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    This goes to show that the editorial staff are humans.

    I'm not surprised at all. This kind of thing will not make me or any reasonable person to take Article Marketing for granted.

    Quality has a better reward than crap or fluff irrespective of whoever edits the articles. I'm a sticker to quality despite what other people are doing.

    Amongst the twelve, there might be a Judas.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
    If you browse through ezine you will find a lot of really bad articles, spun or not. Most are total rubbish just rehashing stuff people searching for content already know. Yes, once accepted they get indexed in Google, provide a backlink, etc. But they more often than not link to websites filled with more of the same junk. What did Capote say, that's not writing that's typing...

    These people then complain, "I'm getting hundreds of views on Ezine and my blog is ranking well for all my keywords but I'm hardly making any money!!! wah-wah"

    The view-count won't tell you who read to the end and who thought "aghh! more spam!"

    Mind you, there are some terrific articles that provide great information. I read a few and then visited the website of a guy promoting a clickbank ebook on ________ (I won't say what it is). Needless to say, by the time I finished his work buying the ebook was totally unnecessary!

    When you submit to Ezine, remember it's not about great writing so much as great marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author brad91
    What if you "spin" your own article yourself? Re-write it with the same main purpose but with the intent to submit to other article directories? So you don't have duplicate articles everywhere.

    When I first started seeing those software spun articles I thought I was back in Taiwan in a taxi cab. I didn't know at the time there were "spinners" that did that. I just thought the articles were horribly written.
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  • Profile picture of the author aj113
    In my recent experience there are more spun articles being accepted at EZA than originals. Just go to the home page and read the first 5 - 10 articles listed there.

    In my view, there is nothing wrong with spinning per se, it is spinning badly that lowers ths standards. A badly spun article is no different to a badly written article in as much as the end result is similar - uncomfortable to read and not likely to have the desired effect.

    What disturbs me is that an alleged 'quality' site like EZA has so much garbage on offer. Ultmately this could lead to a generally lower PR and consequently all of the genuinely huigh quality articles at EZA losing their effectiveness.
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      Originally Posted by aj113 View Post

      In my view, there is nothing wrong with spinning per se, it is spinning badly that lowers ths standards.
      What I don't understand, and I said this on another thread, is WHY anyone spins articles.

      Why waste time spinning when you could either submit the original or write a new article.

      When I write an article I choose the exact words I want to use, depending on the context and exactly how I want the reader to interpret the article.

      Changing the article by using synonyms changes the way the article reads and often changes its exact meaning. It makes a readable article clunky and laborious.

      I don't understand why anyone wastes time doing that - and I'm still hoping someone can explain, because I truly don't "get it".

      Why not use the time to write a new, correctly structured and easy to read article?
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      • Profile picture of the author aj113
        Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        What I don't understand, and I said this on another thread, is WHY anyone spins articles.
        1. It's faster than writing new content.
        2. If you do it well you can det your article accepted to high pr directories.

        Changing the article by using synonyms changes the way the article reads and often changes its exact meaning. It makes a readable article clunky and laborious.
        Not when it's done right.

        Why not use the time to write a new, correctly structured and easy to read article?
        Because rewriting is 10 times faster.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by aj113 View Post

          1. It's faster than writing new content.
          I don't believe this. Not if you want the result to have any real value/benefit.

          Originally Posted by aj113 View Post

          If you do it well you can det your article accepted to high pr directories.
          But not as easily as if you submit syndicated content instead of spun content.

          You say it as if it's a great plus of some sort: if you spin well enough you can get into good directories?! I can get into good directories without spinning at all. And so could you, if you only tried.

          Directories don't require original content. You only think they do.

          (Apart from "Buzzle" which no professional article marketer I know uses anyway).

          And anyway, what are "High PR Directories"?!

          Do you mean like EZA, which people imagine is "PR6"? It isn't "PR6": its home page is PR6. Your article doesn't normally go on its home page, it goes on a PR-0 page.

          Do you imagine that in a "PR-3 directory" and a "PR-4 directory" and a "PR-5 directory" that your articles aren't on their own PR-0 pages?

          Maybe you don't test these things much? I'm only asking ...

          Sorry to let the inconvenient facts get in the way of an interesting theory, and all that. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author jaxpot
    I recently had an article on Eza that was "spun" very well! It does not look like it was spun automatically with SW. It was re-written very well. But it was clearly my article.

    I have seen this done several times on my articles, but this particular one was frustrating to me. My article was ranking #6 on Google (with no backlinking efforts)... and when this "copied" article came out, it started ranking higher than mine and pushed me off page 1.

    I reported it to Eza, and they agreed with me and removed the copied article within a couple days!!! * And I'm back on page one again :-)

    So reporting these things to Eza support can be effective, at least in my (limited) experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    It's gone but still cached on google if you want it:

    Food Poisoning in Pregnancy

    I thought it was funny. I've seen worse. I followed the link to his site and the writing there is awful too. Similar auto-spun style.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Most of mine were accepted, so yeah.

    Too bad that probably pigeon-holed me into never getting platinum status..
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    I recently posted a job for an article writer and they sent me a heap of ezinearticle links as examples of their work, I don't even think they are spun but they are terrible non the less and I don't know how they are accepted:

    Living Room Sofas: Go For the Right One

    ".......go for the modern one but stick to the sober rules"
    ".......Whiten up your thoughts before choosing the fabric"
    "And if you have some kids, then you know very well that you have to treat them perpetually."
    " The maintenance of such sofa sets is very difficult and they loss their freshness before the expected time."

    I mean seriously, I've had articles rejected but this makes the ones that I got rejected look like pulitzer material......
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  • Profile picture of the author PhoebeSmellyCat
    Originally Posted by markowe View Post

    "It will get dangerous when it comes in speak to with meals products this kind of as vegetables,"
    Dibs on the T-shirt!

    It could be the next, "All Your Base Are Belong to Us."


    I've never spun an article so I don't know how one looks, but to me, it looks more like a foreign article translated by one of those online translators.
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