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13 years ago

Hi, Mobiusman,

I'm curious to know is the ebook you posted free and what sites did you use to post it on.

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mobiusman 13 years ago

Originally Posted by NEW-GUY

Hi, Mobiusman,

I'm curious to know is the ebook you posted free and what sites did you use to post it on.

Thank's,
Stephen.

It was a free book on a collection of Persistence Quotes. You can see it here. Enjoy.
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GreenMachine

13 years ago

Congrats... List building may not take very long... but maintaining a quality list more tedious... Still... you are on your way and good luck with monetizing your list.

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Steven Fullman

13 years ago

I love sarcasm

It still adds up to 1000+ subs by this time next year, though (presuming the sign-up rate remains steady for the next 12 months...which, obviously, it will)

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King Shiloh

Banned 13 years ago

Congratulations!

You can build your list fast especially if you are offering irresistible freebies.

However, you have to test the list so that you can separate the freebie seekers on the list from the buying-cum-hungry people on the list.

After all, the money that all of us are looking for is said to be in the list.

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Rsberg

13 years ago

Originally Posted by King Shiloh

Congratulations!

However, you have to test the list so that you can separate the freebie seekers on the list from the buying-cum-hungry people on the list.

This one made me scratch my head....hmmmmmm:confused:

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Steven Fullman 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Rsberg

This one made me scratch my head....hmmmmmm:confused:

I think he meant cum as in "combined with"...

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- Rsberg 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Fullman
  
  I think he meant cum as in "combined with"...
  
  Steve
  
  I hope so...if not we need to open up another forum section
  
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J Bold 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Rsberg

This one made me scratch my head....hmmmmmm:confused:

See definition number one on this page. He used it correctly. As in, "together with."

cum - definition of cum by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

And yeah, I've tried those JV giveaways before, not too impressed with the results. Maybe it was just the wrong fit.
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sonamlama

13 years ago

Awesome! JV Giveaways are so effective when you have an offer that people really want.

Your results proves that people still are interested in eBooks and that they are an effective list building tool.

Keep on rocking brotha!

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Hexor 13 years ago

Can someone teach me on this ? I will give thanks for every posts that will help me.
I want to get some free gifts this christmas season ! Have a nice day.. Help and comments are highly appreciated
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mgpweb

13 years ago

I have just done the same I started a new campaign using just JV giveaways, my list went from 0 to 78 from the first giveaway in the first day.

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CDarklock

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mobiusman

They weren't kidding when they said you can build your list fast!!

Since my JV giveaway experiment in October, 75% of the subscribers have unsubscribed and none of the other 25% have ever bought a damn thing.

Cost: 6 hours

Benefit: squat

Compare my experience with a plain old opt-in.

Cost: 20 minutes

Benefit: 12 sales = $283 / 127 opt-ins = $2.23 / subscriber, 9.44% conversion

Yeah, I'm not going to be doing any more JV giveaways. But I might do more freebie opt-ins.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Since my JV giveaway experiment in October, 75% of the subscribers have unsubscribed and none of the other 25% have ever bought a damn thing.

Cost: 6 hours

Benefit: squat

Compare my experience with a plain old opt-in.

Cost: 20 minutes

Benefit: 12 sales = $283 / 127 opt-ins = $2.23 / subscriber, 9.44% conversion

Yeah, I'm not going to be doing any more JV giveaways. But I might do more freebie opt-ins.

Interesting numbers. Just plain old freebie opt ins from a squeeze page???

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CDarklock 13 years ago

Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom

Interesting numbers. Just plain old freebie opt ins from a squeeze page???

Yep. It is a converted WSO, though, so anyone searching for that WSO finds the sales page and a link to the opt-in form.

What shocks me is the amount of Google and type-in traffic I get. There's no explanation. It's literally a bare, unexplained opt-in form with no promises or build up at all. It AMAZES me that people fill it out.
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- Fun to Write 13 years ago
  
  I think it is the curiosity factor that makes them do it.
  
  What shocks me is the amount of Google and type-in traffic I get. There's no explanation. It's literally a bare, unexplained opt-in form with no promises or build up at all. It AMAZES me that people fill it out.[/QUOTE]
  
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Exire

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Since my JV giveaway experiment in October, 75% of the subscribers have unsubscribed and none of the other 25% have ever bought a damn thing.

Cost: 6 hours

Benefit: squat

Compare my experience with a plain old opt-in.

Cost: 20 minutes

Benefit: 12 sales = $283 / 127 opt-ins = $2.23 / subscriber, 9.44% conversion

Yeah, I'm not going to be doing any more JV giveaways. But I might do more freebie opt-ins.

I was considering JV giveaways until I read this. I think I'll be reconsidering now.

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CDarklock 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Exire

I was considering JV giveaways until I read this. I think I'll be reconsidering now.

My test results are not your test results. It may have just been a bad match between my marketing style and the traffic others directed to the giveaway.

Because, honestly, if I didn't have this opt-in running the way it is... I would never believe it worked.
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- Exire 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  My test results are not your test results. It may have just been a bad match between my marketing style and the traffic others directed to the giveaway.
  
  True, but Rsberg's experience seems to support your results and my conclusion to reconsider.
  
  Because, honestly, if I didn't have this opt-in running the way it is... I would never believe it worked.
  
  Speaking of which, mind telling me where I can see this opt-in page of yours? I'm always curious what others are doing, particularly when it seems to be working--even if they aren't sure why!
  
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sonamlama

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Since my JV giveaway experiment in October, 75% of the subscribers have unsubscribed and none of the other 25% have ever bought a damn thing.

Do you think it's because your Autoresponder follow up emails may not have been focused or targeted enough around the free offer you gave away?

I understand that many of those who subscribed were "freebie seekers" but I feel that your follow up messages AFTER they received their gift may not have given them more value and problem solving solutions based on the free offer that they obviously showed some interest in by opting in to your squeeze page.

What are your thoughts?

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CDarklock

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sonamlama

Do you think it's because your Autoresponder follow up emails may not have been focused or targeted enough around the free offer you gave away?

Nope. The JV giveaway and the opt-in page are the same product and receive the same followups. It's a valid split test. I think it's more likely a traffic mismatch. Another JV giveaway might work better, but honestly, I'm just not that motivated to try - I mean, it's a lot more work, and the conversion stats on my opt-in are pretty high as it is.

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Rob Howard

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Nope. The JV giveaway and the opt-in page are the same product and receive the same followups. It's a valid split test. I think it's more likely a traffic mismatch. Another JV giveaway might work better, but honestly, I'm just not that motivated to try - I mean, it's a lot more work, and the conversion stats on my opt-in are pretty high as it is.

And really, sometimes just picking something that works and sticking with it is more profitable than searching for something better.

There is over optimizing and testing, in which you start to receive diminishing returns over the time you spend...well, testing new stuff.

Rob

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CDarklock 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

And really, sometimes just picking something that works and sticking with it is more profitable than searching for something better.

Exactly. But that can be a trap, too. I've spent a year trying to bootstrap my business away from the Warrior Forum. Last year, 100% of my income came from here. Today, it's about 80% of my income.

I keep investing too much time here, and not enough elsewhere, because it is comfortable here. I like it here. I like the people, the people like me, and it's easy to make sales here.

But I really hate having all my eggs in one basket. And it's only marginally better to have 80% of my eggs in one basket.
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Fun to Write

13 years ago

Hmmm, I was thinking of doing this down the line, but because of CDarklock's experience, I want to hear more about conversions from JV giveaways.

Originally Posted by mobiusman

I submitted an ebook in a few JV Giveaways; I had 3 people on my list on Dec. 1, 2010 and today I have 65.

They weren't kidding when they said you can build your list fast!!

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Michael Shook 13 years ago

I have not had much success in doing giveaways, I am glad they seem to be working for you. I hope your list becomes even bigger.
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Rsberg

13 years ago

The one giveaway event I particpated in (some time back) produced a fair amount of names in a relatively short period of time but like Caliban....not many buyers...actually 2 I think, since then I haven't taken part in any.

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Wayne-JJ

13 years ago

Guys...is it better trying to build a freebie opt in page or an after sale opt in page?

I imagine the latter will produce a more responsive list, even though the no. of subscribers is smaller..

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Steven Fullman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Wayne-JJ

Guys...is it better trying to build a freebie opt in page or an after sale opt in page?

I imagine the latter will produce a more responsive list, even though the no. of subscribers is smaller..

I'd go with both...[in different lists]

Cheers,
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Wayne-JJ 13 years ago

Thanks Steve, guess I'll work on a freebie opt in as my main funnel and expand from there

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

I'd go with both...[in different lists]

Cheers,
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- King Shiloh Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Rsberg
  
  This one made me scratch my head....hmmmmmm:confused:
  
  It made me shout!
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Fullman
  
  I think he meant cum as in "combined with"...
  
  Steve
  
  Exactly what he meant...
  
  Originally Posted by Rsberg
  
  I hope so...if not we need to open up another forum section
  
  Allen needs to hear this. Paul Myers will not agree with you because he's my friend.
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Fullman
  
  ROFL
  
  Dang...another premium membership I need to join?
  
  Yes...sorry we have already joined another private forum without informing you.:p
  
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  bradlean 13 years ago
  
  Thanks for the free gift!
  
  I already download it...
  
  Anyway here's my free gift too as an exchange that they said,
  the more you give the more you receive.
  
  Here get your POWERFUL EBOOKS FREE at
  Sajid's Give Away Promo Free! Merry Christmas to All!: Sajid is giving you a gift this season
  
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  Rsberg 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by King Shiloh
  
  Allen needs to hear this. Paul Myers will not agree with you because he's my friend.
  
  It was a joke bud....relax....you don't need to go calling your mod buddies...LOL
  
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Exire

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Wayne-JJ

Guys...is it better trying to build a freebie opt in page or an after sale opt in page?

I imagine the latter will produce a more responsive list, even though the no. of subscribers is smaller..

I agree with Steven--do both. Have the freebie opt-in page to build a list and when people buy something from you have another opt-in list after the purchase. This way you have a list of potential buyers and a list of those who have already bought and you get the best of both worlds.

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Neil M

13 years ago

What I am wondering is how many immediate buyers would I be passing up if I sent people through a freebie opt-in first. Isn't it better to have the freebie opt-in as a last second offer for people who don't buy? Just some thoughts...

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Steven Fullman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by docdizzle

What I am wondering is how many immediate buyers would I be passing up if I sent people through a freebie opt-in first. Isn't it better to have the freebie opt-in as a last second offer for people who don't buy? Just some thoughts...

I'd say it's best to have a balls-out strategy to get as many sales or leads as possible.

Notice the "or"...don't mix your message, or try to catch everyone all at once.

You're either selling or recruiting.

But not both. You can do both afterwards.

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Neil M

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

I'd say it's best to have a balls-out strategy to get as many sales or leads as possible.

Notice the "or"...don't mix your message, or try to catch everyone all at once.

You're either selling or recruiting.

But not both. You can do both afterwards.

Thanks for the advice man....I think recruiting and then selling seems like the better way to go. I spent a lot of time attempting a lot of other things and list building and info marketing is all I am starting to focus on. I am working on an authority site and separate sales funnel for my first product right now. Any tips are more than welcome.

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13 years ago

congratulation dude.

Keep it up

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I think the traditional squeeze pages along with the social media can give good results. A JV giveaway might work in a specific niche, so it all remains with testing the field out.

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