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Article Submission Made My Site Disappear, Duplicate Content?

by andyvon
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Hi guys,

I know that the whole duplicate content thing is widely regarded as a myth, but please hear me out.

Yesterday I took an article previously published on my site and completely rewrote it by hand, no generic spinning, so it should be pretty unique. I submitted the rewritten article to GoArticles. Prior to submitting the article, my site ranked somewhere on the second results page of Google for the designated keyword phrase. Only a couple of minutes after submitting the article, both my site and the article were ranking on the first page with my site actually outranking the article. I was very pleased with the result to say the least and already thought about ways to boost my site to number 1.

However, when I checked again a couple of minutes ago, the GoArticles page was still on page 1, but my site couldn't be found anywhere as if Google has hidden it because of duplicate content. So now to my questions:

Are there reasons other than duplicate content why Google could've suddenly hidden my site from the results?
What should I do to get it back up to the first page (or displayed at all)? Could submitting additional rewritten articles to other directories (eza, buzzle...) with a dofollow backlink to the page solve the problem?

Thanks in advance,

- Andy Von
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  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    I have to believe it was more of a coincidence, asI understand one has to do something more indisputable, like linking to blacklisted sites from yours, otherwise people woyld be torpedoing competitors by duplicating their content all over the place.

    Usually doesn't the site credited with first creating the content (yours) get the most link juice?
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Again this is google and they do things very oddly sometimes. I would not worry too much about it. What matters is when the site is older. If it is on google then you are in good shape. When things are new they tend to pop up there at first, come down, then end up back up there again. I have had this happen a few times in the past.

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  • Profile picture of the author andyvon
    For what it's worth, my site just appeared on the first page again, so it seems to have been just a temporary glitch. I still have to learn not to worry so much about short-term events like this as I am used to getting instant feedback, which in this case happened to be negative. Thanks for your comments though.

    - Andy Von
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    • Profile picture of the author HelpfulHannah
      Originally Posted by andyvon View Post

      For what it's worth, my site just appeared on the first page again, so it seems to have been just a temporary glitch. I still have to learn not to worry so much about short-term events like this as I am used to getting instant feedback, which in this case happened to be negative. Thanks for your comments though.

      - Andy Von
      People need to chill more . You know stress and worry over what 'could' happen is a huge problem.

      Here's a quick story.

      I discovered that my driver's license was expired for over a year, and as soon as I found out I had a big ball of stress in my stomach that instantly made me feel terrible. I immediately thought of all the bad things that could happen. I could lose my job, I might have to resit all the test again. I might have to learn how to reverse park again . Long story short. In the end I rang the transport department, they said come on down and get it renewed. Since it's been less than 2 years expired you don't need to do anything except pay a renewal fee.

      Moral to the story. My stress and worry did nothing but make me feel terrible for 15 hours until I found out it was NOTHING.

      Seems like Google was just dancing... it does that... a lot. Get used to it.

      I hope that helps,
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  • Profile picture of the author Kristy Taylor
    Try Scroogle Scraper to get a better idea of what position your site is in (it deletes cookies and doesn't save search terms like google does, each time you use google it remembers your search terms and returns results it "thinks" you want, but scroogle deletes this info so you get fresh results.)

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by andyvon View Post

    Article Submission Made My Site Disappear
    It really, really didn't, Andy. It just didn't. It was a temporal coincidence.

    Originally Posted by andyvon View Post

    Duplicate Content?
    No. It wasn't duplicate content. It wasn't even syndicated content, if you re-wrote it. But even if you hadn't changed it at all, it still wouldn't have been "duplicate content" within the "penalty against your site" context anyway.

    Originally Posted by andyvon View Post

    Are there reasons other than duplicate content why Google could've suddenly hidden my site from the results?
    Clearly there are, because you didn't use duplicate content on your site, and you can take material from your site and submit it unchanged to 1,000 article directories without incurring any "penalty" at all. And thousands of article marketers have done so thousands of times.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Like Alexa said, your article was totally rewritten, therefore not duplicate content. So that had nothing to do with it.

    The thing is that google is constantly tweaking and adding to their algorithm so the serps never stay the same. Just because you are on page 2 one day does not mean that a change in the code will not send you to page 200 the next.

    But, what seems more likely is that goog is just taking "another look" at your site since it now sees new links. It could come back higher tomorrow or next week.

    I had one that I have been working on and off all summer and fall and it was hovering between #3 and #7 (sometiems page 2) for months. Then last week it shot up to #1 for a day. Then the next day - nowhere to be found. Today it is #1 again.

    There's just too many things involved in their ranking algorithm and it's constantly changing so your best course of action is to follow a linking strategy that involves getting many diverse types of links and just keep plugging away at it.

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