Nicely said Dennis I am a fan of rehashed info ( PLR ) You just have to know when to use, where to use it, and how to use it. Only unique content on my blog. But for other tasks rehashed info has its uses. I like the way you broke it down good post!

Yeah, generally speaking, rehashing is a myth, though there are exceptions.

I think a better term would be re-angling.

All the best,
Michael

I'm not a big fan of hash.

Wait...

What was the question?

If one method is called rehashed just becasue it was produced by, for example, 100 marketers using different words; it can also be used thousand times by just applying unique twists to it rather crying over buying something you had read.

If people really think about it, All information for the most part is rehashed.

Its just presented and organized differently than before.

As a graphic designer, one of the things we are taught is that designing is simply taking the elements that you know or have been exposed to, but arranging them in new and different ways. Thus, the more elements you have been exposed to and know about, the more elements you can pull from and add to your graphic design work.

Now, I know you are talking about content, but in my opinion its almost the same.

Very, very few people come up with something totally new and unique, they just put a great spin or presentation and then repackage.

They may have 1 or 2 unique ideas maybe, who knows, either way nothing is completely unique. We are limited to 26 letters in the english alphabet and all people use those same letters (if they speak or write english) and they just arrange them in ways that are different than others. But the letters used are all re-hashed.

I know what I said may sound kinda funny, but its another way to look at things. Honestly, how far can people go with this type of stuff? They can't re-invent the wheel, its already been invented. All they can do, is take bits and pieces of information and rearrange them.

Now, if some new technology, knowledge or information arises, then yes, that can be considered not re-hashed.

I promise I am not drinking, smoking or taking any drugs............!

There is nothing new under the sun...

Well, there are computers, and everything outside of the Milky Way, but everything else has been talked about at some point previous.

It is hard to make a new product based on information that is totally new, but I can assure you that my interpretation of that information may permit you to take new insight about the information you have never realized in the hundreds of times you had seen that information before.

I have people refund because they say that I completely rehashed known information, yet if you already had the information in a format that was useful to you, why did you buy my product in the first place?

You are not looking for new information; you are looking for new insights about existing information, right?

, travel to planet Xectarious Troy... (If you haven't seen the satellite images yet, they are awesome... Check it out at the link I gave you...)


"Rehashed" is the favorite drop word of people who think "knowledge" is more important than "insight"...

Yet, those who truly value "insight" will beat everyone else to the top of the ladder of success...

Think about that last sentence...

It really has the potential to change your life forever for the better...

Dude, like 80% of all the cheep products out there are Rehashed Information!!

I hate that!!

I tried making up my own alphabet so I could be more original, but I can't find a computer keyboard with my characters-so I guess I'll just have stick with these boring old ones.

Great thread, and I really like your point, Dennis, that if a newbie reads a course and says to herself "man, I already know this-I'm learning nothing here"-then perhaps she should realize she has knowledge worth enough to take action.

The complaint about rehash always makes me think of blues snobs that think white rock bands like Led Zep and the Stones are guilty of "ripping off" the original blues artists that inspired them. If that's true then those "original" artists were "ripping off" whoever came before them, etc. There's a lot of truth to the old saying "there's nothing new under the sun"-not 100%-but mostly true-which is why a really original artist or writer always stands out so much-but even they owe a debt to those who inspired and taught them.

Ok about a month ago I published an article on my blog on jailbreaking iPad 4.2 using redsn0w jailbreak tool.

About 2 weeks ago, some Mac magazine (I think it was MacLife but I am not sure) published an article teaching the same thing.

Did they rehash off of me?

Same goes in IM. The concepts are SAME and so is the plan of action many times.

Rehashing is over rated

I actually had a huge conversation with a fellow "warrior" about this and here is part of what I told him:
Simply put, there are only so many ways of doing something.

I am running a 5 figure a month business and to be honest, I don't have any "SECRETS".

Now like Dennis said, if you are starting to come across "rehashed" information then I think it's time to start taking some action and to STOP consuming information.

With many topics I have found that I can understand how one person
explains it more easily than others.

I flash back to my first college statistics class. I enrolled in and
dropped that class TWICE, two consecutive semesters because
within 2-3 weeks I could see that I just wasn't getting it. The
third time that I enrolled, I got a professor by the name of Marsha,
whom I still remember to this day even though that was roughtly
30 years ago. She explained the exact same material, and probably
used the same book, but I got it when she explained it.

I also often have to hear some things over and over again before
they sink in. I even read certain books over and over again until
they become a part of my thinking.

So, I have absolutely no problem with rehashed materials, as
long as it's accurate!

Willie

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Kinda like the new 'offline businesses' used to be called 'business development', and before that 'Sales and Marketing'.

Dennis,

You may be onto something here. You mean to tell me that Dominos Pizza, Pizzahut, Shakeys, and Papa Johns aren't all EXACTLY the same "rehashed" pizza?

Rod "Coffee-Made-Me-Do-It" Cortez

That's exactly how I think about rehashed information. I appreciate people who writes good stuff even if it's rehashed. Some rehashed are better than the original.

99.999% of the concepts are already out there, so just about everything is rehashed. I don't see the problem, personally.

The concepts remain constant, but the message varies according to the author.

Give the market what it wants. What's the big deal? It allcomes down to point of difference.

In one sentence, I think it is all about different strokes for different folks.

BTW, it is one of the secrets of success in internet marketing, article marketing...

For example, you can use 5 keywords to write 5 rehashed articles in 5 rehashed ways.

Rehashed information means "In My Own Opinion" which is most probably not your own opinion.

One more thing before I go, every messenger has his own message.

I think there's a big difference between "rehashed" information as in the Rehash King method of just rewording the same old stuff and putting a new name on it and selling it and information that is presented by competitors in the same niche based on their own experiences and their own take on a topic.

With the latter, there may be some similar information in both products, because some facts will be the same, there's going to be differences in writing style, differences in opinions and some facts ... a different twist ... some things you hadn't read before, etc.

I've read tons of ebooks on web flipping and none of them has been exactly the same and I've learned something new from each of them. That's just one example. There are plenty more.

Rehashed information to someone, may be new information for another person so it's hard to distinguish I guess, but it's always something to consider. So I think you always have to be careful if you are going to call someone out for it because while it may not benefit you, it may someone else.

For those forumers who want a synonym for rehashed, it is re-used or rework.
@Topic, yes, it is very clever to rehashed information but not all, just get only some information from the old information and then jumble it and combine with another words,phrases,sentences and paragraphs, just assure that you dont copy ALL his work because it is Plagarism

talking about dreams, tell me about your website thats in your sig. that looks interesting ?

he's gone ? and a quick search shows multiple people (I found 4 in 4 minutes) rehashing that same sig link, surley they do not all own the same site ? sweat dreams

Not sure who the rehash king is but if someone is really doing that they should be reported so they get the boot. Maybe it already happened.

I like what Suzanne wrote about flipping. There are many products on flipping, product creation, Amazon affiliate marketing, etc. As long as each person adds their own twist or angle to it then I don't consider it rehash.

How many ways are there to tell people they can lose weight by eating less and exercising yet there are about a kabillion products out there on weight loss. So the overweight fella sits in McDonald's blaming the author for rehashing the same info he's read before but never took action.

That's why people get angry about "rehashing" because they're looking for the magic pill to make money online, lose weight, etc.

The IM niche: Have content people want to read, get their trust, then use that trust to sell them something.

The diet/fitness niche: Exercise and eat well.

The dating niche: Develop your personality and be confident.

We've been doing nothing but rehashing since the beginning of time. We sell the writer, we sell the dream, we sell the differences that make *our* way the One True Path, and the *other* ways inferior. We practically never sell something new and revolutionary.

Google just rehashed Excite. So it goes.

I haven't written a product myself yet, but I'm okay with the idea of rehashed information. I've bought probably about $100 worth of WSOs in the past couple of weeks and I've learn HEAPS from them. Every single one has taught me something new and I'm sure a lot of it is rehashed - some of them even touch on similar things.

But all of them bring new ideas to my mind and so I think they are worth my money.

So as long as it's not a blatant copy of another's work then I think it's fine, but the person 'rehashing' should also add their own views and ideas ontop of whatever content they are basing their new work on.

When I was in college I bought lots of mathematics books. All of them contained nothing but rehashed information.

That would not be hard to do at all, someone with a little time on his hands and an iota of initiative could quite easily accomplish this.

P.S. I keep seeing this repeated reference to the Rehash King...is this some mythical, made up person, or does he really exist? LOL

There is a lot of rehashed stuff out there, which I dont mind, after all if you dont know it already I dont suppose it matters where you learn it.

What I dont like is product launches that claim to be all brand new but are really just a lot of information you already know. Instant Refund Time

Well said .... It's not the re-hashed information per se that is annoying. It the claims by authors that the re-hashed information is "new", that really pisses me off.

(rant over ..)

The OP asks what do I think of rehashed info?

Tp be honest, there is always going to be rehashed content, especially when so many newbs are taught to sell how products in IM.

That said, I see nothing wrong with something that seeks to impove a concept. For example, if a complex topic is broken down into steps.

I create many products based on topics that are out there, such as setting up a blog. But I create them as tutorials, rather than an ebook. Why? Because the easier they are to follow, the more success my clients wil attain.

That said, the rehashed info which teaches you nothing new and is merely a re-wrtie of another product... sucks big time.

From a product creator's point of view, I always look for a better way to package info. And as someone else mentioned... every messemger has a unique message.

I know that I have purchased many products which are rehashed by definition, but only 1 or 2 of them actually made sense for me to apply.

If writers would only read content for comprehension before writing about a topic, then fewer people would complain about "rehashed" content.

Sal - turning knowledge into step-by-step tutorials and including coaching is adding a TON of value to the mix. I'm sure you're adding your own insights as well. Sorry, but I can't award you rehash king status because of the added value.

And to throw in my two cents here guys, the one place I can find rehashed content any day of the week is not here on our beloved forum, but on Ebay.

I've bought many, many IM products over the last six years, and 97% of them have been unique and while may be identical, all have their own twist and turns on them. Except for anything I've snagged from Ebay. You've got everyone who thinks they're a resell-rights master on there selling the same product as everyone else.

Blah to that. I found one, ONE gem on ebay years ago, written by Kabita Kalita, and it showed how to dominate google's top 10 slots with your webpages.

I bought that back in 06. That technique still works today, it just requires a bit more work than it used to. But It can still be done. That is a fantastic product.

-Sean

Even though I am a big fan of and also love to say I like original content, deep inside I do know that every content is just original to the writer or producer. Because there is always going to be someone out there that must have some how thought like you or written something similar to yours. And for that person your content or product will be considered as rehash.

Even though I am a big fan of and also love to say I like original content, deep inside I do know that every content is just original to the writer or producer. Because there is always going to be someone out there that must have some how thought like you or written something similar to yours. And for that person your content or product will be considered as rehash.

Even though I am a big fan of and also love to say I like original content, deep inside I do know that every content is just original to the writer or producer. Because there is always going to be someone out there that must have some how thought like you or written something similar to yours. And for that person your content or product will be considered as rehash.:p

IMO there two distict schools of rehashing. The first, which I cannot stand, is what Chris Kent posted about here

I hate these practices and I wish it could be stopped somehow, but it cannot and will not ever be put to an end. Even if we found a way to weed it out of the WSO section, people would still clean up reselling this stuff at DP and other forums


The other form of rehashing, as many of you have already discussed here, is not rehashing at all, but rather reinterpreting and re-purposing information. Selling old ideas in a new if way, if you will.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with it, it's been done for thousands of years and will still be done for many years to come.

That being said, I know where a lot of this rehash animosity comes from....


Most of this rehashed complaining stems from activity on the forums. You know the ones I'm talking about. The place where the cool kids hang out and spend time talking about how lame the Warrior forum is.

You see, the guys who chill on these forums are the true 1337 marketers, and not l4mz0rz like everyone here at WF. They "invent" ALL the real methods of making money, and anything posted anywhere else is just rehashed crap.

In fact, they're sooo elite they have a whole massive section of their site dedicated to giving away information products--namely WSOs. Is it because they're desperately trying to find a way to make money quick (a.k.a. Silver Bullet Syndrome)?

Of course not!

They do it because information products are so useless they would be repulsed if anyone had to pay money for them.




The story of their members usually go something like this...

Newbie joins WF

Newbie buys a bunch of WSO and fails to make money

Newbie post a bunch of newbie threads in the Main Discussion forum

Newbie doesn't get the answers he was hoping for and figures out these methods require too much work

Newbie keeps buying WSOs until he stumbles across one teaching some methods in the dark arts

Newbie is intrigued about these opportunities to make easy money without working hard

Newbie finds a new home in the other forum where he soon learns about how lame the WF and how everyone here is just ripping people off with their rehashed crap

Newbie needs to fit in so he dubs himself a professional and starts practicing his WF bashing along with everyone else

Time passes and Newbie still isn't making money, so he returns to the WF, but this practice of calling everything a rehash has stuck with him

Newbie is still presenting himself as a professional and all the newer newbies look up to him and follow his lead

The cycle continues...

Brilliant idea-I can feel a ebook coming on-"Product Creation Gold: Secrets of Mining the Warrior Forum"-just kidding of course-that is a despicable tactic.