NEED HELP! JOB ends in 9 months, Need to go f/ $0 to $4500 /mo

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Hey fellow warriors,

I need some real help. This sounds like a big challenge. But I believe I can do it.

I've been working at a JOB I hate for years. I've been itching to leave, and now I have to in 9 months, whether I want to or not.

My top priority is to build a replacement income of $4500 a month (this will also cover insurance for my family), by the end of this 9 months (Sept 2011).

I need some recommendations for a good IM teaching programs with a community specifically focused on that method....from those of you who are successfully making good incomes from home without having employees. (NO MLM - tried that already)

I don't want to just "try" a system, I want to "do" and build a business that will achieve my income goal. (although, I realize I will have to try/fail/try again and test many markets, keywords, products - no problem there). I am not scared of failure and pushing through challenges. I just have a small budget and need to bootstrap my business and invest a lot of time rather that investing a lot of money.

I have been reading about affiliate marketing Amazon or Info products. I have read about doing multiple niche sites, I have read about building a list and creating a products. I have read about creating membership sites after doing all this... and more.


Here is some info about me that I think should help me choose a business model.

I have always been a jack of all trades, master of none type of person jumping from one thing to the next. I get bored easily, and would rather get something built or improved and then start on the next project. Troubleshooting/fixing doing on-going services is not my thing.

I am good at figuring things out and writing and in some cases making videos. I like to demonstrate things, consolidate info, and share with others in a more user friendly form, and I like to maximize whatever I'm involved in.

I believe in being honest, providing quality info or products, and giving hungry markets what they really want... not just spamming the internet with a bunch of cheap/slick websites.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I appreciate your help.

Mark
#$4500 #bootstrap #ends #f or #income #job #months #or mo #replacement #system
  • Profile picture of the author RussRuffino
    Don't do affiliate marketing. Create your own downloadable info product and put it on CB with the nicest sales page in the niche. Then focus on attracting affiliates. Advertise in the CB marketplace, on jvnotifypro, and here in the Joint Ventures forum. Use Optimize Press to build your site as quickly as possible.

    R
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    • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
      Originally Posted by RussRuffino View Post

      Don't do affiliate marketing. Create your own downloadable info product and put it on CB with the nicest sales page in the niche. Then focus on attracting affiliates. Advertise in the CB marketplace, on jvnotifypro, and here in the Joint Ventures forum. Use Optimize Press to build your site as quickly as possible.

      R
      Thanks Russ. I've read this a couple of other times on this forum and the war room. It does make since that this would get me into profit faster than being an affiliate.

      I guess I need help coming up with good products for good markets that I will have an interest in. I think some a program / forum specifically focused on this is probably what I need to get it done quickly and effectively without losing focus.

      Thanks again,
      Mark
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      • Profile picture of the author merlincat
        Good luck in your new venture.

        Try the list of best threads...

        Also have a look at Terry Dean's site I love his monthly mentor club. I believe he also has an internship program.

        Happy New Year...if you have any resolutions please visit the site in my signiture and leave a comment. Thanks xxx
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        • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
          Originally Posted by merlincat View Post

          Good luck in your new venture.

          Try the list of best threads...

          Also have a look at Terry Dean's site I love his monthly mentor club. I believe he also has an internship program.

          Happy New Year...if you have any resolutions please visit the site in my signiture and leave a comment. Thanks xxx
          Thanks, I'll check those out. Appreciate it.

          Happy New Year,
          Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author vishalduggal
      Originally Posted by RussRuffino View Post

      Don't do affiliate marketing. Create your own downloadable info product and put it on CB with the nicest sales page in the niche. Then focus on attracting affiliates. Advertise in the CB marketplace, on jvnotifypro, and here in the Joint Ventures forum. Use Optimize Press to build your site as quickly as possible.

      R
      I think he is a Newbie in this Business. How can he teach to others if didn't know anything.
      So maybe he can work with website flipping just make some nice quick blogs and sell them for higher profits.
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    • Profile picture of the author sam770
      Advertise in the CB marketplace
      Russ,
      How serious is the click bank website? any special issues I should be aware of before I start working with them?
      I have no experience with this website but google show tons of "cb sucks" websites...
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      • Profile picture of the author RussRuffino
        Originally Posted by sam770 View Post

        Russ,
        How serious is the click bank website? any special issues I should be aware of before I start working with them?
        I have no experience with this website but google show tons of "cb sucks" websites...
        Hey Sam,

        Affiliates tend to bitch about Clickbank a lot, for various reasons. But hundreds of thousands of them promote products on there, and promote them very aggressively. As a Clickbank vendor, I can tell you that I've had a great experience with them.

        Made my life a LOT easier.

        R
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        • Profile picture of the author BradB
          Thankyou mh77mail for the info you inspired and thank-You Russ for the lead on OptimizePress.

          :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Hi Mark,

    Nice to see a person like you. You have a goal to achieve within 9 more months. I like it. As a warrior member, you must get War room membership to collect more valuable information and quality products. That's a good investment for you.
    If you need a coaching program, I prefer UIM
    Because they launch monthly programs to have six figure income within a year.

    Good luck
    Rukshan
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    • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
      Originally Posted by blog8491 View Post

      Hi Mark,

      Nice to see a person like you. You have a goal to achieve within 9 more months. I like it. As a warrior member, you must get War room membership to collect more valuable information and quality products. That's a good investment for you.
      If you need a coaching program, I prefer UIM
      Because they launch monthly programs to have six figure income within a year.

      Good luck
      Rukshan
      I'll check out UIM ... Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Krstwo
      Originally Posted by blog8491 View Post

      Hi Mark,

      Nice to see a person like you. You have a goal to achieve within 9 more months. I like it. As a warrior member, you must get War room membership to collect more valuable information and quality products. That's a good investment for you.
      If you need a coaching program, I prefer UIM
      Because they launch monthly programs to have six figure income within a year.

      Good luck
      Rukshan
      ^ Agreed best $35 i've spent on any online product.
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      • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
        Originally Posted by Krstwo View Post

        ^ Agreed best $35 i've spent on any online product.
        I did join the War Room, downloaded the Warrior Pack, and red the Triad stuff. It was a great read... and seems like a good business model...but not quite enough detail.

        Thinking about joining that guy's low cost flight school... but it doesn't look like it's near as in depth as something like Blog Mastermind (which seems great, but expensive).

        Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author alphaxyz
    mh77mail, that is some serious pursuit...

    becoming a War Room member is definitely a good first step as it has tons of reliable info in it. from what i've been reading, the quickest way is to do JV but it require you to master something first. as for affiliate marketing...selling big ticket item is also worth pursuing. the quickest venture of all is probably forex trading but it is not recommended due to your condition (experience-wise and the critical need to build income while not risking it).
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  • Profile picture of the author Timothy Reuscher
    Russ is 100% correct. If you do affiliate marketing, you'll only make pennies. If you make your own product, and build your list, you should be able to reach your goals.

    I'm pretty much going to do what Russ says. I plan on having a GREAT 2011.

    Have a great and prosperous day.
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by Timothy Reuscher View Post

      Russ is 100% correct. If you do affiliate marketing, you'll only make pennies. If you make your own product, and build your list, you should be able to reach your goals.
      What you, and maybe Russ and many others, don't get is that your own product when you do affiliate marketing is providing advertising space that brings in converting buying traffic. Your customers are advertisers who have products to sell or middlemen/agents, such as Adsense, who're working with them, not the consumers who buy the products.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
        Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

        What you, and maybe Russ and many others, don't get is that your own product when you do affiliate marketing is providing advertising space that brings in converting buying traffic. Your customers are advertisers who have products to sell or middlemen/agents, such as Adsense, who're working with them, not the consumers who buy the products.
        I half agree with this. Most product owners overlook the fact that the affiliates are their customer as much as the consumer who buys it but to say that the consumer isn't a customer isn't right.

        A good product owner will have or build up a portfolio of related products to sell to those customers. Paying backend commission to the affiliate on some and not on others. But ultimately the most money is made converting affiliate referred leads into repeat customers. Otherwise you're only building on the leverage of repeat affiliate promotions not on the raw customer base itself.
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        • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
          Originally Posted by Andy Fletcher View Post

          but to say that the consumer isn't a customer isn't right.
          Why?

          Do you think a company like Lamar Outdoor or Network Communications concern themselves with selling the things they're advertising to consumers or selling advertising space to their clients?

          Sure, you can run a hybrid model where you mix your own products with other peoples products but that's not what I'm talking about and isn't something I'm particularly fond of doing myself. What I'm getting at is providing your real clients with advertising space that makes them (and you) money by bringing in product consumers.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
            Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

            Why?

            Do you think a company like Lamar Outdoor or Network Communications concern themselves with selling the things they're advertising to consumers or selling advertising space to their clients?

            Sure, you can run a hybrid model where you mix your own products with other peoples products but that's not what I'm talking about and isn't something I'm particularly fond of doing myself. What I'm getting at is providing your real clients with advertising space that makes them (and you) money by bringing in product consumers.
            Sorry, I misread your post. You can basically ignore everything I said as it's totally out of context.
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    • Profile picture of the author sam770
      If you make your own product, and build your list, you should be able to reach your goals.
      Timothy - what type of products? could you give few examples?
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      • Profile picture of the author oldwarrioruser1
        Originally Posted by sam770 View Post

        Timothy - what type of products? could you give few examples?
        ANYTHING!

        - How to swing a golf club
        - How to bid at car auctions
        - How to get rid of acne
        - How to stop smoking
        - How to get back your exgirlfriend

        Basically, anything that says, "How To".. and people are searching for an ANSWER.... you can provide a product.

        And don't think about JUST ebooks.

        There are multiple ways to provide information:

        - Ebook
        - Reports
        - Membership sites
        - Forum about that niche (like this)

        Also you could just have a information site in general, a blog for example, and just keep it fresh with content on that certain subject and sell advertising space.

        Some people will argue that advertising space is more valuable than the product itself. (Which is can be)

        This is just off of the top of my head, hope that can get some ideas rolling for ya!
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  • Profile picture of the author asimbawany
    its good to see that you have a solid plan of action to follow.
    My recommendation would be to buy consumer wealth system.
    its a good system. used to sell for $77, now selling for $37...
    I highly recommend that you buy the AMA upsell.. worth every penny you spend.
    Consumer Wealth System
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    To the OP, you're off to the right start already. Insteading of waiting till you have 2 weeks to go and need the replacement income, you are starting with 9 months to build a business.

    The first thing I would do personally is look at yourself. Take a good honest look. What are your skills, what are your areas of knowledge? (We all have an unbelievable amount of knowledge at our disposal just from living life.)

    Once you've assessed what skills you are bringing with you, you can begin deciding which direction to go.

    The reason you should approach it this way, is because all the information you've recieved so far presumes you have the knowledge and expertise to craft a product. For some people product creation is damn hard, for others it is a walk in the park. Some are better at promoting affiliate products (ignore those saying you can't make good money doing this, how the heck are product owners making any money if their affililiates aren't?)

    Once you've figured out your skills, come post back here, and then you can get some real usable information on where to go from here.

    Best wishes,
    Sylvia
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    • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
      Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe View Post

      To the OP, you're off to the right start already. Insteading of waiting till you have 2 weeks to go and need the replacement income, you are starting with 9 months to build a business.

      The first thing I would do personally is look at yourself. Take a good honest look. What are your skills, what are your areas of knowledge? (We all have an unbelievable amount of knowledge at our disposal just from living life.)

      Once you've assessed what skills you are bringing with you, you can begin deciding which direction to go.

      The reason you should approach it this way, is because all the information you've recieved so far presumes you have the knowledge and expertise to craft a product. For some people product creation is damn hard, for others it is a walk in the park. Some are better at promoting affiliate products (ignore those saying you can't make good money doing this, how the heck are product owners making any money if their affililiates aren't?)

      Once you've figured out your skills, come post back here, and then you can get some real usable information on where to go from here.

      Best wishes,
      Sylvia
      I agree with you Sylvia. I have actually gone through several personality/career tests, read books, joined low-cost coaching websites about turning my gifts into skills/work/business...

      As I said in my original post...since I jump from one thing to another I don't have any DEEP experience or knowledge in anything... just lots of little bits of knowledge.

      I will say, that I am good at taking research and organizing it into usable form... I'm good at taking something existing and optimizing it and showing others how to take it to the next level... and then moving on to another project doing the same thing... This is what I have been doing since I was a kid.

      I see this as an opportunity to venture into several different subjects... but I need to start with one an get good at it... but I must care about whatever it is enough to stick with it.

      After chatting online with some marketers that I do know personally and are successful, I do see blogging / video-teaching as a good format for me... and that can be the what draws the traffic, while selling other's products... but as many have said, developing my own product is a good idea... I see that coming down the road after I get better at one particular little niche, and have gathered a good amount of info for at least a month or two.

      There have been a couple of recommendations of teaching programs on this thread already...and I'll look into them.

      I have also had several people recommend Yaro Starak's stuff and also Internet Business Mastery...Anybody have any opinions on courses / forums like these?

      Thanks,
      Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author mark587905
    If you have a budget and know how to build sites I would suggest going for PPC. It can make you a mint if done correctly but you do need a budget.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    With no knowledge that might be a tricky one OP. Thought of looking for an alternative job?
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    I think he is a Newbie in this Business. How can he teach to others if didn't know anything.
    Just because he's new to IM, it doesn't mean he doesn't "know anything." More people are buying info products online than the ones looking to make money online.

    He could create a video course on how to weatherize your home, how to buy a car . . . anything. Everyone is an expert on something.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by cma01 View Post

      Just because he's new to IM, it doesn't mean he doesn't "know anything." More people are buying info products online than the ones looking to make money online.

      He could create a video course on how to weatherize your home, how to buy a car . . . anything. Everyone is an expert on something.
      Exactly, so many people tend to have tunnel vision, and think that product creation has to be centered around the IM niche.

      Take a look at Clickbank - there are plenty of other niches besides IM. As a matter of fact, if he can create products in evergreen niches like diet, weight loss, dating, etc., it is far more likely that he'd be able to generate sustained and consistent income when compared to IM products, which typically make you lots of money in a quick burst initially, and then fade off to almost nothing.
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      • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
        Wow, thankyou everyone for the lively discussion. Sorry that I dropped off for a while. I got distracted by holiday, family, my 5-year-old daughter's bday, etc.

        I will reply to a couple of things I read specifically.

        Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author gvannorman
    Little to no experience is normal. I believe that the majority of the members here all started there. I know that is where I am now. I wish you the best of luck.

    Oh yeah. I am going the niche blog way with Amazon products and Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author rockfuse
    I dont believe in cb , unless you want to lie and scam people out of money or you have really good knowledge on a specific industry that is highly wanted or needed . Most of the crap on cb is junk and trash and most people like anything else make zilch. If you have wanted skills or knowledge then writing a ebook or product could be valuable. A seo book or something there is a million of , umm ok , those really are a dime a dozen and unless you have a huge list then its not really worth it.

    affiliates marketing you can make a lot of money . I know plenty of people who make thousands a week selling products. But this also takes a longgggggggggg time and dedication to really have enough content or products.

    you can also sell products online through ur own ecommerce store or ebay


    anything is possible but very difficult to go from knowing nothing to making 50k plus a year on a skill. You usually have learn a skill set for years , just like any other job or profession. I know some guys who are experts in fields who can make a ton of money on cb in a few months with a new product or anything else. But , they have years of experience and high capital to do it .

    I dont know want to be a downer but the reality is im there is no shortcuts just a lot of hard work and experience. Most will fail , but anyone can become successful with a lot of hard work, luck, capital and time. Few will be over night successes
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    • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
      Originally Posted by rockfuse View Post

      I dont believe in cb , unless you want to lie and scam people out of money or you have really good knowledge on a specific industry that is highly wanted or needed . Most of the crap on cb is junk and trash and most people like anything else make zilch. If you have wanted skills or knowledge then writing a ebook or product could be valuable. A seo book or something there is a million of , umm ok , those really are a dime a dozen and unless you have a huge list then its not really worth it.

      affiliates marketing you can make a lot of money . I know plenty of people who make thousands a week selling products. But this also takes a longgggggggggg time and dedication to really have enough content or products.

      you can also sell products online through ur own ecommerce store or ebay


      anything is possible but very difficult to go from knowing nothing to making 50k plus a year on a skill. You usually have learn a skill set for years , just like any other job or profession. I know some guys who are experts in fields who can make a ton of money on cb in a few months with a new product or anything else. But , they have years of experience and high capital to do it .

      I dont know want to be a downer but the reality is im there is no shortcuts just a lot of hard work and experience. Most will fail , but anyone can become successful with a lot of hard work, luck, capital and time. Few will be over night successes
      I have to admit... I've looked at a lot of CB products... and very few, if any look like products I want to promote... Many of the sales letters promise the world, and they don't always deliver... I've returned a few CB products that I wanted to review, but I was disappointed. But there might be a couple of nuggets in there for me... who knows.

      Thanks for the input.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryansamuels
        I only started out a few months ago - and this is my first post on the forum.

        My success so far is in selling digital products that solve problems. i have a site which targets a large market but specifically going for your own geographic backyard.

        I like the idea of providing a product that is instantaneous for the user after payment. No shipping, no waiting for delivery.

        I am now earning a comfortable $4k a month from one site.

        it sounds like you and me have a similar history not to mention the entrepreneurial spirit that most of the members here seem to share.

        Good luck buddy.
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        • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
          Originally Posted by bryansamuels View Post

          I only started out a few months ago - and this is my first post on the forum.

          My success so far is in selling digital products that solve problems. i have a site which targets a large market but specifically going for your own geographic backyard.

          I like the idea of providing a product that is instantaneous for the user after payment. No shipping, no waiting for delivery.

          I am now earning a comfortable $4k a month from one site.

          it sounds like you and me have a similar history not to mention the entrepreneurial spirit that most of the members here seem to share.

          Good luck buddy.
          Brian, Thanks for the inspiration. You prove that it can be done and that I'm not crazy... Did you follow the advice of a particular mentor or use a particular forum / course / WSO / etc?

          Thanks,
          Mark
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            I don't want to just "try" a system, I want to "do" and build a business that will achieve my income goal. (although, I realize I will have to try/fail/try again and test many markets, keywords, products - no problem there). I am not scared of failure and pushing through challenges. I just have a small budget and need to bootstrap my business and invest a lot of time rather that investing a lot of money.
            Avoiding the arguments about CB or creating products, etc - you have the idea right in the quote above.

            But - don't assume a "system" will be following someone else (i.e., buying a product). The most successul business plan is the one you create for yourself and follow diligently.

            That means taking what works for you from several sources or programs, tweaking it to make it your system...and running with it.

            The first order is to spend a little time just reading and thinking and identify the area of marketing that suits your skills/interests best. It may be your own products, affiliate products, adsense, cpa...whatever works for YOU.

            Choose your direction carefully (you can add more directions later when you diversify) - develop a plan of action for yourself and go for it. You have enough time and a good mindset...just don't be distracted by conflicting advice and shiny programs.

            The search function here will be helpful as you look into various ways of earning with IM.

            kay
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            • Profile picture of the author The Blueprinter
              I think that if you would like to earn 4500$ every month you should pick a Clickbank product with high gravity (over 30), go to google in type in the products name with quotes, when you find a product witch has under 20.000 you should use this, create a website with the product name in the URL and then start to write about it

              When you're finished you should optimize for the producy name on google and then earn cash when someone but from your link.

              This is my advice
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            • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              Avoiding the arguments about CB or creating products, etc - you have the idea right in the quote above.

              But - don't assume a "system" will be following someone else (i.e., buying a product). The most successul business plan is the one you create for yourself and follow diligently.

              That means taking what works for you from several sources or programs, tweaking it to make it your system...and running with it.

              The first order is to spend a little time just reading and thinking and identify the area of marketing that suits your skills/interests best. It may be your own products, affiliate products, adsense, cpa...whatever works for YOU.

              Choose your direction carefully (you can add more directions later when you diversify) - develop a plan of action for yourself and go for it. You have enough time and a good mindset...just don't be distracted by conflicting advice and shiny programs.

              The search function here will be helpful as you look into various ways of earning with IM.

              kay
              Kay.

              Sure sounds like great advice. I do feel like I probably will need to pull from several different sources to continue my marketing education.

              However, since I do suffer from analysis paralysis and losing focus, I do feel like a structured training program tied to a community might give me the best chance of staying on track and blocking out the distractions.

              Regardless of the training... the part you mentioned about picking marketing that fits me... I do feel like I want to create my own content on a variety of subjects through blogging, videos, maybe writing an ebook, etc.

              Thanks,
              Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author AcmePLR
          Originally Posted by bryansamuels View Post

          I only started out a few months ago - and this is my first post on the forum.

          My success so far is in selling digital products that solve problems. i have a site which targets a large market but specifically going for your own geographic backyard.

          I like the idea of providing a product that is instantaneous for the user after payment. No shipping, no waiting for delivery.

          I am now earning a comfortable $4k a month from one site.

          it sounds like you and me have a similar history not to mention the entrepreneurial spirit that most of the members here seem to share.

          Good luck buddy.
          Bryan, are these products you create yourself, or are you selling them as an affiliate?

          The reason I ask is that I'm in a similar position as the person who started this thread, and I'm trying to decide which way to go.

          Thanks,

          Arlie
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          • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
            Originally Posted by AcmePLR View Post

            Bryan, are these products you create yourself, or are you selling them as an affiliate?

            The reason I ask is that I'm in a similar position as the person who started this thread, and I'm trying to decide which way to go.

            Thanks,

            Arlie
            Yes, you have us both curious now...

            Mark
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            • Profile picture of the author genietoast
              For your personality, I would say a combination of creating Niche Blogs and Problogging.

              You're a do it yourselfer, so you have no qualms with the learn as you go and learn as you implement technique.

              I would check out Matt Carter's Blog. Great video tutorial. Excellent info on affiliate marketing and internet marketing because the dude did it and made big bucks with it. Plus, the info is free. That's the niche blog part.

              For problogging, this will take you longer to set up. You need to strategize your blog.

              Prologger & Copyblogger are great tips for writing blog content.

              But DavidRisley.com dives write into the "make your blog make six-figures without wasting your time feeling like a hamster spinning wheels and making no progress" ordeal. He's been doing it for 10 years.
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              • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
                Originally Posted by genietoast View Post

                For your personality, I would say a combination of creating Niche Blogs and Problogging.

                You're a do it yourselfer, so you have no qualms with the learn as you go and learn as you implement technique.

                I would check out Matt Carter's Blog. Great video tutorial. Excellent info on affiliate marketing and internet marketing because the dude did it and made big bucks with it. Plus, the info is free. That's the niche blog part.

                For problogging, this will take you longer to set up. You need to strategize your blog.

                Prologger & Copyblogger are great tips for writing blog content.

                But DavidRisley.com dives write into the "make your blog make six-figures without wasting your time feeling like a hamster spinning wheels and making no progress" ordeal. He's been doing it for 10 years.
                Thanks... great advice. You are confirming what another pro IMer told me. You are correct to point out my do-it-yourself style... That really does drive me.

                I have seen Matt's blog... It does seem pretty helpful. Also have seen problogger. I'll go checkout David Risley

                Appreciate it.
                Mark
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            • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
              Originally Posted by mh77mail View Post


              [COLOR=Red]I need some recommendations for a good IM teaching programs with a community specifically focused on that method
              What method exactly? The method of making 4500 a month without employees?

              So you want to make 150 bucks a day?

              There are so many ways to do this.

              I agree with Sylvia's post.

              There is no right method - only the method that you devise and works for you.

              Do give yourself some goals and deadlines though on deciding that direction you figure out. 9 months can go real quick when you are trying to get set up.

              Determine some fundamentals first.

              To make money, you have to sell something. So you can sell your own stuff, someone elses stuff, or a service.

              Then you need to determine the "starving niche" and research if they are a "buying niche" and know their spending habits a bit.

              Develop a web presence - and then decide your marketing plan. You can spy on others in similar niches and see how they monetize on the niche to get some ideas.

              Then go market the crap out of it.

              Stay out of the WSO's, etc. Only purchase things you have determined will actually give you quicker knowledge on a specific topic or are real tools to help.
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              • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
                Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

                What method exactly? The method of making 4500 a month without employees?

                So you want to make 150 bucks a day?

                There are so many ways to do this.

                I agree with Sylvia's post.

                There is no right method - only the method that you devise and works for you.

                Do give yourself some goals and deadlines though on deciding that direction you figure out. 9 months can go real quick when you are trying to get set up.

                Determine some fundamentals first.

                To make money, you have to sell something. So you can sell your own stuff, someone elses stuff, or a service.

                Then you need to determine the "starving niche" and research if they are a "buying niche" and know their spending habits a bit.

                Develop a web presence - and then decide your marketing plan. You can spy on others in similar niches and see how they monetize on the niche to get some ideas.

                Then go market the crap out of it.

                Stay out of the WSO's, etc. Only purchase things you have determined will actually give you quicker knowledge on a specific topic or are real tools to help.
                More great advice... thanks... this is really helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author RussRuffino
      Originally Posted by rockfuse View Post

      anything is possible but very difficult to go from knowing nothing to making 50k plus a year on a skill. You usually have learn a skill set for years , just like any other job or profession. I know some guys who are experts in fields who can make a ton of money on cb in a few months with a new product or anything else. But , they have years of experience and high capital to do it .

      I dont know want to be a downer but the reality is im there is no shortcuts just a lot of hard work and experience. Most will fail , but anyone can become successful with a lot of hard work, luck, capital and time. Few will be over night successes
      This is wrong on all counts. You can launch a brand-new product on
      Clickbank with no experience, no capital, and without being an expert. I know because I did it in September and today I made four figures off of one product.

      You can do it. It just comes down to who you want to listen to...the people who tell you it can't be done, or the people who are doing it right now, today.

      Russ
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by RussRuffino View Post

        This is wrong on all counts. You can launch a brand-new product on
        Clickbank with no experience, no capital, and without being an expert. I know because I did it in September and today I made four figures off of one product.

        You can do it. It just comes down to who you want to listen to...the people who tell you it can't be done, or the people who are doing it right now, today.

        Russ
        Thanks for driving home this point, Russ. So many people today still have this misconception that you need to be some published, world-class expert in order to be able to launch an information product on Clickbank or elsewhere on the internet.

        You do not need to be an expert with recognized credentials in order to sell something on the internet, all you really need to possess is more knowledge than your target market, and be able to explain it in an easy to understand manner to them via an ebook, audio, video, mind map, or any combination of these.

        Sure, it may be a little disconcerting in the beginning when you know next to nothing about Clickbank or publishing your product, but these are things you can learn and pick up along the way. Your focus should be on finding the right niche to target first, and then creating an information product that provides a solution to need(s) within that niche.

        Paul
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    interesting
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  • Profile picture of the author LuisHuete
    Hey,

    I should suggest you roll your sleeves up and get ready to learn and apply at a quick rate there are tons of resources, help, gurus and products out there but ultimately you need to take yourself to reach those goals.

    Find a hungry market..passionate, big in numbers, already buying stuff, etc.. Do your research use Google, ClickBank, Amazon, Bbay and magazine subscription sites to qualify the niche.

    Once you have decided what market your going to go into study your competitors. Do not try and be a new revolutionary thing stick to what works model there success and do not re invent the wheel especially when your starting out. Make money online then you can go into other things for now focus on reaching that goal. Once you researched your competitors maybe even bough the top 2-3 products in the niche, studied there product, sales page, sales funnel, etc. Decided what type of product you are going to create ( eBook, Audio, Video, Coaching). Develop the product yourself or outsource it depending on your budget ( Make a good product).

    Get web hosting and get a domain there are tons out there i like bluehost but thats just me. Write your sales page or maybe outsource it depending on your budget. If you have a shoe string budget no worries everyone has been there just look into a copy writing course or look online there are a ton of free resources. If you freeze up when you write just record yourself talking about the product. Then get it transcribed that way you wont stare at a blank page.

    BUILD A LIST! make an opt in page use aweber or icontact..again personal preference..write copy for the list building..opt-in copy and the follow up emails.

    You can find outsourcers at scriptlance.com for web page design, graphics, opt in boxes, audio and video editing and you can find writers and designers at guru.com

    Put your product up on Clickbank it's affordable and clickbank is pretty easy to deal with. Once your page is ready and you have tested everything is working and ready to go.

    Drive traffic..everyone knows this game is a hustle of traffic and conversion. there are multiple ways to get free traffic and paid traffic. Good ways to get free traffic is to do article marketing, networking in forums and social media. There are tons of places to submit articles and post in forums. Paid traffic is great when done right and when your not desperate and you can afford to test a little. Once you get the offer converting on cold traffic and you can prove the stats with screenshots reach out to affiliates and network in forums to build affiliates.

    Have a good sales funnel set in place with upsells and downsells to maximize your profits..

    hope this helped a little and gave you some direction there is no way i can write about everything in a quick post but i just remember starting and wish someone told me how it is. Work hard and the pay off is great and it will give you more freedom, fun and a life of pleasure.

    Good luck

    Luis
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    • Profile picture of the author Point Blank
      Originally Posted by LuisHuete View Post

      Hey,

      I should suggest you roll your sleeves up and get ready to learn and apply at a quick rate there are tons of resources, help, gurus and products out there but ultimately you need to take yourself to reach those goals.

      Find a hungry market..passionate, big in numbers, already buying stuff, etc.. Do your research use Google, ClickBank, Amazon, Bbay and magazine subscription sites to qualify the niche.

      Once you have decided what market your going to go into study your competitors. Do not try and be a new revolutionary thing stick to what works model there success and do not re invent the wheel especially when your starting out. Make money online then you can go into other things for now focus on reaching that goal. Once you researched your competitors maybe even bough the top 2-3 products in the niche, studied there product, sales page, sales funnel, etc. Decided what type of product you are going to create ( eBook, Audio, Video, Coaching). Develop the product yourself or outsource it depending on your budget ( Make a good product).

      Get web hosting and get a domain there are tons out there i like bluehost but thats just me. Write your sales page or maybe outsource it depending on your budget. If you have a shoe string budget no worries everyone has been there just look into a copy writing course or look online there are a ton of free resources. If you freeze up when you write just record yourself talking about the product. Then get it transcribed that way you wont stare at a blank page.

      BUILD A LIST! make an opt in page use aweber or icontact..again personal preference..write copy for the list building..opt-in copy and the follow up emails.

      You can find outsourcers at scriptlance.com for web page design, graphics, opt in boxes, audio and video editing and you can find writers and designers at guru.com

      Put your product up on Clickbank it's affordable and clickbank is pretty easy to deal with. Once your page is ready and you have tested everything is working and ready to go.

      Drive traffic..everyone knows this game is a hustle of traffic and conversion. there are multiple ways to get free traffic and paid traffic. Good ways to get free traffic is to do article marketing, networking in forums and social media. There are tons of places to submit articles and post in forums. Paid traffic is great when done right and when your not desperate and you can afford to test a little. Once you get the offer converting on cold traffic and you can prove the stats with screenshots reach out to affiliates and network in forums to build affiliates.

      Have a good sales funnel set in place with upsells and downsells to maximize your profits..

      hope this helped a little and gave you some direction there is no way i can write about everything in a quick post but i just remember starting and wish someone told me how it is. Work hard and the pay off is great and it will give you more freedom, fun and a life of pleasure.

      Good luck

      Luis
      Great Advice, think about this for a moment, if there are people making money on CB, then so can you.
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  • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
    Paul, Luis, Russ, etc... thanks for all the advice ... pretty soon, I am going to pick a direction/project and work on it for a while and stay focused... that may mean even staying away from this great forum for a few weeks while I develop some momentum the ability to stay on track.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by mh77mail View Post

      Paul, Luis, Russ, etc... thanks for all the advice ... pretty soon, I am going to pick a direction/project and work on it for a while and stay focused... that may mean even staying away from this great forum for a few weeks while I develop some momentum the ability to stay on track.
      Good for you - do what's necessary to remain on track and build momentum on your project. You know what must happen within this 9 month timeframe, so don't let anything stand in the way of your goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jess Heng
    You don't have to know everything to do IM.
    Leverage is the key.
    Focus on Speed and providing Values.
    Find the 'hot button', build trust, don't think of the rewards.
    When you have found something that works, keep doing it until it stop giving u the result u want
    Do what the successful Inter

    Result --> The Rewards will coming knocking on your door :0
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul_Evans
    Mark, tons of great suggestions in this thread. Plenty to get you going. Luis has a solid approach above.

    So I won't help you wade into another pond, but here's the thought that you and everyone else on this blog already know.

    Choose ONE METHOD and get your tail in gear and hustle.

    A couple of month's ago Jimmy D Brown (shameless name dropping) and I spent the day brainstorming a new product. While we worked we started listing various ways to make money online.

    We figured there were around 33.

    And would you like to know which one works the BEST every single time?

    RIGHT!!!!!

    The one you focus on with blinders. Nothing else exists.

    Listen, Jimmy is about as out of touch as anyone I've seen in I.M. He had no clue about 2010's mega-launch of $1997 guru products. He was asking me about several of the "big names" and how they are doing.

    Now let me get even more shameless...

    Several of our mutual big name friends call and ask me about Jimmy. "How's he doing?" "Does he still exist?"

    JDB focuses on his model to the exclusion of EVERYTHING else.

    $4500 in 9 months?

    Easy.

    Which method.

    It's doesn't matter. They all work.

    If you're having trouble finding the route that fits you best and you've got 45 minutes check out Jeremy's Letter. It's free. No opt-in.

    Peace,
    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
      Originally Posted by Paul_Evans View Post

      Mark, tons of great suggestions in this thread. Plenty to get you going. Luis has a solid approach above.

      So I won't help you wade into another pond, but here's the thought that you and everyone else on this blog already know.

      Choose ONE METHOD and get your tail in gear and hustle.

      A couple of month's ago Jimmy D Brown (shameless name dropping) and I spent the day brainstorming a new product. While we worked we started listing various ways to make money online.

      We figured there were around 33.

      And would you like to know which one works the BEST every single time?

      RIGHT!!!!!

      The one you focus on with blinders. Nothing else exists.

      Listen, Jimmy is about as out of touch as anyone I've seen in I.M. He had no clue about 2010's mega-launch of $1997 guru products. He was asking me about several of the "big names" and how they are doing.

      Now let me get even more shameless...

      Several of our mutual big name friends call and ask me about Jimmy. "How's he doing?" "Does he still exist?"

      JDB focuses on his model to the exclusion of EVERYTHING else.

      $4500 in 9 months?

      Easy.

      Which method.

      It's doesn't matter. They all work.

      If you're having trouble finding the route that fits you best and you've got 45 minutes check out Jeremy's Letter. It's free. No opt-in.

      Peace,
      Paul
      Paul. I did read Jeremy's letter a couple of weeks ago... You actually replied to a note that I sent and offered some good advice. I really appreciate it.

      Thanks,
      Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
      Originally Posted by Paul_Evans View Post


      ...Choose ONE METHOD and get your tail in gear and hustle...

      ...JDB focuses on his model to the exclusion of EVERYTHING else....

      Peace,
      Paul
      I totally agree.

      My main delimas is... I feel like blogging / affiliate marketing may be more my style right now... but whenever everyone suggests creating my own digital products/continuity program etc... it definitely gets me thinking that I could probably do great at that and get into profit faster. I am good at researching and repackaging info into user-friendly form.

      Yaro's sales page for the blog mastermind program does not really talk about creating products. So, I'm wondering if there is a program like his, with his style / experience / depth / content-focus plus a focus on creating digital products.

      Thanks,

      Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
    Well, it seems that marketing Amazon products using niche sites (quality ones) and Product creation are probably the two options that seem doable.

    Being an Amazon affiliate sounds pretty easy... I think I write pretty good reviews. I'm just concerned about sustainability and changes in the market hurting Amazon affiliates, not to mention Nexus laws... Anybody want to chime in on that perspective? Should I just diversify up front and not put all my eggs in the Amazon basket... does anyone had specific advice for trying to work with multiple vendors like Amazon, EPN, CJ, etc?

    Product creation sounds more profitable, but more challenging... but probably more exciting too... If I can find some little sub niches to create products in. Anyone here really good or know someone really good at helping take little bits of knowledge if your not an expert and making great products?

    I think I'm getting close to taking action... just some final decisions / goals to set.

    Thanks,
    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesRiley
    I saw try Auto Affiliate Income, its about using Docs/slides
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  • Profile picture of the author rainman
    Originally Posted by mh77mail View Post

    I need some recommendations for a good IM teaching program with a community specifically focused on that method...

    I have always been a jack of all trades, master of none type of person jumping from one thing to the next. I get bored easily, and would rather get something built or improved and then start on the next project.
    ADD? ADHD?

    Dude, settle down and drive some traffic or outsource it to someone...

    OR:

    Come back here a year from now with the same report!
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    • Profile picture of the author altitudemarketer
      Originally Posted by rainman View Post

      ADD? ADHD?

      Dude, settle down and drive some traffic or outsource it to someone...

      OR:

      Come back here a year from now with the same report!
      You caught me... I definitely have a lot of ADHD traits. One counselor called me "Very right-brained" which is why I hate the rules and regulations of corporate America so much. I am "in the zone" when I am designing / planning and making things happen that others are unable to...

      So I am often guilty of not taking action and getting stuck... but when I have taken action, I surprise myself at what I can accomplish; and I am able to hyper-focus and go to town.

      I believe you are correct... I need to settle down, and start taking action with some simple steps.

      I just need to get Laser-focused and have enough belief to shut out all the distractions.

      Thanks for everyone's input.

      Mark
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