Amazon commission UK - Sell £1,000 product - earn £7 - Not cool!

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In 2010 I started to see some good success with ranking websites & gaining commission from Amazon.

Going into 2011 I have big plans with Amazon sites but I just found out something really bad about the commission structure in the UK.

I spent a lot of time building a website that promotes produces around £400 & just last month I sold an item at around £300. This was great – I thought!

When I looked at the commission for this £300 product I received commission of only 2.74% so I only got £7 for the sale!

Apparently Amazon UK cap commission at £7 regardless of what the item is or how much it cost... now I'm wondering if it's going to be possible to reach my Amazon income goals in 2011.

Even if I sell something at £2,000... commission will be £7.

I built this site thinking I was going to receive around £15 per sale.

The UK Amazon commission sucks in comparison to the US.

This has put a BIG dent in my plans!

Is there anyone in the UK making a good income from Amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    I switched from amazon to ebay on any products that I can. I use a mix of ebay, amazon and adsense depending on what it is and which place offers the best deal.

    I have had some good months from ebay partner network, much better than anything I have had from amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author rockfuse
      wow I always thought ebay was horrible. I use amazon in the usa and its great sorry to hear that the zon sucks so much in the uk. Why not just sell less expensive items. what is the commission structure on everything ? I found out that I could sell a lot of medium range produts around a 100 and sell a lot of it and it makes good money doing it that way.
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      • Profile picture of the author wtatlas
        Hello,

        I'm also based in the UK and have discovered the same thing about Amazon UK. I now have two Amazon accounts - one with Amazon.com and one with Amazon.co.uk. This is quite acceptable to Amazon - in fact they told me to do this.

        Now I target both areas with different websites. So far I have found the US market to be more responsive. Might be worth trying - at least Amazon.com rewards you for selling more!
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM View Post

      I switched from amazon to ebay on any products that I can. I use a mix of ebay, amazon and adsense depending on what it is and which place offers the best deal.

      I have had some good months from ebay partner network, much better than anything I have had from amazon.
      Thanks for your reply.

      How does the ebay commission work?

      Is it PPC or commission per sale?
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      • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
        Originally Posted by BarryOnline View Post

        Thanks for your reply.

        How does the ebay commission work?

        Is it PPC or commission per sale?
        They display it as ppc but its calculated from sale, i think they give you 50% of the commission or something similar.

        All I know is that it works and looking at my reports I am making anywhere from £3-£40 per sale. Plus its usually cheaper on ebay than on amazon or on the sites advertising on adwords so I feel the conversion rate is much better. I have had amazon sites with zero sales start making money the day I switched to ebay.

        I find that ebay is more of a honey trap for people than amazon. I personally can't look at ebay without loosing an hour browsing around and probably buying something i dont really need.

        Depends on the product though, in some cases amazon is better, in some cases ebay is. Its not difficult to split test.
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        • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
          I promote Amazon UK and although the rates seem low, it's so easy to make sales once you get people to click on your links that commission can really build up. Continue building traffic to your sites and earnings continue to grow.

          For those who say switch to the US site there is a matter of paying large fees to cash US dollar cheques in the UK if you haven't been able to set up a US bank account. If Amazon payed commission into Paypal it would be easier.

          matt5409 - There is nothing wrong with promoting albums, especially as they have higher priced linking products like mp3 players, creative jukeboxes etc. The more items you sell the higher your commision percentage gets. So on the first day of the month somebody might decide to buy an album but then an mp3 player catches their eye. The next thing you know they have bought the mp3 player then 20 mp3 downloads. You have 21 sales from the same person not one sale so your percentage rises to the next level. Things like that do happen.
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

            For those who say switch to the US site there is a matter of paying large fees to cash US dollar cheques in the UK if you haven't been able to set up a US bank account. If Amazon payed commission into Paypal it would be easier.
            The fee is only around £10 also you can change the payment threshold so they don't pay out until you've reached a certain amount. Unless your relying on Amazon as your main income source, you may as well increase the threshold to around $3000 or so. That is what i intend to do.
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            • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              The fee is only around £10 also you can change the payment threshold so they don't pay out until you've reached a certain amount. Unless your relying on Amazon as your main income source, you may as well increase the threshold to around $3000 or so. That is what i intend to do.
              My bank charged £25 the last time I cashed a dollar cheque and tight me thought it was a rip off so I am going to use my much lower US earnings for gift vouchers for my family in the US. I'm happy with promoting the UK site mainly.
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          • Profile picture of the author gordonmartin2013
            You still selling on Amazon Patricia, it is Gordon here from the good old days of Ayaw :-)

            Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

            I promote Amazon UK and although the rates seem low, it's so easy to make sales once you get people to click on your links that commission can really build up. Continue building traffic to your sites and earnings continue to grow.

            For those who say switch to the US site there is a matter of paying large fees to cash US dollar cheques in the UK if you haven't been able to set up a US bank account. If Amazon payed commission into Paypal it would be easier.

            matt5409 - There is nothing wrong with promoting albums, especially as they have higher priced linking products like mp3 players, creative jukeboxes etc. The more items you sell the higher your commision percentage gets. So on the first day of the month somebody might decide to buy an album but then an mp3 player catches their eye. The next thing you know they have bought the mp3 player then 20 mp3 downloads. You have 21 sales from the same person not one sale so your percentage rises to the next level. Things like that do happen.
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            • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
              Originally Posted by gordonmartin2013 View Post

              You still selling on Amazon Patricia, it is Gordon here from the good old days of Ayaw :-)
              You realize this thread is 3 years old don't you lol You'll probably have better luck sending a PM.
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              • Profile picture of the author gordonmartin2013
                Yes, I do realise this is an old thread and I will be sending a pm, it was in the olden days I knew Patricia :-)

                By the way if she has subscribed to the thread she will answer, despite the age of the thread, but thanks for bringing this to my attention anyway.

                Happy Christmas My Friend

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  • Profile picture of the author julesw
    I am in uk but use amazon uk and us links throughout.

    I do it manually but there is a WP plug in that will offer up the right link depending on the IP address.

    I go for volume so only get five pounds average sale but still did a $600 month on a single niche site last year. Don't have a tonne of traffic just very targeted seo wise to buyer intentions.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    I think it sucks big time!

    I have not used Amazon in ages and with their extremely low commission, I would not recommend anyone be used in this way. Most web site owners would have to drive enormous amounts of traffic to get a good living with them.

    Not worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
    This has really got me down because I know I was set to make a full time living from Amazon in 2011 if the commission structure had been the same as the US.

    I'm just going to have to think about this & re plan over the next few days to see what I can come up with.

    I'm not giving up on this – I'm going to make this work somehow.
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    • Profile picture of the author Young Samurai
      Just started to built a few sites focusing on Amazon in last couple of months.

      Through the WF I discovered there is no point in targeting UK with high price items, because of commission structure.

      If you can rank an Amazon focused site in UK you can almost certainly do the same in US (I find UK is sometimes harder to rank well in even though smaller market.)
      Amazon.com offers a larger market with potentially more sales and greater commission.

      Don't despair. At least you have discovered this problem before you invested anymore time in Amazon.uk.
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    • Profile picture of the author matt5409
      Originally Posted by BarryOnline View Post

      This has really got me down because I know I was set to make a full time living from Amazon in 2011 if the commission structure had been the same as the US.

      I'm just going to have to think about this & re plan over the next few days to see what I can come up with.

      I'm not giving up on this - I'm going to make this work somehow.
      This sucks very, very much. I recently launched heartmusic.co.uk based entirely around amazon.co.uk. I know my sales will unlikely warrant a commission of £7 anyway (album sales) but should somebody buy a large purchase along with it, I want to be rewarded!

      heavily considering switching to play.com affiliate programme...
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    • Profile picture of the author trafficforfree
      Originally Posted by BarryOnline View Post

      This has really got me down because I know I was set to make a full time living from Amazon in 2011 if the commission structure had been the same as the US.

      I'm just going to have to think about this & re plan over the next few days to see what I can come up with.

      I'm not giving up on this - I'm going to make this work somehow.
      If you are not using auto blogging, I would use deep links from the UK site "paidonresults" affiliate site. You will find lots of products for your niche and normally they pay 10%. I made a killing at xmas with them.

      Good luck

      Danny - Nottingham
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  • Profile picture of the author mediasurgeons
    If your using Amazon UK it is really a case of needing those £7 commissions to convert at higher than 1%. If you can bring in 1000 visitors a day across 10-20 sites and convert at around the Amazon average of 5% you can earn very good money.

    Yes the USA Amazon offers more in the way of commision and market than the UK but most of there high ticket items are much cheaper so cannot say I agree entirely with what is being said here.

    It doesn't matter if you are doing UK or USA Amazon, Clickbank or Adsense you still need multiple sites to generate a good income.
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by jacobjoseph View Post

      If your using Amazon UK it is really a case of needing those £7 commissions to convert at higher than 1%. If you can bring in 1000 visitors a day across 10-20 sites and convert at around the Amazon average of 5% you can earn very good money.

      Yes the USA Amazon offers more in the way of commision and market than the UK but most of there high ticket items are much cheaper so cannot say I agree entirely with what is being said here.

      It doesn't matter if you are doing UK or USA Amazon, Clickbank or Adsense you still need multiple sites to generate a good income.
      Thanks for your post.

      I planed on building around 10 sites targeting Amazon UK products. I have 4 sites at the moment, one of my sites is on page one of Google position 2# & receives just under 200 visits a day. The site makes sales every other day but the products are around £50 so commission is not great.

      I think I could quite easily bring in 1000 visitors across 10 sites. My sites click through rate & conversions are quite good also so I confident I could make profitable sites selling products that receive the £7 commission.

      5% of 1000 = 50

      50 people at £7 commission per sale = £350 per day

      Hmm... this isn't looking so bad now.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediasurgeons
    No infact £7 a sale is not too bad and even if you only converted at a modest 2% £14 would be the same as a lot of Clickbank products.

    People are too quick to write Amazon off. Yes they probably could be more generous with their commission (The amount they rake in from their own Marketplace alone is enough to keep them in diamonds and furs for years). The point is Amazon has a lot more to offer than any other site in the world.

    Firstly they are the most trusted online seller on the planet, of course you could risk diverting these people to electronicsrus.co.uk (Just an example) but will they want to buy from there? Probably not.

    Add the fact that they are usually the cheapest, offer free delivery and the majority of people already have an account there the people you refer are actually hard pushed to buy from anywhere else once they are there.

    In my opinion we are all quite fortunate Amazon provide this service because they don't need affiliates anymore. And hey, even if it takes 20 sites to bring in those 1000 or 2000 visitors a day you need it is hardly the end of the world
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Why don't you use the US Amazon Associate's program? You can still use it if you live in the uk.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediasurgeons
    Your going to shift a hell of a lot of albums! Are you targeting any keywords Matt?
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    • Profile picture of the author matt5409
      Originally Posted by jacobjoseph View Post

      Your going to shift a hell of a lot of albums! Are you targeting any keywords Matt?
      sarcasm?

      i'm unsure at this stage which keywords to target. anything outside of "artist name REVIEW" or "album name REVIEW" seems a bit pointless. hoping to rank quite well for lesser-known artists with low search volumes.
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
    I think also when I think about this more.

    If I was to sell a $300 product through Amazon US I would receive $15 under the 5% commission rate.

    I would then need to convert that $15 into GBP so that would work out around £9.

    The currency conversion takes a chunk out the commission.

    Even if I earn £100 a day with Amazon UK - that would be great & it's very possible.

    It's a shame that Amazon UK is not the same as US but I'm certain I can still have success from the UK alone, now that I've had time to think about it & read some of these helpful replys.
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  • Profile picture of the author shayman
    Is there no way that you can just switch the site over to the US Amazon or is the product UK only?
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by shayman View Post

      Is there no way that you can just switch the site over to the US Amazon or is the product UK only?
      All my site domains are .uk & IP's are UK based so ranking in Google US will be highly unlikely.

      But as I've mentioned the currency conversion will take a chunk out of the commission & I now beleive it's very possible to continue what I'm doing to make a good income from Amazon UK alone.
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      • Profile picture of the author matt5409
        Originally Posted by BarryOnline View Post

        All my site domains are .uk & IP's are UK based so ranking in Google US will be highly unlikely.

        But as I've mentioned the currency conversion will take a chunk out of the commission & I now beleive it's very possible to continue what I'm doing to make a good income from Amazon UK alone.
        What is your website? Wouldn't mind taking a look as I've just launched an amazon uk affiliate site too PM me if you dont want to share publicly
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  • Profile picture of the author tonio79
    I agree with some of the other posts above in that Amazon does have that repect from the public and lots of people have accounts there......so as long as you keep driving the traffic there you will make sales. I know their conversion rates are fairly good too.

    From the maths above as well you demonstrated a target.....i think £350 a day is not too bad at all.....BRILLIANT in fact. You wouldn't turn down over £10k a month would you!
    Keep going and good luck in 2011 and your efforts.
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    • Profile picture of the author livethedream
      i made my first sales at amazon this month, sold 4 items totalling nearly $300 and made $6... not brilliant but i made a sale and i am happy. What i like is the person purchased an item related to my site and them purchased three other items that had nothing to do with my site,,, how good is that... !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author tonio79
    Well done on that!
    Congrats.
    Nothing beats that first feeling of a sale online, no matter what size.
    Well done......and now keep going and doing what you have been doing!
    Happy new year!
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  • Profile picture of the author mediasurgeons
    @Matt5409 - Was not sarcastic, just fact. If your going down the Amazon path you literally have to target £200/$200+ products to make it worth your while. I love music and would to write about Albums all day but I could do it for the next 10 years and it would not pay my bills. Keep it as a hobby or use it as a tester by all means but don't put everything you have into promoting £10 albums for 40p a sale.

    @Barryonline - Glad you have come around to the idea. Everything you are talking about is certainly possible so do not let the Amazon commission rate stop you. If you want to PM me I may be able to offer you some advice (Think you will find some PMs from me in your inbox anyway RE bounce rates so I owe you a favour.)

    @Livethedream - Congrats on your first few sales. $6 is better than nothing and I would hazard a bet that most IMer's do not even make $1 so that in itself is an achievement. Should allow you to work more freely as the belief is now there.
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    • Profile picture of the author matt5409
      Originally Posted by jacobjoseph View Post

      @Matt5409 - Was not sarcastic, just fact. If your going down the Amazon path you literally have to target £200/$200+ products to make it worth your while. I love music and would to write about Albums all day but I could do it for the next 10 years and it would not pay my bills. Keep it as a hobby or use it as a tester by all means but don't put everything you have into promoting £10 albums for 40p a sale.
      it's a fair point, but i also intend to drop in some reviews of higher end products like instruments, mixing desks etc. this should boost things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kev Stevenson
    I target some products at £120-£140 to max out commisions where poss.

    I do remember the good 'ol days before the £7 cap! No Limits...

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    Do you use some kind of eBay display/search widget?
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by Kev Stevenson View Post

      I target some products at £120-£140 to max out commisions where poss.

      I do remember the good 'ol days before the £7 cap! No Limits...
      When did they change to the £7 cap?

      Do you know why Amazon UK made this terrible change?
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    • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
      Originally Posted by Kev Stevenson View Post


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      Do you use some kind of eBay display/search widget?
      Yeah I use their widget. I have got PHPbay also but havent had a chance to split test it yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author asimbawany
    I think you should look for other affiliate programs for what ever your product is.
    you can easily find affiliate programs for products but you should choose only those products to promote which have good affiliate programs on other networks like cj, linkshare, shareasale, etc. You can find commissions as high as 10% and some even give recurring commissions on on repeat purchases by your customers. Cookie tracking is another advantage. I believe amazon only gives you one day cookie (not sure about this though)... but most of the other affiliate programs would range anywhere from 15-60 days.
    True, conversions will not be as high as amazon, but commissions would be much better and I think you will end up making more money overall. As for conversions, you can test and tweek between several ecommerce stores to see which converts best and promote that more heavily. Another advantage is that you get affiliate commissions for ALL purchases your referred customer makes while buying on the ecommerce store. Again, im not sure if that is a feature with Amazon. This is definitely a BIG plus if you're promoting an affiliate program with a 60day cookie and someone buys something else from that store maybe 45days after making the initial purchase.

    The downside with using these is that you need to do more digging while doing your initial research but its certainly worthwhile. A lot of these stores are also very reputable in their respective niches. For example;
    drugstore.com for health products.. almost as cheap as amazon and sometimes even cheaper...
    babyearth.com for baby products... again very price competitive, excellent customer service.. a little low on commission though (5%)

    So I highly recommend going after these affiliate programs.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kev Stevenson
    The £7 cap was introduced in 2005 - firstly on electronics, then extended to other products.

    At the time I was sending PPC traffic direct to Amazon products - also no longer possible.

    Another UK affiliate opportunity to check out is AffiliateWindow.com
    Loads of UK household names & high street merchants are on there.

    Cookie lengths and commision % varies from merchant to merchant
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    There are so many other affiliate programs. Why not try Buy.com or something on CJ?
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  • Profile picture of the author mediasurgeons
    @PatriciaJ - I am glad someone agrees with my philosphy that Amazon UK ain't so bad but I have to disagree with the advice you have given Matt.

    There is just no way you can build a profitable site around what you have just said. Of course a lot of business is done on projections and assumptions but assuming that people that buy albums may also buy a high priced MP3 player is madness. There is literally no correlation between the two items.

    Yes as an Amazon affiliate you get bonuses when people buy other high priced items but you can't bank on it. I can assure you that promoting the higher priced items and having the odd person buy a dvd is much more profitable than hoping someone buying a £7.99 album also adds £400 worth of musical kit.

    For anyone considering Amazon I recommend this - How Much Did We Make on Amazon This Month? (Non affiliate link, just a blog)
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      Originally Posted by jacobjoseph View Post

      @PatriciaJ - I am glad someone agrees with my philosphy that Amazon UK ain't so bad but I have to disagree with the advice you have given Matt.

      There is just no way you can build a profitable site around what you have just said. Of course a lot of business is done on projections and assumptions but assuming that people that buy albums may also buy a high priced MP3 player is madness. There is literally no correlation between the two items.

      Yes as an Amazon affiliate you get bonuses when people buy other high priced items but you can't bank on it. I can assure you that promoting the higher priced items and having the odd person buy a dvd is much more profitable than hoping someone buying a £7.99 album also adds £400 worth of musical kit.

      For anyone considering Amazon I recommend this - How Much Did We Make on Amazon This Month? (Non affiliate link, just a blog)
      No you are wrong and it is ignorant calling somebody elses opinion or experiences madness. I was using that as an example, but it wasn't an assumption. That sort of thing happens as anybody who has been an Amazon affiliate for a while can tell you. Maybe I should have said that those type of sales were bonuses but it has happened often enough to me now that they are not so unexpected. It also helps when a niche has got lots of linking or related products. Some of my sites are low cost products that still get higher cost sales, some are for high cost products that get low cost sales too because you need one to use the other.

      So if somebody has a site promoting albums it would certainly do no harm putting links to music related products of varying prices on the same site and as we know those who click the links get steered towards other products on Amazon anyway.

      You never can tell with Amazon unless you experiment. I've seen posts on here telling others to avoid certain niches because they don't make money and I know that they do. So we all have different experiences.
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  • Profile picture of the author julesw
    I think Amazon converts really well, i've tried play.com and others in uk but I have amazon convert at 20% sometime, but definitely a volume game to get the small payments to amount to anything.

    in the US i find the amazon conversion way lower, don't know the market so well but wonder if people look at amazon then buy at somewhere like best buy?

    one tip works for me is look out for the no brainer discount offers they do, eg when they chop £50 off something good... I've used adwords to target a good quality landing page then onto Amazon and while the offer lasts get a 50% conversion
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Asim and Jennifer have the right idea. Find other affiliate programs selling the same product and split test them against Amazon.co.uk. Find out which one makes you the most income regardless of commission rate.

    Google the "product name" +affiliate or similar. You'll be suprised what's available.

    If you find a product that sells really well then approach the manufacture directly and see if they have or know of an affiliate program that you can use.

    Also work out if there is any price benfefit (with shipping) to buy from the US. You could use this an an option for those who are happy to wait a week or 2 to save money.

    You need to also remember that Amazon brings in sales for indirect products. This will be a huge chunk of your Amazon income. Take that into account when working out your earnings.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediasurgeons
    "No your wrong" is quite an ignorant comment in itself. Telling a newbie to promote low ticket high competition items and "hope" that people buy larger items that are not really related with it is nonsense. How long do you honestly think it will be before they give up on the whole IM business model with that philosphy? Not very long.

    I'm not disputing that people don't buy high ticket items whilst shopping for other things but it would not be a regular occurance until you have numerous sites up.

    I also agree that adding links to related products would do no harm but it would be more sensible to have a site that promotes products for more music buyers and products for musicians. There is a difference.

    Anyway, I am happy to agree to disagree
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    Ebay UK is ok... not great but ok!

    Making money with amazon is a numbers game and I don't look at the fee structure... it will only depress me I just look at the time it takes to build a site and the amount it makes that is what worries me and to be honest once a site is built in 3 months it has more than paid for itself and after that its pure profit :-)

    Just keep building sites, I have to agree that getting US cheques is a complete pain the butt but you gotta do what you gotta do :-) My clickbank cheque is the same.. only costs me a tenner to cash a $2k cheque I think so not worried too much about that :-)

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      ...in 3 months it has more than paid for itself and after that its pure profit :-)

      Just keep building sites, I have to agree that getting US cheques is a complete pain the butt but you gotta do what you gotta do :-) My clickbank cheque is the same.. only costs me a tenner to cash a $2k cheque I think so not worried too much about that :-)

      Danny

      Low commissions but high conversions
      You rock, Danny! Great advice.



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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    I reckon Amazon is still a goldmine and I'm sorry for barry. Hope things will turn around for you soon!

    Yes even if you are promoting lower priced items, it is still likely that customers will also buy some higher priced items because they happened to see another product in the same niche or just some random product which they suddenly thought they need it. This is absolutely possible.

    Don't give up on building Amazon sites, do proper due diligence in terms of researches, and i think we are quite well taken care of.

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    • Profile picture of the author Rachel28
      Hi Guys, I've been following this thread with interest for a couple of days, and due to lack of experience and ability to add value I've been hesitant to post. I've been dipping in and out of the forum for nearly a couple of YEARS trying to devise a strategy then suffering from complete info overload, then talking myself out of it. Like Barry, I decided that amazon was the way forward for me and have been soaking up as much as I could before finally getting round to researching a product, writing a couple of keyword rich articles which I submitted to ezine yesterday and creating a review blog. I've used squiddo as for me it's the easiest, and by far the hardest part has been just DOING something, although I know WP is supposed to be the best. My plan was to drive traffic from EZ to the blog. So as a UK based affiliate I've signed up to Amazon UK, but here's my question, if the articles rank in the US and send traffic to the review, then to my amazon UK link, I'm losing these potential US sales?? Would it be better not to rely on articles but to create blogs that rank with a .co.uk domain, so I'm only targeting uk and therefore not losing sales? I can find very little info about the ebay affiliate prog, other than they send the traffic to the appropriate country and pay into paypal which is extremely attractive and I've wondered about changing the links in my blog to ebay. I like amazon and feel I should stick with it but while I'm in the early days of working out a strategy I need to know if I'm going to be wasting my time. What a huge shame. I should probably get comfortable with WP and find out about the plugin that determins whether to send to .COM or .UK, but I'd much rather just get paid into my bank instead of getting checks.After creating my first site I now feel incredibly hooked and can't wait to get going with my new products but not sure how to proceed now.
      Many Thanks for any thought on this possibly garbled stream of consciousness,
      Rachel
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    rachel - your articles will rank in both UK and US sides of google, if the search term is appropriate. google does not tend to be choosy about location, unless of course you end up in google places!
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    • Profile picture of the author Rachel28
      Hi, thanks, I've kinda banked on them ranking in the US but my worry is that I'll lose those sales being just a UK affiliate. I actally signed up for the ebay partner network yesterday and they've asked for confirmation that my URL, or domain I've provided (squidoo blog) belongs to me. This is how inexperienced I am, I'm not sure if it does, I probably have to buy one? I have a rule with myself I'm not going to spend any money on this until I've made my first penny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_A
    I've setup a few amazon UK sites in the past but the 1 day cookie and poor returns means i've just ditched them now to focus on other projects.

    I've still got a lingerie site which brings in around £20 a month so it's worth keeping, but to be honest I couldn't bring myself to throwing that one away!

    The Templates seem to convert well though so if anyone's interested in them let me know and you can have them for very little...
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
    I'm not letting the £7 cap stop me, I'm still very confident that I can make a good income from Amazon.

    I have 5 sites at the moment & I one is in position #1 on Google for it's main keyword.

    This site alone is set to make around £300 this month.

    I'm working on gettin the other 4 sites to position #1 in Google.

    Building a great Amazon income is looking good for me this year
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    • Profile picture of the author matt5409
      Originally Posted by BarryOnline View Post

      I'm not letting the £7 cap stop me, I'm still very confident that I can make a good income from Amazon.

      I have 5 sites at the moment & I one is in position #1 on Google for it's main keyword.

      This site alone is set to make around £300 this month.

      I'm working on gettin the other 4 sites to position #1 in Google.

      Building a great Amazon income is looking good for me this year
      barry that's fantastic. i set up my sites a couple of weeks ago and have two sales reaching a measly £3.40, but now i have proved the model to myself i'm just going to up my game. to reach £300/month from just one site must feel great!
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  • Profile picture of the author unbrokenspirit
    try moreniche, i used to join but never have any income with it, as in the past my blog never have a big deal traffic :p

    it said 50% commission
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  • Profile picture of the author Giani
    Its volume with Amazon which builds the earnings. Try niches in $150+ value products.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    I was just talking about this earlier today in another thread. The commissions cap with Amazon Associates UK is a little bit - how shall we say - on the poopy side, really.

    However, as another member (paulie888) said/confirmed, the fact that so many keyword terms command good search-volume in the UK, yet have much weaker competition in Google's UK index, sort of offsets this.

    In other words, what you miss out on in terms of maximum $$$ per sale, you can (with the right approach) make up for with increased, easier-to-harness traffic, and go on to make many more sales. So I suppose, in some ways, it has the potential to "even-out".

    I've personally banked quite nicely from Amazon Associates UK, myself, so the cap definitely isn't a turn-off to me, but I do see that the whole thing would obviously be far more appealing if the cap didn't exist, or was at least raised somewhat.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjm2788
    It's definitley not ideal but the UK market still has a lot of great un taped niches so i still go for it its just something you have to accept if your targeting the UK. I'm not gong to complain to me it's still another income stream. There are plenty of networks for physical products in the UK that offer uncapped commisions try buy.at or cj.om if it bothers you too much.
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    good to see some UK people in this thread - where have you been hiding??
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    • Profile picture of the author Rachel28
      Without sounding too dumb...if I buy .co.uk domains...will they rank better in the uk? therefore ensuring me targeted uk traffic..
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      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
        Originally Posted by Rachel28 View Post

        Without sounding too dumb...if I buy .co.uk domains...will they rank better in the uk? therefore ensuring me targeted uk traffic..
        You don't need a .uk domain to rank well in Google's UK index, but it certainly won't hurt - and why not go for one, if the UK is your target market?

        Google does like to return sites with a .uk domain, or sites hosted on UK-based IP addresses, for searches initiated from the UK via google.co.uk. On that basis, anything you can do to "tell them" that that's the audience to whom your site is relevant, is a good thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
    That's an excellent answer from DireStraits, I've adopted both those options with my sites.


    The more SEO boxes you can tick the better!
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    don't forget also links FROM .co.uk domains can carry more weight than other domains (if comparable to another otherwise identical site that is)
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  • Profile picture of the author cookingdiva
    Amazon US also a few items such as Laptop Notebook and a few high ticket items capped at $25, meaning someone bought $1300 laptop, commission would be $25. I am just saying US also has low rates too.

    Amazon cons:

    low % commission overall
    lower on a few expensive items
    24 hours only cookie
    person comes again after closing the amazon in 5 minutes and buy something you may not make money

    Pro for amazon:

    well known brand, everyone knows
    all type of products there
    conversion is much better compared to other estores.
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    • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
      Originally Posted by newnoob View Post

      Amazon US also a few items such as Laptop Notebook and a few high ticket items capped at $25, meaning someone bought $1300 laptop, commission would be $25. I am just saying US also has low rates too.

      Amazon cons:

      low % commission overall
      lower on a few expensive items
      24 hours only cookie
      person comes again after closing the amazon in 5 minutes and buy something you may not make money

      Pro for amazon:

      well known brand, everyone knows
      all type of products there
      conversion is much better compared to other estores.
      That's just the risk of any affiliate marketing... you just got to do what you need to do. Nothing is perfect nothing is ideal but you play the best hand you have and hope that its a winner.

      Amazon commissions are low on some niches but if you avoid those niches.... you will make a lot of money
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
    complete waste of time - though if you target the us, canada, australia etc then I guess it could add up. Either way though I can't see it as a good long term strategy
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  • Profile picture of the author NeilMoran
    I'm not getting this cap for some reason. I only have one Amazon site which I added products to last month and it's selling amazon UK products, I live in the UK and I'm getting 4% commission, so far this month I sold one product for £899 and one for £699 along with quite a few lesser priced products, I got 4% on all of them.

    Is this cap ONLY for Amazon products and not third party products? All my sales have been from third party products so far.

    BTW, for anyone thinking you need a really great site to convert Amazon, you don't, I only added Amazon as a test to a really crappy looking adsense site to see if I could make more selling products, the first thing people see is a nice big link saying something like "Click here to see our latest bargains" this takes them to an Amazon "Bestsellers" page. Directly under the link I have a search widget displaying a load of related products, under the widget I have my article.

    I would say about have of my sales aren't even related to the niche I'm promoting which is one thing I like about Amazon.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      I am sure most of you know this but it makes sense to target some really low cost Amazon products, they quickly bump you up to the full commission rate and no one EVER only spends a £1/$1 on amazon they will almost always tack on a few books or games etc
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    A $7 cap is insane. I wonder why they have a policy like that. I imagine they'd prefer people to sell high-ticket items. It seems like a silly limit designed to just scrape more money off the backs of their affiliates. Maybe it has something to do with shipping costs.
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