Please show me that it really is possible - $500 a day consistently

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This isnt a plea - I just figured Id ask.

I know every now and then members here post, "Just had my first $300 day...", which is always great.

Infact, Ive had $2,000+ days - BUT NOT CONSISTENTLY.

So....

Who here is HONESTLY making $500 a day or more CONSISTENTLY, on average.

Ive just calculated my daily average and its a bit disheartening to say the least.

Can someone, ANYONE show me that it really is possible to make over $500 a day CONSISTENTLY.

Id be very grateful to hear any suggestions, methods or even proof of earnings (controversial around here I know :rolleyes

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author aaron_nimocks
    Not me consistently.

    But yes I can produce the proof showing $2,500 days and $7,000 months ect.

    With website sales going up to $20,000 a month which is more than $500 a day.

    I am sure it is possible though like last year (sounds weird to say that) I went 2-3 months making $500+ a day if you average the month together. Then the cease and desist letter came and there went that.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks View Post

      Not me consistently.

      But yes I can produce the proof showing $2,500 days and $7,000 months ect.

      With website sales going up to $20,000 a month which is more than $500 a day.

      I am sure it is possible though like last year (sounds weird to say that) I went 2-3 months making $500+ a day if you average the month together. Then the cease and desist letter came and there went that.
      Thanks for your input Aaron. May I ask, was this income generated passively - through digital sales? Or were you providing services/physical products?
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      • Profile picture of the author aaron_nimocks
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        Thanks for your input Aaron. May I ask, was this income generated passively - through digital sales? Or were you providing services/physical products?
        Since the time has came and gone....

        It was through EPN directing traffic for people to buy P90X and also through The Biggest Loser Club.

        So those 2 combined made that income along with other smaller stuff that dealt with affiliate marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author JonMills
      Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks View Post


      I am sure it is possible though like last year (sounds weird to say that) I went 2-3 months making $500+ a day if you average the month together. Then the cease and desist letter came and there went that.
      LOL cease and desist.. classic!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Johnny, I don't personally, but you do have to spend money to make money. I don't know of anybody who earns $500+(regardless of what type of business they run) who doesn't invest their profits straight back into their business. You have to spend money and make money.

    A lot of people on this forum employ article marketing as their main business strategy, and needless to say, when you choose to play the SEO game and make your bottom line dependent on the whims of Google, earning that kind of money takes an extraordinary amount of time, dedication, and effort, with no real guarantee of success or ever reaching such financial heights even if you do make money.

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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      ...but you do have to spend money to make money.
      You also need a return on investment. This is partly why Im asking.

      Ive just launched 5 sites, 5 new products and invested around $4,000 in the last few weeks. Its still early days, but the returns just arent there.

      Im not losing hope, just looking for a mental boost.

      Its a bit disheartening when Im making such an effort, and the returns just arent happening.
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      • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        You also need a return on investment. This is partly why Im asking.

        Ive just launched 5 sites, 5 new products and invested around $4,000 in the last few weeks. Its still early days, but the returns just arent there.

        Im not losing hope, just looking for a mental boost.

        Its a bit disheartening when Im making such an effort, and the returns just arent happening.
        That is disheartening. 5 sites and 5 products is a lot to launch at one time. Maybe you can pick 2 and really focus on them and get them to make bank before focusing on the others.

        And if you have some folks you can trust you can always ask them to take a look and see how you can change things up so that you can possibly can get the desired returns.
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      • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        Ive just launched 5 sites, 5 new products and invested around $4,000 in the last few weeks. Its still early days, but the returns just arent there.
        Try spending $20K on a pallet of overstock goods that don't sell well and instead of seeing a big profit on eBay you have to dump them at or below cost at a local flea market.

        Not every product sells as well as you expect or want, even if you've made a significant investment in terms of time and money. That's just a fact of business.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
            Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post


            I think the key is picking one project and maximizing it. That's how I've had the most success so far. Basically take your project to where 99% of the people throw in the towel, then take it just a little bit further. Seems to work really well
            This idea has been mentioned before, but it sounds pretty good here. Pick one thing that makes money and do that. Become better at doing it more often.

            I like to write. So I learned to write in a particular way using a set of techniques that has made me a lot of money.

            But before I did that I had to learn to think in a particular way and I had to drop a lot of things that I was doing that were not profitable for me personally or financially.

            It was through letting go of a whole lot of stuff that I made enough room in my life and in my business to add more of the things I was doing to earn money.

            Part of bringing money in conssitently is to choose projects to do that are conssitent. taht is one reason why it is hard to make money on google trends kinds of sites without a lot of work. People do make a lot of money with those very current events sites, but I have never heard anyone say it is not a lot of work. Even if you outsource, it is still a considerable amount of work.

            But if you build a project in a market where there is going to be continuing interest you can spend your time promoting your site rather than rebuilding it on a consistent basis.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

          Try spending $20K on a pallet of overstock goods that don't sell well and instead of seeing a big profit on eBay you have to dump them at or below cost at a local flea market. .
          That sucks dude. I blew $15K on adwords back in 08 in 3 months. I understand completely

          It must've been quite annoying having to look at that stock everyday!
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    • Profile picture of the author ClaudeP
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Johnny, I don't personally, but you do have to spend money to make money. I don't know of anybody who earns $500+(regardless of what type of business they run) who doesn't invest their profits straight back into their business. You have to spend money and make money.
      Absolutlely correct. I do $500+ a day, but most of that is invested into growing my online business. $500 a day and $500 profit a day are two very different things.

      But I also think that once you have developed a system, one goal should be to spend less money maintaining that system every month. If I have to keep spending money to keep a system going, I'm not making any profit from it so I don't see a point in continuing that system. Even with my PPC campaigns, I'm always tweaking and testing so I can spend less and profit more.
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  • Profile picture of the author ClaudeP
    $500+ days consistently is absolutely possible, but honestly, the people that do it aren't going to come here and tell you how they are doing it.

    Anybody can post here saying they are doing $500+ a day, but without proof, can you honestly believe them? I'm doing $500+ daily, even my bad days are usually over $500. And I personally know people that are doing $1000+ a day. But am I going to tell you what I'm doing to make that much? No. Because I don't want more competition for myself. I will tell you that I'm doing a variety of things spread across a lot of niches.

    It is defnitely possible to do $500+ days consistently, but not without a lot of dedication. Building your business that big isn't going to happen overnight. You need to set goals and stay focused.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by ClaudeP View Post

      $500+ days consistently is absolutely possible, but honestly, the people that do it aren't going to come here and tell you how they are doing it.

      Anybody can post here saying they are doing $500+ a day, but without proof, can you honestly believe them? I'm doing $500+ daily, even my bad days are usually over $500. And I personally know people that are doing $1000+ a day. But am I going to tell you what I'm doing to make that much? No. Because I don't want more competition for myself. I will tell you that I'm doing a variety of things spread across a lot of niches.

      It is defnitely possible to do $500+ days consistently, but not without a lot of dedication. Building your business that big isn't going to happen overnight. You need to set goals and stay focused.
      Dedication is NOT the issue. Im putting in 15 hour days here - 7 days a week. And dont think Im sitting here dibble dabbling youtube and facebook all day.

      I have money, thats not an issue, I have plenty of time (I do this full time) I just want reassurance from SOMEONE that Im not wasting my time.

      Ive been at this for 2 years solid now, and while I appreciate everyones feedback - Im not asking for anyone to say "Hey, heres exactly what I do.." Im not asking that. Id just appreciate some proof of earnings, something...anything that shows me legitimately - $500+ days.

      Perhaps Im just dreaming? Who knows. Maybe I am, its late here and Im tired.
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post


        I have money, thats not an issue, I have plenty of time (I do this full time) I just want reassurance from SOMEONE that Im not wasting my time.
        Of course it's possible to make $500 a day, but that doesn't mean YOU aren't wasting YOUR time. No one here knows what you're doing with it. It doesn't matter how hard you work, or how much time you put in if you're doing the wrong things.

        Maybe tell us what it is you've been doing for 2 years, and we can make some recommendations.

        Why do you ask anyway? Aren't you already making $500 a day? From the site in your sig:

        "But what I do have is a successful freelance web design business, that has grown from building websites for my friends and family and just half a dozen clients to turning over $160,000 per year, every year since I started. And what's best of all is that I am my own boss!
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

          Why do you ask anyway? Aren't you already making $500 a day? From the site in your sig:

          "But what I do have is a successful freelance web design business, that has grown from building websites for my friends and family and just half a dozen clients to turning over $160,000 per year, every year since I started. And what's best of all is that I am my own boss!
          I was, but Im talking about PASSIVE income.

          I gave web design away because clients were driving me insane.
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        • Profile picture of the author celente
          Originally Posted by Terry Gorry View Post

          Anyone making $500 per day is not tooling around on an internet marketing forum..they are busy building their business.

          There are 3 people who I have very high regard for in internet business and I know they are making a serious amount of money online.

          Quite how much I don't know..why should I and why should they tell me?

          It is, literally and metaphorically, their business.

          But the most recent post by any of them on this forum was about 4 months ago.

          I have therefore drawn the conclusion some time ago that people making real money are, understandably, too busy making that money than to be messing around here with $7 ebooks in the WSO section...

          or trawling treads with "helpful" answers and big signature links to their latest get rich quick whiz.

          Terry
          I agree with this.

          I do very well online.

          I am not going to bore you with a long post, so here are my secrets

          im in 7 Niches and I have simple sales funnels set up.

          One of those niches does +500 a day. I am not going to reveal the niche, but i will say that my site is way up their in terms of branding and name of product most in here would recognize it. Of the seven niche it makes up to 60% of all my sales. So I have to say you gotta be in the right niche from Day 1. That is where most newbie screw it up. I know, because I screwed up majorly when I started at this game.

          Plus When someone joins my list, I learnt form my mentor to teach them how to join your affiliate army. Affilates make up about 70% of all my sales...but I do that hard yakka and teach them how to sell, and the who what where why and how.
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        • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
          Originally Posted by Terry Gorry View Post

          Anyone making $500 per day is not tooling around on an internet marketing forum..they are busy building their business.

          There are 3 people who I have very high regard for in internet business and I know they are making a serious amount of money online.

          Quite how much I don't know..why should I and why should they tell me?

          It is, literally and metaphorically, their business.

          But the most recent post by any of them on this forum was about 4 months ago.

          I have therefore drawn the conclusion some time ago that people making real money are, understandably, too busy making that money than to be messing around here with $7 ebooks in the WSO section...

          or trawling treads with "helpful" answers and big signature links to their latest get rich quick whiz.

          Terry
          Not always true. Forum posting can result in an enhanced revenue stream if done properly.
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

            Not always true. Forum posting can result in an enhanced revenue stream if done properly.
            This is true, if you're set up with proper monetization streams forum posting could be a viable source of income. In most cases, it shouldn't be your primary revenue stream, but I don't see anything wrong with spending 1-2 hours daily in the forums if it helps enhance your business and also builds your credibility.
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            • Profile picture of the author Lee Wilson
              Johnny, just took a look at your web design site and it's pretty impressive. Here's my humble opinion

              You say that site is a bulk of your income so it's obviously a seller. Without knowing anything about that market I would hazard a guess that it's pretty big. There are countless people that want to do web design as a business. If I was you I would be pushing that like crazy. You've already done the hard part, you've built the product and have a content packed website but left it half done in terms of conversion potential. Refinement is everything.

              I'm no copywriter but it's easy to see that your site is only converting a fraction of it's potential. I think you could turn this into a goldmine over the next year or two. Are you doing PPC? If not, you should. It's the ultimate testing ground. Combine it with your analytics accounts and there's no better way IMO to figure out what your customers are looking for and how to sell it to them. You might lose money at first but the insight you gain from studying the data is invaluable. Although, this alone is a bit of a learning curve.

              If you don't have it already, get Perry Marshall's book from Amazon. Get on his newsletter and download every audio you can find from him. PPC is only a fraction of what you can learn from him.

              Read Seth's blog everyday.

              Watch This video.
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              Get inspired!

              Devour these two sites and follow the product links to get more ideas about marketing from a website. I'm pretty sure these are high converting businesses. Get on their newsletters too, study them.

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              Gradually add more products and upsells or split the product into levels. Find out what other things these people want to know about and create more products around it. Keep your members up to date on latest trends and technologies around web design. The add-on products to this kind of business are endless. Shopping cart info, payment processors, CMS, forum building, wordpress, membership sites, dynamic data, graphics, general business advice, copywriting, advertising, marketing etc. All this and more are things your customers might need to know and they don't all need to be bundled in one product.

              Turn some of them into physical products. Advertise them in relevant magazines. Put them on Amazon.

              Run local ads and start a live training course, or run ads anywhere and do online training and advice. (Your PPC data will help you write ads that convert) Add a forum to your site and help others for free. Build your credibility and presence. Aim to dominate. Once you have enough dedicated followers they'll do the selling for you. Build a forum right and it becomes a giant testimonial. Eventually add a paid section maybe.

              The possibilities are endless but with some monitored testing, refinement, more promotion and a bit of time, that business could be doing very well indeed IMO, forget $500!
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        Dedication is NOT the issue. Im putting in 15 hour days here - 7 days a week. And dont think Im sitting here dibble dabbling youtube and facebook all day.

        I have money, thats not an issue, I have plenty of time (I do this full time) I just want reassurance from SOMEONE that Im not wasting my time.

        Ive been at this for 2 years solid now, and while I appreciate everyones feedback - Im not asking for anyone to say "Hey, heres exactly what I do.." Im not asking that. Id just appreciate some proof of earnings, something...anything that shows me legitimately - $500+ days.

        Perhaps Im just dreaming? Who knows. Maybe I am, its late here and Im tired.
        Are you near Las Vegas...........if so I am also...........lets get together and mastermind on some items.

        Respectfully,
        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          My best was 3 days consistently.

          I hoping to ramp up the recurring commission program promotions in 2011.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by TimG View Post

          Are you near Las Vegas...........if so I am also...........lets get together and mastermind on some items.

          Respectfully,
          Tim
          Sorry dude, Im in Brisbane Australia.

          Im always on MSN though
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe118
            Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

            Sorry dude, Im in Brisbane Australia.

            Im always on MSN though
            You're a lucky dude living in Brisbane

            That's my dream place for a scuba diving vacation of maybe a year or two
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          • Profile picture of the author TimG
            Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

            Sorry dude, Im in Brisbane Australia.

            Im always on MSN though

            Whoops, that's a bit far for me to commute and looks like Vegas is a bit far for you....lol

            Respectfully,
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            • Profile picture of the author dc_publius
              Read and reread Dave Rodman and Defunct's responses.

              If you continue trying to game the system with crap pages, crap backlinks, and crap content, you will make some money. If you are super lucky to hit on a ton of niches and create enough crap, you might make really good money.

              But ultimately, you are competing in an industry with very low barriers to entry and people will outsmart you and out-cannibalize you. Very few people find success and even fewer stay successful year over year.

              Always looking for new niches, new offers, new techniques, new programs, building pages, testing, retesting, outsourcing, etc, does that sound like "passive income to you"? Because it doesn't sound very passive to me.

              The easiest ways to make money "online" are mentioned by the two posters above. Ironically, neither method sounds very easy, or passive. But reality is that they are in fact a heck of a lot easier and more passive than what vast majority of IMers are doing.

              First is to create good sites. You create a good, useful site, and things can easily run themselves after the first year or two. If you have a good site, you start to appeal to real advertisers that will approach you directly and offer much better money than Adsense/CB/CJ/Etc.

              Second, it's a lot easier to compete against a few locals versus competing against the World. It's a lot easier to sell your services to local businesses than trying to compete with Indians/teenagers on the internet providing services for pennines of your livable wage. You can easily lock in a few organizations on monthly plans and see X,XXX-XX,XXX coming in every month and you don't even have to stress out about results as long as you are doing an OK job. Moreover,your clients will not only stick with you for years, but also drive you leads for more business and approach you for additional work/easy money.

              That is how I make $500+/day. My friend who does the same thing as I do but better with bigger clients pulls in a lot more than 500/day and I don't think he has ever been to any of these forums... he spends his time getting clients, looking for quality people to outsource stuff to, and thinking of personal projects he can do and potential projects he can sell to businesses. I primarily browse all these IM forums for ideas, opportunities, to stay on top of the news and other developments, and the biggest reason of all - for entertainment and wasting time.
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              • Profile picture of the author Defunct
                Originally Posted by dc_publius View Post

                Read and reread Dave Rodman and Defunct's responses.

                If you continue trying to game the system with crap pages, crap backlinks, and crap content, you will make some money. If you are super lucky to hit on a ton of niches and create enough crap, you might make really good money.

                But ultimately, you are competing in an industry with very low barriers to entry and people will outsmart you and out-cannibalize you. Very few people find success and even fewer stay successful year over year.

                Always looking for new niches, new offers, new techniques, new programs, building pages, testing, retesting, outsourcing, etc, does that sound like "passive income to you"? Because it doesn't sound very passive to me.

                The easiest ways to make money "online" are mentioned by the two posters above. Ironically, neither method sounds very easy, or passive. But reality is that they are in fact a heck of a lot easier and more passive than what vast majority of IMers are doing.

                First is to create good sites. You create a good, useful site, and things can easily run themselves after the first year or two. If you have a good site, you start to appeal to real advertisers that will approach you directly and offer much better money than Adsense/CB/CJ/Etc.

                Second, it's a lot easier to compete against a few locals versus competing against the World. It's a lot easier to sell your services to local businesses than trying to compete with Indians/teenagers on the internet providing services for pennines of your livable wage. You can easily lock in a few organizations on monthly plans and see X,XXX-XX,XXX coming in every month and you don't even have to stress out about results as long as you are doing an OK job. Moreover,your clients will not only stick with you for years, but also drive you leads for more business and approach you for additional work/easy money.

                That is how I make $500+/day. My friend who does the same thing as I do but better with bigger clients pulls in a lot more than 500/day and I don't think he has ever been to any of these forums... he spends his time getting clients, looking for quality people to outsource stuff to, and thinking of personal projects he can do and potential projects he can sell to businesses. I primarily browse all these IM forums for ideas, opportunities, to stay on top of the news and other developments, and the biggest reason of all - for entertainment and wasting time.
                Yeh and that is another thing, happy clients bring you new leads, I don't even currently advertise.

                I forgot to mention that I don't like repetitive work and I'm kind of lazy when it comes to day to day stuff, if I worked 6 hours a day, advertised and hired 1 or 2 more staff I could easily make $1000 a day, but I've chosen to develop tools for agencies now rather than actively building my client list.

                Either way it's a solid business and i've seen complete idiots make a tonne of money with these services, sure they usually lose the clients after 3 months but that is their own fault.

                It happens when you focus on marketing your own company instead of your clients first.
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      • Profile picture of the author matt5409
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        Dedication is NOT the issue. Im putting in 15 hour days here - 7 days a week. And dont think Im sitting here dibble dabbling youtube and facebook all day.

        I have money, thats not an issue, I have plenty of time (I do this full time) I just want reassurance from SOMEONE that Im not wasting my time.

        Ive been at this for 2 years solid now, and while I appreciate everyones feedback - Im not asking for anyone to say "Hey, heres exactly what I do.." Im not asking that. Id just appreciate some proof of earnings, something...anything that shows me legitimately - $500+ days.

        Perhaps Im just dreaming? Who knows. Maybe I am, its late here and Im tired.
        that seems an awfully large investment of time and money for what seems like little return. i see a lot of people here at least claiming to be making a significant income from affiliate marketing and adsense putting in less time than this. perhaps you are doing something wrong.

        however dont listen to me, i'm new to all this and currently make nothing. i'm being sold the stories too, in the hope that my efforts pay off.
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      • Profile picture of the author Defunct
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        Dedication is NOT the issue. Im putting in 15 hour days here - 7 days a week. And dont think Im sitting here dibble dabbling youtube and facebook all day.

        I have money, thats not an issue, I have plenty of time (I do this full time) I just want reassurance from SOMEONE that Im not wasting my time.

        Ive been at this for 2 years solid now, and while I appreciate everyones feedback - Im not asking for anyone to say "Hey, heres exactly what I do.." Im not asking that. Id just appreciate some proof of earnings, something...anything that shows me legitimately - $500+ days.

        Perhaps Im just dreaming? Who knows. Maybe I am, its late here and Im tired.
        I think it very much matters what type of business model you pick and also what type of niches you go after if it's online.

        Most of the work i've done is offline, I currently make around $350 a day servicing PPC/SEO clients in a developing country.

        You can't charge too much here for small and medium sized companies.

        I've started multiple offline businesses and usually sold my shares due to lack of interest, most of them are still running today and doing well.

        I've tried here and there to do pure online businesses but i always seem to get hooked into real world businesses.

        If you work that hard you could possibly consider doing offline work, you seem like the right type and I promise once you get client's as long as you get decent results they will pay month after month forever.

        Longest client i've had is 4 years now paying monthly fees and taking up new services.

        I started a lead gen company for investment property about 5 years ago, left after about a year for multiple reasons, my 2 ex partners were making around $20 000 dollars per month and they were getting paid per sale not paid per lead.

        Starting an online retail store selling in the digital camera niche which is still running now 7 years later.

        There are lots of examples, but as I said if you work that hard consider doing some offline work, after 2 years online, if you arn't getting the success you want, either you are picking the wrong niches or not getting enough traffic because I would definitely have switched tactics by now.

        Offline businesses can be just as automated as online if you do it right, it's not so easy to get someone to pay you $600 a month online, it is offline though and I'm in South Africa!
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by ClaudeP View Post

      $500+ days consistently is absolutely possible, but honestly, the people that do it aren't going to come here and tell you how they are doing it.

      Anybody can post here saying they are doing $500+ a day, but without proof, can you honestly believe them? I'm doing $500+ daily, even my bad days are usually over $500. And I personally know people that are doing $1000+ a day. But am I going to tell you what I'm doing to make that much? No. Because I don't want more competition for myself. I will tell you that I'm doing a variety of things spread across a lot of niches.
      .
      Well first, you say nobody is going to come here who actually does make over $500 a day consistently and tell you that...supposedly you did.

      Second...Why won't you tell us what you are doing to make that? How come? Just because you might have some competition shouldn't stop you. Not to mention, not everyone here in the WF is working the same niche market as you are.

      This forum is here to help each other, and why post what you did if you aren't willing to help? Nobody wants to see someone just "tooting their own horn" here like your post on this thread. Just some food for thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author JHC81
    I make 100 a day, also not constantly but I do have those good days, I guess this is how this business or any other work, which is why I am one of those people who has money saved up just for business for those rainy days because you never know...
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    • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
      Just one of my little Wordpress websites alone makes me $300/day (£200/day) on autopilot in a UK market.

      The product I created sells for $15, and an average of 20 people a day buy the "solution" I provide through Clickbank.

      The refund rate is 1.2%. I have zero affiliates, there is no backend whatsoever and it is a one time solution, to a one time problem.

      In the bigger scheme of things I'm a nobody, one of the advertisers on the CPA networks is making $77 million/month.

      Almost all profit, his costs are around $400,000 a month for customer support etc

      Which leaves him with $76,600,000/month which works out to over $2,500,000/day (5,000 times more than what you thought might not be possible)

      The problem is, too many people are looking for get rich quick schemes and want to make money starting tomorrow with a 15 minute set-up, it isn't reality most of the time.

      I've posted it many times before, but one of the biggest differences between success and failure is selling stuff people want to buy.

      A quick look at the websites in your signature links, and it is obvious to me why you are not seeing the returns you desire.

      Regarding the right products/services to sell ...

      The best advice I've ever seen on this is here ...

      GURU BluePrint Blog » Blog Archive » How To Identify And Target Highly Profitable Information Niches Online

      ... the video is free, and if you truly understand the concepts here, you'll have no problem creating or promoting stuff which sells easily and in decent numbers.

      Eben Pagan does $20 million/year from his dating advice business alone, and even though this video on his blog is free you won't find much out there which explains things better.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kory Pearman
        Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post

        Just one of my little Wordpress websites alone makes me $300/day (£200/day) on autopilot in a UK market.

        The product I created sells for $15, and an average of 20 people a day buy the "solution" I provide through Clickbank.

        The refund rate is 1.2%. I have zero affiliates, there is no backend whatsoever and it is a one time solution, to a one time problem.

        In the bigger scheme of things I'm a nobody, one of the advertisers on the CPA networks is making $77 million/month.

        Almost all profit, his costs are around $400,000 a month for customer support etc

        Which leaves him with $76,600,000/month which works out to over $2,500,000/day (5,000 times more than what you thought might not be possible)

        The problem is, too many people are looking for get rich quick schemes and want to make money starting tomorrow with a 15 minute set-up, it isn't reality most of the time.

        I've posted it many times before, but one of the biggest differences between success and failure is selling stuff people want to buy.

        A quick look at the websites in your signature links, and it is obvious to me why you are not seeing the returns you desire.

        Regarding the right products/services to sell ...

        The best advice I've ever seen on this is here ...

        GURU BluePrint Blog » Blog Archive » How To Identify And Target Highly Profitable Information Niches Online

        ... the video is free, and if you truly understand the concepts here, you'll have no problem creating or promoting stuff which sells easily and in decent numbers.

        Eben Pagan does $20 million/year from his dating advice business alone, and even though this video on his blog is free you won't find much out there which explains things better.
        Aww video not found? Or is that just me..
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        • Profile picture of the author sylviad
          Well, I cannot come near to claiming an income of $500 a day - ever. What I can tell you is that I started to close the gap when I became more consistent with a few methods. Being a writer, that meant writing articles and blogging. I'd been doing the article writing for a few years but not anywhere near the quantity that I should have been. Initially only submitting them to 5-8 directories.

          And then one day, I signed up with SubmitYourArticles.com and tried to be more diligent in submitting articles into it.

          They distributed my articles to 1000s of places, but it did take about 3-4 months before I started to see my sales creep up. And even at that, I only mustered around 10 articles a month. Dismal effort on my part because I spread myself too thin trying other things instead of focusing on the one that could work - which I didn't know would work so well at the time.

          But then, I spent money elsewhere and wasn't able to maintain my account but I'd sure like to do it again. Six months after opening the account (so, about 2-3 months after I closed it), I was really beginning to see the benefits of using the service.

          I've now lost all that progress, but after trying several other methods, including blogging, article marketing using this service proved to be the most profitable.

          So I guess the best advice I can give you is to find a method that works and really work it. And then allow a few months before you decide whether or not to continue. Of course, that depends on the marketing method you choose. With article marketing it does take time.

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        • Profile picture of the author sierraandmo
          Originally Posted by korypearman View Post

          Aww video not found? Or is that just me..
          I didn't find it either.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post

        The product I created sells for $15, and an average of 20 people a day buy the "solution" I provide through Clickbank.

        The refund rate is 1.2%. I have zero affiliates, there is no backend whatsoever and it is a one time solution, to a one time problem.
        Your statement above is a great eye-opener for me and validates something I have just started figuring out and that is every product placed on Clickbank doesn't have to be $37 or more in order to be successful.

        I know I personally got sucked into thinking that I had to price my products high in order to attract affiliates and generate sales. My only problem was even though I had a great product I felt I was overpricing it.

        That was a hard lesson to learn.

        I'm now in the process of adjusting the prices for those products because I know they will sell much better at a lower price point and my marketing methods don't require affiliates so even 10 copies a day sold would be refreshing.

        But I digress, $500 a day can be made consistently but I think you have to backwards plan just a bit in order to determine the income streams that will contribute to the overall objective.

        For example, will you sell 50 copies of a $10 product or 5 copies of a $100 product or some combination in between.

        Respectfully,
        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author Zentech
          Tim, that brings up an interesting question. Since you have experience here, I'd like to ask you - what do you think is the absolute lowest you can price a Clickbank product and still have affiliates bother to promote it? When answering, don't assume any JV's or anything, just average, ordinary, random affiliates.

          I'm thinking of doing a Clickbank thingie or two and I already know I'll want to go as low as I can, price-wise. I just don't know how low that is.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimG
            Originally Posted by Zentech View Post

            Tim, that brings up an interesting question. Since you have experience here, I'd like to ask you - what do you think is the absolute lowest you can price a Clickbank product and still have affiliates bother to promote it? When answering, don't assume any JV's or anything, just average, ordinary, random affiliates.

            I'm thinking of doing a Clickbank thingie or two and I already know I'll want to go as low as I can, price-wise. I just don't know how low that is.
            Unfortunately my experience with Clickbank is more along the lines of what I found out didn't work. I have 4 products on there with the following price points $67, $47, $37, $37 and non of the products have exploded as well as I hoped they would.

            Mind you, I've never had a massive promotion campaign setup like for instance Dan had for his Deadbeat Super Affiliate course. Of course, I didn't attempt to setup a campaign like that so I'm to blame.

            One other item I am horrible at is the upsell mentality. Personally, I despise them. Yes, I know they work and one upsell seems ok but some marketers have like 5 or 6 upsells and make it hard to leave their page. I'd rather not make sales using those methods but then again I don't make the income from Clickbank like those marketers so what do I know.

            Of course, if you use them you could probably price your product at $17 and if you have 3 upsells with higher price points you would probably be able to attract plenty of affiliates but the lower the price of your product the lower the commission for the affiliate and they need to justify the money they spend on PPC or other promotional efforts so the ROI for them has to be good.

            Truth be told, Dan is more qualified to answer this question based on the success of his recent launch.

            For me personally, I'm going to price my products at $9.95 and even though I probably won't attract any affiliates I still expect them to sell at a much higher rate then they are now. I'm talking about products in evergreen niches for example, yeast infection prevention, texas hold'em and get your ex back.

            Respectfully,
            Tim
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            • Profile picture of the author halmo
              Originally Posted by TimG View Post

              Your statement above is a great eye-opener for me and validates something I have just started figuring out and that is every product placed on Clickbank doesn't have to be $37 or more in order to be successful.

              I know I personally got sucked into thinking that I had to price my products high in order to attract affiliates and generate sales. My only problem was even though I had a great product I felt I was overpricing it.
              Originally Posted by TimG View Post


              Of course, if you use them you could probably price your product at $17 and if you have 3 upsells with higher price points you would probably be able to attract plenty of affiliates but the lower the price of your product the lower the commission for the affiliate and they need to justify the money they spend on PPC or other promotional efforts so the ROI for them has to be good.

              For me personally, I'm going to price my products at $9.95 and even though I probably won't attract any affiliates I still expect them to sell at a much higher rate then they are now. I'm talking about products in evergreen niches for example, yeast infection prevention, texas hold'em and get your ex back.
              This thread offers some good insights on what affiliates look for in terms of commission when they choose Clickbank products.
              Clickbank affiliates: What absolute lowest commission you'd take per initial sale?
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              • Profile picture of the author TimG
                Originally Posted by halmo View Post

                This thread offers some good insights on what affiliates look for in terms of commission when they choose Clickbank products.
                Clickbank affiliates: What absolute lowest commission you'd take per initial sale?

                Thanks for the link - Alexa's postings were particularly helpful.

                Respectfully,
                Tim
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                • Profile picture of the author Zentech
                  I think the sales letters are decent enough but I did just send you a PM.
                  I saw it and am about to send a response - but you're right. The letters are good enough and that isn't the problem, IMO.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Joe118
                    Oh I nearly forgot -- the thread in the link below also contains lots of useful info on how I do things:

                    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-possible.html
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                    • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
                      How to make $500 a day? Here is my suggestion . . .

                      I looked at your web design site in your sig and noticed a few things.

                      1. your headline on the page just doesn't build excitement, there is no benefit in it.
                      2. your price you are charging $97 is way to low for helping them start a new business giving someone a new life

                      My suggestion would be to change the entire model.

                      Instead of trying to sell them directly on the page I would just set up a squeeze page, capture their names and then sell them later.

                      --------- Squeeze page ----------

                      Discover the "Fast-Track Cash Secrets" of a Down and Out Australia Man that is BANKING over $160,000 per year In his Own Web Design Business!

                      * Benefit 1
                      * Benefit 2
                      * Benefit 3
                      * Benefit 4

                      Name:
                      Email:

                      Enter name and email above for you Fast Track Web Start-up Guide

                      --------------- End Squeeze Page -------------------
                      The above is just an example.

                      Now go and sign up to as many high price squeeze pages that you can find so that you can study their email series and model them to make your own.

                      Now here is the important part. Don't price your course a $97. This is life changing information and you should charge accordingly.

                      Make 2 offers to give them a choice. A SILVER and a GOLD package.

                      SILVER (basic package) = $497
                      GOLD (Give them everything with lots of bonuses) = $697

                      You can play with the pricing of the two packages usually the higher the better for you :-)

                      What you will find is most people will choose the higher cost package!

                      Just keep sending them email's until they buy or unsubscribe.

                      For those that buy you can offer a quarterly Start-Up seminar as an upsell for $997 or $1997.

                      Follow the above model and you will easily make your $500 a day.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
                        Originally Posted by celente View Post

                        Dude you rock! Cyber hugs to you. They is some Nice IM Porn reading right there.

                        Kudos to you.
                        Lol, IM Porn. That's exactly what it is, too.

                        Originally Posted by Terry Hatfield View Post

                        How to make $500 a day? Here is my suggestion . . .
                        You have the sauce, young Jedi. I'd copy and paste all that Terry said and frame it next to your desk. He said what I was going to say but in a much less sarcastic way.

                        I was going to say to create a $500 product and then spend all day each day trying to get just one person to buy via the internet. When you find a method that works, outsource someone to do it over and over and pay them out of the profit.

                        Premium pricing is about perception, and the trick is knowing that YOU are the one that creates that perception in your prospect. It's not about convincing the average joe to cough up $500 for your stuff. It's about letting the people who ALREADY WANT to spend $500 on SOMEONE'S stuff know that you even exist.

                        It really is that easy.
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        • Profile picture of the author KenJ
          Originally Posted by TimG View Post


          I'm now in the process of adjusting the prices for those products because I know they will sell much better at a lower price point and my marketing methods don't require affiliates so even 10 copies a day sold would be refreshing.



          Respectfully,
          Tim
          Hi Tim

          I for one think that your marketing methods are very interesting. I know you are an article marketing wizard. What else do you do?

          Kenj
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          • Profile picture of the author TimG
            Originally Posted by kenj View Post

            Hi Tim

            I for one think that your marketing methods are very interesting. I know you are an article marketing wizard. What else do you do?

            Kenj
            Ken,
            That's pretty much it. I don't do any form of PPC and nearly every bit of traffic I generate is from organic search engine rankings for my websites and submitted articles.

            For example, I have a home based business website that is killing the organic search engine results. Nearly every page I am making is ranking on the first page.

            Granted the keyword phrases are not receiving huge searches but this particular site will have about 600 pages once completed and I expect to generate about 3000 visitors a day once completed. This ranking has been achieved based on the keyword terms and the internal link structure that I am utlilzing. I just started my article marketing campaign for it and expect to see some heavy traffic within the next 2-3 weeks.

            My internal linking has me build a page and then when I build my next page it links back to the previous built page. Next, I employ an article marketing plan that uses a combination of article marketing, video marketing and I just started using the WF blog.

            I have another strategy where I use cluster sites which link back tmy main site. For example if main site is on pest control then I have smaller mini-sites for each individual pest.........hopefully that made sense.

            Oh, before I forget, I'm also working facebook and hubpages into the mix. Hubpages has now become a focal point for me again because I am seeing them ranking extremely well for various niches.

            Respectfully,
            Tim
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            • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
              In regards to the question about the lowest you should price your product, it really depends on a lot of factors and a lot to do with your niche.

              In the IM niche, some affiliates wont promote your product if the price is below $37 unless it has some insane sales funnel to back it up.

              It also depends on what people owe you.

              For example, one of my JV partners Shawn Casey launched a product earlier last month at a $1.00 entry trial. Normally I wouldn't promote a product like that, however Shawn did really well for me on my launch so I promoted for him regardless of what the price point is.
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              • Profile picture of the author TimG
                Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

                In regards to the question about the lowest you should price your product, it really depends on a lot of factors and a lot to do with your niche.

                In the IM niche, some affiliates wont promote your product if the price is below $37 unless it has some insane sales funnel to back it up.

                It also depends on what people owe you.

                For example, one of my JV partners Shawn Casey launched a product earlier last month at a $1.00 entry trial. Normally I wouldn't promote a product like that, however Shawn did really well for me on my launch so I promoted for him regardless of what the price point is.
                Dan,
                Any chance you will be putting out info on your blog on how you went about with the JV process for your recent launch. I'd be interested in seeing/hearing about the steps you took or such a successful product launch.

                Respectfully,
                Tim
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                • Profile picture of the author Zentech
                  Tim,

                  Unfortunately my experience with Clickbank is more along the lines of what I found out didn't work. I have 4 products on there with the following price points $67, $47, $37, $37 and non of the products have exploded as well as I hoped they would.
                  Do you have good copy on them? If so, ignore this. If not, I'd be happy to take a look at what you have and critique. This would be free - I'm not trying to sell you anything. No upsell attempts later either.

                  Thanks for your answer, and while I didn't find out exactly what I wanted to know, you took the time to answer in some detail and that means a lot.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TimG
                    Originally Posted by Zentech View Post

                    Tim,

                    Do you have good copy on them? If so, ignore this. If not, I'd be happy to take a look at what you have and critique. This would be free - I'm not trying to sell you anything. No upsell attempts later either.

                    Thanks for your answer, and while I didn't find out exactly what I wanted to know, you took the time to answer in some detail and that means a lot.
                    I think the sales letters are decent enough but I did just send you a PM.

                    Respectfully,
                    Tim
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                • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
                  Originally Posted by TimG View Post

                  Dan,
                  Any chance you will be putting out info on your blog on how you went about with the JV process for your recent launch. I'd be interested in seeing/hearing about the steps you took or such a successful product launch.

                  Respectfully,
                  Tim
                  Probably not because there is no 'do this, then do this, then do this' way to teach it. There are a lot of variables, and no one way to approach it.

                  Best I can say is make contacts, go to events after you know a few peeps, and do a lot of promotions for your potential JV partners. Make sure they are aware that you are promoting before you hit it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                    Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

                    Probably not because there is no 'do this, then do this, then do this' way to teach it. There are a lot of variables, and no one way to approach it.

                    Best I can say is make contacts, go to events after you know a few peeps, and do a lot of promotions for your potential JV partners. Make sure they are aware that you are promoting before you hit it.
                    Dan had to sell his soul. This was a one time deal.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TimG
                    Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

                    Probably not because there is no 'do this, then do this, then do this' way to teach it. There are a lot of variables, and no one way to approach it.

                    Best I can say is make contacts, go to events after you know a few peeps, and do a lot of promotions for your potential JV partners. Make sure they are aware that you are promoting before you hit it.
                    Ok - I go to the events and know a few folks but promoting products becomes an issue because unless the product is quality I personally won't promote it and lately I've seen very few quality products.

                    Right now the best products I have seen are coming out of the WSO section of the forum.

                    Respectfully,
                    Tim
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                  Johnny, are you getting constant daily traffic?

                  It is hard to help since you really don't tell us much about your setup.

                  If you are getting some good traffic and conversions, then you should be expanding your product line and introduce some higher priced items.

                  I knew this stuff myself but didn't implement them like I should have. Now that I have, the income just keeps rising.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post

        Just one of my little Wordpress websites alone makes me $300/day (£200/day) on autopilot in a UK market.

        The product I created sells for $15, and an average of 20 people a day buy the "solution" I provide through Clickbank.

        The refund rate is 1.2%. I have zero affiliates, there is no backend whatsoever and it is a one time solution, to a one time problem.

        In the bigger scheme of things I'm a nobody, one of the advertisers on the CPA networks is making $77 million/month.

        Almost all profit, his costs are around $400,000 a month for customer support etc

        Which leaves him with $76,600,000/month which works out to over $2,500,000/day (5,000 times more than what you thought might not be possible)

        The problem is, too many people are looking for get rich quick schemes and want to make money starting tomorrow with a 15 minute set-up, it isn't reality most of the time.

        I've posted it many times before, but one of the biggest differences between success and failure is selling stuff people want to buy.

        A quick look at the websites in your signature links, and it is obvious to me why you are not seeing the returns you desire.

        Regarding the right products/services to sell ...

        The best advice I've ever seen on this is here ...

        GURU BluePrint Blog » Blog Archive » How To Identify And Target Highly Profitable Information Niches Online

        ... the video is free, and if you truly understand the concepts here, you'll have no problem creating or promoting stuff which sells easily and in decent numbers.

        Eben Pagan does $20 million/year from his dating advice business alone, and even though this video on his blog is free you won't find much out there which explains things better.
        Thanks for sharing....

        I watched the video from start to end - then went back over my sites, and realised that ....

        1. Theyre all "niceities" - potential buyers are more than likely just browsing, not necessarily desperately seeking a solution. I guess you could say they are "suggestions".

        2. NONE of my sites are in the following 3 markets - Money, Relationships, and Health. Strangely enough, I have a fair bit of knowledge about the health industry, because Ive been involved in weights and gym for almost 15 years.

        3. Out of the 10 sites I currently have, 3 produce consistent income, and THOSE would be the closest out of the lot in terms of a "priceless solution" ....interesting.

        The phsycology behind this is mind boggling. 2 years ago, I thought "I can build websites easy". I gave no consideration to sales, marketing, or buying physcology - and THAT are some key areas I need to improve upon.

        Of course, Id love to learn more from you, and would be grateful for anything further that you care to share, either here or PM.

        Thanks again.

        John
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        • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
          Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

          Thanks for sharing....

          I watched the video from start to end - then went back over my sites, and realised that ....

          1. Theyre all "niceities" - potential buyers are more than likely just browsing, not necessarily desperately seeking a solution. I guess you could say they are "suggestions".

          2. NONE of my sites are in the following 3 markets - Money, Relationships, and Health. Strangely enough, I have a fair bit of knowledge about the health industry, because Ive been involved in weights and gym for almost 15 years.

          3. Out of the 10 sites I currently have, 3 produce consistent income, and THOSE would be the closest out of the lot in terms of a "priceless solution" ....interesting.

          The phsycology behind this is mind boggling. 2 years ago, I thought "I can build websites easy". I gave no consideration to sales, marketing, or buying physcology - and THAT are some key areas I need to improve upon.

          Of course, Id love to learn more from you, and would be grateful for anything further that you care to share, either here or PM.

          Thanks again.

          John
          To be honest I do deviate from the big 3 occasionally, the Wordpress site I mentioned which does $300/day involves an exam many people take here in the UK, but struggle with.

          I happen to know how to pass the exam easily, so I wrote a short PDF report and it sells for just under £10 (around $15).

          People search for the name of the exam every day, and my Wordpress site is sitting there on the top spot with a solution waiting for them.

          In terms of everything he talked about in the video, it certainly ticks all the boxes (a solution not a suggestion, urgency, a priceless answer etc)

          Once you've found the right niches, and products/services to sell I'm sure you won't have any problem making plenty of money.

          Especially working 15 hours a day
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          • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
            Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post

            To be honest I do deviate from the big 3 occasionally, the Wordpress site I mentioned which does $300/day involves an exam many people take here in the UK, but struggle with.

            I happen to know how to pass the exam easily, so I wrote a short PDF report and it sells for just under £10 (around $15).

            People search for the name of the exam every day, and my Wordpress site is sitting there on the top spot with a solution waiting for them.

            In terms of everything he talked about in the video, it certainly ticks all the boxes (a solution not a suggestion, urgency, a priceless answer etc)

            Once you've found the right niches, and products/services to sell I'm sure you won't have any problem making plenty of money.

            Especially working 15 hours a day
            Thanks again, I really value and appreciate your input.

            I woke today with that quote in my head "A Priceless Solution"

            One of my best performing sites is my "start a web design business" -- and I can only attribute that as being ..."a priceless solution" which, I believe it is.

            In it I share all my knowledge, experience and more. I could only imagine how daunting it would be (as it was for me when I first started) to start a web design business. My business kit provides that solution they are seeking and lessens any fears or frustrations they may have.

            Its funny, none of this is new to me. I guess its just easy to "forget" and "wander off the path" at times.

            Id certainly be interested in promoting your product as an affiliate if youre interested. Ive become a bit of a master at keyword research just lately

            Thanks again dude. Have a good one.
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      • Profile picture of the author HollyStar
        Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post


        The best advice I've ever seen on this is here ...

        GURU BluePrint Blog » Blog Archive » How To Identify And Target Highly Profitable Information Niches Online

        ... the video is free, and if you truly understand the concepts here, you'll have no problem creating or promoting stuff which sells easily and in decent numbers.

        Eben Pagan does $20 million/year from his dating advice business alone, and even though this video on his blog is free you won't find much out there which explains things better.

        Thank you oneplusone for this - for what ever reason this made all the sense in the world to me. I'm so thankful you sent it to me, it really changed everything, and put all the pieces together. I was getting overloaded with acronyms and crazy terminology that I couldn't comprehend, but this seemed so simple! You just saved me a tone of time, as now I'm pretty much ready to take all the info I've absorbed and start applying it profitably! SO to show my gratitude, when ever you're in need of that VO, first one's on me...within reason of course! lol

        Maybe in a few weeks, I'll be able to PM - 50 posts to PM, how is anybody supposed to have time to make money!
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      • Profile picture of the author lynneklos
        Thanks, OnePlusOne, for posting Eben's video. We've all heard these things one way or another, but he puts it together succinctly and makes you test your niche before you start throwing time and money at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author pacesetter007
    $500per day=$15,000per month=$183,000per year!
    It's achievable, I don't make that amount yet but with a basic plan and a get-it-done mentality, you can certainly attain it. If you have 250 niche blogs making $2 per day through adsense, or cpa offers, amazon products or any of the methods out there, then making that much is attainable and the sky is truely the limit!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Am I making a consistent $500 a day? No sir...

    I did however made a consistent $340 a day all last month
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  • Profile picture of the author 100Bandz
    I don't and I don't know anyone who does, but I know for sure it's possible - Especially if you rank for a competitive keyword. It's a simple math game, no?

    Traffic x Conversion % = X amount of sales x payout per sale = ____/day

    $500/day is 16 sales/day at $30 per sale.
    With 1% conversion that's 1,600 unique visitors per day.
    Not impossible, but very far away from easy...

    It's obviously hard to do, and a lot of people are exaggerating the simplicity of it....
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

      OP,

      It's possible, more than. Here's a bit from me in another thread re numbers and the how/who/where/why..
      Great post, I agree with basically everything you've said there.

      Everyone read his post multiple times.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
      incredible info mister media

      thanks very much for taking the time to detail
      your thoughts


      dano~

      Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

      OP,

      Points:

      * Browse forums and online less, test/do defeat & success analysis more.

      * Be risky with your campaigns, your products and your approaches in the market.

      * Be prepared to fail. No - EXPECT to fail 8 out of 10 times, but those 2 winners = treat them like million dollar ideas, they just might become that and more.

      * Can't stress enough to simply DO DO DO, FAIL FAIL FAIL, and learn from your own mistakes instead of preparing for 2 years and absorbing every guru lick you come across.

      * Don't be afraid of competition, expect it, anticipate it, prepare for it, welcome it (and vice versa).

      * Know your limits, don't spam all day for 30 days on ezine/youtube/2.0/etc with no results only to come ask for a trick and try for another 30, doing the same thing but now with pinging.. . .. .. Outsource what you're not good at, MOTOR on what you ARE good at. < Realize that this biz is NOT for everyone, and realizing you're NOT cut out for this is also an accomplishment/move forward. However there are so many angles/corners to approach it would be hard to find someone that can't monetize in one way or another be it servicing or product/marketing oriented.

      * HYBRID your success. You won't make millions writing articles alone, or doing videos alone, or bum marketing all year. You CAN make millions if you launch products, build lists, promote for others, build resids, and fine tune all of the above simultaneously, attacking from all angles with nothing but QUALITY.

      * Offline - Don't be shy to jump on a phone, call some associates, see if there is a fit for a 50/50 or for simple brainstorming. Networking offline/in person/phone/etc. is important to me. I need people, from affiliates to customers to partners, and you can't automate 100% of that especially the top level, jv's, partners etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author kaybanks
      Wow, this is one of the best replies I've seen in a while. Thanks for the motivation It helps that you actually showed a screenshot of your earnings, because they show zeroes in there as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    I'm sure it's very possible.

    Realistically achievable for your average person? That's a bit more doubtful.

    I guess what you have to decide is, are you "your average person?"

    And only YOU get to decide that. Nobody else.

    Also, do you need $500 a day? On what basis have you set this figure, and why is it important to you? It's a serious question. Couldn't hurt to think about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author 993rs
    Ramone_Johnny, you obviously know how to earn money online and large amounts in one day so you problem isn't earning the money. You say you've been doing this 2 years solid 7 days a week putting serious hours. why not take a break and clear your head. Something may be staring at you right in the face already but becasue your doing crazy hours you just haven't seen it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    I haven't yet...in fact I haven't made it to $1 a day consistently yet lol
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I just wanted to thank everyone who has contributed towards this thread, especially those sharing their earnings. I really appreciate it, as Im sure many others do.

    Theres so much to go over here, Ill be disgesting over the next hour or so.

    Thanks again.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Hi Ramone, sorry I'm late to the party.

      THE most important thing is what someone else said above -- you need to build a business based on a sustainable model.

      You should look into continuity business models -- they pay you multiple times for work you do once, and keep paying you month after month, so you don't have to spend (as much of) your time chasing up new customers. Just keep your existing customers happy and well fed with valuable content and they'll keep paying. Additionally, as they say, its much easier to sell to people that already bought from you than to new customers.

      All in all a list of clients paying recurring fees is the way to go. I'm making the bulk of my IM income that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
    I can say that my SEO and marketing efforts have averaged $2k+/day in sales for the last 90 days straight. I will not lie and say that that was all profit or even close to all profit though, and I will say that it was split between myself and several other people. As is true with most companies that make larger amounts of money, there are also smaller profit margins! But hopefully this shows that there are sites making good money day after day. The key is dominating that perfect niche
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    • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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      Just a few comments on this topic.....

      1) I make, on average, over $500 day with my sites. The niches are all complete, 100%, unrelated to IM....they aren't even CPA-heavy. I take a different approach from a lot of the advice here. I try and build useful sites around profitable niches. Useful sites means higher conversions, direct ads (highly underrated), and more stick-i-ness.

      2) This is my experience and based on what I've seen. I am involved in forums related to other niches I'm in. And it's interesting cause the big hitters are always involved, but on an extremely small scale. Same goes for here to some extent. I know some INSANELY skilled marketers that are making $1K per day. They post here on the WF on occasion. But what's funny is that their advice is pretty much ignored because of their post count (and lack of sig file). Lots of good advice goes totally unnoticed here.

      3) The biggest mistake I see is people that TOTALLY miss the boat on picking niches. I get the allure of going after the dating, mobile phone, credit card offers. But seriously....SERIOUSLY...you're not looking at it from an ROI perspective. There is more money in those niches, but you need to find the sweet spot. Not too small, not too big, not TOO profitable.

      4) My personal experience. I like to sell physical products. And the best formula, for me, is the following. I like niches that are pretty narrow...so you're dealign with smaller sets of keywords and limited products..preferably ones without a name-brand. Those niches end up converting WAY higher cause people are searching with a purpose.
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      • Profile picture of the author imon32red
        I focus on things that could provide me with passive income. I have my ebooks for sale on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. I also have a couple of sites that promote Clickbank products. I am currently working on a couple of Adsense sites. I know some people do not consider these things passive income, but I do because I create them and forget about them.

        The point that I am trying to make is that I spend my time with things that produce month in, and month out. I do make good money on some seasonal products, but usually that is not my focus.

        The other thing that I would like to mention is outsourcing. I have been blown away by some of the articles that I have had written for me. They are way better than anything that I could write. I outsource everything that I can. When I am outsourcing though I always split the work up. It is then less likely that the person you outsource to will just start copying your methods. You also end up working with experts for each aspect of the creation process. I feel that it is a little more work for you, but in the long run you end up with a better end result. I try to outsource everything that I can.

        I would also recommend taking a break every so often. I have my best ideas when I am not working, and usually when I am not in the office. I worked the 15 hour days once upon a time. However, I notice that if I spend a lot of time doing other things, when I do work on my IM business I work a lot harder and am much more effective. If I force myself to work long hours the result is mediocrity. If I only work a few hours I really enjoy working on things and it shows.

        The last thing that I would mention is focus on things that payout, even if it is only a little. Until you have consistent passive income you are better off spending money on things that pay, than things that have potential to pay. After you have your passive income then you can spend time on the bigger ticket commissions.

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      • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
        Originally Posted by Dave Rodman View Post

        Lots of good advice goes totally unnoticed here.
        there are some who quietly see the wood from the trees - - what is the old saying, "it is the quiet ones you need to watch" , also plenty of good regulars to watch, a good mix really.

        good replies by all - as an exercise here are the top 10 pages in the WSO section - there should be many more people posting here it seems ? - these all meet the op's requirements.

        How I Make Over $16,479.20 Every Single Month
        465 Dollars In 4 Hours? No Way
        Make $500 Per Day With Offline Consulting
        WOW! $1,462 Per Day With This Breakthrough Push-Button Software
        How I Went From ZERO To Over $500/Day In Just 2 Months
        This Simple System Generated A Whopping $5,832.00 In 48 Hours
        EARN AN EXTRA $700/day for 20 minutes of work
        $33,300 In Offline Contracts In 1 Month
        FBCASH - How You Can Make $588 Per Day Over Facebook
        "INSTANTLY COPY THIS $500+/DAY
        How I Made Over $10,000 In Just 3 Days
        $20,000 in sales in 13 days
        ZERO To $700/Day In Just 8 Week
        I Made $8,406.30 In 3 Days
        as much as $15,000 a week
        Make 10K or more in a weekend!
        ** $700+/Day Easily
        [NEW] Earn $13,610 in 8 hours!
        Offline Cash Cow - Pulled $16,302 In A Single Month
        [GUARANTEED RESULTS!] MAKE $1000 P/DAY
        Full-Time Income With WSO's? ($5917 in 7 days)
        Discover The Powerful $5,000 A Day Secret
        $500/DAY:
        $2,000 In 30 Minutes?
        I Made $555 My First Day & YOU Can Too
        How I Make $500+ Per Day On Autopilot
        Make $1,000+ Daily
        How I made from $200 to up $2,000 per day
        $1,000+ DAYS
        $7,567.22 In 15 Days!
        Secrets Of Making $1,000+/ Day
        ZERO to $39,400 IN 41 DAYS
        $15,000/Month Autopilot
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        • Profile picture of the author celente
          Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

          there are some who quietly see the wood from the trees - - what is the old saying, "it is the quiet ones you need to watch" , also plenty of good regulars to watch, a good mix really.

          good replies by all - as an exercise here are the top 10 pages in the WSO section - there should be many more people posting here it seems ? - these all meet the op's requirements.

          How I Make Over $16,479.20 Every Single Month
          465 Dollars In 4 Hours? No Way
          Make $500 Per Day With Offline Consulting
          WOW! $1,462 Per Day With This Breakthrough Push-Button Software
          How I Went From ZERO To Over $500/Day In Just 2 Months
          This Simple System Generated A Whopping $5,832.00 In 48 Hours
          EARN AN EXTRA $700/day for 20 minutes of work
          $33,300 In Offline Contracts In 1 Month
          FBCASH - How You Can Make $588 Per Day Over Facebook
          "INSTANTLY COPY THIS $500+/DAY
          How I Made Over $10,000 In Just 3 Days
          $20,000 in sales in 13 days
          ZERO To $700/Day In Just 8 Week
          I Made $8,406.30 In 3 Days
          as much as $15,000 a week
          Make 10K or more in a weekend!
          ** $700+/Day Easily
          [NEW] Earn $13,610 in 8 hours!
          Offline Cash Cow - Pulled $16,302 In A Single Month
          [GUARANTEED RESULTS!] MAKE $1000 P/DAY
          Full-Time Income With WSO's? ($5917 in 7 days)
          Discover The Powerful $5,000 A Day Secret
          $500/DAY:
          $2,000 In 30 Minutes?
          I Made $555 My First Day & YOU Can Too
          How I Make $500+ Per Day On Autopilot
          Make $1,000+ Daily
          How I made from $200 to up $2,000 per day
          $1,000+ DAYS
          $7,567.22 In 15 Days!
          Secrets Of Making $1,000+/ Day
          ZERO to $39,400 IN 41 DAYS
          $15,000/Month Autopilot
          Dude you rock! Cyber hugs to you. They is some Nice IM Porn reading right there.

          Kudos to you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
        Originally Posted by Dave Rodman View Post

        Just a few comments on this topic.....

        1) I make, on average, over $500 day with my sites. The niches are all complete, 100%, unrelated to IM....they aren't even CPA-heavy. I take a different approach from a lot of the advice here. I try and build useful sites around profitable niches. Useful sites means higher conversions, direct ads (highly underrated), and more stick-i-ness.

        2) This is my experience and based on what I've seen. I am involved in forums related to other niches I'm in. And it's interesting cause the big hitters are always involved, but on an extremely small scale. Same goes for here to some extent. I know some INSANELY skilled marketers that are making $1K per day. They post here on the WF on occasion. But what's funny is that their advice is pretty much ignored because of their post count (and lack of sig file). Lots of good advice goes totally unnoticed here.

        3) The biggest mistake I see is people that TOTALLY miss the boat on picking niches. I get the allure of going after the dating, mobile phone, credit card offers. But seriously....SERIOUSLY...you're not looking at it from an ROI perspective. There is more money in those niches, but you need to find the sweet spot. Not too small, not too big, not TOO profitable.

        4) My personal experience. I like to sell physical products. And the best formula, for me, is the following. I like niches that are pretty narrow...so you're dealign with smaller sets of keywords and limited products..preferably ones without a name-brand. Those niches end up converting WAY higher cause people are searching with a purpose.
        More good tips in this post than most WSOs! Some of the things you wrote here are crucial.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Which leaves him with $76,600,000/month which works out to over $2,500,000/day (5,000 times more than what you thought might not be possible)
    How do you know he makes so much? What is his name? With such income he would probably be on Forbes or something.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneyhunter
    I'd say I'm way behind that figure right now but have a consistent 80USD/day. But I do have a plan and working on it and believe that figure is achievable in my scheme of things. I provide educational service so its a different ball game but rules are still the same...
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  • Profile picture of the author simonsays
    At my peak I did over $1000 average a day consistently selling physical products. Annual income for that year was $500k and much of it was reinvested. I was only working part time to do it.

    I made some mistakes in outsourcing certain tasks (advertising) and I sort of rested on my laurels, so business fell off.

    I still average over $500 a day and know what I did wrong so I'm confident that I'll get back to where I was and better.

    Don't be afraid to think outside the box. If something isn't working then try something else. Get good solid advice from people who know what they're talking about.

    People who know what they're talking about usually aren't afraid to give some great free advice. they don't give away everything for free but they'll give you a little good solid advice that works. They do this because they know the value in gaining trust and then will sell you their product once they have your trust.

    Don't be afraid to pay someone for a product once you trust them because the paid products from someone that has gained your trust are usually worth the cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    I don't have any consistent days and have never had in my 8 plus years
    of doing this.

    I had zero dollar days and I have $3,000 days.

    When I figure out the secret to consistently earn the same amount every
    single day, I'll write a book on how I do it.

    But don't hold your breath.
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  • Profile picture of the author shortrep
    That can be a little bit difficult, but sincerely if there is a system like that, I will not mind to buy it at any rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Money
      I average quite a bit more than $500 a day. I'm surprised at some of the people that said they are not making that much that I really thought were easily making that much. I am aiming for more like $5000 a day short term and I don't feel like that is out of the question at all.

      I have several Clickbank products. All evergreen niches.

      I search CB Engine for niches.
      Look for niches that have several products with decent gravity.
      Check Google keyword tool to see what kind of search volume the keywords in the niche are doing.
      Check Google to see what the competition is like on the first page for the keywords I have chosen.

      If I feel like I can compete with the other sites for ranking and feel like I can compete with the quality of the sites and products on Clickbank I:


      1. Buy a domain with the number one Keyword I will be competing for in it then I add on a word because the keyword I go for is usually the highest search volume "BUYING" keyword in the niche so it will definitely not be available as a domain.

      2. Have the graphics made header, footer, strip, ebook, banners THAT's IT. Any other graphics like Add to Cart buttons, Checks, etc. I have a file I use. Warrior Forum

      3. Have the product made, I usually aim for around a 30-50 page ebook. It really depends on what the competition's product is like. Warrior Forum

      4. Have the sales letter written. I aim for around 2000 words. I use inexpensive copywriters to get the ball rolling and edit the work myself. As long as I get at least 2% conversions I am very happy. Warrior Forum

      5. Have the affiliate tools made. Banners, Reviews, Etc. Warrior Forum

      6. Format the sales letter, add the extra touches, and do on page SEO.

      7. Open a BRAND NEW Clickbank account for each product.

      8. Submit the product for approval.

      9. Have a press release written and submitted to several sources.

      10. Start building a TON of backlinks

      Then I repeat for a new niche. The only thing I do for the old sites is continue to build backlinks to keep the ranks up.

      I have one system.

      Find a Niche
      Outsource all creation of product and website
      Promote
      Find a new Niche and repeat

      All sales come from search engines and affiliates.

      EVERYTHING is outsourced to Warrior Forum members. I have used Elance and similar places and I highly prefer and recommend using Warrior Forum members because of both price and quality.

      I have never and do not currently:

      Do affiliate marketing
      Do PPC or any paid advertising
      Write or outsource articles
      Build list
      DO any upsells or downsells
      Do CPA
      Do offline marketing
      Do Adsense
      or anything else

      Even though I outsource a lot of stuff I still work on this 12-16 hours a day. Anyway that's what I do.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Big Money View Post

        I average quite a bit more than $500 a day. I'm surprised at some of the people that said they are not making that much that I really thought were easily making that much. I am aiming for more like $5000 a day short term and I don't feel like that is out of the question at all.

        I have several Clickbank products. All evergreen niches.

        I search CB Engine for niches.
        Look for niches that have several products with decent gravity.
        Check Google keyword tool to see what kind of search volume the keywords in the niche are doing.
        Check Google to see what the competition is like on the first page for the keywords I have chosen.

        If I feel like I can compete with the other sites for ranking and feel like I can compete with the quality of the sites and products on Clickbank I:


        1. Buy a domain with the number one Keyword I will be competing for in it then I add on a word because the keyword I go for is usually the highest search volume "BUYING" keyword in the niche so it will definitely not be available as a domain.

        2. Have the graphics made header, footer, strip, ebook, banners THAT's IT. Any other graphics like Add to Cart buttons, Checks, etc. I have a file I use. Warrior Forum

        3. Have the product made, I usually aim for around a 30-50 page ebook. It really depends on what the competition's product is like. Warrior Forum

        4. Have the sales letter written. I aim for around 2000 words. I use inexpensive copywriters to get the ball rolling and edit the work myself. As long as I get at least 2% conversions I am very happy. Warrior Forum

        5. Have the affiliate tools made. Banners, Reviews, Etc. Warrior Forum

        6. Format the sales letter, add the extra touches, and do on page SEO.

        7. Open a BRAND NEW Clickbank account for each product.

        8. Submit the product for approval.

        9. Have a press release written and submitted to several sources.

        10. Start building a TON of backlinks

        Then I repeat for a new niche. The only thing I do for the old sites is continue to build backlinks to keep the ranks up.

        I have one system.

        Find a Niche
        Outsource all creation of product and website
        Promote
        Find a new Niche and repeat

        All sales come from search engines and affiliates.

        EVERYTHING is outsourced to Warrior Forum members. I have used Elance and similar places and I highly prefer and recommend using Warrior Forum members because of both price and quality.

        I have never and do not currently:

        Do affiliate marketing
        Do PPC or any paid advertising
        Write or outsource articles
        Build list
        DO any upsells or downsells
        Do CPA
        Do offline marketing
        Do Adsense
        or anything else

        Even though I outsource a lot of stuff I still work on this 12-16 hours a day. Anyway that's what I do.

        Thanks so much for sharing! Surprisingly this is pretty much the same model as what Im doing, almost to a tee. I think my issue has been niche/market selection. Im confident that I can improve on this.

        Coincidentally, 3 of my new products have begun making sales, so I guess I was "sooking" a little too early in this thread
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Big Money View Post

        2. Have the graphics made header, footer, strip, ebook, banners THAT's IT. Any other graphics like Add to Cart buttons, Checks, etc. I have a file I use. Warrior Forum.
        Dude, out of interest, who do you use for this? Ive been trying to find someone decent for a week now without any luck
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      • Profile picture of the author NateRivers
        Originally Posted by Big Money View Post

        I average quite a bit more than $500 a day. I'm surprised at some of the people that said they are not making that much that I really thought were easily making that much. I am aiming for more like $5000 a day short term and I don't feel like that is out of the question at all.

        I have several Clickbank products. All evergreen niches.

        I search CB Engine for niches.
        Look for niches that have several products with decent gravity.
        Check Google keyword tool to see what kind of search volume the keywords in the niche are doing.
        Check Google to see what the competition is like on the first page for the keywords I have chosen.

        If I feel like I can compete with the other sites for ranking and feel like I can compete with the quality of the sites and products on Clickbank I:


        1. Buy a domain with the number one Keyword I will be competing for in it then I add on a word because the keyword I go for is usually the highest search volume "BUYING" keyword in the niche so it will definitely not be available as a domain.

        2. Have the graphics made header, footer, strip, ebook, banners THAT's IT. Any other graphics like Add to Cart buttons, Checks, etc. I have a file I use. Warrior Forum

        3. Have the product made, I usually aim for around a 30-50 page ebook. It really depends on what the competition's product is like. Warrior Forum

        4. Have the sales letter written. I aim for around 2000 words. I use inexpensive copywriters to get the ball rolling and edit the work myself. As long as I get at least 2% conversions I am very happy. Warrior Forum

        5. Have the affiliate tools made. Banners, Reviews, Etc. Warrior Forum

        6. Format the sales letter, add the extra touches, and do on page SEO.

        7. Open a BRAND NEW Clickbank account for each product.

        8. Submit the product for approval.

        9. Have a press release written and submitted to several sources.

        10. Start building a TON of backlinks

        Then I repeat for a new niche. The only thing I do for the old sites is continue to build backlinks to keep the ranks up.

        I have one system.

        Find a Niche
        Outsource all creation of product and website
        Promote
        Find a new Niche and repeat

        All sales come from search engines and affiliates.

        EVERYTHING is outsourced to Warrior Forum members. I have used Elance and similar places and I highly prefer and recommend using Warrior Forum members because of both price and quality.

        I have never and do not currently:

        Do affiliate marketing
        Do PPC or any paid advertising
        Write or outsource articles
        Build list
        DO any upsells or downsells
        Do CPA
        Do offline marketing
        Do Adsense
        or anything else

        Even though I outsource a lot of stuff I still work on this 12-16 hours a day. Anyway that's what I do.
        Great info. The first strategy that I made money with was my own information products. That was after two years trying of building a very beginner-ish bodybuilding website.

        But... I do not make $500/day.... not yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      Thanks again, I really value and appreciate your input.

      I woke today with that quote in my head "A Priceless Solution"

      One of my best performing sites is my "start a web design business" -- and I can only attribute that as being ..."a priceless solution" which, I believe it is.

      Thanks again dude. Have a good one.
      It's no problem John, I think everyone has room for improvement. I'm personally trying to improve my work ethic this year, doubt I'll be able to work 15 hours a day like you do though

      I think others have made some great replies also, especially Dave Rodman.

      Originally Posted by HollyStar View Post

      Thank you oneplusone for this - for what ever reason this made all the sense in the world to me. I'm so thankful you sent it to me, it really changed everything, and put all the pieces together. I was getting overloaded with acronyms and crazy terminology that I couldn't comprehend, but this seemed so simple! You just saved me a tone of time, as now I'm pretty much ready to take all the info I've absorbed and start applying it profitably! SO to show my gratitude, when ever you're in need of that VO, first one's on me...within reason of course! lol
      Glad you found it useful Holly, I've watched the video about 20 times myself, as a constant reminder so I don't waste time promoting products/services which have little chance of success.

      I'll hold you to the VO offer, don't worry I won't give you a 400 page script to read.

      Should only be about 100 pages (I'm joking, of course)
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    What a great thread! I have thoroughly enjoyed reading about other people's experiences - thank you to all who have posted above. So, I guess it's time for me to evaluate where I am. I am making a consistent 5 figure income entirely passively. I know that may seem inconceivable for many people here; I also know that for others, this is just pin-money.

    The fact is that the world, genuinely, is our oyster here. When I started, I would have loved to be where I am right now, but the thing I have come to realise is that moving forward, at least for me, is NOT about doing what you do now over and over - the old 'rinse and repeat' mantra; it is about breaking through to a different level of thinking.

    For sure, the OP's question about the possibility of achieving $500 per day passively - actually he said 'consistently' - is entirely possible I believe. Am I there yet? No. But, if I map the growth in my business over the past 5 years, I can confidently project that I will get there within the next 2 years.

    My plan is to give-up my day job in May of this year when I will finally have achieved my initial goal of generating a sustainable online income. After that, I will continue to apply what I have learned to grow my income beyond what I ever thought was initially possible.

    For those just starting out: you need to have belief, mainly. Because belief is the starting point for the necessary effort, hard work, persistence and deep-down doggedness that will eventually get you there.

    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author TCrosby
    5 niche sites which each make $100 a day?
    10 niche sites which each make $50 a day?

    Not that I'm doing that, but sounds plausible to me
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