Is Amazon Associates Program Worth it?

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Hi Warriors,
I think IM is a good idea of getting some form of income. Since having your product remains the best way to make money since you are in control. I was just thinking: what do amazon associates program has to offer as a learning platform as well as an income earning startegy. This is a new year I am thinking that with a little patience in 6 months from now I can get some income from Amazon. My questions are:
1) Can you earn a living from amazon? Anyone who have?
2) Amazon is better than CPA networks am I right?
Your answers either way will be appreciated
Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    1) Yes

    2) Yes

    But it's the same as anything... it's not easy, you have to work it right. Find specific products that cater for the needs and requirement of your niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      1) Yes

      2) Yes

      But it's the same as anything... it's not easy, you have to work it right. Find specific products that cater for the needs and requirement of your niche.
      thank you for that
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  • Profile picture of the author Mamun_R
    Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

    Hi Warriors,
    I think IM is a good idea of getting some form of income. Since having your product remains the best way to make money since you are in control. I was just thinking: what do amazon associates program has to offer as a learning platform as well as an income earning startegy. This is a new year I am thinking that with a little patience in 6 months from now I can get some income from Amazon. My questions are:
    1) Can you earn a living from amazon? Anyone who have? Possible only if you have the time and resource to create a lot of related content that can cater your amazon stuff.
    2) Amazon is better than CPA networks am I right? Not necessarily, some CPA networks pay you up to $70 per lead and even if you invest in PPC, you can still keep almost 30% - 40% profit
    Your answers either way will be appreciated
    Thank you
    See my response in red. Hope it helps
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

      It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

      So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author matt5409
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers
        that sounds like one hell of an achievement for such a short space of time. unbelieveable, almost.
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        • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
          Originally Posted by matt5409 View Post

          that sounds like one hell of an achievement for such a short space of time. unbelieveable, almost.
          great thank you
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        • Profile picture of the author roley
          Originally Posted by matt5409 View Post

          that sounds like one hell of an achievement for such a short space of time. unbelieveable, almost.
          ROFL, yep there are usually a lot of unbelievable claims being spouted in this forum about amazon.

          Usually behind those claims is a $97 ebook being promoted LOL a clear indication of total nonsense

          Amazon you can make money but dont think that in 3 months or even 6 your going to be raking in 6k ( laughable ) or the even absurd $10k which one person on here spouts!
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers
        please please I need to get in touch with you since I think you will be a great resource for me How can I do that?
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      • Profile picture of the author MrDay
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers

        You must be a Super Affiliate under the radar.
        Even for people like Problogger, took him years to hit 6 figures with the Amazon affiliates program.

        So awesome achievement!
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by MrDay View Post

          You must be a Super Affiliate under the radar.
          Even for people like Problogger, took him years to hit 6 figures with the Amazon affiliates program.

          So awesome achievement!
          I'm not a super affiliate or a Guru and I don't make 6 figures with the associates program. I average about 4K per month from Amazon and 2K per month from another aff program where I review high ticket physical programs. Last month was December and I made 9K with Amazon because of the holiday shopping season.

          Amazon is the easiest way for newbies to make money online in my opinion because of their super high conversion rate. Mine is at 10% which is huge compared to Clickbank's 1 or 2%

          I tried for 3 years to make things like Clickbank, CPA etc work and I fell flat on my face every time. I started making money from Amazon the fist month I started with them and all it took was me sending them 30 visitors for that first sale. From there I just duplicated my site that was working well and that's it. It's not rocket science but it takes a bit of hard work especially in the beginning.

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          • Profile picture of the author matt5409
            Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

            I'm not a super affiliate or a Guru and I don't make 6 figures with the associates program. I average about 4K per month from Amazon and 2K per month from another aff program where I review high ticket physical programs. Last month was December and I made 9K with Amazon because of the holiday shopping season.

            Amazon is the easiest way for newbies to make money online in my opinion because of their super high conversion rate. Mine is at 10% which is huge compared to Clickbank's 1 or 2%

            I tried for 3 years to make things like Clickbank, CPA etc work and I fell flat on my face every time. I started making money from Amazon the fist month I started with them and all it took was me sending them 30 visitors for that first sale. From there I just duplicated my site that was working well and that's it. It's not rocket science but it takes a bit of hard work especially in the beginning.

            Cheers
            you must have been publishing a shedload of unique content during those times to earn what you are making today. you claim it's not rocket science but you've achieved what most can only dream of! too modest!
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          • Profile picture of the author James Vang
            Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

            I'm not a super affiliate or a Guru and I don't make 6 figures with the associates program. I average about 4K per month from Amazon and 2K per month from another aff program where I review high ticket physical programs. Last month was December and I made 9K with Amazon because of the holiday shopping season.

            Amazon is the easiest way for newbies to make money online in my opinion because of their super high conversion rate. Mine is at 10% which is huge compared to Clickbank's 1 or 2%

            I tried for 3 years to make things like Clickbank, CPA etc work and I fell flat on my face every time. I started making money from Amazon the fist month I started with them and all it took was me sending them 30 visitors for that first sale. From there I just duplicated my site that was working well and that's it. It's not rocket science but it takes a bit of hard work especially in the beginning.

            Cheers
            Gratz on your success though I do have a question.

            I was going to start promoting items using Amazon Associates but then noticed that on their product pages they have two new sections which link to the same product or similar products on other websites, sometimes being advertised for cheaper than they are on Amazon.

            This seems like a major traffic leak since Amazon said affiliates don't get a commission if the customer clicks those links and buys from the other stores.

            Has this in anyway affected your business?
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          • Profile picture of the author digimix
            Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

            I'm not a super affiliate or a Guru and I don't make 6 figures with the associates program. I average about 4K per month from Amazon and 2K per month from another aff program where I review high ticket physical programs. Last month was December and I made 9K with Amazon because of the holiday shopping season......
            About how many amazon site do you have to make that kind of money? And how many pages each site have?
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            • Profile picture of the author jan roos
              Originally Posted by digimix View Post

              About how many amazon site do you have to make that kind of money? And how many pages each site have?
              I have about 10 sites and they have around 7 or 8 reviews, contact us page, privacy page and an about us page each.

              I like to go for the main keywords in a niche because a lot of the times these keywords are not as competitive as it may seem at first glance. It takes longer to rank for these keywords but the reward at the end of the day is a lot bigger which is how I am managing to pull these numbers from 10 sites.

              Hope that helps,

              Jan
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              • Profile picture of the author digimix
                Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

                I have about 10 sites and they have around 7 or 8 reviews, contact us page, privacy page and an about us page each.

                I like to go for the main keywords in a niche because a lot of the times these keywords are not as competitive as it may seem at first glance. It takes longer to rank for these keywords but the reward at the end of the day is a lot bigger which is how I am managing to pull these numbers from 10 sites.

                Hope that helps,

                Jan
                Thanks Jan, that is very encouraging. Do you mind sharing how you promote these sites? How do you help to rank them to get the traffic?
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          • Profile picture of the author thegreatnapi
            Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

            I'm not a super affiliate or a Guru and I don't make 6 figures with the associates program. I average about 4K per month from Amazon and 2K per month from another aff program where I review high ticket physical programs. Last month was December and I made 9K with Amazon because of the holiday shopping season.

            Amazon is the easiest way for newbies to make money online in my opinion because of their super high conversion rate. Mine is at 10% which is huge compared to Clickbank's 1 or 2%

            I tried for 3 years to make things like Clickbank, CPA etc work and I fell flat on my face every time. I started making money from Amazon the fist month I started with them and all it took was me sending them 30 visitors for that first sale. From there I just duplicated my site that was working well and that's it. It's not rocket science but it takes a bit of hard work especially in the beginning.

            Cheers
            Thank you very much for your comment; this is very encouraging.
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          • Profile picture of the author glennda
            Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

            I'm not a super affiliate or a Guru and I don't make 6 figures with the associates program. I average about 4K per month from Amazon and 2K per month from another aff program where I review high ticket physical programs. Last month was December and I made 9K with Amazon because of the holiday shopping season.

            Amazon is the easiest way for newbies to make money online in my opinion because of their super high conversion rate. Mine is at 10% which is huge compared to Clickbank's 1 or 2%

            I tried for 3 years to make things like Clickbank, CPA etc work and I fell flat on my face every time. I started making money from Amazon the fist month I started with them and all it took was me sending them 30 visitors for that first sale. From there I just duplicated my site that was working well and that's it. It's not rocket science but it takes a bit of hard work especially in the beginning.

            Cheers
            Maybe you'd consider writing an ebook and make a profit from that. There are some of us that would buy it! :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers
        FYI guys, Jan sent me a review copy of his course (which he did not mention at all in his post, BTW). It's very good. Soup to nuts. I'm not saying you need this kind of stuff to make money as an Amazon affiliate but if you have absolutely no idea what you're doing then Jan's course, or a course from Dan Brock, are both good options. Gary Gregory's MOBS system is also good and can be applied to amazon sites without any trouble. In fact if you want to spend nothing and want to learn a good method for understanding keyword research, read Gary Gregory's post about MOBS (the post + entire thread around it is free and full of info). Just search for it and you'll find it. It has over 100 replies. Solid gold.

        Since Jan mentioned outsourcing, here is a blog post I did about making money with Amazon.
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      • Profile picture of the author DorianJ
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers
        Gotta say, I'm impressed with that. I would have been happy seeing consistent results in 6 months. 2-3 is great.

        To answer the OP's first question, yes Amazon Associates is worth it. I used to be a diehard ebay affiliate, but they've jacked their affiliates around so many times in the past 2 years that I dumped them in favor of Amazon and it was a great move.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers
        Is your income totally (or mostly) dependent on Amazon?

        I'm curious since some states passed laws where Amazon reacted by removing all affiliates in that state.

        Marvin
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      • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers
        I am curious - do you mind telling me how many sites you have to make a decent amount? I have recently looked into the whole physical products avenue...seems you would have to get a lot of traffic since the commissions are so low....
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      • Profile picture of the author donhx
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I make a full time income on auto pilot from Amazon.com

        It took me about 2 to 3 months of work before I started seeing some consistent results. It's been 8 months about now since I started and I now have a full time income on auto pilot, I am also outsourcing everything 100% so my business is growing without me which leaves me time to go travel and pursue other business opportunities such as product creation to diversify.

        So yeah, to answer your question. To me Amazon associates is totally worth it.

        Cheers
        Jan, do you make your full time living from Amazon sales alone? Or does your own product about Amazon make it possible for you to be at it full time? Curious.
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by donhx View Post

          Jan, do you make your full time living from Amazon sales alone? Or does your own product about Amazon make it possible for you to be at it full time? Curious.
          I make a full time income from my Amazon sites alone. About 6K per month right now which to me is a full time income. Then I make more than that by selling my products.

          Hope that helps,

          Jan
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      • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
        Whats your gross turn over?
        Remember folks, Amazons payout is just 5% average, some high and some lower, but average is just 5%. So to take home 5,000 per month you have to sell $100,000. BTW Even after I started making sales it took 4 months from the first sales for the first check to actually arrive.
        If you sold $100,000 on Clickbank you could have taken home $75,000.

        Fwiw I did Dan Brocks course about amazon, its really good and is the first actual genuine online money I made, trouble is a mouse would starve on the commissions.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ehsan_am
          Originally Posted by Blade Runner 88 View Post

          Whats your gross turn over?
          Remember folks, Amazons payout is just 5% average, some high and some lower, but average is just 5%. So to take home 5,000 per month you have to sell $100,000. BTW Even after I started making sales it took 4 months from the first sales for the first check to actually arrive.
          If you sold $100,000 on Clickbank you could have taken home $75,000.

          Fwiw I did Dan Brocks course about amazon, its really good and is the first actual genuine online money I made, trouble is a mouse would starve on the commissions.

          Well that is true. However it is probabaly 100 times easier to sell 100,000$ real life products on amazon that it is to sell 100,000$ digital clickbank products.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by Mamun_R View Post

      See my response in red. Hope it helps
      thank you for your advice
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Hi,
        I appreciate your answers to this post they are encouraging and absolutely inspirational. I would like to ask two more questions here about the same.
        1) I have tried to look for resources in the program regarding how payments are made to no avail can any one give me directions how to I will appreciate
        2) What is the maximum amount of products you can promote on your site? To elaborate ' suppose the niche is home gardening can you promote about ten of such items in that niche?'
        3)My friend told me that at times when you promote some amazon products on your site there is a likelyhood of you not getting paid if the Website visitor passes via other site! I think this is true am just wondering how do you reduce such incidences. Can someone clarify this issue. My friend referred to it as 'cookies....*something* I dont remember it well! All the same am set to begin my endevaours in amazon. Thank you all and I will really appreciate your answers
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
          Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

          Hi,
          I appreciate your answers to this post they are encouraging and absolutely inspirational. I would like to ask two more questions here about the same.
          1) I have tried to look for resources in the program regarding how payments are made to no avail can any one give me directions how to I will appreciate
          2) What is the maximum amount of products you can promote on your site? To elaborate ' suppose the niche is home gardening can you promote about ten of such items in that niche?'
          3)My friend told me that at times when you promote some amazon products on your site there is a likelyhood of you not getting paid if the Website visitor passes via other site! I think this is true am just wondering how do you reduce such incidences. Can someone clarify this issue. My friend referred to it as 'cookies....*something* I dont remember it well! All the same am set to begin my endevaours in amazon. Thank you all and I will really appreciate your answers
          1) For Amazon Associates US - https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ssoc_help_main

          2) You can promote an unlimited amount.

          3) Never heard of that and doubt that it's true....Now if your visitor clears his/her cookies, you could miss out on the sale
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander CPA
    1) Yes
    2) Amazon is a affiliate network, not a CPA network, therefore cannot be compared with each other.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by Alex Brooks View Post

      1) Yes
      2) Amazon is a affiliate network, not a CPA network, therefore cannot be compared with each other.
      thank you what i meant is not to compare the two in the way they work but the easiness of earning
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    If you're a newbie, then making a good income from Amazon affiliate program in a short amount of time will be quite difficult. You only make a small % per sale.

    But the reason many people like the Amazon program is because they are reliable, trusted and is a well known brand.

    I personally like affiliate programs that pay at least 50% or more per sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author metabinltd
    Yes, it is worth it as long as you have good search rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
    Me and my business partner make a full time living from Amazon. We currently average close to $15k a month and in December made just over $32,000. It is definitely doable and we know of people making more than us.

    Prior to this we used to use merchants from Commission Junction and Linkshare and other similar networks. They resulted in some sales but not much. Amazon really made the difference in our business.
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    • Profile picture of the author DorianJ
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      Me and my business partner make a full time living from Amazon. We currently average close to $15k a month and in December made just over $32,000. It is definitely doable and we know of people making more than us.

      Prior to this we used to use merchants from Commission Junction and Linkshare and other similar networks. They resulted in some sales but not much. Amazon really made the difference in our business.
      Once again, impressive. Nice work.
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    • Profile picture of the author jonny01
      Paula, how are you paid by Amazon? In Australia they only pay you in Amazon Gift cards - is there a simple way around this?
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
        Amazon will pay via Gift Card or via cheque to international affiliates. We get paid via a cheque. It would be nice to see Amazon pay via direct deposit but at the moment they still send cheques only.

        At the moment it costs us $10.50 to bank each cheque and then we have to wait 20 working days for it to clear plus you have to add the 60 days that you have to wait for the payment to begin with.

        But in a way, we don't really mind because we already know that in a couple of months time we will have a cheque come in. It's kind of like a buffer for the next few months where we know that the money will come in no matter what happens.
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        • Profile picture of the author carlo_sim
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          Amazon will pay via Gift Card or via cheque to international affiliates. We get paid via a cheque. It would be nice to see Amazon pay via direct deposit but at the moment they still send cheques only.

          At the moment it costs us $10.50 to bank each cheque and then we have to wait 20 working days for it to clear plus you have to add the 60 days that you have to wait for the payment to begin with.

          But in a way, we don't really mind because we already know that in a couple of months time we will have a cheque come in. It's kind of like a buffer for the next few months where we know that the money will come in no matter what happens.
          Hi Paula,

          Haven't you tried getting paid using payoneer? That's what we use to collect our amazon commissions =)

          Gian Sim
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          • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
            Originally Posted by carlo_sim View Post

            Hi Paula,

            Haven't you tried getting paid using payoneer? That's what we use to collect our amazon commissions =)

            Gian Sim
            Just had a quick look but will take a closer look at that. Thanks for letting me know.
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          • Profile picture of the author lynpurdy
            Originally Posted by carlo_sim View Post

            Hi Paula,

            Haven't you tried getting paid using payoneer? That's what we use to collect our amazon commissions =)

            Gian Sim
            Hi Gian

            I'd be grateful if you could tell us a bit more about how to use Payoneer with Amazon. I've been checking them out but it seems you need to sign up through one of their partners and Amazon isn't one of them.

            Thanks
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by joshimo View Post

              Correct me if I am wrong here, but doesn't Amazon set a session cookie only? Meaning you'll only get paid if your referral buys on the initial visit and if they leave and come back later no $??? It sounds like they don't really stack the deck to favor anyone but themselves. I know there are strategies and tactics that can make amazon viable and even lucrative for affiliates, but it just isn't for me.
              The cookie lasts 24 hours, but any item placed in the shopping cart will remain there (tagged to you) for either 60 or 90 days. I forget which, and I don't have time to go dig it up.
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        • Profile picture of the author anthony2
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          Amazon will pay via Gift Card or via cheque to international affiliates. We get paid via a cheque. It would be nice to see Amazon pay via direct deposit but at the moment they still send cheques only.

          At the moment it costs us $10.50 to bank each cheque and then we have to wait 20 working days for it to clear plus you have to add the 60 days that you have to wait for the payment to begin with.

          But in a way, we don't really mind because we already know that in a couple of months time we will have a cheque come in. It's kind of like a buffer for the next few months where we know that the money will come in no matter what happens.
          WOW....You have to wait 20 working days for a cheque to clear.
          That is extremely long compared to the states which is 7 days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
      Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

      Me and my business partner make a full time living from Amazon. We currently average close to $15k a month and in December made just over $32,000. It is definitely doable and we know of people making more than us.

      Prior to this we used to use merchants from Commission Junction and Linkshare and other similar networks. They resulted in some sales but not much. Amazon really made the difference in our business.
      Wow! Do you have a lot of sites? I guess i am trying to see how with such a low commission on physical products people can make so much money.
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
        Originally Posted by Julie McElroy View Post

        Wow! Do you have a lot of sites? I guess i am trying to see how with such a low commission on physical products people can make so much money.
        The reason you can make so much money on Amazon is that they convert extremely well. We used to use merchants from other networks and struggled for a few years like this. When we changed our links to Amazon the result was amazing. We went from something like 2 or 3 sales a week to 10 to 12 sales in a day in a matter of a few days.

        And we don't have a lot of sites. We tried the multiple site model but it didn't work for us. Now we focus on pages instead of sites. So we might create 5 product reviews and work on them solidly until they rank in the top spots on Google. Only when they are doing that do we move on to more pages.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post


          And we don't have a lot of sites. We tried the multiple site model but it didn't work for us. Now we focus on pages instead of sites. So we might create 5 product reviews and work on them solidly until they rank in the top spots on Google. Only when they are doing that do we move on to more pages.
          When I finally really understood this concept a while back, I started making much more money. Even though I'd known that google ranks PAGES, not SITES, I'd spent so much time at the beginning of my IM career working on my site as a whole, thinking that visitors would check out my entire site! Now, I take a couple of pages at a time to focus on - really great tip, Paula!
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          • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
            Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post

            When I finally really understood this concept a while back, I started making much more money. Even though I'd known that google ranks PAGES, not SITES, I'd spent so much time at the beginning of my IM career working on my site as a whole, thinking that visitors would check out my entire site! Now, I take a couple of pages at a time to focus on - really great tip, Paula!
            Thanks you share that I know know what to do with my sites
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        • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          The reason you can make so much money on Amazon is that they convert extremely well. We used to use merchants from other networks and struggled for a few years like this. When we changed our links to Amazon the result was amazing. We went from something like 2 or 3 sales a week to 10 to 12 sales in a day in a matter of a few days.

          And we don't have a lot of sites. We tried the multiple site model but it didn't work for us. Now we focus on pages instead of sites. So we might create 5 product reviews and work on them solidly until they rank in the top spots on Google. Only when they are doing that do we move on to more pages.
          what do you mean by pages Hub pages?
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          • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
            Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

            what do you mean by pages Hub pages?
            No, not Hubpages although that can work too. I just mean pages on a Wordpress site. We don't focus on the site as a whole much anymore, we simply focus on a few pages at a time on our sites until they are ranking well in Google and making money.
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            • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
              Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

              No, not Hubpages although that can work too. I just mean pages on a Wordpress site. We don't focus on the site as a whole much anymore, we simply focus on a few pages at a time on our sites until they are ranking well in Google and making money.
              Thank you I now understand what you mean
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              • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
                Hi,
                I think that Amazon holds the some future of IM Why? Am new into it and so far so good things are looking up clicks growing day by day am Happy with everyone who wrote on this thread you shaped my mind to be successful
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        • Profile picture of the author Spartacus
          Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

          And we don't have a lot of sites. We tried the multiple site model but it didn't work for us. Now we focus on pages instead of sites. So we might create 5 product reviews and work on them solidly until they rank in the top spots on Google. Only when they are doing that do we move on to more pages.
          Hi PaulaC,

          Are you actually talking about pages or posts?

          I found it a bit weird when you said pages, is it a typo?
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
    PaulaC Do you target Google US or Google AU?

    I've read alot of your posts & I bought your Amazon profit plan ebook (which is amazing ) a while back. I also heard your pod cast interview which had some great info too.

    It was your success & information that first drove me to make money with Amazon. I have started to see some success & 2011 is looking very good for me.

    One thing that really got me was how much the UK Amazon affiliate structure differs from the US.

    Amazon UK cap all commissions at £7 per sale which is really bad. I only found this out after selling a £300 item & got £7 commission.

    Also with Amazon US to get the top commission of 8.50% you need to sell 3,000+ items but with Amazon UK you need to sell 30,000+ item to get the top commission. This makes it hard to get the top commission % in the UK.

    I have no idea why the Amazon UK make it so much harder for their affilaites to make money but I'm still going to push ahead & see if I can make a good income from the program.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      We only promote to the US - so we try to rank in Google.com and we use Amazon.com only.

      We don't promote to Australia because Amazon won't send most of it's products here.

      We've never tried to promote to the UK. I guess you would have to look at the benefits of doing that. It may be easier to rank in Google.co.uk - if that's the case then it might be worth promoting to the UK. You would really need to do your home work on it.
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      • Profile picture of the author jan roos
        Originally Posted by Brandstrom View Post

        Gratz on your success though I do have a question.

        I was going to start promoting items using Amazon Associates but then noticed that on their product pages they have two new sections which link to the same product or similar products on other websites, sometimes being advertised for cheaper than they are on Amazon.

        This seems like a major traffic leak since Amazon said affiliates don't get a commission if the customer clicks those links and buys from the other stores.

        Has this in anyway affected your business?
        I have not experienced this to be an issue. Amazon's prices are very competitive and people trust them which is why I like to promote their products.
        Originally Posted by Marvin Johnston View Post

        Is your income totally (or mostly) dependent on Amazon?

        I'm curious since some states passed laws where Amazon reacted by removing all affiliates in that state.

        Marvin
        Amazon accounts for most of my income and if the laws force them to cut me off here in CA I will probably incorporate in Nevada or maybe internationally.

        Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

        We only promote to the US - so we try to rank in Google.com and we use Amazon.com only.

        We don't promote to Australia because Amazon won't send most of it's products here.

        We've never tried to promote to the UK. I guess you would have to look at the benefits of doing that. It may be easier to rank in Google.co.uk - if that's the case then it might be worth promoting to the UK. You would really need to do your home work on it.
        Paula you and your partner are absolutely amazing IM i want to learn form you I visited your blog and I must say whatever you say here is the truth. I was impressed Thank you
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      • Profile picture of the author thegreatnapi
        Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

        We only promote to the US - so we try to rank in Google.com and we use Amazon.com only.

        We don't promote to Australia because Amazon won't send most of it's products here.

        We've never tried to promote to the UK. I guess you would have to look at the benefits of doing that. It may be easier to rank in Google.co.uk - if that's the case then it might be worth promoting to the UK. You would really need to do your home work on it.
        Many thanks for all your comments on this thread
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      • Profile picture of the author KingArthur
        Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

        We don't promote to Australia because Amazon won't send most of it's products here.

        You as an Australian citizen are making tons of money off the purchases of Americanos and yet you do not have to pay any taxes in the U.S. from your income while some U.S. people are losing their jobs and need to make the income you are making and if they did the U.S. government would benefit from the taxes paid by them on the huge income they could be making and should be making if they would only start trying.

        Solution:

        Amazon should set up an Aussie based division of Amazon so people from the U.S. can concentrate on the Aussie market and make money from Aussie purchases since it is supposed to be a free world, isn't it?
        If Amazon had an Aussie division then they could send products to Australians and New Zealanders.

        Thanks so much for what you shared but could you please ask Amazon if they will do what I suggested. I would like to start marketing in Australia and New Zealand BECAUSE IT IS NOT HEALTHY TO PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN A ONE COUNTRY BASKET.

        Thanks for the hope you are giving people with your success,

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    • Profile picture of the author thegreatnapi
      Originally Posted by BarryOnline View Post

      PaulaC Do you target Google US or Google AU?

      I've read alot of your posts & I bought your Amazon profit plan ebook (which is amazing ) a while back. I also heard your pod cast interview which had some great info too.

      It was your success & information that first drove me to make money with Amazon. I have started to see some success & 2011 is looking very good for me.

      One thing that really got me was how much the UK Amazon affiliate structure differs from the US.

      Amazon UK cap all commissions at £7 per sale which is really bad. I only found this out after selling a £300 item & got £7 commission.

      Also with Amazon US to get the top commission of 8.50% you need to sell 3,000+ items but with Amazon UK you need to sell 30,000+ item to get the top commission. This makes it hard to get the top commission % in the UK.

      I have no idea why the Amazon UK make it so much harder for their affilaites to make money but I'm still going to push ahead & see if I can make a good income from the program.

      Thanks for all this information about Amazon UK.
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  • Profile picture of the author JHC81
    You can make a full time living with Amazon many have and I'm one of them, but just because a lot of us made it work this doesn't mean it will work for everyone, it's a lot of work just like it any business, you have to advertise your blog, split test, test and do more testing. But if you stay in this game and don't give up then yeah .... you will make a full time living from Amazon.
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    Tried it for a year...low returns and very demanding
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  • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
    thank you all for your answers but I still need more answers to the later questions
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    • Profile picture of the author roley
      Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

      thank you all for your answers but I still need more answers to the later questions
      Your asking the wrong people. DO what I did

      Pick up the Phone and speak to amazon directly. Many of the high claims on this forum are bogus. I don't say that just because i am mean. It's because I had a very long in depth talk with an amazon associate manager and they made it clear that " They have not heard of people making above 10K in amazon, if they had they would talk about " they said " The majority of the high earners have sites which have extreme traffic " No 8 page wonders even if they are 1000 words a page.

      Now having said that. You could earn $1000 maybe $2000 if you had a lot of sites and really put in a lot of effort but dont expect to buy a $97 ebook go out and be making $10k by the end of the year.. That is total toss talk geared only to get people to keep buying an ebook.

      Amazon has conversion power but that in itself doesn't equate to easy money.

      Making good money in affiliate requires a lot of consistent work
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      • Profile picture of the author Eager2SEO
        Originally Posted by roley View Post

        Your asking the wrong people. DO what I did

        Pick up the Phone and speak to amazon directly. Many of the high claims on this forum are bogus. I don't say that just because i am mean. It's because I had a very long in depth talk with an amazon associate manager and they made it clear that " They have not heard of people making above 10K in amazon, if they had they would talk about " they said " The majority of the high earners have sites which have extreme traffic " No 8 page wonders even if they are 1000 words a page.

        Now having said that. You could earn $1000 maybe $2000 if you had a lot of sites and really put in a lot of effort but dont expect to buy a $97 ebook go out and be making $10k by the end of the year..k
        Nope, there are guys who sell coaching here and make 50-100K/yr from those mini-sites. I think they exaggerate down the amount of work and outsourcing needed to accomplish that. Some of them use words like "easy" and "deadbeat" making it seem like there is no work involved.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
        Originally Posted by roley View Post

        Your asking the wrong people. DO what I did

        Pick up the Phone and speak to amazon directly. Many of the high claims on this forum are bogus. I don't say that just because i am mean. It's because I had a very long in depth talk with an amazon associate manager and they made it clear that " They have not heard of people making above 10K in amazon, if they had they would talk about " they said " The majority of the high earners have sites which have extreme traffic " No 8 page wonders even if they are 1000 words a page.

        Now having said that. You could earn $1000 maybe $2000 if you had a lot of sites and really put in a lot of effort but dont expect to buy a $97 ebook go out and be making $10k by the end of the year.. That is total toss talk geared only to get people to keep buying an ebook.

        Amazon has conversion power but that in itself doesn't equate to easy money.

        Making good money in affiliate requires a lot of consistent work
        It's good to hear an honest opinion. Are you an amazon affiliate yourself?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
        Originally Posted by roley View Post


        Making good money in affiliate requires a lot of consistent work
        I completely agree with this - you need to take consistent action.

        I spent many months looking for the magic red button and throwing up these mini sites hoping to make $$s and it just doesn't work. I was lucky to make $20 in a month.

        I think to make big money with a little site you are going to need a lot of traffic, which means you need outsourced staff to help you out.

        If you have the money then go for it.

        I was about to give up on the whole Amazon thing when I decided to just go back to basics.

        Build a real website in a topic that you are personally passionate about. It might be a hobby like gardening or cooking.

        Publish articles to show you know what you're talking about, give your readers useful information to help them learn.

        Write a blog about your day to day activities, let your readers get to know you and communicate with you.

        Throw in a review or two of some great products that those readers really need. Make the review balanced and add value with it - don't just use a plugin to regurgitate Amazon content.

        Understand that it will take time, you need to be patient and just keep nurturing the site.

        I did this and had my first $1000 month in December. The site was 18 months in the making, but I enjoy working on it so this doesn't feel like work to me.

        I can't retire just yet, but it beats spending $$$$ looking for the secret to getting rich overnight.

        JMHO
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  • Profile picture of the author wisecrack
    I have been trying to make money with Amazon for the past 8 months after following a course on the subject that I bought from Sara Young. Like all internet marketing it is very competative. I have so far found it difficult to find a product within any niche that is not already saturate with other affiliates.

    The other problem is getting good listing on Google for my web pages which are usually wordpress or blogger blogs.

    In order to get listed I am using article marketing and after several months am having some success with some keywords. However to date sales have been somewhat limited. I am still optimistic and feel that more success will come as I add more articles for different keyword.

    I have and am still promoting a few CPA offers in the health and Fitness sector. Once again I am using article marketing to drive traffic to the web pages for these products.

    Hope this is useful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
      Originally Posted by wisecrack View Post

      I have so far found it difficult to find a product within any niche that is not already saturate with other affiliates.
      It is fairly easy really.
      Just this last week I started promoting a book from Amazon that is in the top 10 list.

      After 36 hours I was #1 in Goggle for variations of:

      "Author name Book Name"

      Crappy .info domain with PR0

      Pick a product that gets over 4 stars in reviews with over 30 reviews
      Write 700-1000 quality words about it with associated words sprinkled through it.
      Get backlinks to that page.
      Write 5 shorter articles relating to this.
      Link from all 5 back to main page.
      Back link smaller pages.
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        Does anyone spin the articles they use for additional content
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      • Profile picture of the author spen
        Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

        It is fairly easy really.
        Just this last week I started promoting a book from Amazon that is in the top 10 list.

        After 36 hours I was #1 in Goggle for variations of:

        "Author name Book Name"

        Crappy .info domain with PR0

        Pick a product that gets over 4 stars in reviews with over 30 reviews
        Write 700-1000 quality words about it with associated words sprinkled through it.
        Get backlinks to that page.
        Write 5 shorter articles relating to this.
        Link from all 5 back to main page.
        Back link smaller pages.
        Hi Craig Mcpherson,

        I want to ask any questions.

        How many books in your that site? only a book? it is EMD site?

        thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by spen View Post

          Hi Craig Mcpherson,

          I want to ask any questions.

          How many books in your that site? only a book? it is EMD site?

          thanks
          That post is from over 2 years. Buying a domain per product isn't worth it in 2013 as the ranking benefits from EMDs aren't what they used to be.
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    • Profile picture of the author peter25k
      Originally Posted by wisecrack View Post

      I have been trying to make money with Amazon for the past 8 months after following a course on the subject that I bought from Sara Young. Like all internet marketing it is very competative. I have so far found it difficult to find a product within any niche that is not already saturate with other affiliates.

      The other problem is getting good listing on Google for my web pages which are usually wordpress or blogger blogs.

      In order to get listed I am using article marketing and after several months am having some success with some keywords. However to date sales have been somewhat limited. I am still optimistic and feel that more success will come as I add more articles for different keyword.

      I have and am still promoting a few CPA offers in the health and Fitness sector. Once again I am using article marketing to drive traffic to the web pages for these products.

      Hope this is useful.
      You should also try to bookmark your articles, ping them and try to generate backlinks to your articles using livejournal etc...

      Ping everything and bookmark it. If you can get hold of RSS feeds (but only for your account) then you should also ping them submit them into feedburner and ping it again.

      I know this kind of method seems to be time consuming and labour intensive but what it will do to your traffic generating power is something amazing.

      I hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author glennda
      Originally Posted by wisecrack View Post

      I have been trying to make money with Amazon for the past 8 months after following a course on the subject that I bought from Sara Young. Like all internet marketing it is very competative. I have so far found it difficult to find a product within any niche that is not already saturate with other affiliates.

      The other problem is getting good listing on Google for my web pages which are usually wordpress or blogger blogs.

      In order to get listed I am using article marketing and after several months am having some success with some keywords. However to date sales have been somewhat limited. I am still optimistic and feel that more success will come as I add more articles for different keyword.

      I have and am still promoting a few CPA offers in the health and Fitness sector. Once again I am using article marketing to drive traffic to the web pages for these products.

      Hope this is useful.
      I've done pretty much the same with Sara Young and article marketing. The only time I've made money is in article writing and it was quick. I should keep trying because I have to admit, I did enjoy the course.
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Originally Posted by glennda View Post

        I've done pretty much the same with Sara Young and article marketing. The only time I've made money is in article writing and it was quick. I should keep trying because I have to admit, I did enjoy the course.
        Try using the hubs and squidoo they do well
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        • Profile picture of the author glennda
          Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

          Try using the hubs and squidoo they do well
          Started using squidoo but not hubs yet but thank you for the suggestion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
    I think the whole "pay by cheque" issue is the biggest gripe I have with Amazon - otherwise I think that it is a great way to make money online. I wish they would follow Clickbank's lead and start allowing direct deposit for international affiliates.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by Mrs S View Post

      I think the whole "pay by cheque" issue is the biggest gripe I have with Amazon - otherwise I think that it is a great way to make money online. I wish they would follow Clickbank's lead and start allowing direct deposit for international affiliates.
      I think with amazon you only need to be patient
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      • Profile picture of the author Spartacus
        PaulaC and others that do well with Amazon, do you think it will take a long time before it's saturated? It seems to get more and more popular on here, also more and more people explaining how to do everything regarding to Amazon.
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        • Profile picture of the author bay37
          Originally Posted by stealthstorm View Post

          PaulaC and others that do well with Amazon, do you think it will take a long time before it's saturated? It seems to get more and more popular on here, also more and more people explaining how to do everything regarding to Amazon.
          It'll never get saturated.

          1. SEO and gaining good rankings is getting harder and harder.

          2. People are lazy.

          3. Tons of new products being released every day (that eventually get listed on Amazon).

          4. People are lazy.

          From what I have seen, most people who buy these courses and ebooks are not Internet Marketers - they're chronic (ebook/blueprint) collectors.
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          • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
            Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

            It'll never get saturated.

            1. SEO and gaining good rankings is getting harder and harder.

            2. People are lazy.

            3. Tons of new products being released every day (that eventually get listed on Amazon).

            4. People are lazy.

            From what I have seen, most people who buy these courses and ebooks are not Internet Marketers - they're chronic (ebook/blueprint) collectors.
            I like your answers
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            • Profile picture of the author luane
              I purchased Sara Young's product, Paula's Product and Dan Brock and found them all to be very helpful. It is the first time in 3 years that I have made consistent sales with Amazon. Sara's way of simplying the article process that speaks to customers is awesome. Paula's product helped me to set up a page on a health product in amazon that makes consistent sales and Dan showed me the importance of backlinking. All in all, I don't put all of my eggs into one basket as in the internet world, your basket can get overturned. I still use Clickbank to promote some products from websites on Squidoo. I have found that my older websites are now ranking for some keywords that I didn't expect, so I put all my high ranking pages into Market Samarai and have gone back to add in images (such as Paula suggests) from amazon and have made a sale here or there.

              It can be tedious and the commissions are low once you've tasted of Clickbank's 25 and 30 dollar commissions but as the Amazon mentors point out the BIG difference is that Amazon is brimming with BUYERS that are ready with credit card in hand. That makes a big difference. I like what Paula (or her partner said) that it would be better to drive traffic to one item that you find is selling well, that to build 1000 mini-sites that never have any sales or very little traffic. Find a product that sales well, and make it an authority site. Hope that helps! Kristie
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              • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
                Originally Posted by luane View Post

                It can be tedious and the commissions are low once you've tasted of Clickbank's 25 and 30 dollar commissions but as the Amazon mentors point out the BIG difference is that Amazon is brimming with BUYERS that are ready with credit card in hand. That makes a big difference. I like what Paula (or her partner said) that it would be better to drive traffic to one item that you find is selling well, that to build 1000 mini-sites that never have any sales or very little traffic. Find a product that sales well, and make it an authority site. Hope that helps! Kristie
                I also think the same you should concentrate to build traffic to the website then rinse and repeat again and again I must also say that I find Paula to be great in her advice Thank you
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          • Profile picture of the author Spartacus
            Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

            It'll never get saturated.

            1. SEO and gaining good rankings is getting harder and harder.

            2. People are lazy.

            3. Tons of new products being released every day (that eventually get listed on Amazon).

            4. People are lazy.

            From what I have seen, most people who buy these courses and ebooks are not Internet Marketers - they're chronic (ebook/blueprint) collectors.
            Some good points, probably not many people do what they say. I myself followed some free material that got me started good and will buy 1 WSO which I think will be enough to get me going for a long while. The rest of it I will learn on my own.
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            • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
              Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post

              Some good points, probably not many people do what they say. I myself followed some free material that got me started good and will buy 1 WSO which I think will be enough to get me going for a long while. The rest of it I will learn on my own.
              with a WSO an keeping it here you are done
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              • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
                getting clicks but no conversions what could be the problem should I start with low priced items what do you think for those who have made it ? I have ten clicks on my product links but no order any advice?
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                • Profile picture of the author cooler1
                  Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

                  getting clicks but no conversions what could be the problem should I start with low priced items what do you think for those who have made it ? I have ten clicks on my product links but no order any advice?
                  Ten clicks is nothing. Ive had hundereds of clicks but no sales yet although i only have 1 Amazon review based site currently plus a couple of blog site's which have Amazon products.

                  Where is your site ranked for it's main keyword? If your getting the traffic you probably need to work on your site's presentation and the quality of the reviews.
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                • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                  Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

                  getting clicks but no conversions what could be the problem should I start with low priced items what do you think for those who have made it ? I have ten clicks on my product links but no order any advice?
                  Advice? Yes - patience...

                  For the sake of discussion, let's say that the likelihood of making a sale is the same as tossing 'heads' in a coin flip: 50%.

                  Flip the coin ten times, and the odds say you should get five heads and five tails.

                  But it doesn't work like that. In reality, you can expect many ten-flip trials to come up all heads and many to come up all tails.

                  The reason it works like that is that each coin flip is an independent event, not influenced by earlier results. Which puts it under the "Law of Large Numbers", mistakenly called the law of averages. The Law of Large Numbers says that as the number of trials grows immensely large, the result will trend toward the expected result.

                  Relating that to Amazon sales, I read somewhere that Amazon converts about 15% of visitors into buyers. Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but it will work for the purpose of this post.

                  If it was true, one might expect to make 15 sales of some sort for every 100 clicks to Amazon. In reality, what that means is that over the millions of visitors Amazon gets from all sources, about 15% of them buy something.

                  The up side is that your next ten clicks could all buy something, or anywhere in between, and the result would be perfectly legitimate.
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                  • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
                    Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                    Advice? Yes - patience...

                    For the sake of discussion, let's say that the likelihood of making a sale is the same as tossing 'heads' in a coin flip: 50%.

                    Flip the coin ten times, and the odds say you should get five heads and five tails.

                    But it doesn't work like that. In reality, you can expect many ten-flip trials to come up all heads and many to come up all tails.

                    The reason it works like that is that each coin flip is an independent event, not influenced by earlier results. Which puts it under the "Law of Large Numbers", mistakenly called the law of averages. The Law of Large Numbers says that as the number of trials grows immensely large, the result will trend toward the expected result.

                    Relating that to Amazon sales, I read somewhere that Amazon converts about 15% of visitors into buyers. Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but it will work for the purpose of this post.

                    If it was true, one might expect to make 15 sales of some sort for every 100 clicks to Amazon. In reality, what that means is that over the millions of visitors Amazon gets from all sources, about 15% of them buy something.

                    The up side is that your next ten clicks could all buy something, or anywhere in between, and the result would be perfectly legitimate.
                    Hi ,
                    That is the one of wisest answers I have had for years. Thank you for nurturing more patience in Me!
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                • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
                  Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

                  getting clicks but no conversions what could be the problem should I start with low priced items what do you think for those who have made it ? I have ten clicks on my product links but no order any advice?
                  One thing I learnt very early on was this.

                  Don't simply put a text link in your article or review. What I mean is this:

                  If your articles reads

                  "The Acme Roadrunner WY-3dT model D is a great product"

                  and you hyper link "great product" to Amazon, I would be wary clicking on it. I have no idea where you are sending me. Remember we are talking about regular Joe's here who would not think twice about looking down at the task bar to see where the link leads.

                  What started working for me was when I told them where they were going.

                  "I have been doing some homework on the Acme Roadrunner WY-3dT model D and I found that one particular seller, Amazon, had 68 reviews with 61 of them being 4 stars and above AND they were selling it for the cheapest price of the three stores I visited. So, rave reviews, lowest price and one day shipping means Amazon is my selection when buying the The Acme Roadrunner WYLE-3dT model D"

                  They were already on my site in buying mode, they simply did not know WHERE to buy it. All they needed was a funnel to direct them.
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                  • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
                    Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

                    One thing I learnt very early on was this.

                    Don't simply put a text link in your article or review. What I mean is this:

                    If your articles reads

                    "The Acme Roadrunner WY-3dT model D is a great product"

                    and you hyper link "great product" to Amazon, I would be wary clicking on it. I have no idea where you are sending me. Remember we are talking about regular Joe's here who would not think twice about looking down at the task bar to see where the link leads.

                    What started working for me was when I told them where they were going.

                    "I have been doing some homework on the Acme Roadrunner WY-3dT model D and I found that one particular seller, Amazon, had 68 reviews with 61 of them being 4 stars and above AND they were selling it for the cheapest price of the three stores I visited. So, rave reviews, lowest price and one day shipping means Amazon is my selection when buying the The Acme Roadrunner WYLE-3dT model D"

                    They were already on my site in buying mode, they simply did not know WHERE to buy it. All they needed was a funnel to direct them.
                    That is the best advice for placing a product link Thank you I am still wondering if starting with low priced items in Amazon really matters? :confused:
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                    • Profile picture of the author AFI
                      Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

                      That is the best advice for placing a product link Thank you I am still wondering if starting with low priced items in Amazon really matters? :confused:
                      Don't waste your time on low priced items. Honestly. I have a site that has low priced items because it was an old domain that I had that I wanted to do something with so I turned it into an Amazon site. The average price of products on my site is like $15.00 so I'm earning like ~ .50ish per sale. It's just not even worth it to keep the site updated.
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                      • Profile picture of the author profitsforall
                        Originally Posted by AFI View Post

                        Don't waste your time on low priced items. Honestly. I have a site that has low priced items because it was an old domain that I had that I wanted to do something with so I turned it into an Amazon site. The average price of products on my site is like $15.00 so I'm earning like ~ .50ish per sale. It's just not even worth it to keep the site updated.
                        But if that small site helps you hit the next commission tier it can help on the large priced items.

                        I've focused on larger priced items, and I'm going to do a couple of hopefully high volume low cost items to help tick up the commission levels.
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                        • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
                          My patience is running out but I have vowed not to give up. May be my approach of getting traffic is all wrong :rolleyes:I am using article marketing. Anyone doing amazon with article marketing how does it convert? am worried it is too much work !any shortcuts please let me know
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                          Originally Posted by profitsforall View Post

                          But if that small site helps you hit the next commission tier it can help on the large priced items.

                          I've focused on larger priced items, and I'm going to do a couple of hopefully high volume low cost items to help tick up the commission levels.
                          This is very true. But with my low priced site it doesn't convert that well. My higher priced sites convert better.
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                  • Profile picture of the author VeitSchenk
                    Craig, that's perfect!

                    it's so easy to forget that not everybody is as Internet savvy as we are.

                    I've heard the statistic that the average "joe" as you call him or her buys something online every 3 months (whereas us it's more like 3 times a day...)

                    so for them it's a scary thing, every single time.

                    Great point

                    Veit

                    Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

                    One thing I learnt very early on was this.

                    Don't simply put a text link in your article or review. What I mean is this:

                    If your articles reads

                    "The Acme Roadrunner WY-3dT model D is a great product"

                    and you hyper link "great product" to Amazon, I would be wary clicking on it. I have no idea where you are sending me. Remember we are talking about regular Joe's here who would not think twice about looking down at the task bar to see where the link leads.

                    What started working for me was when I told them where they were going.

                    "I have been doing some homework on the Acme Roadrunner WY-3dT model D and I found that one particular seller, Amazon, had 68 reviews with 61 of them being 4 stars and above AND they were selling it for the cheapest price of the three stores I visited. So, rave reviews, lowest price and one day shipping means Amazon is my selection when buying the The Acme Roadrunner WYLE-3dT model D"

                    They were already on my site in buying mode, they simply did not know WHERE to buy it. All they needed was a funnel to direct them.
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                    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                      Unless it's something people buy in large quantities (and I'm struggling to think of an example), nobody promotes low-priced Amazon products for the actual commissions.

                      As I see it, there are only two good reasons.

                      1. Even a $1.00 download moves you closer to the next tier in the commission structure. Selling 6 of those nets you $0.24 in direct commission, it's true. But it also means you make 50% more n that high-priced item you really want to sell. On a $1,000 treadmill, that's a raise from $40 to $60.

                      2. Sometimes you link to a low-priced item because it just fits in a hub, lens, blog post, or other content you're using to lure traffic to your reviews or promos. Linking to low-priced items can increase trust, as you aren't just pumping them for money, you're trying to help them. Besides, you never know what they might buy once they get on the Amazon site.

                      Originally Posted by kea55 View Post

                      so if you have multiple reviews on one page, how do you backlink that? like I mean seems like you would have a lot of keywords to backlink for and readers would have to keep scrolling when they reached your page right?
                      There are a couple of ways to get around the scrolling issue...

                      1. You could put a short table of contents at the top of the page, with links to the various products further down.

                      2. You could backlink to the specific spot on the page, rather than simply linking to the top of the page.
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                    • Profile picture of the author ollietcros
                      Well I just started with Amazon about a month ago and so far I have not made a sale yet,but I am positive that things will be OK very soon when I start getting that very much valued traffic. As for whether you can make a living from Amazon, I would say possible but difficult.
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            • Profile picture of the author 1wisewoman
              If you told me a year ago about making a living promoting Amazon products, I would have laughed it off. Not anymore, the joke's on me LOL.

              This summer I purchased IPK (Info Product Killer). With the info in this course, One Week Marketing, and following Tiffany Dow, I finally got around to creating a "test lens" at Squidoo. Within two weeks, I made sales. My first affiliate sales ever in two years! Prior to this I only made money writing content.

              Now I'm a firm believer in the possibility of making a living through marketing Amazon products. :-)

              A word of advice: Try promoting highly rated products(4+ stars), with at least 10 reviews that people are searching for (use Google Keyword Tool) and "AREN'T" on the bestselling and movers/shakers lists. It may take a little more time, but they're less competitive. I think this is why I made sales so fast. As more Amazon affiliate courses come out and more people move to promoting physical products, many people start out promoting the items on these lists.
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              • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
                I've got more than half way towards a full time income with Amazon and my earnings rise every month. I've found it much easier to earn with them than Clickbank and think that Amazon is a good way to go for newcomers while they are gaining enough experience and knowledge to create their own products.

                Although I'm doing ok I still experiment and learn from others. Recently I got Dan Brock's free ebook (in his sig) and am impressed enough to have built a site following the methods outlined in his ebook which are different in some ways to what I am doing. In fact he makes so much sense his are the only emails I have read for a long time. Worth checking out.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lerning
            Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

            It'll never get saturated.

            1. SEO and gaining good rankings is getting harder and harder.

            2. People are lazy.

            3. Tons of new products being released every day (that eventually get listed on Amazon).

            4. People are lazy.

            From what I have seen, most people who buy these courses and ebooks are not Internet Marketers - they're chronic (ebook/blueprint) collectors.
            Thanks for saying
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        • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
          Originally Posted by stealthstorm View Post

          PaulaC and others that do well with Amazon, do you think it will take a long time before it's saturated? It seems to get more and more popular on here, also more and more people explaining how to do everything regarding to Amazon.
          Internet is agreat resource it can never get saturated
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        • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
          Originally Posted by tnmarketing View Post

          I have to agree with Mrs S about the way they pay but aside from that there is so much potential to make money and so many niches to pick from with Amazon I find it alot easier that Clickbank.
          Thank you for that
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  • Profile picture of the author Bingo123
    As you probably know by now there are lots of people out there making a living promoting Amazon products. I recently changed my online strategy and decided to start doing some Amazon stuff as well and have already made a few sales after just a few weeks in without too much effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
    Originally Posted by dsmoothbrotha View Post

    This is a no brainier! Yes Yes YES!. The reason I say this is because I and other people I know make money every month with Amazon. I know people say that the commissions are low, but its easy to sell products that cost over at least $100. As long as you stay with the products that are hot and it helps that Amazon will tell you what is selling best on their site. I would say to make some easy money go for it.
    encouraging thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author AudioRoxor
    I'm new to IM and I'm personally starting as an Amazon Affiliate. I bought Dan Brock's course and it was great. I think the only thing I really need to get down is backlinking.

    I just finished my first niche site... I have all my articles set to drip feed and I'll start back linking them as they come out. I just need to create a schedule and keep track.

    On to my next niche site... and then I'll make another... and then I'll make another. I'm hoping to have atleast 10 sites within the next 3 months. Hell, I made my first complete one in under 5 days... I can only imagine how quick I'll be when I get good at it! I'm sort of a computer nerd though.

    I'm really going to try not and pay attention to my stats because I know/believe If I do the right thing... conversions will start to occur maybe a few months down the line.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roey Pimentel
    Regarding the comment from Brandstrom - post #19 "This seems like a major traffic leak since Amazon said affiliates don't get a commission if the customer clicks those links and buys from the other stores."

    Perhaps these are the third party items which we do get commission from. (Check the Amazon Affiliate Earnings Report - At the bottom of the report there is a break down of Total Amazon.com items Shipped and Total Third party Items Shipped. I believe this may be referring to those items.
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    people just buy stuff but a few implement what they learn here
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  • Profile picture of the author Tomwood
    My biggest gripe with Amazon and the only reason I don't focus on them 100% is the fact that they don't pay lifetime commission if they did I would jump in with both feet
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  • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
    If you really want to know the nuts and bolts of earning a lot with Amazon, study PaulaC's blog (in her sig). I've been following her model and seeing great results.

    I wrote reviews of products that cost $250 or so, and am averaging 10% of my amazon clicks turning into purchases for those products!

    Although commissions are much lower than clickbank, conversion is way higher!

    Here are a few tips (most of which I learned from Paula!)

    1. Choose products that cost at least $xxx, so your commissions will be more significant than the .35 cents commissions I'd earn on the sale of a book.

    2. Write helpful reviews of the product. The key being "helpful". Don't just rehash the description, spend a day researching everything you can find out about the product, and present it in an easy-to-read and friendly format.

    3. Get SEO traffic by getting backlinks with your anchor text to your review pages until you are ranking well for your keywords. Target keywords like "product xyz review" so that you'll get traffic from people who have their hands on their wallet and want to buy this type of product.

    4. Get the Preview Tool working on your site: https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ciates/tips/t8 so that when people simply hover over your amazon text or image link, they get cookied into your affiliate link. (Test this out, it may be more or less effective in different niches.)

    5. Don't worry about competition. Most people are lazy and will abandon their sites within a few weeks or months, meaning that it will be easy for you to outrank them if you keep at working on the same site, their sites' rankings will fall.

    6. You don't need to get ALL the traffic in the world for that keyword to make a good living. If you can rank in the top 3 spots in Google for a couple of different long-tail variations of your keyword, all that traffic can bring you a nice amount of money. So what if some traffic goes to other sites? Does Walmart lose sleep because some people shop at Target?

    7. Work on ONE SITE at a time! Many people want a cluster of 10 or 50 sites that each earn a couple of bucks a day. While that can work, you'll be spending an enormous amount of energy just checking your stats and logging into each site to do tweaking! Additionally, the amount of backlinks pointing to a domain is a big factor in google. So, if you are working on backlinks for your page example.com/blue-widgets, you are also indirectly boosting the rankings of your other pages like example.com/red-widgets, because you are bringing more backlinks to the domain as a whole - which is impossible when you're spread across a bunch of sites.

    8. Don't stop doing these steps until you have at least 100 visitors daily from the search engines for your target keywords. Once you have that much traffic, you can do split testing and tweak. But, most people will give up way before they have 100 visitors from their keywords daily.

    9. Keep imagining a point in time - maybe 10 or 18 months from now - when you are selling 25 $250 products through your site daily. At 7.5% commission, that is $18.75 x $468.75 every day. Yes, you'll have some expenses, you might be outsourcing some backlink building and article writing, but $468 daily can support most families in style. And you won't have to deal with customer service, returns, emails for support, and can take a couple of weeks off at at time without harming your stream of income!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
      Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post

      7. Work on ONE SITE at a time! Many people want a cluster of 10 or 50 sites that each earn a couple of bucks a day. While that can work, you'll be spending an enormous amount of energy just checking your stats and logging into each site to do tweaking! Additionally, the amount of backlinks pointing to a domain is a big factor in google. So, if you are working on backlinks for your page example.com/blue-widgets, you are also indirectly boosting the rankings of your other pages like example.com/red-widgets, because you are bringing more backlinks to the domain as a whole - which is impossible when you're spread across a bunch of sites.
      Great, GREAT point!

      I hammer this point to my students and yet many of them are just not patient enough to take it one site at a time and then when they tell me how scattered they feel when they tried doing 5 or 10 at once, I tell them "Told you so!"

      If you really want to do well with Amazon, build your empire one site at a time. Once your site has solidifed on Google's first page, then work on the next!

      Ellen, this is one of the best posts that I've read on Amazon Associates in a long time! Excellent contribution!
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Originally Posted by Michael Franklin View Post

        Great, GREAT point!

        I hammer this point to my students and yet many of them are just not patient enough to take it one site at a time and then when they tell me how scattered they feel when they tried doing 5 or 10 at once, I tell them "Told you so!"

        If you really want to do well with Amazon, build your empire one site at a time. Once your site has solidifed on Google's first page, then work on the next!

        Ellen, this is one of the best posts that I've read on Amazon Associates in a long time! Excellent contribution!
        pure wisdom Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author CMCarlin
      Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post


      4. Get the Preview Tool working on your site: https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ciates/tips/t8 so that when people simply hover over your amazon text or image link, they get cookied into your affiliate link. (Test this out, it may be more or less effective in different niches.)
      I will incorporate this soon, but I would assume that you can assign a tracking ID to it, but my thinking is, it doesn't matter if they get the cookie if they actually never click on a link. Yes, there is the small chance they may visit amazon by typing it in, so that is a definite benefit. I'm just thinking out loud on how I can track the effectiveness of this.

      Thanks for sharing, by the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author tamalanwar
    I am curious - do you mind telling me how many sites you have to make a decent amount? I have recently looked into the whole physical products avenue...seems you would have to get a lot of traffic since the commissions are so low....
    Hi Julie, you are missing the big point, even if a digital product pay much % of commission, they usually sell on $7 or $97.

    On the flip side, one physical product can cost $5,000 which will pay you $200 @ only 4% rate.

    It is easier to market a real product than a digital one, because you have a large number of consumers who are willing to buy that product.

    Just see: On the Christmas, people buy real gifts as presents, but not ebooks/softwars. They spend lots of money on this season; just as the guru amazon affiliates have mentioned on this thread, they got some huge commission on this Christmas season. Makes sense?
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by tamalanwar View Post

      Hi Julie, you are missing the big point, even if a digital product pay much % of commission, they usually sell on $7 or $97.

      On the flip side, one physical product can cost $5,000 which will pay you $200 @ only 4% rate.

      It is easier to market a real product than a digital one, because you have a large number of consumers who are willing to buy that product.

      Just see: On the Christmas, people buy real gifts as presents, but not ebooks/softwars. They spend lots of money on this season; just as the guru amazon affiliates have mentioned on this thread, they got some huge commission on this Christmas season. Makes sense?
      In my opinion physical product are better
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  • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
    This is a really valuable discussion.

    Think about this: Ask your real-life friends and relatives this question:

    "Have you ever bought an ebook?"

    I did an informal survey of my friends, and they all said, "no."

    Then I asked the same group of people, "What's the most recent 3 purchases you've made online?"

    And the answer always included amazon within the past few weeks or months!

    Most everyone orders from amazon. More and more people order things online every day that they would not have thought to order online a year or three ago (when they were more used to driving to brick and mortor stores.)

    Even I, who have been in IM for 5 years, find myself ordering categories of products for my house that I used to drive to Walmart or Target for to save time.

    And Amazon does an INCREDIBLE job of converting visitors into customers and upselling and cross-selling. Our job as affiliates is to get "product-hungry" regular folks over to amazon, then let amazon work their magic.

    Ok, back to work to tweak some of my review pages.

    One more tip:
    Use a plugin like "all in one seo" on your WP site and pay attention to what the "snippet" of text that is displayed on your SE result says - that will dramatically affect how many people click through to your listing, even if you're not in the top spot or two, you can get much more traffic by putting in 160 characters of highly targeted information, rather than just letting Google pick up the first 160 characters in your post, which may just be introductory words.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post

      This is a really valuable discussion.

      Think about this: Ask your real-life friends and relatives this question:

      "Have you ever bought an ebook?"

      I did an informal survey of my friends, and they all said, "no."

      Then I asked the same group of people, "What's the most recent 3 purchases you've made online?"

      And the answer always included amazon within the past few weeks or months!
      I don't recall if this has been brought up here yet, but with the upsurge in popularity of the Kindle and similar e-readers, ebooks look to be a growth opportunity.

      Besides, sell enough of those $0.99 ebooks, and you can give yourself a nice raise on those higher priced items...
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      One more tip:[/B] Use a plugin like "all in one seo" on your WP site and pay attention to what the "snippet" of text that is displayed on your SE result says - that will dramatically affect how many people click through to your listing, even if you're not in the top spot or two, you can get much more traffic by putting in 160 characters of highly targeted information, rather than just letting Google pick up the first 160 characters in your post, which may just be introductory words.
      I found that useful Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

    Hi Warriors,
    I think IM is a good idea of getting some form of income. Since having your product remains the best way to make money since you are in control. I was just thinking: what do amazon associates program has to offer as a learning platform as well as an income earning startegy. This is a new year I am thinking that with a little patience in 6 months from now I can get some income from Amazon. My questions are:
    1) Can you earn a living from amazon? Anyone who have?
    2) Amazon is better than CPA networks am I right?
    Your answers either way will be appreciated
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    Basically, it's just research a niche, buy a good url (or use existing domain), create Amazon store, repeat
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  • Profile picture of the author jerrywilhelm
    The fact is there is more traffic out there than you can shake a stick at and people are buying stuff online like mad, heck, "I'm" buying stuff online like mad. There is so much money to be made selling physical products it's insane. Amazon is massive, and people just love to buy stuff there. Having said that, they are far from the only source for physical products...Buy.com,linkshare,Commission Junction etc etc. If your willing to do the work it's hard "NOT" to make money. The fact is you can "& DO" make money in your sleep.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by jerrywilhelm View Post

      The fact is there is more traffic out there than you can shake a stick at and people are buying stuff online like mad, heck, "I'm" buying stuff online like mad. There is so much money to be made selling physical products it's insane. Amazon is massive, and people just love to buy stuff there. Having said that, they are far from the only source for physical products...Buy.com,linkshare,Commission Junction etc etc. If your willing to do the work it's hard "NOT" to make money. The fact is you can "& DO" make money in your sleep.
      wonderful post thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author rockfuse
    I dont know anyone who is making a ton of money of amazon or any other program would bother spending so much energy to sell things on how to make money doing so. I use amazon and make a living off it and in no way have time to write or help people make money doing it themselves lol . Seems like a lot of bs . For the amount of time I would spend doing that I could double or triple my amazon income and that is much better for the long term.
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    • Profile picture of the author nyrsimon
      SO I'll share my 7 - 8 week amazon experience based on actual results.

      Around Thanksgiving I think, I took an old adsense site that was making a few bucks and threw some Amazon products on it (it's in a niche that is hot during the holiday season). I made some nice sales thru Amazon over the Holiday period. Nothing that I'm going to retire on but for a few minutes work very nice.

      I also registered a new domain on 4th Dec. It was for a household appliance! Lets call it light bulbs (I'm keeping the real one confidential!!!). The site I registered was lightbulbreviews.info (yes a .info).

      I've done some backlinking and stuff using Fiverr and currently I am at position #25 for my main keyword and climbing but I am also getting good traffic through long-tail keywords that contain the brand and model name. Made my second sale yesterday. Not bad given I am barely spending any time on this.

      I can see a LOT of opportunity here.

      Anyway just my personal experience, take it for what it's worth!

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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Originally Posted by nyrsimon View Post

        SO I'll share my 7 - 8 week amazon experience based on actual results.

        Around Thanksgiving I think, I took an old adsense site that was making a few bucks and threw some Amazon products on it (it's in a niche that is hot during the holiday season). I made some nice sales thru Amazon over the Holiday period. Nothing that I'm going to retire on but for a few minutes work very nice.

        I also registered a new domain on 4th Dec. It was for a household appliance! Lets call it light bulbs (I'm keeping the real one confidential!!!). The site I registered was lightbulbreviews.info (yes a .info).

        I've done some backlinking and stuff using Fiverr and currently I am at position #25 for my main keyword and climbing but I am also getting good traffic through long-tail keywords that contain the brand and model name. Made my second sale yesterday. Not bad given I am barely spending any time on this.

        I can see a LOT of opportunity here.

        Anyway just my personal experience, take it for what it's worth!

        Simon
        long key word is a good source of geninue traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author bjgran
    Hi, Smartdoctor:
    From what I know about Amazon Associates, it's well worth the time and effort. I'm just now in the process of creating some "sites" that will connect with Amazon, but it's been highly recommended to me, and I know others who are making lots of $$ every month through their associate accounts.
    Good Luck!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by bjgran View Post

      Hi, Smartdoctor:
      From what I know about Amazon Associates, it's well worth the time and effort. I'm just now in the process of creating some "sites" that will connect with Amazon, but it's been highly recommended to me, and I know others who are making lots of $$ every month through their associate accounts.
      Good Luck!!!
      I am new in it too and I have to put more effort on traffic building for my websites Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author scorpio007
    I know that you can make a really good living from being an Amazonassociate..I did a lot of research and talked to a lot of people that made serious money on Amazon
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by scorpio007 View Post

      I know that you can make a really good living from being an Amazonassociate..I did a lot of research and talked to a lot of people that made serious money on Amazon
      I have also done my research well and I can say this is the truth
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    • Profile picture of the author tritrain
      Originally Posted by scorpio007 View Post

      I know that you can make a really good living from being an Amazonassociate..I did a lot of research and talked to a lot of people that made serious money on Amazon
      Like I've mentioned before, take advantage of Squidoo and, in particular, Hub Pages to test the niche. Once you've found a good niche, then you can use those pages to point to your Amazon affiliate store.


      ***Important***

      Always, always make sure your affiliate store site is more than just a bunch of products. It must provide value to the visitors, as you don't want to have it labeled as a "thin affiliate", which Google hates.

      Add other scripts and features to the site and add original content/value.

      The very best is to build a store into a directory on an existing, well-established domain. The nicely organized, professional looking store can actually be considered a "service" to the folks that have long hung out there. A friend of mine has a shark site that has been around for years. He added an Amazon store to it and is now making a nice, steady income. It's win-win for everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Originally Posted by tritrain View Post

        Like I've mentioned before, take advantage of Squidoo and, in particular, Hub Pages to test the niche. Once you've found a good niche, then you can use those pages to point to your Amazon affiliate store.


        ***Important***

        Always, always make sure your affiliate store site is more than just a bunch of products. It must provide value to the visitors, as you don't want to have it labeled as a "thin affiliate", which Google hates.

        Add other scripts and features to the site and add original content/value.

        The very best is to build a store into a directory on an existing, well-established domain. The nicely organized, professional looking store can actually be considered a "service" to the folks that have long hung out there. A friend of mine has a shark site that has been around for years. He added an Amazon store to it and is now making a nice, steady income. It's win-win for everyone.
        Squidoo are important for this business I have tested them and I like them.
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  • Profile picture of the author rileyb
    Yes you can make great money with Amazon!
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  • Profile picture of the author paydayloner
    Ellen C. Braun touched on this above, but for those of you who are making this work, do you find there's a good price range of products to stay between?

    In other words, if you're selling only $5 products, you won't make much commission, so it makes sense to market higher-priced products.

    But can you go too high? I wonder if there's a point where a lot of people won't spend that much for a product online, because they want to see it in a store or try it out. So is there like an upper limit where it's not worth marketing things that sell for more than $1,000? $2,000?
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  • Profile picture of the author bouncingboy
    I think including Amazon is worth it.

    On my Adsense websites, I will usually reference a book or product as a recommended example item to help the reader solve a problem. I could care less whether or not they buy that particular product. I don't have to spend time writing copy on a product I've never used by looking at other reviews. All I want is the click to get that cookie in a user's browser for 24 hours, and hope that the user buys something else later on. With a conversion rate of 5-10%, I'm pretty happy with just getting that cookie in there. I would rather have the user exit via an Adsense click. But if they don't click on it, I'll settle for the Amazon cookie.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffczyz
    Lots of great info in this post and I wanted to chime in and provide some info on my results.

    Unlike some IM'ers, I have a full-time job and sell my own Clickbank products and other products on Clickbank in both the IM space and other niches. I've passively been involved in selling on Amazon for while and when I began to see so much junk being sold on Clickbank I turned my direction back to Amazon.

    I started revamping a few of my sites in June of 2010 and made less than $200. I began mixing my sites (2-3 of them) with reviews, articles and video reviews. I created traffic using core SEO methods, video posting and backlinking.

    In the span of a month I was able to increase my traffic and my amazon commissions from less than $200 to over $800. The next month was even better.

    While I love the initial setup and getting everything going, I hate the maintenance because I'm lazy. Typically after a month or so I'll use some auto posting plugins that keep the site looking good. I've managed to keep most of my top rankings for my sites and most are within the first page of Google.

    A few tips I've learned that I can pass on. I have a site that promotes smaller dollar value, popular products...think impulse buys. These alone push my volume and commission percentages up very quickly each month. I actually dont care how much I make from this site, the entire purpose is to get my order quantities up for commissions on bigger orders.

    My bigger dollar order sites are detailed, better reviews, less "noise". I always add in accessories for those big dollar products if available. My big dollar product sites almost always have video reviews. Just simple powerpoint presentations that I've designed to be product-review stylized. A little goes a long way.

    I never sell on my sites. Every is based on reviews and social proof. If people are on my sites it's because they are already in buying mode. My job is to push them off the fence on the right side while delivering helpful information.

    SO for those asking, YES, the Associates program is worth it. In fact, I actually recommend Amazon over Clickbank and eBay Partner programs for anyone that actually wants to make their first money (or any money) online.

    You won't make $45,137 in 30 days from the start like some of those push button Clickbank products, but if you want to start seeing results, give it a try.

    Jeff
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by jeffczyz View Post

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      SO for those asking, YES, the Associates program is worth it. In fact, I actually recommend Amazon over Clickbank and eBay Partner programs for anyone that actually wants to make their first money (or any money) online.
      Jeff
      I thought may be clink bank was better but you seem to have had a real life experience with both
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  • Profile picture of the author CMCarlin
    She means pages. But, what does it matter? Pages. Posts. Don't over think it
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    • Profile picture of the author Spartacus
      Originally Posted by CMCarlin View Post

      She means pages. But, what does it matter? Pages. Posts. Don't over think it
      Because if she meant pages I wonder what she is going to do with it.

      If you got a review site you post reviews as posts...
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post

        Because if she meant pages I wonder what she is going to do with it.

        If you got a review site you post reviews as posts...
        Only if you're using blogging software as a blog.

        Even the post is displayed as a "web page".

        I can't speak for Paula, but that's how I interpreted her statement. Not in the Wordpress 'page' vs. 'post' definitions...
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
        Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post

        Hi PaulaC,

        Are you actually talking about pages or posts?

        I found it a bit weird when you said pages, is it a typo?
        Originally Posted by CMCarlin View Post

        She means pages. But, what does it matter? Pages. Posts. Don't over think it
        Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post

        Because if she meant pages I wonder what she is going to do with it.

        If you got a review site you post reviews as posts...

        We post our reviews as PAGES or POSTS but mostly as PAGES and the only reason we do that is because we use a theme called Flexsqueeze which allows full width pages. So in other words we can remove the sidebar on those pages so that the reader doesn't get distracted and click away.

        But as I said, we have reviews on POST pages as well and they still make sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    Most of my reviews are on pages and my posts are posts. Works wonderfully for me
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    • Profile picture of the author Spartacus
      Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

      Most of my reviews are on pages and my posts are posts. Works wonderfully for me
      I guess it can be done both ways. I would assume that one isn't necessarily better than the other. Just a matter of choice......

      I like them as posts so my home page is filled with for example 5 reviews.

      Pages will be used for about, contact etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        soo much ambiguity on this issues of pages! Could it be HubPages Because I am using them and amazon offers and things seems to be moving in the right direction but slowly
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      • Profile picture of the author jan roos
        Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post

        I guess it can be done both ways. I would assume that one isn't necessarily better than the other. Just a matter of choice......

        I like them as posts so my home page is filled with for example 5 reviews.

        Pages will be used for about, contact etc.
        Thats how I do it as well. Seems to work just fine. It can go both ways though.

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        • Profile picture of the author Zimmerp
          I have been using Amazon for about a year now.

          If I offer the right product - look at the bestsellers list - it is a good vehicle to use.

          However, if you are attempting to flog a crappy prodcut, the results will not be good.

          I always refer to the bestsellers in a particular niche 1st.

          Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah
    You can make a living off of both of them...don't let anyone tell you one only one thing works....develop a clear exact plan and stick with it..you can get either of them to work....master the area you are in....thats what those who are top do...
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  • Profile picture of the author joshimo
    Correct me if I am wrong here, but doesn't Amazon set a session cookie only? Meaning you'll only get paid if your referral buys on the initial visit and if they leave and come back later no $??? It sounds like they don't really stack the deck to favor anyone but themselves. I know there are strategies and tactics that can make amazon viable and even lucrative for affiliates, but it just isn't for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author CMCarlin
      Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post

      Because if she meant pages I wonder what she is going to do with it.

      If you got a review site you post reviews as posts...
      But you can also use wordpress as a general CMS, not just a blogging platform.

      Originally Posted by joshimo View Post

      Correct me if I am wrong here, but doesn't Amazon set a session cookie only? Meaning you'll only get paid if your referral buys on the initial visit and if they leave and come back later no $??? It sounds like they don't really stack the deck to favor anyone but themselves. I know there are strategies and tactics that can make amazon viable and even lucrative for affiliates, but it just isn't for me.
      its a 24 hour cookie
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Do you think Amazon will become saturated? I know there's many niches but there is only so many of them and it seems that more and more people are becoming Amazon affiliates all the time and are competing to get on the 1st page of Google for the highly searched keywords in their niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Do you think Amazon will become saturated? I know there's many niches but there is only so many of them and it seems that more and more people are becoming Amazon affiliates all the time and are competing to get on the 1st page of Google for the highly searched keywords in their niche.
      If your sole strategy for generating referrals is competing on Google for a handful of obvious keywords, then I'd say that there is a real possibility of saturating the obvious niches. Especially if that competition is among superficial 'review sites' scraped from Amazon itself.

      Beyond that, Amazon has millions of items that fit almost as many niches. Once you get past butting heads over laptop computers, cameras and big-screen TVs, there's a lifetime worth of products and matches there to exploit. And I use the word 'exploit' in the best possible "everybody wins" way...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
    Yesterday someone bought a product to keep cats out of their garden on my site. Of all random things! (That's not something I promote, but with Amazon you get credit when people buy anything at all through your affiliate link!)

    Like Paula advises, I've found that really high-quality reviews work best. I read up on all the technical details, and explain the features and benefits in every day language, which people really appreciate. It takes me 6+ hours to write one review - and that is because I spend hours gathering the relevant information, breaking it down into bite-sized pieces, and presenting it pleasantly.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post

      Yesterday someone bought a product to keep cats out of their garden on my site. Of all random things! (That's not something I promote, but with Amazon you get credit when people buy anything at all through your affiliate link!)

      Like Paula advises, I've found that really high-quality reviews work best. I read up on all the technical details, and explain the features and benefits in every day language, which people really appreciate. It takes me 6+ hours to write one review - and that is because I spend hours gathering the relevant information, breaking it down into bite-sized pieces, and presenting it pleasantly.
      do you put some links in your review or you put them after the content? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
        Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

        do you put some links in your review or you put them after the content? :confused:
        I weave links into my review whenever I mention amazon, which is always in the section about where to get the best price for this product.

        I also link all of my images to amazon.

        Hope that helps
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        • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
          Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post

          I weave links into my review whenever I mention amazon, which is always in the section about where to get the best price for this product.

          I also link all of my images to amazon.

          Hope that helps
          Thank you it is helpful. Does it matter the number of links you put in a page?
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          • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
            Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

            Thank you it is helpful. Does it matter the number of links you put in a page?
            I don't think there is a formula for an exact number of links.

            Your page should be helpful for potential buyers. That's it. If a helpful page contains 3 links or 23 links, either way is fine.

            Some of my short pages have one link, and some of my longer pages, with 3,500 word articles, have about 20 links- I don't count them!
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            • Profile picture of the author Eduard Ruppel
              Hey,

              me to I started just now with Amazon Affiliate. And I really looking forward to it. I'm at the moment to make a course with Michael Franklin. Who is the best mentor and coach in this whole world!!! I just want to start step by step with on side, till this one is moving and than open a new one. I look for the long term with Amazon Affiliate. And like you read here, you can be successful with it, if you just follow the advise the people give you. And stay patient!!!

              Good luck to you
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  • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
    I don't write long reviews and I do well. I do a brief overview of the product, list features, then pros and cons, social proof, and then summarize. I also might link to a youtube video. As long as I'm getting traffic to my page (which I think is what making money on amazon is all about), I'm getting sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
      Originally Posted by thebarksmeow View Post

      I don't write long reviews and I do well. I do a brief overview of the product, list features, then pros and cons, social proof, and then summarize. I also might link to a youtube video. As long as I'm getting traffic to my page (which I think is what making money on amazon is all about), I'm getting sales.
      Good post....2 things:

      1) Short reviews can do just as well as the long reviews. Most visitors scan posts and want to get to the meat of the information.

      2) Google still shows a lot of love to blogs with youtube videos within the posts. They're very easy to incorporate! It's a great way to accelerate your rankings on google if you're site is stuck.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    Yeah I think it's worth it. The commissions are low, but the products tend to convert a lot better than clickbank. Promote amazon products in addition to CPA and other affiliate programs. It's best not to have all your eggs in one basket anyways.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by sarahberra View Post

      . It's best not to have all your eggs in one basket anyways.
      Yeah you have to spread the risk by incoporating other plans on your site
      I think Adsense or CPA can be a perfect fallback plan
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
        Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

        Yeah you have to spread the risk by incoporating other plans on your site
        I think Adsense or CPA can be a perfect fallback plan
        Spreading the risk is always good but let me suggest that if you try Adsense, CPA, Amazon, and other affiliate networks that you don't combine them on the same site.

        I've tested sites that combine various networks against sites that just have Amazon and the sites with just Amazon always outdo the sites with the combined networks. I think it's because too many affiliate links on one site turn off a lot of visitors.
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        • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
          Originally Posted by Michael Franklin View Post

          I've tested sites that combine various networks against sites that just have Amazon and the sites with just Amazon always outdo the sites with the combined networks. I think it's because too many affiliate links on one site turn off a lot of visitors.
          Really ???? Am wondering how come the hupages and squidoo do well yet they have both amazon and adsense :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author anthony2
        Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

        Yeah you have to spread the risk by incoporating other plans on your site
        I think Adsense or CPA can be a perfect fallback plan
        I understand multiple streams of income but i would avoid adsense
        all together...Why do you want to make to 0.10 cents per click or $10.00 plus dollars per sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sell
    It's sort of like everything else, stay with it until you become an expert, most lose focus and move on for some reason.

    It's like shopping in a store, something catches there eye and they move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    I feel its worth it if you know what you are doing and understand the terms of service, payout system etc. There are literally thousands of products (probably more) to promote in different niches and its a trusted company, but the thing is to make sure you do not get discouraged. In the beginning, you may start out selling hundreds of dollars worth of products and ending up with 10-20 dollars worth of commissions and feel you are being cheated, which is why it’s important to read the fine print and make sure you understand it.
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  • Profile picture of the author NateRivers
    It depends what you get good at. The top people in CPA would never mess around with amazon's 4% commissions. But the people making gonzo with amazon probably don't do any CPA. I personally think you have to be smarter to make your money doing straight CPA than stuff like amazon sites. I fall into the amazon category... I could never get CPA to consistently be profitable, but I can make one hell of an information site. Go figure.
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    • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
      Originally Posted by NateRivers View Post

      It depends what you get good at. The top people in CPA would never mess around with amazon's 4% commissions. But the people making gonzo with amazon probably don't do any CPA. I personally think you have to be smarter to make your money doing straight CPA than stuff like amazon sites. I fall into the amazon category... I could never get CPA to consistently be profitable, but I can make one hell of an information site. Go figure.
      If you're good with traffic generation and getting the top spots on search engines, you'll make money no matter what the monetization method is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lerning
      Originally Posted by NateRivers View Post

      It depends what you get good at. The top people in CPA would never mess around with amazon's 4% commissions. But the people making gonzo with amazon probably don't do any CPA. I personally think you have to be smarter to make your money doing straight CPA than stuff like amazon sites. I fall into the amazon category... I could never get CPA to consistently be profitable, but I can make one hell of an information site. Go figure.
      Thanks for this Nate. Very helpful
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  • Profile picture of the author kea55
    hi there. is it better to have your product descriptions as pages or as blog posts on your site?
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  • Profile picture of the author Roey Pimentel
    Kea55,

    I think it comes down to the number of product descriptions you will have. If it is only going to be a few, then pages would be okay, but if you are going to have hundreds, then use posts.
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    • Profile picture of the author kea55
      Originally Posted by Roey Pimentel View Post

      Kea55,

      I think it comes down to the number of product descriptions you will have. If it is only going to be a few, then pages would be okay, but if you are going to have hundreds, then use posts.
      so if you have multiple reviews on one page, how do you backlink that? like I mean seems like you would have a lot of keywords to backlink for and readers would have to keep scrolling when they reached your page right?
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    I'm making a full time income building Amazon sites for others. The Amazon thing is so popular right now and there are some people who don't know how to do it the right way. I've learned from Jan Roos (who posted in this thread), PaulaC (who posted in this thread), Dan Brock and the Niche Affiliate Program by Chris Guthrie.

    So it's not just a matter of writing a review site and slapping it up there, there is a lot more involved than that. Jan's WSO is good to learn how. I think it's the best out of all that I mentioned.
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    • Profile picture of the author GoldenEye
      Originally Posted by AFI View Post

      I'm making a full time income building Amazon sites for others. The Amazon thing is so popular right now and there are some people who don't know how to do it the right way. I've learned from Jan Roos (who posted in this thread), PaulaC (who posted in this thread), Dan Brock and the Niche Affiliate Program by Chris Guthrie.

      So it's not just a matter of writing a review site and slapping it up there, there is a lot more involved than that. Jan's WSO is good to learn how. I think it's the best out of all that I mentioned.
      Well I bought Paula's "Amazonian" product, can you tell me if Jan's methods are much different or do you recommend I buy his too before starting off buidling a site?
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      • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
        Hi to all Posters,
        I am happy that this thread is slowly shaping the my business to what it is today. When I posted this thread I had not started with Amazon but the overwhelming response on this thread gave me the morale to go ahead. I am happy to report that I have finally made my first two sales and it was one of the best moments in My entire online career spanning a few years.
        Having said that:

        I have seen two issues that are arising from the recent post and they seem to be weighty. I would appreciate any further brainstorming on them

        1) According to Roley calling Amazon is better than listening to people advice here! I think he is wrong ( that is my own opinion)
        2) There is too much noise on how bogus some of the Amazon guides are and they are just but a bunch of useless collection! Am afraid if this is the truth!

        My recommendation
        1)I have no intention to blow my trumpet but let the truth be said : This thread is the best Guide for success in Amazon as far as am concern. Since I have not bought any Product out there on Amazon all i did is to start this thread and continuously learn by reading it PERIOD!
        Read this thread and you are good to go!
        2) I have to share this with you since other warriors helped me as well.
        Test your product and keyword with Hub pages and any other Web 2.o platform and then see how well it converts.

        THATS ALL I DID AND I AM GETTING DAILY CLICKS AM HAPPY AND WILLING TO SHARE MORE ON THIS THREAD.

        Good luck to Everyone
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        • Profile picture of the author GoldenEye
          So do we build hub pages to test them first, and then build an authority type site after knowing its a good converting metric? I am confused as to whether we should focus on building "pages" vs. building "sites" since I always thought Google would give more ranking authority towards a site with more and relevant content and pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthony2
    I never used amazon as a affiliate but going off what i read from other marketers.
    I would prefer CPA Networks: Why (higher pay,more freedom,have your own affiliate manager to talk too, can get paid weekly if you choose etc)
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    • Profile picture of the author Komrad87
      Originally Posted by anthony2 View Post

      I never used amazon as a affiliate but going off what i read from other marketers.
      I would prefer CPA Networks: Why (higher pay,more freedom,have your own affiliate manager to talk too, can get paid weekly if you choose etc)
      I only make a small amount through amazon, roughly £250 a month, but I am not too bothered about whether or not I get paid in a week. Amazon pay you 60 days after the month end and I like that because I know in 2 months that I will be getting paid and acts like a little savings account.
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  • Profile picture of the author AkosBlog
    I think yes. I use it and I make 20$ per week with it.
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    Very encouraging and inspiring thread..
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    • Profile picture of the author polrbearz
      I have to get my first niche websites GOING before any of this is even relevant to me. But--having said that---I have been hearing here on WF and in other places as well that there is a lot more potential income in physical products than digital. So my first take on the subject as a newbie is--why not be an Amazon Associate ? At some level it's just another affiliate program. As someone who has made most of their money so far through only ONE program on Clickbank, diversity sounds good.

      Thanks to the contributors to this thread----my takeaway is that getting into Amazon is a good idea. And your detailed suggestions go way beyond that.

      polrbearz

      P.S. FreshDomains--I am seeing you all over the place today. You joined a month after me but have quickly become a every involved posterer. Best of Luc.
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  • Profile picture of the author NerdGary
    Its very worth it. I like it because there are endless products that you can choose to promote for every niche imaginable, as well as all price ranges.
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  • Profile picture of the author mhobbs25
    I would say yes you could earn a full time income with Amazon. They don't pay a ton of money per product but the products are everyday products people buy anyway. So it's not hard to sell at all. People are looking for them anyway. You just have to create the sites and get it in front of the buyers. Easy money!
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Hi Everyone,
      When I wrote this thread I was not even sure of where to start but I have started And I appreciate the progress so far. My only worry is the ' amazon astore feature' seems not to give me enough catch as I had anticipated. Can anyone tell us if they are using this feature and possibly share the dos & donts... oR am I rather impatient? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Oxby
        Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

        Hi Everyone,
        When I wrote this thread I was not even sure of where to start but I have started And I appreciate the progress so far. My only worry is the ' amazon astore feature' seems not to give me enough catch as I had anticipated. Can anyone tell us if they are using this feature and possibly share the dos & donts... oR am I rather impatient? :confused:
        I have several Amazon sites. I have found I get almost no sales from Amazon Astore. Most of my results are from text links or image links.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
        Originally Posted by smartdoctor View Post

        Hi Everyone,
        When I wrote this thread I was not even sure of where to start but I have started And I appreciate the progress so far. My only worry is the ' amazon astore feature' seems not to give me enough catch as I had anticipated. Can anyone tell us if they are using this feature and possibly share the dos & donts... oR am I rather impatient? :confused:
        Personally I'd steer well clear of the Astores. In my experience people will do one of two things when they want to buy something - A go straight to Amazon and buy it because they know it's what they want or B they think they know but they're not too sure and they need to know what others think. You are targetting the B segment, and they won't get the information they need from an Astore.

        To make money you need to write decent reviews - 800-1000 words at least, that talk about the pros and cons of the product and that help the prospect decide that it is what they need to buy. Then you hook them up with Amazon and let them close the sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author robwill2
    I am quite new to internet marketing and wanted to market Amazon products by using sites such as Snipsly and Xomba. I intended to write good, informative articles and try to get traffic in this way.

    But I have read that to get an Amazon Associates account you need to have a website with several pages.

    Does anyone know what the situation is with regard to getting an Amazon Associates account?
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    • Profile picture of the author Komrad87
      Originally Posted by robwill2 View Post

      I am quite new to internet marketing and wanted to market Amazon products by using sites such as Snipsly and Xomba. I intended to write good, informative articles and try to get traffic in this way.

      But I have read that to get an Amazon Associates account you need to have a website with several pages.

      Does anyone know what the situation is with regard to getting an Amazon Associates account?
      I think it is best to get your own site just so you are in full controll and will not get taken down. Also your not wasting time backlinking an article which is not on your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author A P Geofrey
    Well I just started with Amazon about a month ago and so far I have not made a sale yet,but I am positive that things will be OK very soon when I start getting that very much valued traffic. As for whether you can make a living from Amazon, I would say possible but difficult.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aki Fagno
    My resounding answer to your questions is a big YES. But you have to be effective in selecting your affiliate product...
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  • Profile picture of the author robwill2
    I originally put this on as a separate thread, but thought later that as this thread is about Amazon, it may be answered here.

    I have been looking at ways of selling products online. Amazon in particular.

    I was given a system using Snipsly, Xomba and some other article sites to promote products.

    The advice to get onto page one of Google was to use the full description of the product as the title of the article and also for header 1.

    I see a big problem here.

    This was one example given.

    Soleus PA1-14R-32 14,000 BTU Portable Air Conditioner Review

    Well, the article was published some months ago, and is still on page one of Google today.

    That sounds great, but if you put this title into Google Keyword Tool, you find that it gets absolutely no monthly Global searches at all.

    So, if no one is searching for that term, what is the point of getting on page one of Google if you are never ever going to make any sales.

    It would seem that if you use any less obscure phrases for your title, such as maybe 'Portable Air Conditioner' you will see that there are now thousands of monthly Global searches, but you will never have a hope of getting on to page one of Google as it is far too competitive.

    How do people promote Amazon products by writing articles, would it be better to use something else for the article title, other than the product description?

    I would welcome your views on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
      Originally Posted by robwill2 View Post

      So, if no one is searching for that term, what is the point of getting on page one of Google if you are never ever going to make any sales.
      Rob,

      All the guys on here that make what I call considerably high incomes from Amazon all say the same thing.
      Make your front page an authority page. 800-1,000 words. Put as many LSI keywords in it as possible, includung words like "best", "cheap", "buy", "purchase","website" and a word I use constantly, "amazon".

      You will start ranking for terms you never thought of.
      Link from every post or page on your site back to your index page twice. Once in text and the other in a pic.

      Backlink your index page like there is no tomorrow then grab those backlinks and backlink them. I kid you not, it works (the cheque I got in the mail last week says so)

      Cheers mate,

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      • Profile picture of the author Joe2
        Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

        Rob,

        All the guys on here that make what I call considerably high incomes from Amazon all say the same thing.
        Make your front page an authority page. 800-1,000 words. Put as many LSI keywords in it as possible, includung words like "best", "cheap", "buy", "purchase","website" and a word I use constantly, "amazon".

        You will start ranking for terms you never thought of.
        Link from every post or page on your site back to your index page twice. Once in text and the other in a pic.

        Backlink your index page like there is no tomorrow then grab those backlinks and backlink them. I kid you not, it works (the cheque I got in the mail last week says so)

        Cheers mate,

        Craig
        Craig

        As far as I can see (although I may be wrong), there are three kinds of sites you can set up.

        1) A site (or a mini site) devoted to a particular model such as "Samsung xxxxx"

        2) A site for a range of models in a particular niche such as "LED TVs" and have a separate page with a review for each particular model.

        3) A site with a more generic reference "Tools and Home Improvements" (from Amazon) with sub categories such as 'Lamps and Light Fixtures", "Power and Hand Tools" with reviews etc

        Am I correct in my assumption on the kinds of sites I could have?

        When you say "Make your front page an authority page. 800-1,000 words. Put as many LSI keywords in it as possible, including words like "best", "cheap", "buy", "purchase","website" and a word I use constantly, "Amazon" - what is the actual subject of this page in the 3 types of websites I have mentioned above.
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        • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
          Originally Posted by Joe2 View Post

          Craig

          As far as I can see (although I may be wrong), there are three kinds of sites you can set up.

          1) A site (or a mini site) devoted to a particular model such as "Samsung xxxxx"

          2) A site for a range of models in a particular niche such as "LED TVs" and have a separate page with a review for each particular model.

          3) A site with a more generic reference "Tools and Home Improvements" (from Amazon) with sub categories such as 'Lamps and Light Fixtures", "Power and Hand Tools" with reviews etc

          Am I correct in my assumption on the kinds of sites I could have?

          When you say "Make your front page an authority page. 800-1,000 words. Put as many LSI keywords in it as possible, including words like "best", "cheap", "buy", "purchase","website" and a word I use constantly, "Amazon" - what is the actual subject of this page in the 3 types of websites I have mentioned above.
          Joe,

          I spoke about the 3 sites you mention here

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3312875

          I now do sites based on your number 2 point above. I have sites that are very broad and very laser focused like #1 and #3 but my best results are from #2 sites.

          I answered a PM abouthis just 30 minutes ago. Here is what I wrote

          My main pages are like this. You have the main page, then category pages, then basic pages.

          On the index page I have a picture relating to all the categories and I also write a paragraph (50 words) about that category. Obviously all your categories are related to your index page so this is adding LSI keywords to your main page.

          I like to put at least 8 categories per site so there is 400 words straight away.
          This all goes above the fold.

          I then have a 400-600 word article about my main keyword underneath all this, once again putting in LSI's

          A page like this will gain authority because of the bulk of info on it. When you publish a page or post it will get indexed and ranked faster because of the weight your index page carries.

          Seriously, I have had new posts go to top 3 within minutes of publishing because of this.
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            Craig

            Very much appreciate your comprehensive reply. You have cleared a few points for me
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            • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
              I'm still searching for an answer to this question so if anyone can help, I'd be very, very appreciative....

              Will google 'slap' or discredit sites with too many affiliate links?

              I have a couple of amazon sites with affiliate links that I haven't cloaked at all and being a review site for products there's really no other kind of links.

              I'm concerned that google may see all the outgoing affiliate links and bitch slap me into next week.
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              • Profile picture of the author tritrain
                I like to aim for two general classes of Amazon products.

                Cheap, yet very popular
                - so I can get a high volume of sales, thus bringing me up to the 8% commission mark.

                Expensive - So that 8% means a better commission.


                And don't forget, the subsidiaries of Amazon net up to 15% commission (such as endless.com)!
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              • Profile picture of the author Anthony C
                Originally Posted by MalceskiFan View Post

                I'm still searching for an answer to this question so if anyone can help, I'd be very, very appreciative....

                Will google 'slap' or discredit sites with too many affiliate links?

                I have a couple of amazon sites with affiliate links that I haven't cloaked at all and being a review site for products there's really no other kind of links.

                I'm concerned that google may see all the outgoing affiliate links and bitch slap me into next week.
                I run a few amazon sites and all my outgoing links are amazon affiliate links which includes text, pictures, buttons, etc. I don't bother cloaking the links cause in my mind an outgoing link to Amazon is a trusted link. I'm guessing my visitors feel the same way. I had over 6000 clicks in Jan. About 90% of the clicks came from my main money site which currently ranks between #1 & #2 spots for 3 variations of my key phrase. It's been ranking in those top spots for almost 6 months now.
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              • Profile picture of the author peter25k
                Originally Posted by MalceskiFan View Post

                I'm still searching for an answer to this question so if anyone can help, I'd be very, very appreciative....

                Will google 'slap' or discredit sites with too many affiliate links?

                I have a couple of amazon sites with affiliate links that I haven't cloaked at all and being a review site for products there's really no other kind of links.

                I'm concerned that google may see all the outgoing affiliate links and bitch slap me into next week.
                You can try to use no follow tag in your links. This should do just fine! I hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    @robwill2. Id like to know the answer to that also. Im using the SEOPressor plugin. When i create a review page it asks you to enter the main keyword for the page.

    The product name keyword doesn't show any monthly searches on the Google Keyword tool yet other more generic keywords related to the niche are to competitive so what are you supposed to enter as the main keyword for the review page?
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  • Profile picture of the author Spot the Ball
    Definately can make full time income from Amazon.

    The hard part is just sieving out all the "noise" from the WSO,s if you are just starting out.

    1) Buy 1 good Amazon guide is all thats needed.
    2) Learn which backling stategy works for the least amount of input/money.
    3) Work hard building a few sites till you start to earn money from them.
    4) Re-invest profits, outsource the work and scale up as quick as possible, snowball
    the income.
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  • Profile picture of the author robwill2
    Hello Cooler1.

    Yes, it is a puzzle to me, and one that I would be grateful for an answer to.

    I am sure that promoting the higher value Amazon products could be very profitable, so I would like to get into this.

    I do see occasionally that people are searching in reasonable numbers for the exact product description, but not that often.

    I am sure that someone will come on here soon and give us the correct way to do this.
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      Originally Posted by robwill2 View Post

      Hello Cooler1.

      Yes, it is a puzzle to me, and one that I would be grateful for an answer to.

      I am sure that promoting the higher value Amazon products could be very profitable, so I would like to get into this.

      I do see occasionally that people are searching in reasonable numbers for the exact product description, but not that often.

      I am sure that someone will come on here soon and give us the correct way to do this.
      From my experience it is just as easy to sell a $200 than it is to sell a $50 product.

      Why?

      Because people looking for reviews for a specific product is already prepared to pay the price of the product they just don't know which one to get yet. This is where we come in.

      Review products that costs over $100 at least because we will make more per sale and our sales will be just as good as if we promoted a $50 product.

      Your home page will be optimized for "product x reviews" depending if there is search volume for the keyword. You will then rank your home page for that keyword and start getting sales.

      Every product that you review on your site will be on it's own page optimized for that product's keyword or keywords. If you have 7 products all on their own pages these pages will start to rank individually for the product name keywords and you get additional targeted traffic onto of the traffic you get from your home page keywords.

      Wash, rinse and repeat a few times and you have yourself a great income stream.

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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    Originally Posted by roley View Post

    Your asking the wrong people. DO what I did

    Pick up the Phone and speak to amazon directly. Many of the high claims on this forum are bogus. I don't say that just because i am mean. It's because I had a very long in depth talk with an amazon associate manager and they made it clear that " They have not heard of people making above 10K in amazon, if they had they would talk about " they said " The majority of the high earners have sites which have extreme traffic " No 8 page wonders even if they are 1000 words a page.

    Now having said that. You could earn $1000 maybe $2000 if you had a lot of sites and really put in a lot of effort but dont expect to buy a $97 ebook go out and be making $10k by the end of the year.. That is total toss talk geared only to get people to keep buying an ebook.

    Amazon has conversion power but that in itself doesn't equate to easy money.

    Making good money in affiliate requires a lot of consistent work
    I have no doubt that there are people making 10k/month with Amazon. If you're saying someone from Amazon told you that no one does that, then either he or you are aren't telling the truth. I have nothing no product or service to push here; I'm just going by my short experience with Amazon and what I see it can do. 10k/month? I'm an IM newbie, and I can see that in the realm of possibility for myself eventually, even. I'm talking years down the road, with a lot of daily work, but it is for sure possible. If a newbie would be wise to put that much effort into a single income stream is a different issue, though.

    However, I agree that it is in NO way as easy as some of the sellers of Amazon products/courses/coaching make it out to be. It's a ton of work if you want to make any significant amount of money, and it's definitely going to take a while before that starts coming in. Of course the people pushing products/services are going to artificially beef up their numbers. There's no way to prove that they're doing it, so why wouldn't they?

    Amazon definitely seems to be treated like some magical push-button system around here, and it's far from it. From the perspective of a newbie, you have to put in a ton of work/effort for very little (or no) immediate payoff- or even any payoff at all if you do it all wrong. I'm sure it's much easier for experienced marketers, though. I don't have experience with other affiliate networks, but I'm sure it's mostly the same. If you're a newbie, don't expect to buy a pre-made Amazon site or affiliate course for $100 and be making $5000/month from it. It's not gonna happen. The guy selling the course may actually be making that, but let's not forget that there's a difference between someone that's been doing IM for years and a newbie who found this forum yesterday.

    I can't speak for any of the coaching or courses offered here, and I'm sure some of them are actually great, but you need to put in a ton of work on top of it if you want to get anywhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eduard Ruppel
      Yes there are People who are making 5k to 10k a month with amazon. But this people doing it already for quiet some time.You can not expect that people who finish one Amazon course will start making this kind of money. But if those people will contribute their time and work in to it. Than it is possible to make money with it!!

      I read an Article about Amazon, and how much money they have done in 2010. And it's a lot of Money!!!! And the good thing is 40% of Amazons revenue comes from Affiliate marketers!!!


      Thing about it!!!

      And yes I'm a newbie, but i got already my first sales with my first site!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author helpingus
    I know you will find it difficult starting on your own. There is a learning curve and I would suggest that getting guidance and help from others (usually paid) will speed things up considerably for you. Best of Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author scorpio007
    I know a lot of ppl that made a lot of money on Amazon. So yes, if you have dedication then you can make lots of money there
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  • Profile picture of the author stumpy
    I've been a member of the Amazon network for many years and put links to some of their books on my websites. It generates some free income every year with no work on my part other than putting up the roiginal image and link which is just part of building the web page. Worth it, but, not going to make you rich.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Wright
    I picked up Sara Young's course and was pleasantly surprised with how well she explains the whole process of setting up Amazon product sites.

    But like many others have pointed out already, I also discovered that getting the right keywords and doing some SEO was essential before I started making money. Plus, it takes some time to start getting traffic.

    With that said, I think that the Amazon Affiliate program is definitely worth it and has a lot of potential to make a significant income.
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by timowri View Post

      I picked up Sara Young's course and was pleasantly surprised with how well she explains the whole process of setting up Amazon product sites.

      But like many others have pointed out already, I also discovered that getting the right keywords and doing some SEO was essential before I started making money. Plus, it takes some time to start getting traffic.

      With that said, I think that the Amazon Affiliate program is definitely worth it and has a lot of potential to make a significant income.
      Great I wish you all the best
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Has anyone here put CPA offers on there Amazon sites. What were the results like? Did you see a decrease in Amazon conversions or was it worthwhile?
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDayle
    Lots of posts and interesting information.

    The biggest draw I find for Amazon compared to other affiliate marketing is that it promotes physical products.

    I find it much easier to sell physical products than ebooks and such because they are more readily identified. By this, I mean that a Sony 32" flat screen is the same product no matter who you buy from. Not necessarily so with how-to informational products.

    You don't usually need to do as much selling for physical products. Yes, you need informational reviews and such to "push the customer over the edge" to buy from your link, but by the time they hit your site, it's likely they already know what they want, and often what brand, so what you are really doing is providing them emotional validation that they chose the right thing.

    This is a far cry from trying to establish your bona-fides and sell them an information product that needs to be proven to them to contain the value they are looking for, along with providing the actual solution to their problem.

    Look at your own buying habits. If you are anything like me (probably not, because we are all different individuals) by the time you are looking at reviews of a physical product, you've already decided to buy something, it's only a matter of which model or size, or price.

    On the other hand, if you are looking for information or an information product, you may spend weeks trolling through forums and searching Google or Bing before you actually do anything. Perhaps you've already tried to get something done in IM without purchasing a product. In this case, you may be ready to buy, but if not, it may be a longer sell than a physical product.

    Of course, the big draw in IM products for most folks is the high commission rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Murlu
    Been making about $400 - $500 in passive income through Amazon for the last few months. What really stepped it up is figuring out your market.

    Before, I was offering a much higher end product related to a hobby niche that I also participate in. I found out that the majority of my readers certainly didn't have that kind of income so I switched up the promotions - I started receiving double the amount of clicks and since Amazon is so great at upselling and cross selling, I often get some great commissions when people buy multiple items.
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    • Profile picture of the author glennda
      Originally Posted by Murlu View Post

      Been making about $400 - $500 in passive income through Amazon for the last few months. What really stepped it up is figuring out your market.

      Before, I was offering a much higher end product related to a hobby niche that I also participate in. I found out that the majority of my readers certainly didn't have that kind of income so I switched up the promotions - I started receiving double the amount of clicks and since Amazon is so great at upselling and cross selling, I often get some great commissions when people buy multiple items.
      What I often get confused about is why don't people just go to amazon themselves instead of going to google then to our site which will then bring them to amazon?
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      • Profile picture of the author Lerning
        Originally Posted by glennda View Post

        What I often get confused about is why don't people just go to amazon themselves instead of going to google then to our site which will then bring them to amazon?
        I think it is because a lot of the time people want to compare to make sure that what they want is what they want. They are not sure that they want these headphones or those headphones, so they look for people who have used both to get opinions on which is better.
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        • Profile picture of the author glennda
          Originally Posted by Lerning View Post

          I think it is because a lot of the time people want to compare to make sure that what they want is what they want. They are not sure that they want these headphones or those headphones, so they look for people who have used both to get opinions on which is better.
          That is a good point actually, I should do like suggested here and compare one product against another.

          Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by Murlu View Post

      Been making about $400 - $500 in passive income through Amazon for the last few months. What really stepped it up is figuring out your market.

      Before, I was offering a much higher end product related to a hobby niche that I also participate in. I found out that the majority of my readers certainly didn't have that kind of income so I switched up the promotions - I started receiving double the amount of clicks and since Amazon is so great at upselling and cross selling, I often get some great commissions when people buy multiple items.
      Purely Inspirational Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Ellen C Braun
    I get a lot of traffic for pages I've built whose names are www.mydomain.com/product-xyz-vs-product-abc

    People are wondering whether they should buy Product XYZ or Product ABC, which are similar, but have differences.

    Create a page about that and throw backlinks at that page targeting that keyword phrase (product xyz vs product abc)

    Then list the similarities and differences between ABC and XYZ, linking all your images and a few text links to Amazon. There's much less competition than trying to rank for "product abc" and your page is seriously helpful to potential buyers of one of these products! Most niches have loads of similar products from different companies, or different models made by the same company!
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
      Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post

      I get a lot of traffic for pages I've built whose names are www.mydomain.com/product-xyz-vs-product-abc

      People are wondering whether they should buy Product XYZ or Product ABC, which are similar, but have differences.

      Create a page about that and throw backlinks at that page targeting that keyword phrase (product xyz vs product abc)

      Then list the similarities and differences between ABC and XYZ, linking all your images and a few text links to Amazon. There's much less competition than trying to rank for "product abc" and your page is seriously helpful to potential buyers of one of these products! Most niches have loads of similar products from different companies, or different models made by the same company!
      This is a helpful idea - thanks! I guess I had not thought of doing a comparison! Duh!!
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by Ellen C Braun View Post

      I get a lot of traffic for pages I've built whose names are www.mydomain.com/product-xyz-vs-product-abc

      People are wondering whether they should buy Product XYZ or Product ABC, which are similar, but have differences.

      Create a page about that and throw backlinks at that page targeting that keyword phrase (product xyz vs product abc)

      Then list the similarities and differences between ABC and XYZ, linking all your images and a few text links to Amazon. There's much less competition than trying to rank for "product abc" and your page is seriously helpful to potential buyers of one of these products! Most niches have loads of similar products from different companies, or different models made by the same company!
      Thank you for that idea
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  • Profile picture of the author Rumpleteazer
    The downside of Amazon is that the commission is relatively small. The upside is that they sell EVERYTHING!!! So there is bound to be something that you are interested in enough to write articles about etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
    One Good thign about amazon is you can even use free blogging platforms like blogger, wordpress and send the visitors to amazon site. The conversion after after people sees amazon logo is very huge

    If not for your product they end up buying something in the 24hrs... it is quite possible to earn something from your visitor and do that for every visitor.

    Amazon takes care of everything you just need to redirect buyers to their site (any amazon.com page)


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  • Profile picture of the author frank07
    The problems with most people when join Amazon program and give up are:
    -Their landing pages did not get enough traffic
    -The traffic is not target, have many clicks but no sale.
    -The commission of sale is not enough with their wish.
    If you can solve this problem, you can have a cash machine .
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    • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
      Originally Posted by frank07 View Post

      The problems with most people when join Amazon program and give up are:
      -Their landing pages did not get enough traffic
      -The traffic is not target, have many clicks but no sale.
      -The commission of sale is not enough with their wish.
      If you can solve this problem, you can have a cash machine .
      I agree with you that is why it is necesary at times you seek guidance from people who have made it in this field.Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author stanislavlem
    There are tons of opinions.

    1. It's worth it
    2. It's up to you

    There are people who are making more than 10K a Month. But they really work hard.

    For example, Paula and Wanda from affiliateblogonline.com make $14.000/Month.

    However it took several years for them to achieve these results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karan Goel
    I think it works! Mind it, I have no experience working with them.
    But in near future, I'm planning to create niche sites with Amazon products!

    Hope that works!

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    • Profile picture of the author glennda
      Originally Posted by Karan Goel View Post

      I think it works! Mind it, I have no experience working with them.
      But in near future, I'm planning to create niche sites with Amazon products!

      Hope that works!

      Karan
      Karan,

      I bought a product from one of the warriors here about article writing and she focuses on amazon. Private email me if you'd like more details.

      Brenda
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      • Profile picture of the author brit16
        Everything I have read so far has been about having a site about an Amazon product. I have a blog in a specific niche that I have alot of experience from. I promote a clickbank product on the blog and was considering promoting a couple books from Amazon. The books would be more entertaining instead of informational, and would not be in competition with the clickbank product. Would this approach work? If so, how do I get started? I signed up on Amazon, but it seems alot more complicated than clickbank. Thanks for any advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe2
        Originally Posted by glennda View Post

        Karan,

        I bought a product from one of the warriors here about article writing and she focuses on amazon. Private email me if you'd like more details.

        Brenda
        Sent you a PM Brenda as I don't know how to send private email
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  • Profile picture of the author Ehsan_am
    There is something that I wanted to add to this thread that I didn't see anyone mention before.

    People generally talk about choosing best seller amazon products or 4 stars + products that receive good reviews. I personally go after as many bad products as I can. This might sound strange but the reality is that many low rated products get searches and if you just ignore them you are leaving money on the table.

    I actually would include more low rated products than top selling products on my website. The reasons behind this are simple :

    1 - Bad products get traffic. Don't forget that Brands do all kinds of advertising even if their product gets bad reviews.

    2 - You can redirect that traffic to your better products. For instance if I review a 1 star rated product on amazon I mention the cons and the pros ( in this case the cons would be emphasized) and then suggest the visitor to forget about this product and buy another one instead. By following this you can turn a targeted visitor looking for a bad product that you would have missed out on, into a buying visitor of a good product.

    3 - By following what I just wrote in 2, you gain in credibility and authority and your website looks more like a natural website instead of some cheap review website that only has good reviews to make some quick affiliate cash.
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    • Profile picture of the author carlo_sim
      Originally Posted by Ehsan_am View Post

      There is something that I wanted to add to this thread that I didn't see anyone mention before.

      People generally talk about choosing best seller amazon products or 4 stars + products that receive good reviews. I personally go after as many bad products as I can. This might sound strange but the reality is that many low rated products get searches and if you just ignore them you are leaving money on the table.

      I actually would include more low rated products than top selling products on my website. The reasons behind this are simple :

      1 - Bad products get traffic. Don't forget that Brands do all kinds of advertising even if their product gets bad reviews.

      2 - You can redirect that traffic to your better products. For instance if I review a 1 star rated product on amazon I mention the cons and the pros ( in this case the cons would be emphasized) and then suggest the visitor to forget about this product and buy another one instead. By following this you can turn a targeted visitor looking for a bad product that you would have missed out on, into a buying visitor of a good product.

      3 - By following what I just wrote in 2, you gain in credibility and authority and your website looks more like a natural website instead of some cheap review website that only has good reviews to make some quick affiliate cash.
      Good tip! will definitely add this in my arsenal =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    Some people are incredibly nit picky when they do their reviews and the reviews tend to be entirely subjective, which is why I don’t put too much stock in them when deciding on products to promote. You know people like this in the “real world.” something can be 99.9% perfect and they’ll emphasis that one flaw and give the product a terrible review because of one minor (to most people) imperfection. For example, the product wasn’t exactly as pictured or how they visualized it looking when it arrived, it worked great and there were no other problems with it performance wise, they’ll give it a 2 star rating and slam it in the review. Other times they’ll buy a cheap product and expect it to work as well or better than a more expensive product when it doesn’t even though it’s a good product in it's own right, they give it a low rating and slam the crap out of it focusing on every little imperfection. I just mostly go for products I have personally used or would use and that friend’s/family members have used and haven’t experienced any major issues with.

    FYI, many of these reviews are also written by competitors just something to consider.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    I would venture to say that Amazon is one of the easiest programs to get discouraged in as you could easily sell an item for around or over $200 and only receive a $10 commission on it and then never be paid as the commission fell below the threshold depending on your payment method. Its excellent if you can move alot of products on a regular basis and don’t get discouraged but many/most will end up quitting in disgust because of sales that are few and far between and not worth it in terms of compensation.
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    • Profile picture of the author robert_aus
      As with anything if you work smart and focused you can make money with Amazon. I have not done much myself but I do know someone personally that makes a nice living from her commissions coming from Amazon.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe2
        If we are building review type sites to sell Amazon products, has anyone found a way to build a list at the same time. I personally have racked what bit of brain I have but have not been able to come up with an answer.
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by Joe2 View Post

          If we are building review type sites to sell Amazon products, has anyone found a way to build a list at the same time. I personally have racked what bit of brain I have but have not been able to come up with an answer.
          Yes I do it and it works but not for all niches.

          Let's say you have a site that promotes guitars. You can go to Google and search for guitar lessons plr.

          This will bring up a list of PLR ebooks you can buy for a few bucks and then give away on your site for free.

          Make sure to hook an autoresponder series up to it and promote Guitar course on Clickbank from time to time.

          Hope that helps,

          Jan
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe2
            Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

            Yes I do it and it works but not for all niches.

            Let's say you have a site that promotes guitars. You can go to Google and search for guitar lessons plr.

            This will bring up a list of PLR ebooks you can buy for a few bucks and then give away on your site for free.

            Make sure to hook an autoresponder series up to it and promote Guitar course on Clickbank from time to time.

            Hope that helps,

            Jan
            I want to be sure I understand what you are saying correctly. If I have an Amazon Review site just for guitars, would I then have the PLRs somewhere in the sidebar? Would that not take the visitor away from my site and also from any Amazon product they were considering buying and therefore losing me my commission, or is this a kind of stand-off between selling a product and building a list.

            Sorry if I'm being a bit dense about this.
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by Joe2 View Post

              I want to be sure I understand what you are saying correctly. If I have an Amazon Review site just for guitars, would I then have the PLRs somewhere in the sidebar? Would that not take the visitor away from my site and also from any Amazon product they were considering buying and therefore losing me my commission, or is this a kind of stand-off between selling a product and building a list.

              Sorry if I'm being a bit dense about this.
              The "how to play" plr would be the bribe for joining the list. Any further promotions (CB courses, etc.) would be via emails to the list. You can also tack on promos for things like instrumental guitar CDs (for improving one's technique), accessories, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author HaydenR
    Yes. I am personally doing well with Amazon so it's definitely worth going into.
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