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Allintitle: ?

by tszone
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what is a good target number?
#allintitle
  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    Dude you really need to ask better questions.

    I SUSPECT you are trying to ask what is a good number to tell if competition is reasonably low or not.

    Typical answer is 10,000.
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    • Profile picture of the author tszone
      Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

      Dude you really need to ask better questions.

      I SUSPECT you are trying to ask what is a good number to tell if competition is reasonably low or not.

      Typical answer is 10,000.

      thank you thats what i was looking for
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    The simple fact of the matter is that these statistics cast very little (if any) light over your potential to rank well for a particular keyword phrase.

    You might only have 100 "competitors", but if all 10 positions on Page 1 of Google's SERPs are high-PR, with masses of powerful, relevant backlinks, and are situated on long-established, highly-authoritative websites, you won't stand a chance in hell of unseating them any time soon (if ever).

    Conversely, you might find yourself with 10,000,000 competing pages for another keyword phrase, with particularly weak, easily-replaceable pages filling Google's first-page positions; with minimal effort, you could be there in a flash.

    All that really matters, in most cases, is the strength of competition on the first page of Google (and other search-engines), for if you can't get there you may as well not be anywhere.

    Analyse the SEO strength - not the number - of competitors' pages/sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnvint
      If you ask me checking for competition in "allintitle" or even "phrase match" really means nothing. It's the pages that appear in "broad match" that you are competing with because that is how people doing a search are going to type in their phrase.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Michael is right.

        Would you rather compete against 5,000,000 sites of which the top 5 include weak directory articles (it happens), or against 5,000 sites of which the top 5 are age-old authority sites with a million backlinks each?

        Quantity of competition is meaningless.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Quantity of competition is meaningless.
          I disagree (must be the first time ever Alexa )

          I have ALWAYS found it very easy to rank using the ALLINTITLE method. Infact, i base the majority of my keyword analysis upon it. Yes SEOC is very important, BUT -- always start your analysis using ALLINTITLE.

          The figures I use as a general rule of thumb, especialy for ALLINTITLE is anything LESS than 1,500.

          Anything over 2,000 usually takes a while, and anything over 3,000+ (unless I really want to rank for a particular keyword) I dont waste my time with.

          So in summary, you want

          ESPM - More than at least 1,900
          SEOCT - Less than 1,500 - anything under 500 is a definite

          That, tied in with your overall analysis of the SEOC, which typically is a "look for any signs of weakness" ie - no DA, low BL count, low PR etc.

          If you can afford it, get yourself a copy of Market Samurai, learn how to use it well, and you will see better ranking results. I highly recommend it.
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          • Profile picture of the author tszone
            Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

            I disagree (must be the first time ever Alexa )

            I have ALWAYS found it very easy to rank using the ALLINTITLE method. Infact, i base the majority of my keyword analysis upon it. Yes SEOC is very important, BUT -- always start your analysis using ALLINTITLE.

            The figures I use as a general rule of thumb, especialy for ALLINTITLE is anything LESS than 1,500.

            Anything over 2,000 usually takes a while, and anything over 3,000+ (unless I really want to rank for a particular keyword) I dont waste my time with.

            So in summary, you want




















































            ESPM - More than at least 1,900
            SEOCT - Less than 1,500 - anything under 500 is a definite

            That, tied in with your overall analysis of the SEOC, which typically is a "look for any signs of weakness" ie - no DA, low BL count, low PR etc.

            If you can afford it, get yourself a copy of Market Samurai, learn how to use it well, and you will see better ranking results. I highly recommend it.


            thank you. I have allintittle: 290, 2900 exact match local 3900 global and 1.23 cpc. also i have a long keyword exact domain. should i o for it.
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            • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
              Originally Posted by tszone View Post

              thank you. I have allintittle: 290, 2900 exact match local 3900 global and 1.23 cpc. also i have a long keyword exact domain. should i o for it.
              ESPM - 3900
              SEOCT - 290

              Those figures give me a yes, however, as said, you STILL need to assess first page SOC.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe118
    For the 1001th time, the only competition that matters is those sites that appear on the first page of results when you search for the term w/o any special operators. Those are the ones you need to figure out how to outrank.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

      For the 1001th time.
      Sorry dude, I didnt quite get that
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  • Profile picture of the author peetred
    I only like to pick main keywords that have 100 results or less when searching intitle AND inanchor. Example:

    intitle:"keyword" inanchor:"keyword"

    I would search exactly like that (both at the same time.) Obviously, replace "keyword" with your keyword. If you do your SEO optimization correctly, you can easily rank in the top ten of google if there are 100 sites or less with this specific search.
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by peetred View Post

      I only like to pick main keywords that have 100 results or less when searching intitle AND inanchor. Example:

      intitle:"keyword" inanchor:"keyword"

      I would search exactly like that (both at the same time.) Obviously, replace "keyword" with your keyword. If you do your SEO optimization correctly, you can easily rank in the top ten of google if there are 100 sites or less with this specific search.
      What the hell is the point of going after keywords with numbers like that? Are you just looking to see yourself at the top of the G listings, or are you in this to make some money?

      Many years ago, when I was a much younger boy, and learning the mail order business in the days prior to internet, I learned that you advertise where your competition advertises. The more advertising, the more business there is to be got. If your competition isn't advertising, then there are obviously no customers there.

      Same with internet competition. Unless others are going after those keywords, there probably isn't enough business to make it worth while.

      So I say, don't waste your time going after low competition keywords. Go after the ones that have large competition numbers and do your back linking so you can rank and get traffic. Because it takes traffic to make money. And there isn't any traffic if the competition is 100 or less.
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