You Come Here...Look At The List Of Threads...And You're Overwhelmed...Here's Solution

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Okay newbies, listen up. This may be the best advice that you've heard in
a long time, even from me.

One of the things I have been trying to wrap my head around is why new
people have so much trouble getting anything done.

I realized, after a lot of hair pulling, that the number 1 reason is that they
are presented with too much info in too short a time. It's not just info
overload, because the truth is, they don't even have the info in their head
yet. It's that they don't know which thread to open first.

"Oooh, this looks good...I'll open this one".

They read it, have barely absorbed it, let alone really learned anything from
it when suddenly they close up the thread and see another eye catching
wonder...

"Ooooh, this looks even BETTER. I gotta read this one."

And so it continues into a never ending spiral until at the end of the day
they have all these little bits and pieces from all these many excellent
(and some not so excellent threads) and they don't know where to begin.

And that's if they've even remembered ANYTHING they've read.

Tell me I'm wrong. You know it's true. There is so much here that you're
on the verge of having a seizure from all the overload.

Okay...STOP THE MADNESS.

This is what you do AND it works.

Step 1 - Before you even come here for the day, write down on a piece
of paper what you want to learn today. Have a definite game plan for
what you want to accomplish here. Do NOT deviate from it no matter
what.

Step 2 - Go to the search function and look for what it is you want to
learn. See if there is an existing thread or threads. Read them first, if
there are any. If there are, take notes from the thread of just print it
to a PDF. There is a feature that allows you to do this. I just don't
remember what it is. Maybe somebody can chime in here.

Step 3 - If the stuff your looking for doesn't come up start your own
thread on the topic and ask your questions
. After the thread has run
its course and you've gotten all the answers you're going to get, save it
to a PDF.

Step 4 - Leave the forum Do not go looking for other stuff. Take what
you learned that day, read it, study it, use it. Don't come back until you've
accomplished what you wanted to accomplish with the info.

The key to making this work is knowing what you want to know in
advance and making it as specific as possible.

Asking questions like, "How can I make money online" are about as
worthless as asking Superman how you can fly too. The question is too
broad, too general and the answers you get, because they are so varied,
will only lead to that same info overload.

In other words, learn to discipline your thought process to a specific
goal and action.

That's how you'll get the most out of this gold mine called the Warrior Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author indexphp
    Steven, that's the problem with forums. Everybody thinks they are an expert. And everybody is too nice (in this forum at least) to give anybody a real kick in the ass. To me, it seems like this forum is filled mostly with newbies who are impersonating guru's.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Garrett Aren View Post

      Steven, that's the problem with forums. Everybody thinks they are an expert. And everybody is too nice (in this forum at least) to give anybody a real kick in the ass. To me, it seems like this forum is filled mostly with newbies who are impersonating guru's.
      Garrett, that may be true, but there have been some excellent threads
      here on a number of topics started by people like Paul Myers, Chris Rempel,
      Andy Henry, John Taylor and Big Mike, just to name a few. These people are
      in no way impersonators.

      Yes, I know, a newbie has no way of knowing this, and I understand, which
      is why I really think we should have a "trusted warriors" designation based
      on years service, contribution to the community and whatever other
      factors you want to include, have Allen himself be the sole determining
      agent and this way, newbies will have people they know they can trust.

      Yes, I already know the danger of doing this. Anybody can suddenly one
      day go insane and somebody Allen designated as trusted runs off with
      everybody's money and Allen gets sued. Yes, I know, there are problems
      when you publicly endorse somebody, but there has to be a way for newbs
      to know who they can trust for advice.

      Anyway, it's probably a bad idea so forget I said it.
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      • Profile picture of the author indexphp
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Garrett, that may be true, but there have been some excellent threads
        here on a number of topics started by people like Paul Myers, Chris Rempel,
        Andy Henry, John Taylor and Big Mike, just to name a few. These people are
        in no way impersonators.

        Yes, I know, a newbie has no way of knowing this, and I understand, which
        is why I really think we should have a "trusted warriors" designation based
        on years service, contribution to the community and whatever other
        factors you want to include, have Allen himself be the sole determining
        agent and this way, newbies will have people they know they can trust.

        Yes, I already know the danger of doing this. Anybody can suddenly one
        day go insane and somebody Allen designated as trusted runs off with
        everybody's money and Allen gets sued. Yes, I know, there are problems
        when you publicly endorse somebody, but there has to be a way for newbs
        to know who they can trust for advice.

        Anyway, it's probably a bad idea so forget I said it.
        Oh, I agree Steven. But people like that (and threads like that) are few are far between it seems. I see people opening threads about how they are ranking #1 in Google for obscure keywords and next thing you know, they are announcing it to the world and spreading this misinformation to others. Ironically, it is these people who are usually giving advice.

        This one guy said something along the lines of ...."Does anybody know where "GTD tutorials are?"

        I responded, what the heck are GTD tutorials?!? I then told him that he was ranking #1 in Google for "gtd tutorials" (I told you it was obscure). Next thing I know, it is some "technique."

        Anyways, I agree with what you are saying. People come here to "learn IM" (and while there are some great threads), alot of them are pure garbage.

        Like Chris Rempel (the man) said... "A Bad Word that Begins with F"
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonvanorden
    This advice is incredibly valuable. Information overload is dangerous.

    I try to apply this principle to everything when it comes to the consumption of info whether it be from email newsletters, blogs, forums or whatever.

    I consume info that I know I need now and have will act on right away. There is an unending supply shiny objects out there. They distract you in forever if you aren't deliberate about your information consumption.

    I even apply this to the consumption of news and other media. During the elections it was easy to endlessly watch news. With the economy talk it's the same thing. I only go to news sources to get very specific info that I know I need to in order to move forward on deliberate action, otherwise I go into "reaction" mode instead of "action" mode.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveweber
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


    Asking questions like, "How can I make money online" are about as
    worthless as asking Superman how you can fly too. The question is too
    broad,
    Right On!! I've always said, "Show me 100 successful marketers and I will show you 100 different twists on making money"
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Gallivan
    Hi Steven

    The key word you used is discipline! - well one of them.

    There's times you can come here looking for something specific and because you are learning a few different things at the same time other posts catch your eye and that's where the problem can escalate. However, all topics are equally relevant.

    What I tend to do, instead of coverting a thread to PDF, is to open notepad and put a title, for example Article Writing Tips and Info from WF then I will copy and paste just the relevant info and the posters name.

    I'd do a similar one for Resource box tips and another for say, List of article directories. Then I'd create a folder for Warrior Forum and put all these notepad files in it so it keeps them all organised as separate topics in one folder.

    The discipline and organisation trains your thought processes too and I found it helpful when I first started out.

    Mary
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  • Profile picture of the author lazavas
    when steven speaks listen............
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  • Profile picture of the author freelikehell
    A tool called PrimoPDF can help you print PDF's as OP mentioned.
    Here is the link to the free version:

    Create PDF Documents Free. View, Convert, Annotate and Edit PDF - PrimoPDF by Nitro PDF Software
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    • Profile picture of the author angela99
      Great advice, Steven.

      Here are some things to consider before you use Steven's great advice, if you have trouble focusing:

      1. COMMIT to making money via IM. Just decide that you will, that's all it takes.

      2. Schedule your IM activities into your day, just as you schedule everything else.

      3. Decide what you'll sell. Affiliate products? Your own product? A service?

      4. Create a plan (any plan). You don't have to know whether the plan will work, or anything much at all. Your plan will evolve. Just decide on a goal ("I will sell affiliate products") and create a plan.

      Viz:

      a) Choose an affiliate product
      b) Study this product and its audience.
      c) Decide on a marketing method -- article marketing or PPC, or __?

      Then follow Steven's advice. :-)

      Cheers

      Angela
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  • Profile picture of the author zeppb
    Great post Steven. I actually do this myself. There's so many posts that have already been made so there's not much point in making a new one on top of the new ones being made everyday. So I just use the search button....a lot.. For anything very specific I use the show posts option. It helps out a lot and more newbies should use it. *Yes I'm a newbie to*
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  • Wow! Steve just described...ME! I'm like a case study, I guess. I just found this forum. Prior to that, I had a little success writing and marketing. Now, I have learned so much, I dont know how to use it...What a wierd statement.

    For me, I have a plan based on what I have learned here. But, I am afraid to implement it out of fear of failure. What if I pick the wrong niche? What if I write a hundred articles and get no slaes? What if I cant get traffic? Then, how do I explain all this time away from my wife, as I am doing this while working full time.

    Anyway, great post.
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  • Profile picture of the author prestige00
    You are so right Steve. I think the biggest failure for us warriors is not having a game plan beforehand. Not knowing exactly what you are looking for or a goal in mind is what sets people apart to accomplishing different tasks and without going out and doing those little tasks makes the whole picture more difficult than it already is and just overwhelming and confusing which sets us back on taking action.

    This is an awesome post by you Steve and is relevant to everyone on this forum.

    "Find answers to specific questions to benefit your goal rather than finding more questions to be answered".
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