Article Marketers: Will You One Day Be Seen as a Criminal?

by tpw
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Put your hopeful pen name in quotes and run it through Google before you use it on your articles.

After a time, your pen name may pick up an audience of followers...

When this happens, some people may put the pen name into Google to find other articles written by this "person"....

The last thing you want to happen is to have your prospects finding that your "pen name" is wanted for crimes in ten states.... Or that he/she is a crook, stealing people's money with his/her latest internet scam...

LOL

Seriously, check Google for any pen name you choose before using it...

Better safe than sorry...
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    You don't use your real name?
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Put your hopeful pen name in quotes and run it through Google before you use it on your articles.

    After a time, your pen name may pick up an audience of followers...

    When this happens, some people may put the pen name into Google to find other articles written by this "person"....

    The last thing you want to happen is to have your prospects finding that your "pen name" is wanted for crimes in ten states.... Or that he/she is a crook, stealing people's money with his/her latest internet scam...

    LOL

    Seriously, check Google for any pen name you choose before using it...

    Better safe than sorry...
    Ok, let's say the pen name you choose is the same as a wanted terrorists name.

    What exactly is the worst that could possibly happen? More than likely, not much.

    At worst, the FBI looks you up, checks description against the description they have on file for the perp in question, figures out they don't match, then leaves you alone.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but law enforcement does not send in the SWAT team to nab you based on an internet search and name match. You need to match up just a tad more than that to the perp in question before they even think about going to that extreme.

    Unless you're an exact match in areas like height, weight, skin color, and eye color, nobody is going to bother you.

    But let's say you do get picked up. You still have to go through an extradition hearing in your state before you go anywhere. The odds of it going beyond that are astronomical (you should easily prove innocence then and there)...plus now you have grounds to sue for false arrest.

    Want to arrest me because someone perp uses the same name? Feel free to, and make my day.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by AFI View Post

      You don't use your real name?

      I do use my own name, AND I use a couple dozen pen names.

      I started doing so one time when I wrote an article about American History -- one of my favorite topics to write, not that anyone would know.

      I wrote two articles on the subject in my own name, and I started getting nasty letters from people about how I was "wasting their time."

      They said they read me, because I make some very insightful observations about online marketing. But this history garbage is not what they want to have to read. LOL

      I took the point.

      And since that time, all articles that talk about non-marketing topics get published under a pen name.

      I write under more than two dozen pen names, on more than a dozen niche topics.



      Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

      Ok, let's say the pen name you choose is the same as a wanted terrorists name.

      What exactly is the worst that could possibly happen? More than likely, not much.

      At worst, the FBI looks you up, checks description against the description they have on file for the perp in question, figures out they don't match, then leaves you alone.

      You miss my point.

      I am not talking about law enforcement in this post.

      I am talking about what your audience thinks you are or are not.

      I have received dozens of emails from one person concerning one of my clients, about how they are going to trash my reputation if I don't stop representing this crook.

      I talked to my client about the deal, and he was very apologetic.

      IT IS A CASE OF MISTAKEN IDENTITY. My client shares a name with a fellow who was convicted in New Jersey of fraud. My client owns a business in Florida and has never lived in New Jersey.

      The cops are smart enough to know these two guys are different people.

      But people on the Internet are not always as smart.

      This woman has been chasing my client around on the Internet for years, even building websites that try to make him into the NJ person.

      Why? Who knows what motivates people to do what they do....

      Like I said, it is not about law enforcement thinking you are a crook. It is about Joe Schmoe on the Internet, who had been respecting your work, but turning on you because they think you are that crook that they read about, who shares nothing with you but a name.



      p.s. It almost happened to me the other day.

      Google Bill Platt. You will find a blog post about how "Bill Platt is a racist ass-hat".

      Yes, the blog post is about some guy who shares a name with me.

      And the person I was talking to on the phone thought it was about me, until she opened the post and saw it was about the head of the Ohio Republican Party.
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        I do use my own name, AND I use a couple dozen pen names.

        I started doing so one time when I wrote an article about American History -- one of my favorite topics to write, not that anyone would know.

        I wrote two articles on the subject in my own name, and I started getting nasty letters from people about how I was "wasting their time."

        They said they read me, because I make some very insightful observations about online marketing. But this history garbage is not what they want to have to read. LOL

        I took the point.

        And since that time, all articles that talk about non-marketing topics get published under a pen name.

        I write under more than two dozen pen names, on more than a dozen niche topics.






        You miss my point.

        I am not talking about law enforcement in this post.

        I am talking about what your audience thinks you are or are not.

        I have received dozens of emails from one person concerning one of my clients, about how they are going to trash my reputation if I don't stop representing this crook.

        I talked to my client about the deal, and he was very apologetic.

        IT IS A CASE OF MISTAKEN IDENTITY. My client shares a name with a fellow who was convicted in New Jersey of fraud. My client owns a business in Florida and has never lived in New Jersey.

        The cops are smart enough to know these two guys are different people.

        But people on the Internet are not always as smart.

        This woman has been chasing my client around on the Internet for years, even building websites that try to make him into the NJ person.

        Why? Who knows what motivates people to do what they do....

        Like I said, it is not about law enforcement thinking you are a crook. It is about Joe Schmoe on the Internet, who had been respecting your work, but turning on you because they think you are that crook that they read about, who shares nothing with you but a name.



        p.s. It almost happened to me the other day.

        Google Bill Platt. You will find a blog post about how "Bill Platt is a racist ass-hat".

        Yes, the blog post is about some guy who shares a name with me.

        And the person I was talking to on the phone thought it was about me, until she opened the post and saw it was about the head of the Ohio Republican Party.
        Thanks for the clarification.

        Nothing personal, but if people are too stupid to figure out it's possible for two people to have the same name, maybe they should get off the internet?

        I put up with a lot, but that kind of common sense is where I draw the line.

        Heck, that's possible to have happen with your real name, just ask Willie Crawford and Paul Myers (both of whom have internet scammers with the same name). Should they change their names too, just to be on the safe side?

        Really, where do you draw the line on this?

        I don't hate you, I just think this is just something everybody should have figured out by the time they were 5 years old.

        There has to be some minimum of common sense in this world, or we all would go insane don't you think?
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        • Profile picture of the author givejonadollar
          Fear not fellow warriors.

          There are so many laws out there nowadays that EVERYONE is a criminal of some sort.

          If they want to get you for something, they will. If you are relatively honest, you will probably be ok however.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

          Thanks for the clarification.

          Nothing personal, but if people are too stupid to figure out it's possible for two people to have the same name, maybe they should get off the internet?

          I put up with a lot, but that kind of common sense is where I draw the line.

          Heck, that's possible to have happen with your real name, just ask Willie Crawford and Paul Myers (both of whom have internet scammers with the same name). Should they change their names too, just to be on the safe side?

          Really, where do you draw the line on this?

          I don't hate you, I just think this is just something everybody should have figured out by the time they were 5 years old.

          There has to be some minimum of common sense in this world, or we all would go insane don't you think?

          Expecting people to have common sense?

          LOL

          I used to do that too... But after years of seeing people who don't have any online, I have since realized how Utopian that concept really is...

          Willie and Paul should not change their names because someone who shares a name with them is a scammer. I share a name with a few Bill Platt's who are an embarrassment to me, and I am not going to change my name either.

          All I am suggesting is that an ounce of prevention is a lot easier and less time-consuming than a pound of cure.

          We are given the name our parents gave us. I have known some people to get around perceived problems such as these by using their middle initial with articles to get around this potential problem.

          Pen names are generally made up on the fly, and pen names will seldom have a bigger footprint than the articles that they represent. For example, none of my pen names have any social media profiles to distinguish them from others.

          People like Willie, Paul and I have such a large online footprint that we can honestly be distinguished easily from the criminal elements. And if we were really concerned about it, we could bury that other person's criminal record deep in the search results.

          But with a pen name, it only takes a few minutes to check to make sure your pen name will not be competing for Google rankings with child molesters, murderers and thieves.

          I just figure it is better for my pen names to see who my pen name will be competing with in the search results, simply because it could save some hassle down the road.

          A friend of mine grabbed a pen name out of the air the other day for chat. She logged in as Jenna Whalen, and I had to ask when she logged in if she knew Jill Whalen. She had no idea who I was talking about.

          I do have common sense, and I had asked in case it was Jill trying to fly under the radar.
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  • Profile picture of the author flavius333
    well.. it's obvious that you're right..

    but I can't help wondering, since we're talking about "pen names" here.. how legal is this, really ? I mean.. using a pen name; you sell eBooks in that name, sign articles and create accounts in that name.. how does this rapport to the law ? I've had this dilemma for quite a while and if I don't get it answered in this thread, I may as well start a thread of my own..

    p.s. I use my own name usually..
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by flavius333 View Post

      well.. it's obvious that you're right..

      but I can't help wondering, since we're talking about "pen names" here.. how legal is this, really ? I mean.. using a pen name; you sell eBooks in that name, sign articles and create accounts in that name.. how does this rapport to the law ? I've had this dilemma for quite a while and if I don't get it answered in this thread, I may as well start a thread of my own..

      p.s. I use my own name usually..
      If it wasn't legal, then 'Betty Crocker' would have been locked up ages ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author ripsnorta2
      Originally Posted by flavius333 View Post

      well.. it's obvious that you're right..

      but I can't help wondering, since we're talking about "pen names" here.. how legal is this, really ? I mean.. using a pen name; you sell eBooks in that name, sign articles and create accounts in that name.. how does this rapport to the law ? I've had this dilemma for quite a while and if I don't get it answered in this thread, I may as well start a thread of my own..

      p.s. I use my own name usually..
      You should probably have a chat to Mr. Stephen King who has penned several stories under the name Richard Bachman. While you're at it, check out the many actors who act under different names (although some have legally changed their name.)

      Even Benjamin Franklin used a false name, Silence Dogood, in order to get some of his work published.

      It's a long and glorious tradition.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Isn't it past your bedtime in OK bill?

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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    And that's why I prefer to use a pen name!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    I guess I should stop using Charles Manson as my pen name. Darn it took me two days to come up with a pen name I liked!!! UGGG!
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      I guess I should stop using Charles Manson as my pen name. Darn it took me two days to come up with a pen name I liked!!! UGGG!

      LOL Charles....
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      I guess I should stop using Charles Manson as my pen name. Darn it took me two days to come up with a pen name I liked!!! UGGG!
      Rus, surely you don't want to receive death threat messages and calls? LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Onash
    What if you are indeed a rotten apple....and are just trying to get legit by posting some good stuff using your own name ?
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Bill, great advice. After all, how much time would it take to investigate and check out the pen name that you intend on using?

    A few minutes of your time now could save you countless hours of heartache and grief down the road. In my opinion, it'd be completely nonsensical not to spend a few minutes checking for this, and be secure in the knowledge that you're safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rough Outline
    My pen name is Sue Denolm.

    10 points for the clever people who get it
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Rough Outline View Post

      My pen name is Sue Denolm.

      10 points for the clever people who get it

      -10 points for Bill.

      I am generally clever, but in this case, clueless...
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        -10 points for Bill.

        I am generally clever, but in this case, clueless...
        Here ya go...

        Pseudonym...

        You owe me 10 points.

        ~Bill
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

          Here ya go...

          Pseudonym...

          You owe me 10 points.

          ~Bill

          I sat there looking at your response a good 45 seconds before my brain came on....

          Thanks....

          And yes, I owe you ten points...
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    Dude, that's why you make pen names nobody else has.

    Like me. This isn't even my real name

    @Farnham I didn't get it either. -10 @me
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    I use a neat little tool based on US Census data to generate pen names. It randomly gives you mix-and-match first and last names. But...

    I always run them through Google first. Not out of fear of being confused for a criminal, or other unsavory character, but out of a fear of accidentally using an already established author's name.

    Sometimes it takes a few tries to find just the right name, but it's worth taking that extra step.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      I use a neat little tool based on US Census data to generate pen names. It randomly gives you mix-and-match first and last names. But...

      I always run them through Google first. Not out of fear of being confused for a criminal, or other unsavory character, but out of a fear of accidentally using an already established author's name.

      Sometimes it takes a few tries to find just the right name, but it's worth taking that extra step.

      All the best,
      Michael

      The established author's name is another good reason to check pen names before use.

      I actually built a quick dirty tool for my own use that pulls from +16k last names from Roots Web and the top 1000 male and female first names from the last 80 years according to the Social Security Administration.

      I have those names tossed into a database, and I select sex and a last name, and the software kicks out a list of names for me to check.

      It pre-loads with hot links to Google for the specific name with and without quotes around it.

      Then I click each link in the search for a pen name I like.

      It really streamlines the process for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        I actually built a quick dirty tool for my own use that pulls from +16k last names from Roots Web and the top 1000 male and female first names from the last 80 years according to the Social Security Administration.
        I make it real simple. If I need a man's name for the niche I use Donny Trump, if I need a woman's name I use Maggie Stewart. I'm in one of those niches where pays to have a respectable name for marketing purposes.

        ~Bill

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  • Profile picture of the author Josh MacDonald
    This is a joke. Heaven forbid you to take risks in life. :S
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  • Profile picture of the author RaptorGabe
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow never considered that angle how do you come up with these ideas HAHAHAHAH
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  • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
    I always use my real name unless I am ghost writing.

    What do you guys use for pen names? Bill Smith or "tenderkisses69"???
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by JonWebContent View Post

      I always use my real name unless I am ghost writing.

      What do you guys use for pen names? Bill Smith or "tenderkisses69"???
      So...

      Is "Web" your middle name, or part of your last name, as in Mr. WebContent?

      LOL

      (Sorry couldn't resist)

      - - - - - - - - - -


      The tool I use is at (I'm not affiliated with them)...

      Random Name Generator

      You can select male or female, how many names you want returned, and how obscure you want them to be.

      All the best,
      Gerald Halford, or...
      Winford Aponta, or...
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    Looks like I'm changing my name to Armand Starliper!
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  • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
    Actually, if I was going to use a pen name, I think I would use a funny name such as "Mike Oxlong".
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    One of my pen names I have used is Aliza Saylor.

    Someone chewed my ass for using such an obviously fake name.

    Aliza is the name of a friend.

    And Saylor is my sister's married name.

    So is it really an obvious fake name?
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      One of my pen names I have used is Aliza Saylor.

      Someone chewed my ass for using such an obviously fake name.

      Aliza is the name of a friend.

      And Saylor is my sister's married name.

      So is it really an obvious fake name?
      Bill, I could be wrong, but I don't think it's the last name Saylor that's causing people to accuse you of using a fake name. Aliza seems rather unusual to me, and it's certainly not a common name that you see everyday, and that is what's probably behind the accusation.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        Bill, I could be wrong, but I don't think it's the last name Saylor that's causing people to accuse you of using a fake name. Aliza seems rather unusual to me, and it's certainly not a common name that you see everyday, and that is what's probably behind the accusation.

        You may be right... It could have also been that she was named Aliza by a couple of pot-smoking hippies...

        And the person making the accusation has never been around a hippie before ever...
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          You may be right... It could have also been that she was named Aliza by a couple of pot-smoking hippies...

          And the person making the accusation has never been around a hippie before ever...
          Well, I think all these fairly unusual names are born out of a desire to be different and unique. It's a pain to get these names right especially on paper, but then again pot-smoking hippies probably don't like writing all that much...lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author smartlazy
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          How about if we use the Fake Name Generator?

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  • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
    That doesn't sound too phony. I don't think I would assume someone with that name is using a phony name.

    People see things differently, however.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    Good thing I picked a really unique name, "John Smith"
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    • Profile picture of the author Efrain Hernandez
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      Good thing I picked a really unique name, "John Smith"
      You should have chosen a more unique name like "John Doe".
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    • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      Good thing I picked a really unique name, "John Smith"
      I got a good friend named John Smith (his real name) and if only I had a nickel for every time I heard someone tell him they don't believe that's his real name........!
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by JonWebContent View Post

        I got a good friend named John Smith (his real name) and if only I had a nickel for every time I heard someone tell him they don't believe that's his real name........!

        LOL

        My best friend goes by B.J.

        His parents were cruel enough to name him Babe John...

        A lady friend we had knew him by Babe, and called him that every time she saw him in public.

        One day, she was with her new biker boyfriend, and she says, "Hi Babe..."

        Her boyfriend immediately went into fight mode, because his woman called another man, "Babe"...

        His girlfriend jumped in the middle to calm her boyfriend down...

        And he refused to calm down until B.J. pulled out his drivers' license to prove that his real name was "Babe"...
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by JonWebContent View Post

        I got a good friend named John Smith (his real name) and if only I had a nickel for every time I heard someone tell him they don't believe that's his real name........!
        Am I missing something here? That's one of the most popular names.

        One of the old labour leaders here was called that, crikey, most people are called that.

        Much more believable than Ben Dover.

        Or Ivor Biggun.
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  • Profile picture of the author tgglenn
    Glad to see people in a playful mood!!

    Top 10 Pen Names:

    10.Verd Schmitz (German)

    9. Parra Graf (Swedish)

    8. Koppe Rider

    7. Art Ickles

    6. Bye Lyons

    5. Ree Prince

    4. I. Usa Quill

    3. Pensal Pusher

    2. Ledder Hedd

    AND THE NUMBER 1 PEN NAME........

    1. Gotta Spinnet!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author donhx
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Put your hopeful pen name in quotes and run it through Google before you use it on your articles.

    After a time, your pen name may pick up an audience of followers...

    When this happens, some people may put the pen name into Google to find other articles written by this "person"....

    The last thing you want to happen is to have your prospects finding that your "pen name" is wanted for crimes in ten states.... Or that he/she is a crook, stealing people's money with his/her latest internet scam...

    LOL

    Seriously, check Google for any pen name you choose before using it...

    Better safe than sorry...
    Who is to say the pen name you pick won't be used by some criminal with the same name in the future?

    The best thing to do is use the name of some criminal who has already been executed. No chance for a mix up there.
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    Good points!! This is why I think pen names should be carefully selected.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    Dammit. There goes my Bin Laden weight loss tips, and my Ted Bundy personal development profile.

    Back to square one. I think I'm gonna go with something safe this time. How does Ed Gein sound? Ya, that's it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      Dammit. There goes my Bin Laden weight loss tips, and my Ted Bundy personal development profile.

      Back to square one. I think I'm gonna go with something safe this time. How does Ed Gein sound? Ya, that's it.
      If that doesn't work, may I suggest Atilla Hitler Amin?

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  • Profile picture of the author LadyKida
    I haven't yet written enough articles to have a need for a pen name. (yep, total newbie over here) But I have always enjoyed RPG's and writing stories and as such have come up with dozen upon dozens of unique names. One of my favorites is "Siyana Aijozen", probably the one I will use when I get to that point. Anyway, my point is I find that taking common names and jumbling them up, or taking away or adding to names is a great way to come up with new names. However, if you don't want to be that creative, baby names sites are a great resource.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheHawk
    Using our real name is a much better than using a pen name and feel sorry about that
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    I'm thinking of using Ted Williams as a pen name.

    Should I go on?
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  • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
    Started out with a pen name. Didn't want my own name associated with things if they went bad. I used a pseudonym I used for a small radio station when I was young. Not all that common, but didn't show up as bad with a google search either.

    Gave up the pen name when I found my voice and determined what I wanted to do with online marketing. The only problem is that my real name probably has some negative connotation somewhere out there.

    When I was in college0 (late 60's early 70's,) I lived in an area of perhaps 40,000 people. There were three other guys with my name. One was a prof at the local junior college. One was quiet and I rarely heard about him. The last was a few years older than me and spent most of his time in jail on minor offenses like fighting in bars and taverns. It made it difficult for keeping a decent credit score, for one thing, and there were few months that went by that someone didn't comment about seeing my name in the arrests section of the local newspaper...

    Sometimes a pen name is easier. However, I just got tired of the pen name after a while.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by rickfrazier1 View Post

      The last was a few years older than me and spent most of his time in jail on minor offenses like fighting in bars and taverns. It made it difficult for keeping a decent credit score, for one thing, and there were few months that went by that someone didn't comment about seeing my name in the arrests section of the local newspaper...

      And some people insist that stuff does not happen...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Baker
    I never understood the need for pen names. Why not just use your real first name and the initial of your last name? So instead of signing of with your real name, for instance John Smith, just go with John S.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by mikescos View Post

      I never understood the need for pen names. Why not just use your real first name and the initial of your last name? So instead of signing of with your real name, for instance John Smith, just go with John S.

      Should I count the ways for you?

      I did outline several scenarios through this thread...

      Most publishers would not publish your article if you only signed off with a last initial. They seem to think if you are ashamed to use a last name, then they probably don't want to read your article...

      So give publishers what they need to read and publish your articles...

      1. Readers who expect that Bill Platt should only write about online business;

      2. When Bill Platt needs to write from a female perspective;

      3. When you write about subjects that are just fine, but some people might be squeamish about;

      4. When you are ghost writing for a customer;

      5. Women use pen names a lot, because there are a lot of freaky guys out there that may want to do them harm;

      6. Some women find that men are pigs, because they will not believe a woman capable of knowing what she knows;

      7. Did I say that sometimes Bill Platt writes articles about people who cheat, and some may be offended;

      8. Did I say that Bill Platt writes about dozens of topics;

      9. When Bill Platt wants to write an industry overview that describes his competitors too, using his own name with the article could cloud people's view of his objectivity;

      10. Sometimes Bill Platt will write an article that offers valuable information, but he doesn't feel that it quite lives up to his own high standards;

      11. Sometimes Bill Platt has two sites in the same niche, competing with each other, offering the same product at two price points... So he does not want to confuse his customers... For example, at one time, he offered ghost writing at two price points simultaneously, and right now, the Traffic Strategies report in his signature is sold at a lower price at the WF than on his own site;

      12. Bill Platt might be talking about truths so true that the people in the stories would be pissed if the story was told... A pen name will allow the story to be told, while protecting the identities of the guilty;

      LOL

      There are 12 solid reasons to consider using a pen name on your articles...
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      • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Should I count the ways for you?

        I did outline several scenarios through this thread...

        Most publishers would not publish your article if you only signed off with a last initial. They seem to think if you are ashamed to use a last name, then they probably don't want to read your article...

        So give publishers what they need to read and publish your articles...

        1. Readers who expect that Bill Platt should only write about online business;

        2. When Bill Platt needs to write from a female perspective;

        3. When you write about subjects that are just fine, but some people might be squeamish about;

        4. When you are ghost writing for a customer;

        5. Women use pen names a lot, because there are a lot of freaky guys out there that may want to do them harm;

        6. Some women find that men are pigs, because they will not believe a woman capable of knowing what she knows;

        7. Did I say that sometimes Bill Platt writes articles about people who cheat, and some may be offended;

        8. Did I say that Bill Platt writes about dozens of topics;

        9. When Bill Platt wants to write an industry overview that describes his competitors too, using his own name with the article could cloud people's view of his objectivity;

        10. Sometimes Bill Platt will write an article that offers valuable information, but he doesn't feel that it quite lives up to his own high standards;

        11. Sometimes Bill Platt has two sites in the same niche, competing with each other, offering the same product at two price points... So he does not want to confuse his customers... For example, at one time, he offered ghost writing at two price points simultaneously, and right now, the Traffic Strategies report in his signature is sold at a lower price at the WF than on his own site;

        12. Bill Platt might be talking about truths so true that the people in the stories would be pissed if the story was told... A pen name will allow the story to be told, while protecting the identities of the guilty;

        LOL

        There are 12 solid reasons to consider using a pen name on your articles...
        Hi Bill,

        I'm surprised on those who feel this as one of a kind analysis paralysis. I thought about it several years ago and still use more than a dozens pen names. You can not cautious enough on the 'net. Best so far.

        Take care,

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      • Profile picture of the author bluebay
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        6. Some women find that men are pigs, because they will not believe a woman capable of knowing what she knows;
        ...yes, I do have one male pen name for one of my niches, but not because I believe men are pigs, only because I feel this science-based niche audience may respond better to a male voice. Of course, I haven't tested it yet (male vs. female pen name in this niche).

        Also, gonna be off-topic here, but I can't help in commenting on your compelling headline for this thread, Bill.

        I'm really new at copywriting and great headlines always catch my eye.

        Your headline catches the curiosity of the reader by suggesting a bad scenario could happen. And of course, the only way of finding out how that 'bad thing' could be is to read your post.

        great work...this writer newbie is not worthy to be in your presence

        cheers,
        bluebay
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by bluebay View Post

          ...yes, I do have one male pen name for one of my niches, but not because I believe men are pigs, only because I feel this science-based niche audience may respond better to a male voice. Of course, I haven't tested it yet (male vs. female pen name in this niche).

          Also, gonna be off-topic here, but I can't help in commenting on your compelling headline for this thread, Bill.

          I'm really new at copywriting and great headlines always catch my eye.

          Your headline catches the curiosity of the reader by suggesting a bad scenario could happen. And of course, the only way of finding out how that 'bad thing' could be is to read your post.

          great work...this writer newbie is not worthy to be in your presence

          cheers,
          bluebay

          I have been hit and miss with titles over the years. Some are great, some stink.

          In the last year, I have been studying copy writing a bit more, with a lot of focus on headlines.

          An article never opened is one that is never read.

          Google "Headline Swipefiles" to find some really good stuff about writing good headlines / titles.

          I like testing headlines in the forums, because I can start seeing results in minutes instead of days.

          I know that most threads in the forum get fewer than 200 opens, so I use that as my baseline measure as to the value of a selected headline.

          But I never truly get excited until a thread accomplishes 1000 page views, as this one is very close to doing...
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          • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            I have been hit and miss with titles over the years. Some are great, some stink.

            In the last year, I have been studying copy writing a bit more, with a lot of focus on headlines.

            An article never opened is one that is never read.

            Google "Headline Swipefiles" to find some really good stuff about writing good headlines / titles.

            I like testing headlines in the forums, because I can start seeing results in minutes instead of days.

            I know that most threads in the forum get fewer than 200 opens, so I use that as my baseline measure as to the value of a selected headline.

            But I never truly get excited until a thread accomplishes 1000 page views, as this one is very close to doing...
            Bill,

            Your threads take a life of their own because they naturally become viral. And the main reason why it happens that way is because neither your real name nor your pen name is yet connected to a criminal.
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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post

              Bill,

              Your threads take a life of their own because they naturally become viral. And the main reason why it happens that way is because neither your real name nor your pen name is yet connected to a criminal.

              I promise you. I have had some dog threads that died a miserable death with fewer than 50 views.

              But on average, I do manage more winners than losers.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Hmm.... well now I'm kind of afraid to google my real name in case there is some other Lee Dobbins that has been running around doing unsavory deeds....
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    Never thought of that, great advice thanks.
    signed: J Stalin :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      The little town in Nebraska where I lived for awhile had two "John McCabes" - me, and the parish priest.

      Made for some pretty funny phone calls from drunks trying to reach the good padre and my wife answered the phone at 2:00 AM...:p

      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      Dammit. There goes my Bin Laden weight loss tips, and my Ted Bundy personal development profile.

      Back to square one. I think I'm gonna go with something safe this time. How does Ed Gein sound? Ya, that's it.
      Killed off my J.W. Gacy "How to Draw Clowns" product, too...

      Originally Posted by TheHawk View Post

      Using our real name is a much better than using a pen name and feel sorry about that
      So what's it like going through life with "The" as a first name?
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  • Profile picture of the author aandersen
    That's cool Bill, but you left one very important question unanswered:

    Does Bill Platt still broadcast for the OK State Cowboys?
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

      That's cool Bill, but you left one very important question unanswered:

      Does Bill Platt still broadcast for the OK State Cowboys?
      Dude, isn't that obvious?

      As far as I knew, he was the chief broadcaster.

      As for being a cowboy, where do you think the strikeing resemblence to "Brushy" Bill Roberts came from?

      This is no coincidence. I've been researching.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

      That's cool Bill, but you left one very important question unanswered:

      Does Bill Platt still broadcast for the OK State Cowboys?

      He passed on about one year before I moved to Stillwater.

      It would have been fun to finally meet him in person, as he has never been any relative of mine.

      Which in itself is kind of bizarre since there are few Platt's around anywhere, and in these parts, most of the Platt's are related to my dad's family.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarksWineClub
    Not something I would have though of....perhaps that makes it a good idea to use either very generic names, or names so complicated that they wouldn't otherwise exist!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Lenaghan
    I picked one of my pen names by taking the first name of someone I know and mixing it with the last name of someone else (I was drawing a blank at the time).

    Turns out there's a fairly well known poet with the same name that I more or less picked out of the air, and anybody who might search for my pen name in Google will never find my stuff because there's so much out there about the "real" guy :rolleyes:

    Now when I pick pen names, I try to come up with something that there are zero results for when I do an exact match search in Google. Maybe add a middle initial or something to make it unique. It makes it a lot easier to track your results, since you do an exact match search for the name and see what's out there.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by nichescape View Post

      I picked one of my pen names by taking the first name of someone I know and mixing it with the last name of someone else (I was drawing a blank at the time).

      Turns out there's a fairly well known poet with the same name that I more or less picked out of the air, and anybody who might search for my pen name in Google will never find my stuff because there's so much out there about the "real" guy :rolleyes:

      Now when I pick pen names, I try to come up with something that there are zero results for when I do an exact match search in Google. Maybe add a middle initial or something to make it unique. It makes it a lot easier to track your results, since you do an exact match search for the name and see what's out there.

      John

      Right on John. I seek out names with a Google-footprint of fewer than 100 results, but I often strive for even fewer.

      My first pen name picked out of the air turned out to be a name shared with a U.S. Senator and a Pro NBA player.

      Richard Bryan has 8.1 million search results... I bet you cannot find the articles I wrote under that name, unless I tell you how to find them.
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    Bill,

    Is there really any marketing strategy, offline/online, that does not have a demerit?

    I have been thinking but I have not thought of any.

    I think I need your help.
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