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Do many of you guys actually use clickbank? Im new to this (IM) and they seem to have a good variety of products and are mentioned quite alot however after singing up and having a look through most of the products on there seem dodgy...my question i guess is do the products sell?

To be honest if i were to get linked online top one of those landing pages (those long webpages describing the product giving a huge sales pitch which most of the time sounds cheesy and you cant even really be bothered to read till the end) I wouldnt really trust the website to buy something from it...is this just me or do these websites actually sell?

I just wanna know if its worth putting my time and effort into these products and if im not the only one who thinks this...

Thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author spesialis
    those long webpages describing the product giving a huge sales pitch which most of the time sounds cheesy and you cant even really be bothered to read till the end

    That's because you've involved in IM, for regular folks, they worked

    If not, the product owner's sure changed them long time ago (based on split testing)

    People here complained about pop up/under, but they worked, that's why you keep seeing them
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    • Profile picture of the author houstonb
      I agree they sure do work and at quite a high click thru rate. I started with bum marketing and sold several thousand dollars worth of products thru clickbank.

      Just look at the gravity of the product you are looking to sell and if it is high that means a lot of affilates are making money promoting that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by houstonb View Post

        Just look at the gravity of the product you are looking to sell and if it is high that means a lot of affilates are making money promoting that.
        It really doesn't mean that at all, I'm afraid.

        They might all be affiliates who have bought one copy each through their own affiliate-link and are barely selling the product or even intending to. (That often happens with products in the "IM-advice niche", in particular.)

        Or there might be a constant turnover of new affiliates each struggling for weeks to make 1 or 2 sales, while the resulting climbing gravity figure continues to attract in more and more affiliates with comparatively few sales being made.

        There isn't a correlation at all between the gravity figure and how well the product's selling.

        I promote a product with a gravity of about 5 which sells far more easily (converts much better), and sells far more copies collectively for the vendor, than another product (of the same vendor) which has a gravity of about 125. These examples aren't "rarities" or "anomalies": they're very common!
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        • Profile picture of the author REHughes
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          It really doesn't mean that at all, I'm afraid.

          They might all be affiliates who have bought one copy each through their own affiliate-link and are barely selling the product or even intending to. (That often happens with products in the "IM-advice niche", in particular.)

          Or there might be a constant turnover of new affiliates each struggling for weeks to make 1 or 2 sales, while the resulting climbing gravity figure continues to attract in more and more affiliates with comparatively few sales being made.

          There isn't a correlation at all between the gravity figure and how well the product's selling.

          I promote a product with a gravity of about 5 which sells far more easily (converts much better), and sells far more copies collectively for the vendor, than another product (of the same vendor) which has a gravity of about 125. These examples aren't "rarities" or "anomalies": they're very common!
          Alexa,
          I have never heard "gravity" explained quite like this. This opens my eyes to a somewhat better view in my product research.
          Think I may go back and look at a couple of products I shyed away from before simply because of low gravity.

          Thanks,
          Robert
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by REHughes View Post

            Alexa,
            I have never heard "gravity" explained quite like this. This opens my eyes to a somewhat better view in my product research.
            Think I may go back and look at a couple of products I shyed away from before simply because of low gravity.
            Hi Robert, thanks. This post gives some examples of "how gravity really works", if it helps, and in this post I've set out my own personal Clickbank product selection criteria (which may or may not be relevant to you!).
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            • Profile picture of the author REHughes
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Hi Robert, thanks. This post gives some examples of "how gravity really works", if it helps, and in this post I've set out my own personal Clickbank product selection criteria (which may or may not be relevant to you!).
              Hi, Alexa
              Thank YOU! I just read both of these posts and believe they will be VERY useful in the future.
              I am amazed (guess I shouldn't be) that I have NEVER seen product selection described in this manner in ANY course I have purchased.
              Guess it just goes to remind us that most products in the IM niche are designed to "Keep You Coming Back" for more, ya think? :rolleyes:
              Anyway, I hope you don't mind, but I actually stuck these in a notepad in my personal training folder for future reference. If that isn't ok, please let me know.

              Many Thanks Again,
              Robert
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by REHughes View Post

                Guess it just goes to remind us that most products in the IM niche are designed to "Keep You Coming Back" for more, ya think? :rolleyes:
                This is one way of looking at it. Mine is even "worse", I think: my skepchick view is that some of those "courses" are written by people who've found that it's much easier to make a living selling partially recycled courses about Clickbank to beginning marketers than it ever was for them to make a living as Clickbank affiliates, themselves.

                Oops, did I say that out loud? ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by cleanboy View Post

    most of the products on there seem dodgy
    I find that many "seem dodgy", myself. But there are 13,500 active products there, so that still leaves room for a few thousand good ones and a few hundred blindingly brilliant ones, doesn't it?

    Originally Posted by cleanboy View Post

    my question i guess is do the products sell?
    Some do; some don't - as can more or less be seen from Clickbank's figures.

    Originally Posted by cleanboy View Post

    is this just me
    No; certainly not. It's you and many other people, too. But that still leaves millions of people who it "isn't", you know?

    Originally Posted by cleanboy View Post

    I just wanna know if its worth putting my time and effort into these products
    Are you talking about buying them, or promoting them as an affiliate?

    If you meant buying them, bear in mind that Clickbank's a retailer. The vendors are many thousands of different people all using Clickbank's facilities to retail their products. There are good ones and bad ones. I think most of us would agree that there are quite a lot of bad ones, but that's partly because the "entry barriers" are so low, there's comparatively little quality control, and Clickbank isn't taking any financial risk by taking on new products.

    If you meant promoting them, yes, there are people earning 6-figure and 7-figure incomes selling them, but you certainly have to select wisely the ones you'd want to promote, which is an underrated and essential skill to acquire.
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    • Profile picture of the author RabadiB
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      • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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        To some people, CB rocks!

        To some other people, CB sucks!

        Hey, OP, life is business and every business involves risk.

        Apply discretion. Apply wisdom.

        Some people might fail to record success in a particular CB product yet some other person could record success in the same product.

        Interestingly, "rocks" and "sucks" are two words that have the same number of letters and rhymes with each other but they serve different purpose. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author YoichiSpeaks
    Clickbank is great in its transactions. Refund processing is phenomenally smooth. The products posted in the marketplace can be a hit or miss. You have to do the research and judge for yourself. If it looks cheesy and sketch, 99% it is. If it only pitches you dream avoid it. As for Clickbank, they are a great site to do business with.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    90% of my sales come from clickbank.

    I have 5 product.

    1 brings in maybe $80 a week.

    the other 4 combined bring in about 4k - 5k a month. Give or take.

    It is not about the merchant clickbank. It is all about traffic, your sales page and your sales funnel. Get these right and you will never have to work a day in your life again.

    It took me a few years, but I can say safely, that all my hard work now pays off big time.

    I do not blame clickbank like other people....if your sales are low, I blame my sales page, messages, AR messages, copywriting, funnels, prices, marketing overall.

    It is all about testing. I love it when people bag clickbank...that just means there is less competition for me and my niches.

    I love teh fact that people say clickbank sucks, although myself and my IM friends earn a heck of alot through cb. I am not showing off, I am merely using this to say that if your marketing is great, and you copy is too, and you are getting targeted traffic....then seriously why would people bother using clickbank to buy off you.

    Makes you wonder ey?
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    • Profile picture of the author Multimedianaire
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      90% of my sales come from clickbank.
      I also have a couple of products that I sell through Clickbank. One, which I sell exclusively through affiliates is not Internet Marketing related and makes me between 2-3 sales a week.

      I haven't updated the sales copy on this particular site for a number of years now - haven't touched anything at all, in fact I stopped actively promoting the site years ago and sales continue coming in each week on complete auto-pilot. These sales are made by owners of websites who are not internet marketers themselves and the ebook is purchased by people with really basic online skills.

      I get very few refunds for this product, but when I do, is mostly because the customers who purchased thought they were buying an actual physical product (even though the site highlights "electronic download only" warnings everywhere - I guess the ebook cover is just too realistic looking !)

      The point I am making here - as other members have pointed out - is that CB has a fantastic model for info product sellers and affiliates that works - I can vouch for it from first hand experience, both as a product seller and affiliate marketer.

      If you're driving traffic to a sales page for a CB product and affiliate sales aren't happening for you, then check to see if:

      - the visitors you are sending to the site are the right audience for the product,
      - the sales copy addresses your visitors' concerns (e.g. benefits, guarantees, secure download access notices, vendor contact details, etc.)
      - the information provided / sales copy on the landing page makes you want to buy the product yourself (you should buy the product if you're thinking of promoting it as an affiliate).

      I hope this helps you and good luck with your affiliate marketing efforts.

      Martin
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  • Profile picture of the author latomm
    I used to think it was some one or something that was giving me the bum's rush, but now I see that it has been me mostly all along. I don't accuse others of sabotaging my efforts. Clickbank has 1000s of products to sell and as a publisher you can sell your own products. I think they carry on an excellent service for all of us. Maybe you need some more effort with some of the products and learn ways of picking products that sell. Good Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    Yes clickbank is a very good source of income. There are lots of products out there. How study what is the best thing to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author fatboy
    As always, Alexa has some great posts and people should be very grateful that she takes the time to post such great information.

    I totally agree that a lot of the products on clickbank are from people that can not make money with affiliate marketing, so they write up a manual or rehash some old material and repackage it and then sell it as their own.

    A while ago I read a thread on a forum I think, please don't quote me on that, but I think it was a thread. Anyways it was called "Bull****ting your way to internet riches". It was really a great read. It is about promoting your product and yourself as being successful, even though you know nothing but what you have read and seen other people doing.

    I promote a couple of products from clickbank that do very well. The products that I promote actually do not have a high gravity, and I am not sure that I am not the only person in the world promoting them, but they are unique and work for me.

    All that being said...Here is my biggest tip for selling clickbank products.

    Go to the sales page, and try your hardest to step out of your Internet Marketing mindset. Now read through the sales page and ask yourself if you would purchase the product. If you would then it is a product that you should investigate more into promoting. If not then just bypass it and move on.

    Another tip, just as a side note, if I am promoting a clickbank product, I will set up my own review type website or my own website to send traffic to that will send them to the clickbank product. On that sales page I will monetize it with many other things also. A lot of the time, the product that you are offering will have to do with something that will bring in some good clicks from adsense, and or bring some sales from Amazon.

    To many times, I find websites that are set up for clickbank products that have one way to leave the website and that points to the clickbank product. If you give people every possible solution that they are looking for you have a higher chance in making money.

    Finally, make sure that you are building a list when you are driving traffic. You can offer a simple newsletter, or something for free. "The money is in the list" is a great quote that people really should live by.

    If you have a list of 1,000 people that you send a newsletter to, or have given a free product to, and you know what these people are looking for, you can always make more sales further on down the road.

    Good Luck with what you are working on and as always if you need any help with anything let me know.
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