Warriors, this is a must read! To your success!

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I see people on Warrior Forum as well as on other forums getting disgruntled and having no clue where to start with making money online. People come to these message boards and post about how they have tried EVERYTHING, but I for one know they have not.

I decided to create this thread to help everyone who is stuck in a rut in hopes of this giving them a foundation. Heck, some people even begin to develop a couple of these suggestions into a full blown business model by hiring others!

So check it out, these are my suggestions to those of you on a low or no budget for early 2011!
  • Article Writing: Yes, I know you hear this a lot, but there is a reason you're hearing about it so much! It works! Stop wasting money on tons of WSO's and reading different things and take action!
Example:
  1. The average rate charged for "average" content is $1-$1.50 per 100 words.
  2. The average article is 300 to 500 words
  3. Usually most article orders will consist of 2-5 articles
Formula: (avg rate per 100 words)x(total words/100)x(# of articles per order)

Now, lets use the averages I've listed above in this formula and see what your avg earnings will be off 1 order!

($1.00)x(300/100)x(2)= $6 per order for an article with 2nd language diction!


What Does This Mean For You?

1.) Brush up on your writing skills

2.) Come up with a decent aritcle turnaround (24-72 hours)

3.) Decide where to market yourself (affiliate forums, Odesk, Elance, free lance places)

4.) Give a couple free reviews to establish credibility and reputation

5.) Start writing, keep up with your guarantees, and offer specials everyonce once in awhile

6.) Consider hiring writers and develop a team to begin cranking out even more content and turn it into a business!

getting 4 orders a day for 6 dollars (keep in mind this was using the lows of each avg) is $24 a day!

$24 x 7 days = $168.00 per week!

** More than likely as your following and sales threads grow you will be able to charge more and create more content, so expect it to be increasing! **
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Colle
    Well that sounds good except that not everybody is a good writer and some people aren't just made for the writing job the same as everybody can't be a lawyer or any other thing else. People are good at some things and are not at others that is just the way life works.

    So else have you got.

    Say he can't write.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    This might be true - but to be honest, this is one of those markets where newbies which dont have good reputation already might struggle - the writing market is also flooded with VERY cheap writers.

    You NEED to gain reputation on forums (like here) and get a good customer base going...and most importantly make yourself a name with VERY GOOD quality writing.

    Honestly, 90% of the cheap writers are nothing but horrible. But the people must know that you are better than those writers.

    Furthermore you can also offer additional services like submissions, eg. AMR blasts could go very well...as well as manual submissions to EZA etc. if you have an account there. And then go and promote your service(s) like crazy. Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author AustinDigital
      Originally Posted by Robert Colle View Post

      Well that sounds good except that not everybody is a good writer and some people aren't just made for the writing job the same as everybody can't be a lawyer or any other thing else. People are good at some things and are not at others that is just the way life works.

      So else have you got.

      Say he can't write.
      Well like I said, the income I listed is not for a "good writer". Those rates are for people form foreign countries (english as 2nd language who make grammar and sentence structure errors).

      People can always make excuses too isntead of sucking it up and writing for a bit to get enough money to go into other avenues. My point is that I guarantee you not one of these people have tried this.

      If he can't write, he can hire an outsource team who can, be a middle man and charge a premium over his costs. All he has to do is project managment which should be quite simple.

      He can do data entry, people pay for you to literally copy something from somewhere and paste it somewhere else. There are tons of options, people just need to suck it up in order to get where they want to be.

      You think facebook staff or warrior forum staff always did stuff they enjoyed doing for AM/IM/work? No! They did what they had to do to get the flow started... that's precisely what this is about!

      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      This might be true - but to be honest, this is one of those markets where newbies which dont have good reputation already might struggle - the writing market is also flooded with VERY cheap writers.

      You NEED to gain reputation on forums (like here) and get a good customer base going...and most importantly make yourself a name with VERY GOOD quality writing.

      Honestly, 90% of the cheap writers are nothing but horrible. But the people must know that you are better than those writers.

      Furthermore you can also offer additional services like submissions, eg. AMR blasts could go very well...as well as manual submissions to EZA etc. if you have an account there. And then go and promote your service(s) like crazy. Good luck!
      It's easy to get a reputation for content or any service. You take the hit upfront, offer the service to establish credibility, and then you're good to go. Staying at one forum or place is a poor choice on their part, you always want to diversify revenue streams if one dries up.

      Adding additional services, or substituting the writing for one of theseo ther services (and follow the steps I listed above) works perfectly! How hard is it to take someone website link, and submit it to social bookmarks or pingers? Sounds like an easy but boring $5 to me!

      Originally Posted by fromtheashesofthephoenix View Post

      This is exactly the conclusion I came too(Take action! Stop being information whores)! I'm so glad someone is on the same page as me! My plan is to write articles like a madman. Ask for hire in the warrior section as well as start writing at some other sites when work is low.

      Only thing I have to overcome is improving my writing skills.
      Exactly, the point is not whether you're good at this or that. NO ONE IS GOOD AT EVERYTHING, certain people just deal with the circumstances in hopes of greener pastures.

      I can tell you writing articles and running outsourcing teams is lucrative. I used to do it and was doing 4 figures a week after only about 20-30 days. You know why? Because I tapped into all income resources (forums, odesk, elance, etc), capitalized on a variety of services, and paid people to keep a constant stream of orders coming in.

      It really is simple, just the simple fact is people are lazy and full of excuses. Hopefully this motivates some people to better theirselves and start off with a solid moral for 2011!
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  • This is exactly the conclusion I came too(Take action! Stop being information whores)! I'm so glad someone is on the same page as me! My plan is to write articles like a madman. Ask for hire in the warrior section as well as start writing at some other sites when work is low.

    Only thing I have to overcome is improving my writing skills.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    Hmmm...if you are not in need forbig money then this idea might come in handy. But lets face the reality, not everybody will be willing to work for the minimum amount you suggested unless you are from an Asian country. The article writing industry is pretty crowded too but there are other stuffs you can do anyway, say, Fiverr or basic data entry tasks in Odesk or other portals.

    Andrea
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Andrea Wilson View Post

      Hmmm...if you are not in need forbig money then this idea might come in handy. But lets face the reality, not everybody will be willing to work for the minimum amount you suggested unless you are from an Asian country. The article writing industry is pretty crowded too but there are other stuffs you can do anyway, say, Fiverr or basic data entry tasks in Odesk or other portals.

      Andrea
      Andrea, the figures he quoted are very conservative, and if you decide from the outset to charge more than what the typical foreign writer charges (assuming that English is your first language), you could very easily replace an average full-time income here in the US if you're willing to work hard at it.

      The main point he's stressing here is that offering services is a good way to get your foot in the door, and start earning some money on the side while getting your long-term IM business off the ground. This is nothing to be ashamed of - it is a proven business model that many marketers have executed before with good results in the past. For example, Jason Fladlien used to write many articles in his beginning days to pay the bills and put food on the table, while he was getting his IM business off the ground.
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      • Profile picture of the author AustinDigital
        Originally Posted by Andrea Wilson View Post

        Hmmm...if you are not in need forbig money then this idea might come in handy. But lets face the reality, not everybody will be willing to work for the minimum amount you suggested unless you are from an Asian country. The article writing industry is pretty crowded too but there are other stuffs you can do anyway, say, Fiverr or basic data entry tasks in Odesk or other portals.

        Andrea
        You guys keep saying how crowded it is, I know people who are breaking into it daily and doing fine. I once did as well and did fine. You can say anything is crowded, so to me that is not a good excuse in this case.

        Also, as you see i stated those are the average, and not only the average, but the minimum of the average... a native english speaker can charge well over $100 per 100 words, and most writers depending on article length can put out 5+ articles pretty easy. It all depends upon how dedicated you are to actually making something of yourself.

        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        Andrea, the figures he quoted are very conservative, and if you decide from the outset to charge more than what the typical foreign writer charges (assuming that English is your first language), you could very easily replace an average full-time income here in the US if you're willing to work hard at it.

        The main point he's stressing here is that offering services is a good way to get your foot in the door, and start earning some money on the side while getting your long-term IM business off the ground. This is nothing to be ashamed of - it is a proven business model that many marketers have executed before with good results in the past. For example, Jason Fladlien used to write many articles in his beginning days to pay the bills and put food on the table, while he was getting his IM business off the ground.
        Exactly! Finally, someone taking the post for the motivation and helpfulness it is supposed to be. I hear people complain on here, and then I give them a step by step idea, and they still complain? It doesn't make sense to me... there are faults in everything, you just have to look past that and keep the long term goals in mind.
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        • Profile picture of the author wtatlas
          This an excellent post which I hope will motivate people into taking action. One thing I would like to say, however, is that it won't all be as easy as the OP implies.

          For instance "The average rate charged for "average" content is $1-$1.50 per 100 words" is difficult to get if you are a new writer on sites such as elance and odesk. The average rate on these sites if you're new is more like $1 per article!

          Also getting established with your own article writing business is no easier than establishing an "ebook selling" or an "affiliate based" business and has the same problems, such as finding sufficient customers to make it worthwhile.

          That said, as the OP says, work at it, don't expect overnight results and you can turn article writing into a worthwhile business.
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          • Profile picture of the author AustinDigital
            Originally Posted by wtatlas View Post

            This an excellent post which I hope will motivate people into taking action. One thing I would like to say, however, is that it won't all be as easy as the OP implies.

            For instance "The average rate charged for "average" content is $1-$1.50 per 100 words" is difficult to get if you are a new writer on sites such as elance and odesk. The average rate on these sites if you're new is more like $1 per article!

            Also getting established with your own article writing business is no easier than establishing an "ebook selling" or an "affiliate based" business and has the same problems, such as finding sufficient customers to make it worthwhile.

            That said, as the OP says, work at it, don't expect overnight results and you can turn article writing into a worthwhile business.
            Thanks for the appreciation, however I have to politely disagree on something. Getting a customer base for content creation is extremely easy compared to ebook and affiliate sales. All you have to do is go to a few places that do not charge to post services, offer your service and a few free reviews and you will be on your merry way with content work the same day... (this is from first hand experiences). Then you gradually channel that over once you build the customer base and expand that into other services as well.
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            • Profile picture of the author wtatlas
              Originally Posted by miscbrah View Post

              Thanks for the appreciation, however I have to politely disagree on something. Getting a customer base for content creation is extremely easy compared to ebook and affiliate sales. All you have to do is go to a few places that do not charge to post services, offer your service and a few free reviews and you will be on your merry way with content work the same day... (this is from first hand experiences). Then you gradually channel that over once you build the customer base and expand that into other services as well.
              I didn't mean to come across as a naysayer. There are folks who will read your post and do what you say, have no immediate results and then give up, thinking that it's just another technique that doesn't work, similar to all those sales letters for products that promise you $5000 a month without you doing anything. I was simply emphasising that it sometimes isn't all that easy and that you might have to keep at it for a while to build things up.

              Also I quite appreciate that if someone is a good writer then they can emulate your success and that of the person you are teaching. However, article marketing can be as difficult a road as any other in internet marketing, and I think it's worthwhile pointing out that it isn't a panacea for everyone who is having a problem making money on line.

              If, for example, someone can't write very well and he/she posts a few free reviews of their articles in an attempt to drum up business, then they're likely to have the opposite result to that which they're hoping for.

              I don't disagree with the principle of what you are suggesting, just saying that it isn't necessarily for everyone. The prerequisite to having any worthwhile success with article writing is to able to write well and if you can't then you won't get very far with this business, whether it's as easy to market it as you say or not. The advice to "brush up your writing skills" doesn't really cut it if someone has no real grasp of grammar or sentence construction, etc., or if English isn't their mother tongue.
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  • Profile picture of the author imediazone
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    Thank you for this valuable info, you make it sound so simple, and 168 $ per week sounds so good.
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    • Profile picture of the author AustinDigital
      Originally Posted by imediazone View Post

      Thank you for this valuable info, you make it sound so simple, and 168 $ per week sounds so good.
      No problem! Once you get situated and understand the stages of it, it really is that simple. I've been working with someone to get them involved following this same concept and he has already had 10 orders in one day, some of them which are requesting repeat orders already, and he is charging over $1.50 per 100 words. So as you can see it is definitely possible, the trick is just to throw your name in the hat and go for it!
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