If I Could Write 20 articles EVERYDAY

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Hello warriors,

I have learnt everything i should and i think i am ready to kick of my internet business by this time tomorrow.

I am focusing majorly on article marketing and since i have all the time in the day i believe i can write 20 articles everyday!. My question is, if i can write 20 articles everyday and keep at it for 3 months, how much do you think that could earn me?

Thanks in advance for your kind response.
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  • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
    hi

    As per King Shiloh's comment above, you are basically asking us to tell you how long is your piece of string

    Are you planning to sell them or use them to drive traffic to your offer?

    whatever you do, best of success.
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    Best thing to do is generate your own stats.

    Start writing and track your results as you go. You'll accomplish three things. First, you'll figure out how easy or hard it'll be to hit your production targets. Second, you'll discover how effective your writing, your niche and your resource box are in bringing visitors/buyers to your site. And third, you'll quickly get ideas about what to improve to boost your results and make more profits.

    But all this will only happen if you're in motion. We wish you the best of success with it, and I hope you'll keep us posted on your progress.

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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      I agree with others here.

      It's a very hard question to answer.

      What will you do with the articles?

      Will you try and guest post on relevant sites and syndicate them?

      Will you sell them as a service?

      Will you just use them for backlinks?

      What are you going to write about?

      What are you going to try and sell?

      I could go on all week. I'd also say if you can write 20 articles a day, maybe, to start off with, concentrate on the quality of your articles rather than quantity. Quality will more likely lead to quantity over time. Quantity at the start may just produce a lot of low quality articles that don't do a lot for you.
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      @charlesburke I'm sorry this is off topic. It seems to me that a lot of successful IMers live in Thailand now. Is there any specific reason?
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    That's a pretty difficult question to answer.

    There are so many variables involved, including what you plan to do with these articles.

    Remember, quality counts more than quantity, especially if you're doing article marketing with the objective of getting live humans to click on your links inside your resource box.
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    • I apologize for not making the post more detailed.

      The model is to write 20 articles everyday and submit them to directories,web 2.0 sites and then book mark them, sending the readers to either a blog/presell or optin site.

      I have 12 websites up right now where the 20 articles will be going into. and i am targetting the dating/weightloss niche.

      I hope its explanatory this time. thanks warriors
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  • Profile picture of the author vinug
    Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

    Hello warriors,

    I have learnt everything i should and i think i am ready to kick of my internet business by this time tomorrow.

    I am focusing majorly on article marketing and since i have all the time in the day i believe i can write 20 articles everyday!. My question is, if i can write 20 articles everyday and keep at it for 3 months, how much do you think that could earn me?

    Thanks in advance for your kind response.
    dear,
    rather than writing 20 articles per day..do more research on keywords and write some 3 or 4 quality articles.that will help you more.
    professional content writers wont write more than 10 per day. the numbers affect the quality..
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    • Thanks.

      All the articles am writing will be quality. I just want to know how much i can expect to make or set as a goal
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
        Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

        All the articles am writing will be quality. I just want to know how much i can expect to make or set as a goal
        Here's a suggestion. Cut your article quantity to 5 to 10 articles per day. Increase the quality by 50% to 75%.

        You will need to choose your own goal. What do you want to make at the end of 30 days of doing this? How much at the end of 90 days? At the end of 1 year?

        Reasonably, with good quality, correct promotion, and good research you could start making $1000 to $3000 per month at the end of 30 to 60 days. (Note: There are a lot of big IF's there.)

        You could hit $3000 to $5000 per month by the end of the first year if you kept it up, possibly more.

        All of what I just said is of absolutely no importance though. Not one word of it. You have to choose your own method, set your own goals, do your own research, test your own markets, improve your own quality in all aspects of your business. So, what is your goal?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      I agree with the inferences of Richard's points above (post #5).

      For myself, I'd absolutely hate to write 20 articles per day, and they couldn't possibly be fit for the purpose for which I use articles.

      I prefer producing articles which take 3/4/5 hours each to write, because that way one gets one's articles syndicated, which leads to context-relevant backlinks and targeted traffic, which in turn gradually produces growing income from an increasing flow of opt-ins and sales.

      It all depends whether you're looking at a "building an asset-based business model" of article marketing, developing true residual income from work already done while continuing to build more of the same, or a "rinse and repeat model" with which you have try to maintain as large a quantity as possible of articles written for a different purpose.

      Through syndication, quality breeds quantity on its own, without needing to produce many articles. Quantity in itself breeds nothing.

      What I'm really saying is that "if I could write 20 articles per day" I'd be earning a lot less than I'm actually earning, now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        What I'm really saying is that "if I could write 20 articles per day" I'd be earning a lot less than I'm actually earning, now.
        There is no way to know this for sure. It is an statement based on your personal opinions not on testing. You have been taught to do article marketing that way but there are other people that do it different ways and it is working for them. You can't assume your way is the only way.

        Respectfully
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        • Profile picture of the author Kim Lauren
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          Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

          There is no way to know this for sure. It is an statement based on your personal opinions not on testing. You have been taught to do article marketing that way but there are other people that do it different ways and it is working for them. You can't assume your way is the only way.

          Respectfully
          From what I have of her posts, there is every reason to indicate that her views are based on extensive testing and experience.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

          It is an statement based on your personal opinions not on testing.

          Wrong.


          I do appreciate how very much you enjoy taking up a contrary position to whatever mine happens to be, Alex, but on this occasion you've slipped up, I'm afraid.

          It is based on extensive testing. I have used both models of article marketing and indeed I switched from one to the other because when tested it produced so much more income for me, so much more reliably.

          Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

          You have been taught to do article marketing that way
          Wrong.

          Unfortunately for me, I had to teach myself. All the guides/coursebooks/"information" I could find at the time (I didn't know Bill Platt then - my loss!) were teaching an entirely different method, the "rinse and repeat" model of article marketing, which does work out for some people, but only a very tiny proportion of those who try it. The fail-rate is high indeed. Which is why you regularly see quite a lot of people around here now saying how very glad they are to have switched instead to a "writing for syndication" model of article marketing.

          Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

          there are other people that do it different ways and it is working for them.
          There are enormous numbers of people doing it another way. Probably 99.5% of article marketers are doing it another way (until most of them drop out and either disappear or come back a year later to start a thread called "Article marketing doesn't work any more". I'm guessing the exact figure, but it's certainly absolutely huge. Those writing for syndication may be the highest earners, but we're undoubtedly in a tiny minority.

          Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

          You can't assume your way is the only way.
          Far from assuming that it's "the only way", I'm well aware (as are so many others here) that it's a tiny minority way. The proportion of people trying it who achieve some success with it, however, seems to me to be way higher. That's opinion only, of course, but it's certainly interesting how many people who have tried both methods seem to share that opinion.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kim Lauren
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            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


            Wrong.


            I do appreciate how very much you enjoy taking up a contrary position to whatever mine happens to be, Alex, but on this occasion you've slipped up, I'm afraid.

            It is based on extensive testing. I have used both models of article marketing and indeed I switched from one to the other because when tested it produced so much more income for me, so much more reliably.



            Wrong.

            Unfortunately for me, I had to teach myself. All the guides/coursebooks/"information" I could find at the time (I didn't know Bill Platt then - my loss!) were teaching an entirely different method, the "rinse and repeat" model of article marketing, which does work out for some people, but only a very tiny proportion of those who try it. The fail-rate is high indeed. Which is why you regularly see quite a lot of people around here now saying how very glad they are to have switched instead to a "writing for syndication" model of article marketing.



            There are enormous numbers of people doing it another way. Probably 99.5% of article marketers are doing it another way (until most of them drop out and either disappear or come back a year later to start a thread called "Article marketing doesn't work any more". I'm guessing the exact figure, but it's certainly absolutely huge. Those writing for syndication may be the highest earners, but we're undoubtedly in a tiny minority.



            Far from assuming that it's "the only way", I'm well aware (as are so many others here) that it's a tiny minority way. The proportion of people trying it who achieve some success with it, however, seems to me to be way higher. That's opinion only, of course, but it's certainly interesting how many people who have tried both methods seem to share that opinion.
            That was handled with aplomb.
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      • Profile picture of the author magnates
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I agree with the inferences of Richard's points above (post #5).

        For myself, I'd absolutely hate to write 20 articles per day, and they couldn't possibly be fit for the purpose for which I use articles.

        I prefer producing articles which take 3/4/5 hours each to write, because that way one gets one's articles syndicated, which leads to context-relevant backlinks and targeted traffic, which in turn gradually produces growing income from an increasing flow of opt-ins and sales.

        It all depends whether you're looking at a "building an asset-based business model" of article marketing, developing true residual income from work already done while continuing to build more of the same, or a "rinse and repeat model" with which you have try to maintain as large a quantity as possible of articles written for a different purpose.

        Through syndication, quality breeds quantity on its own, without needing to produce many articles. Quantity in itself breeds nothing.

        What I'm really saying is that "if I could write 20 articles per day" I'd be earning a lot less than I'm actually earning, now.
        Richard absolutely nailed it on the head and so did this sweet young lady ,Alexa. 20 articles a day is amazing . If they put a gun on your head and told you to write 20 , am sure you figure out a way .

        It is a good thing . however , it is about quality . What i mean by quality is that value that people from reading your articles .. Do they feel like they have wasted their time reading your articles , do they get any thing useful form it . Does your article make a positive impact in lives or do they just get entertainment value from it

        It you are going to create high value articles that is capable of creating life change results in other people lives , it is going to take some thoughts and some time . Am talking at an hour unless of course you have experiences and story to share even then your end goal is to provide value first and then receive .

        Much love

        Femi
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    That will be a function of your niche, who sees your articles, your copywriting skills, etc. You could make anywhere from zero to thousands. Beginners usually make more towards the zero end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    Impossible to answer but I'd say easily over $1000 a month (may take a few months for everything to settle though). But it depends if your method works in the 1st place.

    Just try and see how you go. If you don't make any money after 50 articles, than you know you're doing something wrong. But of course if you do 50, that'll only take you 2.5 days which isnt long enough to know if its working.

    So I dunno LOL, but I'd say its likely you make some good money with that amount of articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author russells
    That is a solid goal!

    Your earnings would depend on many factors including:

    1. The quality of your writing
    2. The bio box being compelling enough
    3. The offer or squeeze page converting
    4. The article being engaging enough for readers to stay on the page
    5. The article being syndicated around or listed in search engines
    6. And many more
    You can never estimate earnings. Article marketing requires very good quality articles and good optimisation for page 1 listings.

    It's certainly possible to earn A LOT from article marketing if it's done right. The only thing you can do is churn them out and keep improving your skill.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      No one knows - that's the truth. CAN you write 20 articles every day? I'm a writer and I can't do that as I'd burn out quickly.

      Instead of asking "how much will I earn IF I DO THIS?"....

      do it.

      Write ten articles a day for a month and see what it does for you. Once you know what results YOU can get, you can adjust your efforts to meet your goals.

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      • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
        If you can turn out 20 quality articles a day that's a lot of motivation. I'd do it a day or two before quitting and never writing again.

        I'd agree with others who've said you might want to stop for a 'success check' periodically to see if your method is working for you monetarily.
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      • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
        Is it even possible to write 20 articles in a day? I usually need one hour to write 1 article. Sometimes more. But my articles are usually between 700-800 words, and I want them to be good!!!

        I'm not a wordsmith, nor an outstanding writer (wouldn't call that myself yet), and English is my third language, BUT I still try to make my articles quality instead of quantity.

        It's best to have a few great written articles, than tons of bad articles.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Anyone that gives you any kind of answer is guessing, pure and simple.

          First off, "dating/weight loss" is not a market - it's two very large and diverse markets. Trying to cover both on 20 article per day is setting yourself up to fail. You need to hone in on very specific groups within those large markets.

          Next, whether you can crank out 20 "quality" articles per day depends a lot on your definitions of both "quality" and "article." If you mean a couple of hundred words with a keyword in them and they pass Copyscape, yeah, you could probably put out 20 a day. Better plan on maintaining that pace for as long as you want to make anything happen, though. That kind of filler generally does not get syndicated, so you'll be on your own.

          Last, how much you can expect to make will depend on factors outside of your control. Specifically, it will mainly depend on the ability of your landing pages to send pre-sold traffic to the vendor's sales page AND on the vendor's ability to convert those visits into sales.

          Is it a good plan? On the surface, sure, if you can maintain it long enough to see meaningful results. But there's no way for anyone reading what you've posted here to give you any kind of meaningful answer...
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        • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
          Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post


          It's best to have a few great written articles, than tons of bad articles.
          Best to have both.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor View Post

            ...BTW myob, do you also publish Ads to these ezines (as I've done it for network marketing in the past), or do you just use these ezines as a means to contact owners in certain niches?
            Very much so. Solo ads are almost as powerful a form of advertising as articles. In fact good articles, and to a lesser extent even solo ads, sent by publishers to their subscribers carry a subtle but powerful "aura", so to speak, of implied endorsement or even authority. There really is nothing better than well-written syndicated articles for free publicity and advertising just because of these valued implications of having been authoritatively promulgated.

            It ain't gonna happen fer 1 or 2 cents a wurd.
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            • Originally Posted by myob View Post

              Very much so. Solo ads are almost as powerful a form of advertising as articles. In fact good articles, and to a lesser extent even solo ads, sent by publishers to their subscribers carry a subtle but powerful "aura", so to speak, of implied endorsement or even authority. There really is nothing better than well-written syndicated articles for free publicity and advertising just because of these valued implications of having been authoritatively promulgated.

              It ain't gonna happen fer 1 or 2 cents a wurd.
              Gotcha!
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            • Profile picture of the author nekrozon
              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              Very much so. Solo ads are almost as powerful a form of advertising as articles. In fact good articles, and to a lesser extent even solo ads, sent by publishers to their subscribers carry a subtle but powerful "aura", so to speak, of implied endorsement or even authority. There really is nothing better than well-written syndicated articles for free publicity and advertising just because of these valued implications of having been authoritatively promulgated.

              It ain't gonna happen fer 1 or 2 cents a wurd.

              Sorry to revive this thread, but I wanted to keep this in context to myob's last post. I'm praying for a nugget here from myob.

              Do you have a good source to find solo ads? Would you suggest Directory of ezines, or something like this:

              Mailing List Finder -- Search & Compare Mailing Lists

              Thanks for answering my prayers in advance
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by nekrozon View Post

                Sorry to revive this thread, but I wanted to keep this in context to myob's last post. I'm praying for a nugget here from myob.

                Do you have a good source to find solo ads? Would you suggest Directory of ezines, or something like this:

                Mailing List Finder -- Search & Compare Mailing Lists

                Thanks for answering my prayers in advance
                There is not much more to add than what has already been written extensively on these topics. The primary function of the Directory of Ezines is an advertising resource for ezine ads including solo ads. Many other sources and methods for locating advertising include the search engines and right here in the forum. Much of my own advertising is also offline such as magazines, newspapers, trade journals and multimedia. You can look in magazines.com and newspapers.com for additional advertising and article submission sources.
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                • Profile picture of the author Andarawi
                  First I think the quality of articles matters than the quantity , I don't no if you can maintain the same quality with writing 20 articles/ every day
                  Secondly It is good idea to concentrate in one method but not totally ignore the other methods , and tracking and evaluating each method after using for a while .
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        • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
          Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post

          English is my third language ...
          Oh, that some of those who have English as their first language would write as good as you do.

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  • Yes this is a very broad question. It all comes down to how targeted your traffic is and whether your articles will entice them to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author 100Bandz
    Do you plan to research keywords for each article? If so, that would be magnificent.. If you do twenty a day (which is very possible), then that's 1,800 in 3 months.. That's a lot of content, my friend. Don't let any one tell you about "quality", reality is it really doesn't matter (I've seen some of our warriors articles who preach, "quality" and let me just say... They weren't much better then the $3 I gave a Indian to write me an article..).

    What matters is doing proper keyword research and tying to rank in the google. When I usually do keyword research, I aim for keywords with 1,000 monthly searches.. If you do that for everyone of your articles, than that's over 1.8 million hits (That doesn't mean you will get 1.8 million views/month)..

    Go do some research on some top guys on Ezine, and study there bio box.. Try to get good at it, and aim for at least 20% CTR.. Keep the articles short, no more then 350 words, and aim to throw in a couple of LSI terms.. Maybe 10-15. Keyword density is capped at 2% for Ezine, so try to get that..

    I won't give you an estimate because it's hard, but just make sure you research keywords!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
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      Originally Posted by 100Bandz View Post

      If you do twenty a day (which is very possible), then that's 1,800 in 3 months.. That's a lot of content, my friend. Don't let any one tell you about "quality", reality is it really doesn't matter (I've seen some of our warriors articles who preach, "quality" and let me just say... They weren't much better then the $3 I gave a Indian to write me an article..).

      What matters is doing proper keyword research and tying to rank in the google. When I usually do keyword research, I aim for keywords with 1,000 monthly searches.. If you do that for everyone of your articles, than that's over 1.8 million hits (That doesn't mean you will get 1.8 million views/month)..

      Go do some research on some top guys on Ezine, and study there bio box.. Try to get good at it, and aim for at least 20% CTR.. Keep the articles short, no more then 350 words, and aim to throw in a couple of LSI terms.. Maybe 10-15. Keyword density is capped at 2% for Ezine, so try to get that..

      I won't give you an estimate because it's hard, but just make sure you research keywords!!
      Naturally Bandz, you are entitled to your opinion, as am I.

      I personally also think you could write 20 articles a day but I can assure you, a newbie with no idea how to write a successful article, could write 200 a day and not earn as much money as some successful article marketers here, which you say can't write better than a $3 article you purchased off an Indian lady or gentleman, writing one a day.

      No where have you even mentioned article syndication, which is where the real crux and profit of article marketing comes from, all you're looking at is low PR backlinks from an article directory and lots and lots of them. You haven't even touched on the need for quality if you want to guest post on totally relevant high PR sites with people that need what you have to offer them.

      Sadly as someone that understands article marketing, you've literally only touched on 20%, if that, of what article marketing even is.

      Your idea of article marketing is to do keyword research...which for anyone getting into this should be the most obvious thing in the world, then just write as much as you can and don't worry about quality at all.

      If quality is a complete waste of the OP's time why don't you tell him/her to make 200 a day by just spinning the 20 he has at the end of the day. That way the OP will have 18,000 articles after 3 months.

      ...and he/she still won't have to worry about quality
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      • Profile picture of the author inter123
        I am curious to know if high traffic quality sites bother to get many of their articles from the like of Ezine Articles, Go Articles and co? Have seen a few articles on the said sites that exceed 1000+ words and are obviously written (or so it seems) by professionals from the industry.

        This is not information that has been taken purely from researching the Internet. If you are a Marketer, can someone really afford the time to become "an expert" in over 10 different niches?

        I am just guessing here but is idea of "article syndication", is that not leaving things to chance? Hoping that some site will pick it up and once published, will end up on a site / webpage that is going to bring in traffic.

        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

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        No where have you even mentioned article syndication, which is where the real crux and profit of article marketing comes from, all you're looking at is low PR backlinks from an article directory and lots and lots of them. You haven't even touched on the need for quality if you want to guest post on totally relevant high PR sites with people that need what you have to offer them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          I am curious to know if high traffic quality sites bother to get many of their articles from the like of Ezine Articles, Go Articles and co? Have seen a few articles on the said sites that exceed 1000+ words and are obviously written by (or so it seems) by professionals from the industry.

          This is not information that has been taken purely from researching the Internet. If you are a Marketer, can someone really afford the time to become "an expert" in over 10 different niches?

          I am just guessing here but is idea of "article syndication" leaving things to chance. Hoping that some site will pick it up and once published, will end up on a site / webpage that is going to bring in traffic.
          You are indeed guessing.

          This is not information that has been taken purely from researching the Internet
          How exactly have you come to this conclusion?

          Article marketers extensively research niches, You think professionals in the industry have time to sit around writing articles on which they spend the day working?

          There is nothing stopping anyone being interested in 10 niches, spending time researching them and successfully creating articles about them.

          I am just guessing here but is idea of "article syndication" leaving things to chance. Hoping that some site will pick it up and once published, will end up on a site / webpage that is going to bring in traffic
          Nothing is left to chance. You approach the owners of these sites and form relationships with them, you guest post on their sites, they get useful relevant content for their sites and you create a good relationship which can lead to JV's and all sorts of things.

          Alexa Smith who has posted here is probably the best example I know of this and her business model is not only very well thought out but highly successful and continues to grow. It is based on successfully syndicating articles, not leaving them on directories "hoping" people find them.

          Either way, just because someone syndicates their articles doesn't mean they don't have the same backlinks from the article directories. All they've done is taken it to a totally different level that most people don't realise or think about doing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          I am just guessing here but is idea of "article syndication", is that not leaving things to chance? Hoping that some site will pick it up and once published, will end up on a site / webpage that is going to bring in traffic.
          No, I am a marketer. I am a promoter. I will research who is using syndicated articles within my niche and introduce myself. I will show them an example of my work and a link to my authors page within their niche.

          Of course you can leave it to chance if you want. Or just play the lotto....
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by Barry Unruh View Post

            No, I am a marketer. I am a promoter. I will research who is using syndicated articles within my niche and introduce myself. I will show them an example of my work and a link to my authors page within their niche.

            Of course you can leave it to chance if you want. Or just play the lotto....
            The ultimate comes when you can form your own private syndicate and cut the article directories out altogether, except for finding new potential syndication partners.

            (No, I haven't quite reached that point yet. But I'm working on it...)
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            • Guest posts are the ultimate way to article market products and they don't even have to be your own!

              If say, I wrote an article for another blog on driving traffic to a site and I left affiliate links inside the article to several useful products, well then I just did article marketing with a far higher chance of success then a random ezine article.

              I would suggest writing 10 ezine articles per day and then 1 really good guest post submission to a site in your niche.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          I am curious to know if high traffic quality sites bother to get many of their articles from the like of Ezine Articles, Go Articles and co?
          Who cares?

          As long as they take some of my articles, and I get their high-PR context-relevant backlinks and some of their pre-targeted traffic, I'm delighted. It makes no difference to me how many articles they're getting that way or where the rest of their content comes from.

          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          Have seen a few articles on the said sites that exceed 1000+ words and are obviously written (or so it seems) by professionals from the industry.
          "Or so it seems" says a lot.

          To be a very successful barrister, you need either to know a lot of law, or be very good on your feet in court. To get your work syndicated to sites like that you need either to be a genuine expert in the niche or to write something of interest and appropriate length about it with controversy, entertainment and provocation, with "laughs in all the right places" and write it so that when the owner of that site sees it his immediate reaction is "Wow, I want that one". It helps to know something about the niche to start with, obviously, but it's more important to be good on your stilettos in court.

          Also: length matters. Clearly, nobody wants a 300-word article evidently written to promote something.

          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          If you are a Marketer, can someone really afford the time to become "an expert" in over 10 different niches?
          Enough for these purposes, yes - easily. However, there is, admittedly, a prevalent (even if ill-informed) suspicion that you can't, which is why it helps so much to use one pen-name per niche, and stick to it everywhere.

          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          I am just guessing here but is idea of "article syndication", is that not leaving things to chance? Hoping that some site will pick it up and once published, will end up on a site / webpage that is going to bring in traffic.
          Yup ... you're certainly "just guessing".

          That isn't how it works at all.

          One builds up a network of contacts who want content. You have to follow up relentlessly and efficiently (it's easy, and it's the part of article marketing which has the most direct and immediate financial rewards for the effort put into it).

          This is the part where the increasing residual income is, really. You need to find out where your work's been syndicated (very easily done), and from where, too (e.g. using the "punctuation trick" to enable later identifcation of the source at a glance). And contact those people offering them further work "not yet in EZA" (after publishing it and getting it indexed on your own site first, of course!). This involves no extra work. All you need to do, next time you write an article, is put it on your site and get it indexed, then send them a copy by email, resource-box included, of course, and then submit it to EZA/wherever. You just need a standard, pre-written email making the offer (very often accepted - it takes literally 10 seconds to "fill in the blank" and send it). This is how you can increase your sometimes-high-PR context-relevant backlinks and get someone else's pre-targeted traffic visiting your site.

          Once someone has started syndicating your work, they'll take more. As long as you offer it, and don't depend on random factors.

          It's good to think well beynd article directories, in article marketing. But, (paradoxically? No, not really) using some article directories is one of the ways to reach beyond article directories. As long as you don't "write for clicks", of course: that effectively limits the lifespan of your work.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kim Lauren
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            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            You need to find out where your work's been syndicated (very easily done), and from where, too (e.g. using the "punctuation trick" to enable later identifcation of the source at a glance). And contact those people offering them further work "not yet in EZA" (after publishing it and getting it indexed on your own site first, of course!).
            Sorry to dig up an old thread, Alexa, but I came across this post through a link you referenced in another post yesterday.

            For those blog owners, ezine publishers and whoever else you are targeting who have not yet found your content through an article directory, do you mention to these prospects - in your introductory email to them - that articles you plan to submit will not have been published anywhere other than your site?
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          I am curious to know if high traffic quality sites bother to get many of their articles from the like of Ezine Articles, Go Articles and co? Have seen a few articles on the said sites that exceed 1000+ words and are obviously written (or so it seems) by professionals from the industry.
          I've been on this side of the street, too. I had sites where virtually all of the content was syndicated. When I got content from article directories, I tended to find writers in the niche whose writing I enjoyed and/or found particularly well-written and informative.

          I would look for them first when looking for new content to post.

          Then I would look for new writers to add to that list.

          And as you noted, the writers on my short list generally put up longer articles that read like they were written by pros.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    You could earn anywhere between $0 and $50,000

    The thing that separates the two amounts is your keyword selection, quality, and article promotion techniques.

    If you are going to try and write alot of articles in a day, I highly suggest large amounts of Red Bull.
    Seriously, it gives you wings!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAnderson
    Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

    I have learnt everything i should
    Sorry to say........ I don't think buddy.
    If you've learnt everything, you don't ask such a kind of question here. Isn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    i think what this guy is broadly asking is, if he works his butt off, will he succeed

    and the broad answer to this is YES. but only if you do it right. if you CAN write 20 articles a day, why not test it for a couple of days to see what results you get after 9-14 days?

    then you can come back here and tell US how much (or how little) you made
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  • Thanks everyone. I am very grateful for the advice and i have noted some nice points.

    @matt5409 that is exactly what i am going to do.

    once again thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

      Thanks everyone. I am very grateful for the advice and i have noted some nice points.

      @matt5409 that is exactly what i am going to do.

      once again thanks
      Hi Successfulwarrior.

      Don't take my points the wrong way either, I was just trying to show you, one of the posters here, wasn't being entirely useful to you.

      Nothing wrong with working your socks off and I wish you the best of luck.

      When you write though, always think about what someone interested in what you want them to buy, will be interested in what you have to write.

      Good luck.
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  • Umm... practically speaking, if you could write 20 articles a day and keep at it for 3 months, it wouldn't earn anything at all.

    It's what you do with those articles that makes you money.

    That being said, you should consider how much time it takes you to write those 20 articles a day. If it takes you the whole day, by the end of the day you won't have the time or the energy to do anything with them...
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Cheers for the info. I have been considering article marketing, looks like there is more to it then just directory submission with folks tuned to a detailed level to get the best out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author daangertenaar
    You could earn from a zero to a million, it's up to you and in my opinion you can't say how much you're going to earn, it all depends on quality, quantity, where do you submit your articles to.

    Remember: Don't choose quantity over quality. Better write 3 valuable articles each day, than 20 worthless articles each day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

    My question is, if i can write 20 articles everyday and keep at it for 3 months, how much do you think that could earn me?
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    $1,496.82. Hang on a second. No, sorry. I forgot to carry a 1. It's gonna be $1,497.12.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

    Hello warriors,

    I have learnt everything i should and i think i am ready to kick of my internet business by this time tomorrow.

    I am focusing majorly on article marketing and since i have all the time in the day i believe i can write 20 articles everyday!. My question is, if i can write 20 articles everyday and keep at it for 3 months, how much do you think that could earn me?

    Thanks in advance for your kind response.
    This greatly depends on the niche, how good of a writer you are, if you actually stick to it, and how good your websites convert. My advice is to get some good article marketing advice, learn how to write for marketing, and then start writing.

    I will warn you that you may get burnt out and a better solution might be to write a lot for a while, earn some cash, and start outsourcing some of the writing to a good writer from this forum.

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  • Profile picture of the author LegionNate
    I hear a lot of talk about quantity vs. quality, especially in Ezinearticles.com for the benefit of syndication. I know Alexa, and it seems Richard Van, are fans of this. It makes sense to me, but one question I have is if anyone has ever found that the length of the article has any bearing on how often it is syndicated? I looked at my articles that have been syndicated more than other and couldn't find any rhyme or reason. All my articles are between 300-400 words (because I have been a quantity guy in the past).

    I'm wondering if people choose to syndicate or publish an article not only because they find it of good value, but also because they like more content on their site. If so, has anyone found an optimal length? 500 words? 700? 1000+? Thanks for any thoughts on that.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by LegionNate View Post

      I hear a lot of talk about quantity vs. quality, especially in Ezinearticles.com for the benefit of syndication. I know Alexa, and it seems Richard Van, are fans of this. It makes sense to me, but one question I have is if anyone has ever found that the length of the article has any bearing on how often it is syndicated? I looked at my articles that have been syndicated more than other and couldn't find any rhyme or reason. All my articles are between 300-400 words (because I have been a quantity guy in the past).

      I'm wondering if people choose to syndicate or publish an article not only because they find it of good value, but also because they like more content on their site. If so, has anyone found an optimal length? 500 words? 700? 1000+? Thanks for any thoughts on that.
      Nate, when I ran articles in a short-lived print newsletter, the sweet spot for a feature article was around 700-750 words. That filled about two content pages.

      When I source articles for content sites, I'm not looking for 3-400 word fillers. I'm looking for high-quality, well written articles in the 1,000 to 1,500 word range. As someone put it in another thread, I'm looking for pieces that "appear to be written by professional writers." Quality doesn't have to be on par with the New Yorker, but it should be at least as good as a beat writer for a local paper...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    If you are going to submit articles to promote your own CPA or CPS ventures, then I suppose it will all depend on the effectiveness of the articles as well as how many views that it will receive. You want to get a good balance of both quantity and quality and you will succeed.
    Another option would be to be a freelance writer. You could charge as low as $3 per article writing 20 a day would be $60 a day equating to $1800 a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author waken
    Just do it..and keep doing it. Make sure you analyse your result and keep doing what works best with your time.

    While quality is important, quantity sure is as important.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by waken View Post

      Just do it..and keep doing it. Make sure you analyse your result and keep doing what works best with your time.

      While quality is important, quantity sure is as important.
      Actually, quality trumps quantity everytime. You will get far more long term benefit with one quality article syndicated to 1,000 content-relevant sites, than 1,000 blasts of content-mangled keywords posing as articles. This is what experience will teach you.
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      • Profile picture of the author ELK
        The more I scour the internet doing my own research for my writing projects, the more I see crap writing lying around EVERYWHERE. I mean it's in the top 10 Google results, it's in Ezinearticles, it's all over the place.

        I can't read it or use it for my research.

        I wouldn't want to read it if I was wanting to learn something.

        I can't understand why people are so eager and willing to put so much CRAP out there.

        I haven't done much in the "create my own writing projects" arena, but I've done plenty of ghost writing and blog writing. I can't imagine how you'd be able to make a sustainable business if you aren't writing something of substance, and without an off-putting obvious sales pitch.

        Think like a reader, someone who'd really honestly look forward to reading your stuff over and over again. Think about what you'd want to read yourself.

        And STOP PUTTING OUT CRAP.

        That is all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tuxxy
    Depends, selling the articles you could easily make $100+/per day selling 20 articles, but then your not building up a passive income, if your planning on submitting the articles to EZA etc, then it all depends on your niche, the landing page, what your promoting and so on.

    The best way to find out, is just start pushing those articles out and see what happens, good luck!
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  • Quality over quantity definitely. But I'm sure you could do the numbers your self. For the sake of giving an answer to those who are desperate for numbers. These aren't correct just an example.

    20 Articles, you keep that up for lets say 4 months. Your aim is for the average of each article to have 100 views by the end of the year. That's 240,000 views by the end of the year. I've read from a few people who do use this aggressive strategy that their conversions are as low as 0.8-1.2 percent.

    For our sake lets say your conversion rate is 1 percent. Lets say the product we are promoting is $20. That's 2400 conversions x 20 dollars is $48,000. And those conversion rates are from people who use several VAs which means they aren't necessarily sacrificing quality.

    And these guys started with only 1-3 articles a day first.

    Now if you were to do this, is it really worth it? I mean that traffic dies out very quickly, sure you've made money but after bills and so forth you need another amount for the next year. Furthermore doing 20 articles can take much longer than one day unless you are sacrificing EXTREME quality. Then you have the trouble of your articles maybe not getting accepted.

    In the end you are a slave to article marketing and you could make similar money just working in a normal job doing way less hours. Point is to build a business that sets you up for life.

    And again the above conversions are from people who actually have an idea.

    Numbers aren't a fact, I'm just using conversions from other people who have done case studies. In the end, not worth going the aggressive route.
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  • This response is to someone who doesn't build a list. Though I doubt you'd have enough time to keep an efficient list if you took this approach.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Jason, I assume you mean these 100 avg views per article by the end of the year are from within the article directories only. If those same 20 articles daily are syndicated for example to 100 related ezines with avg subscriber base of let's say 1,000, the avg views could be extrapolated by a factor of as much as 100,000 times (theoretically) with a commensurate conversion of $4,800,000. It appears your model treats article directories as a dead end, but the syndication model treats article directories as only the beginning.

      Aggressive (or proactive) syndication would be not only submitting quality articles to the directories for the short term backlinks, but also searching for content-relevant outlets such as ezines, blogs, and websites. Passive syndication is also a by-product and benefit of high quality writing.

      Currently, my articles in the major directories contribute a nearly insignificant percentage of revenue compared to the more targeted market of content-relevant syndication. Proactive syndication, beyond article directory submissions, is well worth the extra effort.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kim Lauren
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        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Jason, I assume you mean these 100 avg views per article by the end of the year are from within the article directories only. If those same 20 articles daily are syndicated for example to 100 related ezines with avg subscriber base of let's say 1,000, the avg views could be extrapolated by a factor of as much as 100,000 times (theoretically) with a commensurate conversion of $4,800,000. It appears your model treats article directories as a dead end, but the syndication model treats article directories as only the beginning.

        Aggressive (or proactive) syndication would be not only submitting quality articles to the directories for the short term backlinks, but also searching for content-relevant outlets such as ezines, blogs, and websites. Passive syndication is also a by-product and benefit of high quality writing.

        Currently, my articles in the major directories contribute a nearly insignificant percentage of revenue compared to the more targeted market of content-relevant syndication. Proactive syndication, beyond article directory submissions, is well worth the extra effort.
        I can't thank this post because I've run out my allotment or something. Just wanted to say thanks for writing this. A person can build a solid business - with steadily growing residual income - based on what you and Alexa have so clearly, persuasively and convincingly outlined these last few days.
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        • Profile picture of the author paj_mccarthy
          If you're focussing on writing x number of articles per day then you're focussing on the wrong area.

          Heck, I did the same when I started out - in fact, I wrote over 300 articles in my first month. My results weren't great - I made money - but sheer brute force is not the way.

          Listen to Alexa. She comes from the Bill Platt school of thought with regards to article marketing. Go directly to the publisher. In my experience this is the single best way to get traffic and rankings at the same time.

          And take note that tracking is key here. You can't hit home runs every time, but you can damn well track everything to give yourself the best chance possible.

          If you don't like the idea of going directly to the publisher, then you can make a lot of money by publishing your articles on ezinearticles.com and backlinking them to get them ranked.

          It's not ideal though - you're building an asset you don't own. So I don't recommend this as a long term strategy.

          Whichever strategy you take, make sure you don't write blindly. Track conversions so you know the exact articles that make sales, figure out why it works, learn and replicate.

          And be warned, if you're a new article marketer, then expect a dip from your first x number of articles. The dip being a period of time where your results aren't what you expected. This doesn't mean article marketing doesn't work - it just means you haven't quite cracked it, yet.

          See it through and make "bank"!
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            A story I like to share illustrates how you can crack into any niche no matter how competitive it may be by article marketing. But you will never make the big bucks by trying to out-Google the competition with key-word enriched slop. For example with mesothelioma (lung cancer from asbestos) it is impossible to even rank at all in Google, the cost of PPC is out of reach, and the competition is fiercely hot with huge advertising budgets.

            My blog is nowhere near even the top 10,000, but I'm snatching a very nice income from this niche with nearly negligible cost in promotion as a regular contributor to several newsletters for attorneys and medical groups working those types of issues. These articles are promoting my blog which contains affiliate links to related books in Amazon. Many of these specialty books sell for $200-$300 in this niche, and there are tons of them.

            An easy way to find targeted ezine publishers for your articles is by using the Directory of Ezines (directoryofezines.com). This is certainly not the only resource, but it works quite well for me to quickly locate ezine publishers in specific niches. A targeted search for relevant websites and blogs can also be done through search engines to find possible syndication candidates. Many of these outlets are hungry for quality content, and if you can make their job easier by providing it, you will be well ahead of other writers who merely submit to article directories.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Jason, I assume you mean these 100 avg views per article by the end of the year are from within the article directories only. If those same 20 articles daily are syndicated for example to 100 related ezines with avg subscriber base of let's say 1,000, the avg views could be extrapolated by a factor of as much as 100,000 times (theoretically) with a commensurate conversion of $4,800,000. It appears your model treats article directories as a dead end, but the syndication model treats article directories as only the beginning.

        Aggressive (or proactive) syndication would be not only submitting quality articles to the directories for the short term backlinks, but also searching for content-relevant outlets such as ezines, blogs, and websites. Passive syndication is also a by-product and benefit of high quality writing.

        Currently, my articles in the major directories contribute a nearly insignificant percentage of revenue compared to the more targeted market of content-relevant syndication. Proactive syndication, beyond article directory submissions, is well worth the extra effort.
        +1 again yup.

        One word! T.A.R.G.E.T.E.D

        You will always get better results from targeted traffic than an article just sitting on a directory, sort of in cyberspace waiting for the owners to find you. Yes they may, but it is once in a CHEESE MOON!

        Going to the publishers, is like doing their hard work for them. They can only say NO we do not want your article. But 95% of the time they say yes to me. But I bribe them like this below.


        Please do not blame me, I have a GIFT!! ha ha. :p:p:p
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  • This is not my model or what I do. Those 100 views are as you said a mix of views within the directory, some serp views hopefully, bookmarking and so forth. Like I said, I'm giving the guy the answer he really wants to hear

    "For the sake of giving an answer to those who are desperate for numbers. These aren't correct just an example."

    Think in another thread I've said that yours or alexas way of doing it is far more effective in the long run.

    The guy wants to know how much he can earn, and I gave him an answer based on what I've seen others get if he does it the way he states.

    Am I wrong with what I said? Am I completely off if he were to use that business model?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor View Post

      ....Am I wrong with what I said? Am I completely off if he were to use that business model?
      I'm not sure about the actual numbers, (or my math ) but I think you were right on in demonstrating the severe limitations of that model.
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      • Originally Posted by myob View Post

        I'm not sure about the actual numbers, (or my math ) but I think you were right on in demonstrating the severe limitations of that model.
        Interms of the maths I meant 1 percent conversion of overall views. So 4 months at 20 articles a day would be 2400 articles. 100 views x 2400 is 240,000 and 1 percent of that is 2400. At $20 a pop that is $48,000.

        I'm sure by the way you present yourself that you can and did do the maths but rather are not sure whether that is indeed possible or true
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  • Numbers were taken from a few posts and blog posts I've seen from people who use clickbank to promote products using direct sales. No opt-in, just pulling in sheer number of views to the point that even at the smallest conversions they are earning a considerable amount.

    Someone with no budget to pay for articles, would deffo be a slave to this sort of method.

    Personally I have used Article Marketing mainly for 2 reasons as of yet. (but not the above model)

    1. Backlinks
    2. Rank in the search engines free of charge with my articles

    I then did also use a direct linking method to my offers. Syndication was a plus. But currently very eager to pick-up on how to write good articles that get syndicated, and thus I am then able to seek out trusted sources for syndication as from what I have read that is what you do? Seems very productive
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  • Profile picture of the author Sherlyjames
    That is very good thing to write articles every day , this is very good way of learning because writing articles involves alot of research, which is very good for learning.
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  • Profile picture of the author J23
    Not sure if anyone's brought this up yet, but there was a thread on DP a while ago where some guy tried to do the exact same thing: write 20 articles every day and see if it would make him a lot of money.

    He didn't want to do any sort of promotion or SEO work to the articles, and just thought that the mass quantity itself would be enough.

    From what I know, his results weren't very good at all for the work he was putting in, and he probably would have made more money selling the articles for $3 a piece.

    Here's the thread: 20 Articles a Day'll Make the Bills go Away

    So my opinion, don't try and just mass submit a ton of articles, because it probably won't bring you the type of money you're expecting and it won't be worth your time.
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  • So I was correct in what I said. Making that many articles can make you money momentarily but if stopped almost instantly stops working. As I said, the op quit after a month because it was just too much to do.

    Hope that answers your question OP, you will make money, but just as quick as it comes it will go again. At worst work on a few articles and get them ranking. At best, work on a few articles but have them published on your own sites first and work for syndication.

    BTW myob, do you also publish Ads to these ezines (as I've done it for network marketing in the past), or do you just use these ezines as a means to contact owners in certain niches?
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  • Profile picture of the author CShark
    Hey Paul,

    I second your opinion. That's so true!

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I would rather write, one, kick ass, holy moley, whizz bang, mumma mia, high quality article than 20 articles that well....simple just fizzle.

    We always get much better results from one high quality article over the mediocre ones.

    I will sometimes hire writers too, the expensive ones also, because they do get results, if they can prove themselves.

    Remember with the panda update, google wants high quality. So give it to her. Do not be a theif in the night looking for a quick fix. That will not get you results.

    High quality first, more people respond to high quality. If you just write another articles, that is exactly what people think when they get to the end. They go "MEH....just another article"

    WoW Them, and give google what she wants at the same time, seduce her in a way with a feather and all! Yeah baby!

    Oh I am so naughty, I must be spanked!! :O See....there I go again!
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      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      Oh I am so naughty, I must be spanked!!
      Hmm ... Interesting ... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
    i tried to write articles for dr mani, actually i was rewriting them. i also did research and small writeups. i did ok at first but its a lot harder then you think to continue to keep up the momentum
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  • Profile picture of the author sriram rajan
    I believe that if the quality of articles are high quality as you mentioned generally you can get $5 - $ 7 for a 500 - 600 word article and i you can do 20 of them each day you should make around $100 per day , once you get your client base ready for getting more content frmom you, initially you may have to pffer your services at a lower rate to get few clients and their testimonials in though. good luck ... again $100 per day is doable if you stick to it for a few weeks and master the article writing process to such an extenet than you can systemize and out source parts of it .
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

    Hello warriors,

    I have learnt everything i should and i think i am ready to kick of my internet business by this time tomorrow.

    I am focusing majorly on article marketing and since i have all the time in the day i believe i can write 20 articles everyday!. My question is, if i can write 20 articles everyday and keep at it for 3 months, how much do you think that could earn me?

    Thanks in advance for your kind response.
    It depends. Are you writing for your own business or for someone else? What is your quote per word?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lea Karana
    Originally Posted by successfulwarrior View Post

    Hello warriors,

    I have learnt everything i should and i think i am ready to kick of my internet business by this time tomorrow.

    I am focusing majorly on article marketing and since i have all the time in the day i believe i can write 20 articles everyday!. My question is, if i can write 20 articles everyday and keep at it for 3 months, how much do you think that could earn me?

    Thanks in advance for your kind response.
    The best advice i can tell you is not to worry so much about how much you will make.
    The main important thing is to take action and stay consistent, you will then see results, see what works what doesn't.

    Good luck to you

    Lea
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