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What are LSI words?

by AFI
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I was reading a blog and they were talking about "LSI words" but never really explained what they were. Anyone? :confused:
#lsi #words
  • Profile picture of the author The Mysterious Marketer
    It refers to keywords that are related to the main theme keyword of the article.

    You can read more about it here, though it is a bit technical:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_semantic_indexing

    So for example, if you were writing an article about dog training, related LSI keywords would include:

    dog breeds
    dog potty training
    dog tricks
    dog house training
    puppy training
    dog food
    dog treats

    and more
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  • Profile picture of the author Margo Tuul
    And to add: To find LSI keywords, you can use Google Wonderwheel
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    • Profile picture of the author Highkick
      Latent Semantic Indexing

      Related keywords that would pop up in google'


      For instance your keyword is sleeping bag & google pulls up British Army Slumber Bag
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Exactly What Are LSI Keywords Anyway?

    Quick simple explanation
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  • Profile picture of the author freemen14
    Originally Posted by AFI View Post

    I was reading a blog and they were talking about "LSI words" but never really explained what they were. Anyone? :confused:
    Stands for Latent Semantic Indexing and yes it's basically related keywords for your main keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    Thank you.

    What is the difference between LSI words and long tail keywords?
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    • Profile picture of the author freemen14
      Originally Posted by AFI View Post

      Thank you.

      What is the difference between LSI words and long tail keywords?

      I'm not totally sure but I know that I use LSO words as blog post ideas and titles.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by AFI View Post

      Thank you.

      What is the difference between LSI words and long tail keywords?
      Long-tail keywords are those that generally refer to more specific variations of a "shorter tail" keyword.

      Take the word "ball"...

      As you move out on the long tail, you might find

      rubber ball
      12" rubber ball
      red 12" rubber ball
      ACME red 12" rubber ball

      and so on.

      LSI words are those which help the search engines tell whether, when you use the word "ball", you mean a round sphere used in many games or a fancy dance party.

      LSI words can be long-tail words, and vice versa, even though they are different concepts.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArgusTargus
    LSI: "Latent Semantic Indexing".

    They are related keywords, that may or may not have the exact same word; but mean similar or in the region of the primary keyword. A good webdesign should have pages in related keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Kind of, with the explanation of LSI.

      Unless you are reading a statistics blog, you are probably reading someone's interpretation of a report of an abstract of another article about someone's opinion about what LSI really means.

      What it does is help a computer sorting through text create a statiscal model of what correlations would reasonably be expected to be found in another document of a statistically congruent nature.

      A computer running search queries through a particular set of documents can process arbitrary text characters as well as words because it is a mathematical model instead of a syntactic one.

      For Turing fans this may not make any difference.

      If your keyword phrase is dog training, then a document with that word in it could also be expected to contain character strings that have been found in other documents with dog training in it.

      This means that your text could contain words like (for instance)

      sit
      down
      bowl
      treat
      stay
      fetch
      snack
      back
      doggy
      pet
      fetch

      and a lot of other words like that. Not just the words that show up in the adwords tool.

      Those other keyword phrases, like dog breeds, can show up in a longish article on dog training but are probably not as relevant as a simple word like "fetch".

      What this idea gives you is a lot more keyword phrases to choose to include in creating your content.

      More choice, hooray.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
        A long tail keyword phrase is a term used to describe phrases which come from the long tail of a frequency distribution graph like this:



        If you were searching for widgets, that would be the most common search term and would be found over in the green part. That green area could also include terms like blue widget, red widget, and would comprise most of the search volume.

        As the number of searches tails off into the yellow section, typically (but not necessarily) this would elongate the search string with modifiers:

        size 14 blue widgets
        no deposit no return blue widget store in california

        And also terms like:
        wigdets

        The idea is that in volume the total number of searches might be as much in the yellow part as the green part or at least enough to make it worthwhile, but that each individual longtail keyword phrase would not get the same volume of searches.

        LSI keywords could be longtails but not necessarily.

        In creating content, when people advise targeting longtail keywords (low hanging fruit) keywords, they mean that these are probably easier to rank well for. And that if you have a bunch of them on individual pages, or a bunch of them on a single larger page, you might in total get a lot of traffic.

        Maybe even more than a site which is ranked highly for a non-longtail keyword.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Hocking
          LSI keywords are related to and support your main keyword


          If you are trying to rank for the term Gardening.
          Google would expect to see LSI keywords like shovel, flower, mulch, hoe, etc,

          LSI keywords help Google believe you page is really about gardening and not just page focused on one keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    Originally Posted by AFI View Post

    I was reading a blog and they were talking about "LSI words" but never really explained what they were. Anyone? :confused:
    I wrote a 26 page book on Latent Semantic Indexing/Analysis.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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      LSI keywords are a way to make "SEO'd articles" even crappier.
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by Dave Rodman View Post

        LSI keywords are a way to make "SEO'd articles" even crappier.
        What do you mean by this?

        Search engines are evolving. It is important to know this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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        Originally Posted by cosmokid View Post

        No. LSI keywords are synonyms, which most people use naturally when they speak and write. Getting to use these in an article and knowing that Google is getting smarter about seeing these words as being related to your main keywords is great. It allows writers to write like people instead of frickin' robots and, instead of being PUNISHED by Google for not inserting our exact keyword fifteen thousand times in the article, we are actually REWARDED for writing in a more natural, "human" style.

        That said - I still have yet to see that Google is doing LSI very well. Articles and blog posts I've written using more traditional keyword optimization still outperform my more LSI/synonym-based writing.

        But maybe things are heading in the right direction.
        Your post illustrates my point. You talk about it being the a more "natural human style". Natural means you write based on the topic and the related keywords will naturally appear. You talk about "LSI/synonym based writing" as if it's a formula.

        Which is why I said it makes crappy "SEO'd" articles even crappier. Once a writer thinks that writing "LSI Articles" makes them more valuable, it makes their writing more crappy.

        I immediately rule out writers that talk about SEO. If I give you a topic if "How to make a homemade Wasp Trap", I want the BEST CONTENT ON THAT TOPIC. If you do that, you'll have all the related keywords you need. No formula necessary.
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  • Profile picture of the author Always-A-Warrior
    1. Go to Google Search and add keyword(s) ... click.
    2. On left column, find Wonder Wheel and click.
    3. Those keywords are used for creating good LSI layout.

    or use Google Wonder Wheel Scraper

    Enjoy!
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