The Right Way To Find Dropshippers

by Dave Rodman Banned
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I've seen some posts here that asked about dropshipping/importing/starting a store. Here are my tips in case you are interested. I'll start with the ones that seem to come up more.

Finding Suppliers--This seems to be the biggest mystery surrounding starting online stores. People talk about suppliers like they are super-secret, super-exclusive, and their default mode is to NOT do business with you. Remember, your money is green! And also remember, most of their customers are likely small businesses as well...so it's not like they're dealing with Walmart, Best Buy, Target, and then YOU.

Start with the market you want to enter. Assess the competition. And then look for suppliers...a few tips for finding them.

a) Find the product you want to sell and call the manufacturer to ask for distributors.
b) Avoid the words "Wholesale" when doing searches. Opt for "distributor".
c) You want to deal with companies that work ONLY with resellers. "Trade Only" is what you're looking for. Retail shops with wholesale prices are not distributors.
d) Use McCrae and other business directories to find suppliers. Beware, the search features on those kinda suck.
e) Definitely look for trade shows. And you don't even have to go to them..just find the websites and look at the exhibitors list. If it sounds like a wholesaler, look for their website. Remember, they aren't necessarily in the business of selling to the public so their websites usually aren't optimized.

Finding Dropshippers--This is an even bigger "secret" that most people don't realize. Most people start backwards. They find dropshippers and then choose from their products. BIG MISTAKE. First find the suppliers, real suppliers, AND THEN you ask them if they dropship after you establish a little rapport. These companies do not want to deal with Ebay sellers so don't lead with those questions. Tell them you are a retail operation, tell them you're interesting in purchasing from them, and then ask for a catalog and price list. BOOM. Most WILL charge a dropship fee of $5 or so, but that's the price you pay.

And for the record, I am in a number of markets. All my suppliers dropship...ALL OF THEM. And these suppliers are the leaders in that market. And guess what? None of them are listed in the WWB directory or Saleshoo. I'm sure you can guess why.

A Couple Sneaky Tricks:

1) A VERY simple way to determine competition is this. Find the leader in the market and place an order. Wait a couple weeks or a month, place another order. Most shopping cart software is sequential and to see how many orders they took over that period, just take the difference.

2) If you suspect your competition dropships and you wanna know their sources, just order the product from them. Get the return address and then do a reverse search on the address. Simple.


More Nuts/Bolts stuff:

Evaluating Keywords--Most people know to do this already so I won't get into it. But obviously, you're looking for more buying keywords.

Evaluating Competition--Again, same thing here. The good news is that with e-commerce stores, most people DO NOT spend much time on SEO. So if you do it, and do it consistently, then you'll be far ahead.

1) More than 15 products? Get a real shopping cart. There are TONS of good ones out there. I personally like X-cart, Shopsite, or Yahoo Stores. People can probably name tons of other decent ones. But if you have a lot of products, you don't want to mess with something like 1shoppingcart where all you're getting is a "buy" button. WAY WAY WAY too hard to manage.

2) Design Matters---Think about it, you're getting someone to pull out their card. Trust matters. And plus, the bar has been raised in the last several years. Spend the $1-$2K and get a nice design.

3) Use Your IM Skills---Little things like upsells, email marketing, save a sale scripts, coupons, etc are all the equivalent of printing money. You would be amazed at how effectively these things work. In almost every market i'm in, I have a free PDF that I gave away that opts in the prospect. And every month, I send out a monthly deal that is exclusive to my list. This is ontop of email blasts I do. Easy stuff.

4) Work with your suppliers---Suppliers have specials every month. Pay attention to them and take advantage. Last month, one of my suppliers had a "Buy 2, get 1 free" deal on a $300 product. Needless to say, I took full advantage and sold them for cost in order to cash in on the free product. They do this stuff all the time so you have to pay attention.

5) Try and use your own shipping account---This is a BIG hidding profit center. UPS has "stated rates" for anyone with an account. THe more volume you do, the better customer you become. And when you're a good customer, you get rebates. With UPS, it's not tough to get 25% discounts on everything you ship once you start doing some volume. So you charge your customer the stated rate and you essentially make 25% on shipping costs. Or test just lowering shipping prices. Either way, lots of options.

6) Work with suppliers part 2---Just like affiliate managers, sales reps have the ability to work with you. Set a target of sales to hit before your dropship charges are waived. Say, do $1k per week in purchases and they'll waive your fee. Or just ask for better pricing...they CAn do that. Especially if you're highlighting it in an email blast to your customers.

7) Market Smart---Do you have a dropship fee? Well, the easiest way to combat that is by increasing the order value in order to make it less significant. So make some compelling offers as an upsell. For instance, if you're selling Camcorders (not recommended) and you'll incur a $5 dropship fee. Take the most popular other product to go along with it, like a carrying case, discount it (but leave $5 profit) and then offer it as an exclusive upsell. That will absorb your dropship fee.

8) Use Coupons Smart---If your average order size is $20, then give people a coupon for orders OVER $25. You want the order size to increase.

9) Don't worry about buying from China until you actually are selling something. You sell products first, improve margins later.
#dropshippers #find
  • Profile picture of the author roderick
    Good post very interesting
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikee17
    I recommend WorldWideBrands. I've personally know Chris Malta of WorldWideBrands for nearly a decade. Very honest, trustworthy, and has a great product.

    They have a membership where you can find just about anything you want and have it dropshipped.

    Just be sure to check eBay "street prices" against the wholesale price.

    Also, pick odd-ball , non-commodity items so lessen your competition.

    Another great source is to look for manufacturers and distributors directly at
    ThomasNet.com

    I've sold over 1500 refurbished dropshipped dehumidifiers on eBay. My source wasn't on anyone's list. I had to explain the concept of dropshipping to him! LOL :-)

    The result so I had no competition and made a KILLING.

    Refurbished, scratched & dented, even broken items sell VERY well on eBay.
    You can try finding local companies that get customer returns that are missing a screw, scratched, or has some other minor problem that doesn't affect the functioning of the item. For example, my brother picked up a bunch of scratched electrical panels from a company that couldn't sell them to their professional electricians, but for the do-it-yourselfer home guy they were perfect!

    You gotta be VERY careful about back-orders on eBay. That's when you sell the item but then your supplier is out of stock! ACK!! That's a scary thing. Check out the ebook called "12 Killer Dropship SECRETS For eBay Sellers". It's a classic "street smart" ebook on how to avoid the common problems with dropshipping

    ...Mikee17

    Founder: AuctionTNT.com and PlatinumPowerSeller.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel J
    I'm a big fan of Worldwide brands (and a member) but Mikee17 is absolutely right... finding your OWN supplier who doesn't deal with hundreds of other retailers is the best way to go since it lowers the competition. I use Worldwide Brands for all of the great information, but have had the most success finding suppliers on my own and as a result I am supporting my family entirely with internet based income.
    Daniel J.
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  • Profile picture of the author Recession_Proof
    Dave you are THE MAN--50 GRAND! I can see you know what you are talking about. It's great when people put together helpful posts. Especially when they are pretty much dead on accurate. Could not have said it better myself.

    Just to drive home one of your points, even though I wish you would have left it out ( giving away the family secrets and what not)

    Evaluating Competition--Again, same thing here. The good news is that with e-commerce stores, most people DO NOT spend much time on SEO. So if you do it, and do it consistently, then you'll be far ahead.
    SEO, SEO, SEO for your e-store is a MUST. And if you aren't doing SEO on your product images you are losing a TON of traffic. So many people leave the ALT tag blank or fill it with something that is totally useless.

    OMG, please stop! Why don't people do it besides maybe not knowing the value....LAZINESS, PURE UNADULTERATED LAZINESS!!!

    No kidding for one of my websites I promoted only 4 laptops, very little content, and great, actually perfect SEO for the ALT tags, and all the images. Within 10 days my Alexa rank was below 300,000 down from like 15,000,000. And I was selling at least 8 per a day.

    Attention all SERP and Page Rank nerds :p. Please hold your flame throwers, because we all know that Alexa can have some BS analytics. But none the less, it's still a good indicator.

    So hop to it all you lazybones and optimize those images!!!
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