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13 years ago

Originally Posted by LifestyleTrans

I put up my product on Clickbank a few weeks ago and have so far had over 40+ people promote it, with quite a lot of HOPs.
I've tested my product for months before putting it up and it converts pretty well for me. But, for my affiliates, for some reason it isn't converting at all. In fact, none of the hundreds of HOPs in total they've sent me have converted to any sales.
Any thoughts on why this is and what I can do to improve this?
I can imagine if they aren't getting conversions, they will stop promoting it obviously.
I also have provided some great affiliate tools for them.

? is the product maverick money makers / your affiliate link thats in your sig ?

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- tryinhere 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by LifestyleTrans
  
  No, my product isn't related to IM.
  
  then it might pay to read the forum rules just a heads up is all buddy
  
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JennSpencerIM

13 years ago

Do you know where they are getting their traffic from? That really depends on how well its going to convert...maybe they are using bad traffic sources if they don't know what they are doing! Just a thought. How many hops so far? I think you'd need hundreds before a conversion...at least at first probably.

ps - yeah take the aff link out of your sig asap!

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Ryan Even

13 years ago

I get a ton of people that promote my clickbank products via junk traffic methods like "traffic exchanges" so they'll never make a sale. Are affiliates complaining about the conversion rate, or are you just noticing lots of hops without sales? If it's you noticing it you may just have some affiliates sending junk traffic.

The thing I hate most about it is the fact it brings your overall conversion rate way down.

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TBInternetMarketing 13 years ago

Yes it all depends how targeted the traffic is. Why don't you put together a video in your affiliate section showing them how you do it if you say its converting well for you. Ideally then what you want is your 'army' doing exactly what you are doing.
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WillR

13 years ago

1. I agree with the above poster. Get rid of the affiliate link from your signature or you risk getting banned - especially now as two of us have told you.

2. I would not worry what my affiliates are doing, as such. Before you start promoting this product and putting it in the Clickbank marketplace for affiliates to find, you should already have tested this product with things like PPC traffic and made sure it converts and turns a profit. You say you have already done this, great!.

I might also point out that there are a fair few clickbank directory sites out there like cbengine that list all the products from the Clickbank marketplace. They often have a section where newer products are displayed and I'd imagine a good deal of affiliates look at newer products to see if they can pick up a gold nugget before others do. All these directory sites send traffic back to your product by an affiliate link as well. So you may be getting hops from all those sorts of sites if your product is fairly new.

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247Copywriter

13 years ago

If it's converting your end but not their's, it's likely to be the quality of traffic they're sending to the offer. In other words, it's not targeted traffic they're sending. In other words, the wrong people are being sent to the offer... your Clickbank product.

Which tells me that most likely your affiliates don't know too much about the importance of sending laser targeted traffic to an offer.

If the wrong people are being sent to your product, is it little wonder that they're not getting any sales?

If this is the problem, how can you rectify this situation? What can you do today to help your affiliates promote this to the right people which in turn will help your business too?

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WillR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by 247Copywriter

If this is the problem, how can you rectify this situation? What can you do today to help your affiliates promote this to the right people which in turn will help your business too?

That's what he's asking...

Clickbank does not allow you to know who your affiliates are. The only thing you can do is to set up an affiliate page with as much information as possible to help those affiliates who may not know what they are doing. They may see the page, they may not - it's out of your control.

Besides, as another poster mentioned, there's a lot of different traffic out there. CPV and PPV are very popular at the moment and I would say that is what these affiliates are using. This type of traffic will take much larger numbers of hops before you see any conversions. It can still work out profitable for the affiliates because of how inexpensive this traffic is. But instead of expecting 1 or 2 sales from every 100 hops, with this type of traffic you might expect a sale or two every 1,000 - 2,000 hops. It just depends how well they are targeting that traffic.

At the end of the day, there is nothing you can do about this. The best thing to do is stop worrying about these affiliates and spend your time attracting more established affiliates who are already doing well in your market or similar markets. 20% of your affiliates will make you 80% of your profit. Concentrate on getting that top 20% and the rest will take care of itself.

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TylerF

13 years ago

Are they sending qualified traffic?
Some might be using CPV traffic so the
hops may seem a lot.

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Simu :P

13 years ago

Hey there,

The sales depends on the traffic you get.

While testing, you must have got targetted traffic, which the affiliates are not able to bring.

Try track your traffic, the source and all.

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Chris Sorrell 13 years ago

Are you affiliates promoting it to the right countries. For instance if they're running ppc campaigns they may just be running it internationally and getting a lot of traffic from india and the philipinnes where people may be interested in what you're selling but don't have a debit/credit card to make a purchase and so you get loads of visitors and no sales. I've made this mistake myself quite a lot and it's cost me. Specify that you only want traffic directed from the english speaking countries and maybe germany and scandinavia.
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Dunder

13 years ago

Are these affiliates that you recruited yourself or are they just unknown affiliates?

Are you getting multiple hits from the same cb nickname, or just just single hits per nickname?

If they are all just random, it could be that it is people checking out your product via directory sites as WillR mentioned above.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by LifestyleTrans

Any thoughts on why this is and what I can do to improve this?

Difficult to add much to Will's excellent and accurate reply above ...

As you've already provided great affiliate tools and information, it isn't easy to help existing affiliates. (My own guess, from what you've said, is that you may have a bunch of affiliates trying to promote the product by direct-linking, without proper pre-selling and without list-building. If so, there probably isn't really a way to enable them to make sales.)

But, for the future, you can try to ensure that your sales page is "pro-affiliate friendly", to try to attract some better ones. Successful affiliates typically have very different selection criteria from "affiliates in general", being very interested in the sales page but barely interested in the "affiliate tools" at all.

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- Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by LifestyleTrans
  
  I've set up an opt-in on my affiliate page, so I'd imagine the serious affiliates would opt-in and I can then communicate with them.
  
  Whether the serious affiliates get as far as looking at the affiliate-page at all depends on the sales page.
  
  With over 13,500 active products to choose from, serious affiliates tend to look quickly at sales pages, and reject quickly, if they see anything that rules a product out for them.
  
  The more serious/professional/successful an affiliate is, the less likely they are to be greatly influenced by the affiliate page. It's very counter-intuitive, I know; but it's so. The affiliate-tools are more important to the other 90% of affiliates who collectively bring in only 10% of the affiliate-referred sales.
  
  The single most important thing you can do, to attract serious, pro-affiliates, is to have a sales page which includes nothing they reject. Whatever else you do, to try to promote your product to serious affiliates, if there are any mistakes on that front, it will be of small/questionable value.
  
  Don't imagine that many pro-affiliates are going to decide whether or not to promote your product according to what's on the affiliate page. I'm "just saying".
  
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mikemcmillan

13 years ago

The other thing I'd look at is the relative volume of clicks you are getting from various affiliates. For example: Suppose you get 500 hops a day that come from 100 affiliates, so on average you are getting 5 hops per affiliate per day. In general, the people who are somehow getting you a handful of clicks per day are not going to be sending you much buying traffic. I wouldn't worry about that much.

On the other hand, if I saw that one single affiliate had sent 800 hops to your site in a day--and none of them converted, that would worry me more. In general, a lot of the affiliates sending just a few hops a day don't do a good job of pre-selling and are probably getting you traffic from an ill-conceived, shoddy-looking pre-sell or review pages.

People that promote for your product by hitting their list with a promotion probably send you a higher percentage of buyer traffic because if they are sharp with their email marketing they have pre-qualified the traffic at least to some extent.

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