When did spammers lose class?

I used to get similar "attacks" on an old Hotmail email address I used.

Since switching to Gmail I haven't had any problems like that.

Maybe I'm not being found by the right lists anymore, or maybe Googles spam protection is as good as they say it is. Whatever the answer, I'm happy

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

My question is ....

When did spammers ever have any class?

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LarryHaywood 13 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

My question is ....

When did spammers ever have any class?

I'm with sbucciarel on this one. Don't recall them ever having any.
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sanssecret

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Y'know,

I always thought spammers had a little bit of tact, a little bit of "class"... At least they usually gave a somewhat disgusting message along with there spam.

Lately I've been hit hard with a spam attack, at about 100 e-mails a minute, a couple times a week... These minutes pass by fast, but I look in the spam box -- then it's over.

But whats interesting, is all these e-mails are, is no subject, and then a random URL... When did spammers lose class? They used to give us some BS about what the URL was about....

Now, there just spamming addresses. But anyway, thanks for the 100 e-mails a minute.

Caleb

You must hang around with a higher class of spammers. I've never yet had spam from anyone with any class.

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Yep.

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jasonmorgan

13 years ago

Perhaps they have been split testing and found that a link only generates better results than a lot of gibberish.

Don't be so quick to judge what you don't understand.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

I mean at least they put some work in, when they wrote up a little spam about what the link was, something for me to laugh at in my spam box, but now -- well, it's just tactless

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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

1. Spammers lost any class they might have had back when those immigration lawyers sent the first email blast to a list of random emails scraped from the Internet. In other words, with the first spamming...

2. What you and others may be seeing is a kind of "value enhancement exercise." Lists of live email addresses are far more valuable than simple lists of addresses - five to ten times more. So spammers use a variety of tactics to sort their lists into active emails and other, and sell accordingly.

Some will include a link, others will seek to avoid spam filters by only including a few characters of text. If the email doesn't bounce, it's considered live.
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- sylviad 13 years ago
  
  Look at all the time they're saving by not bothering to jazz it up. Let's them pump out so many more thousands of letters which means, more chance something will stick.
  
  Can't believe we're actually wasting time with this topic.
  
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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

I mean at least they put some work in, when they wrote up a little spam about what the link was, something for me to laugh at in my spam box, but now -- well, it's just tactless

Caleb

This doesn't actually surprise you, does it?

Spam is always tactless, regardless of entertainment value. If a group of mimes suddenly burst into my home to perform a routine while I was eating dinner, then that would be tactless...no matter how good their act was.

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E. Brian Rose 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

If a group of mimes suddenly burst into my home to perform a routine while I was eating dinner...

That would AWESOME! I love dinner theaters!
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- Dan C. Rinnert 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose
  
  That would AWESOME! I love dinner theaters!
  
  And mimes are quiet so you can still carry on a conversation. Best of both worlds.
  
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Dan C. Rinnert

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Lately I've been hit hard with a spam attack, at about 100 e-mails a minute, a couple times a week... These minutes pass by fast, but I look in the spam box -- then it's over.

But whats interesting, is all these e-mails are, is no subject, and then a random URL... When did spammers lose class? They used to give us some BS about what the URL was about....

Wonder if you've been getting the same ones I have.

I did some investigating on the domains, and they were all owned by the same company. When I dug deeper, I found that this company owns thousands of domain names, and there's at least a couple companies doing this, which all trace back to the same servers, so it may be one company running under different names and just spamming the heck out of places.

But, yeah, I go through periods where I will get several hundred spam messages a day, and they all come from different mail accounts, but, though they promote many URLs, you do see several repeats.

Very annoying. If I didn't buy after the first spam, I'm not going to after the 800th.

I wonder if what they do is just buy lists and compile them without checking for duplicates at all.

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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

Dan, most of these companies charge by the number of messages sent, so checking for duplicates is actually counterproductive for them. Buy, scrape, it's all the same to them, unless you're willing to pay for a cleaned list of live addresses.

But then you're getting too close to legit for most of these crooks...
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Bill Farnham 13 years ago

Caleb,

I told Caliban that wasn't a good idea...:p

Fwiw, years ago our business used to get thousands of spam emails a day we had to filter through to get to the legitimate orders we received via email.

Count your blessings. This crap is hardly new, and it's only a fraction of what it used to be prior to the Can-Spam Act of 2003.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

It was weird... I logged in at about 9:00AM one morning - guess they just got on the job too, cause as I went into my box, I was getting 50 a minute - it's insane... I think there sending it to one of my catch all addresses - if I really want I can make that a "real address' with its own google apps box, and no more spam

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erikmacklin

13 years ago

spammers just dont have any class....

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Raja Kamil

13 years ago

this funny....

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Matt Bard

13 years ago

"Hello,

I realize that you didn't request this email and that it is taking up valuable space and time, but unfortunately for you, I really don't care".

"You see, I am a greedy *******, oh, please excuse my language so sorry".

"If you would be so kind as to click on that mysterious link below so that I can have an even more enjoyable weekend celebration then I will remember how stupi... um, kind you are and I will send more...uh, think of you fondly".

"Please look for my next spa...uh, communication with you in a few minutes".

"Thank you and have a pleasant day".

Yours persistently, I.M. Mailmaster the third.

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BrianTerr

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Maiden

"Hello,

I realize that you didn't request this email and that it is taking up valuable space and time, but unfortunately for you, I really don't care".

"You see, I am a greedy *******, oh, please excuse my language so sorry".

"If you would be so kind as to click on that mysterious link below so that I can have an even more enjoyable weekend celebration then I will remember how stupi... um, kind you are and I will send more...uh, think of you fondly".

"Please look for my next spa...uh, communication with you in a few minutes".

"Thank you and have a pleasant day".

Yours persistently, I.M. Mailmaster the third.

I would so click that link. Lucky I have a good spam filter.

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Hopp

13 years ago

I know we all hate SPAM and would never engage in the practice, but that doesn't mean we can't learn from what spammers do. Obviously they get some results or they would keep doing it.

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Dan C. Rinnert

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hopp

I know we all hate SPAM and would never engage in the practice, but that doesn't mean we can't learn from what spammers do. Obviously they get some results or they would keep doing it.

They don't have to get results on the same level as the rest of us. If you're selling a $100 product, get 10,000 visitors a month and have a 0.01% conversion rate, that's one sale per month. Not good.

But, if you have a 0.01% conversion rate, sell a $100 product and send out 1,000,000 eMails, your gross is $10,000.

When you deal with the large numbers that spammers do, you don't need to have good results or decent results. You can do quite well with really, really poor conversion rates. Whereas, for us, if we get 10k visitors in a month and only make one sale, we're trying to figure out what we're doing wrong.

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Michael Shook 13 years ago

Thing is, if they ever sent me links for something cool, you know like cheap tickets to a dinner theater performance of mimes pretending to eat spam which has been laced with "male medications" in front of the barrister's office while their were waiting to get their wire transfers, then I might be interested.
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jamjar919

13 years ago

Shall we devise an elaborate caste system for spammers?

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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jamjar919

Shall we devise an elaborate caste system for spammers?

Sure. We can start with Worthless Scum and work our way down the scale from there...
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E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

Say what you will about these guys, but if it wasn't for them, I never would have known that I won the UK Lottery or that I could get Viagra for just 99 cents.

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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

...or that I could get Viagra for just 99 cents.

Any way you could forward that link to me?

The one John McCabe sent me just went to a Fish and Tackle website.

I guess that turns HIM on...:rolleyes:

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JohnMcCabe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Any way you could forward that link to me?

The one John McCabe sent me just went to a Fish and Tackle website.

I guess that turns HIM on...:rolleyes:

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DireStraits

13 years ago

When did politicians become liars?

When did child molesters become disgusting?

When did Tom Cruise become batcrap insane?

All these questions share something in common: their answers ...

... and the answer is: they always were.

In the same vein, spammers were always classless; they never any to lose.

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E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DireStraits

When did politicians become liars?

When did child molesters become disgusting?

When did Tom Cruise become batcrap insane?

All these questions share something in common: their answers ...

... and the answer is: they always were.

In the same vein, spammers were always classless; they never any to lose.

You look like Jake Gyllenhaal

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DireStraits 13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

You look like Jake Gyllenhaal

LOL - thanks, I guess. I get Keanu Reeves a lot, too.

(Jake's not a $cientoologist too, is he? :rolleyes: )
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