Forced To Leave Paypal

I can't even email Paypal US. I'm automatically redirected, due to IP, to the Mexico operation, whom I don't want to talk to. Plus, I tried using a proxy to get through. Didn't work when it hit the secure server.

It's not about having an address, I think, as much as it's locked to the IP. At least, that's what it seems to be doing.

Rather than fight with Paypal to take my money, I'll just change processors. That seems to be the easiest fix. Now, just have to figure out who to replace them with. And THAT is the question of the moment. WHO?

Bill

Look for a US-based proxy. That should do it. If not, tell PayPal that you are a teacher on sabbatical in Mexico and you need access to your account. If that does not work tell them that you are a traveling salesman and you need access to your account while abroad, Mexico for example.

TomG.

When did Mexico annex San Diego?

Good question, Chris. The real maddening part is the incapability to contact Paypal US via email. They'll only accept email off their site and it, as usual, keeps tripping the MX redirect via IP.

What other processors are people using that is "Paypal-type?" Other than CB and 2CO?

Bill

Bill:

Why quibble? Just take $5 of your money, open up a Mexican bank account, and use that on your paypal account.

Problem solved.

Here here! Just open up a Mexican Bank Account and keep on keeping on. I have a bank account tied to my pay pal account and have never really used it.

Normally I purchase everything I need with my debit card and when I have to, use the atm to suck our $400.00 per day minimums.

Not that easy, Floyd. And it takes $100 to open an account here. Simply put, I don't care to have any Mexican operation handling any of my funds. That comes from experience. The only thing I use down here is a debit card and ATMs. Keeps an extra hand outta the pot.

Bill

bill

after reading your post i can really understand your problem. I moved to portugal this year from England and i would have to have a portuguese bank account in order to satisfy paypal.

Even though ive been here since June i prefer to keep my bank accounts in england mainly because the bank charges here for bank transfers and cash withdrawals are huge.

The way ive got round it is by keeping my paypal account in england and as my bank account is also registered at my friends address paypal are fine with it.

What about using an address in the USA say a family members or something similar.

If i didnt have paypal i would put everything on clickbank though it does mean no transfers though.

ive had problems with paypal in the past and there not the best situation but there really isnt many alternatives.

god i wish there was and i bet theres lots of warriors that agree with me. Ask the warriors how many times theyve had there accounts stopped or suspended cos they were doing well with sales.

if you need any more advise with paypal please PM me!


samantha
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Getting around the IP address issue should be easy with a paid proxy service like anonymizer. I ran into the IP issue when ordering online from Asia over several years time, and it shouldn't have any trouble dealing with secure servers.

Art

I think we're all assuming you've already called them on the telephone and spoken to a real person. Have you?

You have to understand that Paypal are doing it only for client security and to avoid fraud, but I can understand your predicament and that it probably, well...sucks. The worst thing is that Paypal are huge and have very little competition that are as big as they are and can do pretty much whatever they want these days.

2 Checkout takes PayPal payments, so that is your best option. Since you already use 2CO, your search should be over.

It seems so odd that they would do that. I live in Canada and hope that they do not have any intentions on doing that to Canada also.

Thanks for the little insight on this.

Don't worry about it, I'm also living in Mexico and I am not Mexican.

Just open an account here in Mexico with Banamex (It's actually Citibank), they charge you 30 pesos a month and nothing else, everything else is free (30 pesos is the equivalent to $3 USD I believe) and you can use PayPal without any problems.

Then call up your US bank and order a transfer of funds to "feed" the Mexican account, all you need to open it are 1,000 pesos (about $100 USD) and you do not need to keep that balance neither.

Why is this a smart thing to do? There are no taxes here in Mexico for bank accounts with a balance of $25,000 pesos or below ($2,500 USD) and even if you do exceed that balance like in my case, they only take 2% off from the exceeding amount.

I am amazed I have seen alot of post on how to try and get around the problem... but I have not seen one that mentioned paypal may be required under law to do what they are doing..

I am no laywer and will give no advice here as such (please do not take this the wrong way it is only a possible opinion of why paypal does what they do) but if you are having money handled in the US and taking money off a debit card in mexico then that could be considered money laundering. Again this is only an opinion and I am not saying youare doing this.

Paypal does have a great deal ofcrap to deal with when it comes to governments, FCC, FTC, IRS, and many others..

I think there are 2 post here about just open a mexico bank account.. I would have to agree with them.. Instead of trying to beat around the issue just solve it by doing what they request..

James

Google Checkout.

If you are determined to get a physical US address, you can get a box at a UPS store which provides you with an actual street address rather than a PO Box number.

Let's just say, it's a case of "principle." While Paypal has taken my money for years, they now have made the decision for me that I must obtain a Mexican bank account. This, I refuse to do. And I have my reasons.

The only thing a person seems to have control over is their own personal funds. We elect who gets what and why. While my leaving Paypal won't cause them to lose any sleep, it will make me feel much better and I have not been forced into something I never wanted in the first place.

I spent last night reading through 2COs website, as I haven't used them for "years." I needed to know what they were up to these days. And, actually, with the debit card promo their running, it behoved me to open a new account with them.

So, Paypal is out and 2CO is in. The individual freedom of choice is still dear to me and I exercise it every chance I get. In this day and age of tight money, I applaude a company that's doing so good it can afford to drive customers away. However, there's one dollar they'll never see again. Mine. Paypal decided they could "control" me. They were wrong.

All the talk about getting a US address was non-secuitor since blockage is by redirect via IP. I finally got them on the phone yesterday. It must be a call center becuase the dufus I was talking to had no clue. A wasted international call.

So, I'm back in business again!

Bill

Without trying to be abrasive, it seems to me that much of the answers here have gone toward telling Bill what he "should" do instead of simply answering his question. His question is simply, "Who do you recommend other than Paypal?". But it seems that providing background to his story has caused everyone to focus on the background rather than his actual question.

Bill, I've been in network marketing for years so the landscape of IM has changed enough that I won't bother with my recommendations. They may or may not be integrated enough for your needs. Google Checkout is simple enough depending on what you're doing. 2CO (which I think you mentioned having used before) seems to do well, too.

Anyway, best of success to you in finding a Paypal alternative.

Tony

Thanks, Tony,

I'm glad someone read the original question. I've opted to go with 2CO since they have an ancillary offering that takes care of what I had with Paypal.

And, as to why I live here, it's simple. I have no family in the US and all my family, on my wife's side, is down here. Yes, I decided to change locations. And now that I can look back, I see things I didn't see when I was living there. It's eye opening to look at your country from the outside. There are pluses and minuses to living down here, that's for sure.

Let me ask a question. Would you want all your online income locked into a deteriorating currency? Me neither. Ergo, no Paypal bank account down here. They say "you WILL accept your funding in Pesos!" I don't think so. That sets you up for a loss of value.

Anyhow, problem is now taken care of. Thanks, all. And, no problem, Michael. I do it myself, all the time. LOL

Bill

Hi Bill,

Glad to hear the problem has been solved.

It would be interesting to learn what some of your observations of the US are, now that you are in Mexico.

All the best,
Michael

Nope. It would set off a firestorm in this forum. Seen it happen too many times before.

Bill

Let's change gears here for a moment. I know there are people here that use 2CO regularly. I've done business with some of you.

Is there anthing in the "inner workings" of using 2CO that you'd convey to a new user? Learning a new operation is both maddening and fun so I am trying to lessen the maddening part and expand on the fun part. Also, is there a ebook anywhere that describes using 2CheckOut?

Thanks,

Bill