Affiliate's earning £100,000 in ONE MONTH!

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Being an online marketing manager I get to look after many of the best affiliates in the UK, this is a great opportunity and it allows me to take a look and analyse my own online marketing hobby and the real full-time affiliates which make virtual/physical companies 90% of their money day after day.

One thing strikes me though, and I thought I may as well share it with everyone here. These "top" affiliates that are earning £100k per month are not doing it alone.

These affiliates are generally media companies, and although they may only have one or two employees they are full-time employees who are all very experienced/trained in the online marketing field.

The key to hitting £100,000 per month is by re-investing in what is working. It's simple! These affiliates use paid methods to make this turnover but they don't just chuck money anywhere, they use proven networks, proven campaigns, they use the information given to them, claw off every piece of analytical detail they can put their hands on, they follow the market and work with it.

Paid traffic methods they use are:

Media Buying - Yes, media buying is huge in the "real" world of online marketing, now I say "real" world because seriously...selling eBooks through Clickbank isn't going to make you £100,000 in stable revenue every month. I understand "some" (0.01%) of people will succeed doing this but honestly now, most affiliates definitely won't.

Too many marketers get wrapped up in this fake atmosphere that they will bank big if they just keep promoting the next forex software, the latest weight loss eBook or the latest fitness training video guide...but this is all bs!

The hype is built through the 1% which have HUGE lists, are in their own networks which they share their resources with in exchange for resources of their contacts/friends.

The hype is also built through the vendors who generally do bank big, but this is because they are in these networks, and because they rely on numbers. The numbers are the affiliates, there are thousands, tens of thousands of affiliates promoting eBooks on Clickbank and similar affiliate networks everyday and they rely on each and everyone of these making at least one sale promoting their product.

But wait...if these affiliates are just making 1 or 2 sales each then that's probably just $20 or $40 for the affiliate? Yes, that's true...as I am trying to highlight most affiliates don't make THAT much money at all.

This isn't to say you should stop, heck no! Keep going all the way until you reach your goals, and then move these goals further and keep going! Just don't limit your self to being an affiliate, or at least don't limit yourself to being an affiliate for Clickbank and for eBooks and other digital products and don't flutter your earnings on expensive cocktails and uneccesary gadgets, re-invest and use paid methods of getting traffic to bank big.

- Seriously now, paid traffic completely dominates free methods of traffic it's just 99% of affiliates or marketers don't have the money, experience and time to spend making paid campaigns really work effectively...because if they did, they would be rich by now.

OK, this is getting huge I could speak so much more...but let's hush now.

Basically to summarise to reach £100,000 per month, you need capital, experience, a team, focus and support. But to succeed as a self-employed, full-time work at home marketer just try a little more to re-invest what you earn, don't become hypnotised by the crappy "make money online world", it's all Bulls**t and instead use this time/money to invest in to resources, software, paid marketing.

Don't limit yourself to digital products either because promoting physical products online generally bring you lower refund rates and higher conversion rates, with smaller commissions but more frequently.

Anyone have any questions or thoughts please share

P.S - Some of the best CPM/media networks for paid traffic:

Right Media
Adbrite
Google Double Click
AOL
ADSDAQ
AdECN
Open X
PubMatic
AdMeld
Rubicon
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    You win the truthful post of the day award. That means it will get no replies, quickly slide off page one and nobody will thank it. Oops...
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    • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
      Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

      You win the truthful post of the day award. That means it will get no replies, quickly slide off page one and nobody will thank it. Oops...

      So do you rubadubdub,

      thanks

      laughed my A** off


      Goes to show that it is much like "real" business.

      As I have found, takes reinvestment and money to make money.

      Jim


      *edit* pssst rubadub, your reverse psychology worked.
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesburke
    I'm not sure that this will be a welcome post, but it's a valid observation from one marketer's viewpoint.

    Now I'd like to hear someone present the other side of this issue.

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  • Profile picture of the author Orator
    This is a real inside view of things, I appreciate it. I never really aimed to make that much of Internet Marketing. I would really be quite content with about $12,000 a month, and think that's something I can achieve without a full team.

    Not that I don't outsource like crazy.
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    Thanks for the replies guys, I actually thought this might of been a hot topic but I think you're right, perhaps people don't realise it or want to admit it but online marketing isn't really about article marketing and pagerank. It's about capitalizing on what is working and re-investing in to further resources to help optimise and expand.

    Although there are several affiliates which I look after making over £100,000 each month and growing, oh and that's commission! There are also a number of affiliates making a very good daily income and these affiliates are just self-employed, full-time online marketers, no different to you and I.

    Most of our top affiliates are using paid methods of bringing in traffic but many started with free methods such as social media marketing and simple, long-term SEO.

    I think a lot of affiliates and marketers get stuck in their ways, perhaps addicted to exploiting free methods of traffic and don't realise there is a glass ceiling to which they 99% of these marketers won't be able to smash through, especially without re-investing, in to virtual assistants, employees, software and perhaps new assets such as websites/domains.

    One of the most guaranteed, risk-free ways of making big money being an affiliate I would believe is through building e-mail lists straight from day 1, and developing these email lists using relationship marketing to build trust, respect and authority.

    This way you have your own personal audience, your own market who are 100 times better than the average reader or site visitor, as these people should (if done right) have an emotional attachment with you, therefore they would feel more inclined to listen to what you say, or read in most cases and would trust your opinions meaning they would convert better.

    I find not enough affiliates use actual business strategies to implement in to their online businesses, whether this is because it is only a hobby, a part-time job or because you don't feel it will benefit your online marketing just try it and see.

    One strategy I never EVER see implemented is brand awareness, or the strategy behind building an online brand, an authority for which you can pull in mass traffic and sell products to. A brand is probably one of the most powerful, long-term assets a company can have, especially online when the choices that consumers have are infinite.

    I see several warriors on the forum who have established a brand from their name, by delivering high quality material and over-delivering to their customers (many of which are on the warrior forum), whether this was accidental or on purpose I always see their past customers/friends advising others (new customers, or potential new customers) to purchase products from them.

    Without realising it, these customers, (people which have been developed in to friends over time by using relationship marketing and by following simple rules to over deliver and sustain a high quality level of products) have turned in to their advertisers, their affiliates to help grow their business.

    Brand awareness is stronger than any paid traffic method, but building a brand takes a long time, huge amounts of investment in both time/money but depending on the market size you are penetrating can be done in several months or hours.

    Once again I have typed too much, let's leave it there and see what people have to say
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by willyboy104 View Post

      Thanks for the replies guys, I actually thought this might of been a hot topic but I think you're right, perhaps people don't realise it or want to admit it but online marketing isn't really about article marketing and pagerank. It's about capitalizing on what is working and re-investing in to further resources to help optimise and expand.

      Although there are several affiliates which I look after making over £100,000 each month and growing, oh and that's commission! There are also a number of affiliates making a very good daily income and these affiliates are just self-employed, full-time online marketers, no different to you and I.

      Most of our top affiliates are using paid methods of bringing in traffic but many started with free methods such as social media marketing and simple, long-term SEO.

      I think a lot of affiliates and marketers get stuck in their ways, perhaps addicted to exploiting free methods of traffic and don't realise there is a glass ceiling to which they 99% of these marketers won't be able to smash through, especially without re-investing, in to virtual assistants, employees, software and perhaps new assets such as websites/domains.
      I think you've hit the nail on the head right there. While it's perfectly alright to start off with free traffic methods, you'll most probably never make 6 figures a month with any consistency if that's all you utilize.

      Paid traffic is fast, consistent and profitable, if used properly. And media buys are probably the most scalable form of traffic there is, making it perfect for ramping up to six figures a month and beyond.

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  • Profile picture of the author JamesW
    You deserve to get a lot more replies than this as you can written two excellent posts. I can definitely relate to the idea of not wanting to spend money to make money. At the moment I make several thousand dollars a month, but this is all done with email marketing and other free methods, and I have never really thought about taking on an employee or paying for advertising, for example.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    Wow! This is an awesome post. I still find affiliate marketing to be a daunting field, but this is proof positive that you can indeed be successful. You just have to work hard and apply yourself to the right methods. No shiny buttons here, just the good ol' truth
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  • Profile picture of the author CraigC
    Great post, and couldn't be more true. Very few people will reach that level of income without having the captial to invest in the proven methods. It doesn't matter what niche you are in, what products you have, what format your products are (digital or real).
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  • Profile picture of the author redoak98012
    Willyboy,

    There are some eyeopening facts in your post and I want to thank you for disclosing a real truth that most people are not aware of, and that is that the right kind of paid advertising if done correctly is the pool that the super affiliates swim in.

    A lot of people are afraid to invest in advertising and will spend a ton of money in the long run trying to succeed with free advertising, hey for some it works but I'd be willing to bet that most people struggle with it and eventually give up.

    I understand that most IMer's don't have a giant budget for things like Google ads or most other advertising people are familiar with. But there other very little known platforms that drive targeted traffic in numbers that are staggering and have absolutely nothing to do with google. Many of these avenues can be started on a shoestring and grown over time.

    When I first learned that theres a huge opportunity to make money and drive relatively cheap traffic without needing search engines it was an absolute eye opener.

    I started by taking all the money I was spending on e-books, and guru systems and invested it in a completely different way.

    Again, thanks for sharing some reality with us, I couldn't agree with you more.
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    Thanks for this info!! really good stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
    Great post willyboy.
    Those media companies you listed for example just do not seem to cater for the small guy though.

    I am keen to read more on your outlook.
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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress

      "Although there are several affiliates which I look after making over £100,000 each month and growing, oh and that's commission!"


      Are you referring to the media buyers here working with others or individual affiliates?

      There are also a number of affiliates making a very good daily income and these affiliates are just self-employed, full-time online marketers, no different to you and I.

      Are you referring to individual income here? And what do you consider good income for these individuals?




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      • Profile picture of the author Sansfaim
        There a number of different facets here.

        I will address this one first.

        For many years I built and managed direct sales teams.

        In these teams, typically, you would find one person earning $750,000 a year, three or four earning $200,000-$300,000, six or seven earning $50,000 and 70 or 80 earning $0 - $10,000 a year.

        Internet marketing is just the same.

        About 1% earn big money, 2-3% earning good money, 5-7% earn a decent living and the rest "starve to death".

        A number of different factors come into play.

        First, people have a comfort zone and will tend to earn, in a self employed situation, what they have always earned and have a ceiling beyond which they feel very uncomfortable.

        I have personally witnessed sales people earn in a month, what they had previously earned in a year, and then earned nothing for the next eleven months to stay in their comfort zone.

        Secondly, most people do not have the self discipline necessary to be self employed.
        They come from a workplace situation where they have worked a minimum of 40 hours a week and enter self employment where it is nothing short of a miracle if they put in 5 hours a week.

        No doubt, this will raise howls of derision, by all those who claim they work every hour god sends, but still can't make a living.

        If those people would take the time and trouble to keep a log into which they made an entry every time they performed a task that took their business forward. i.e. not spending hours on forums, reading emails, playing computer games etc. they would receive an unpleasant shock.

        As I said, there are other facets to this, which I may expand on, if the need exists, but the above statements are based on over 40 years personal experience.

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        Hey LBD,

        Got your PM, unfortunately I have only 30 posts on this forum and can't reply. If you'd like shoot me an email and I will expand on my comments.

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  • Profile picture of the author George Phillip
    Media Buying requires budgets and expertise that most people do not have. Including extensive split testing and multivariate testing etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author mygold
    WoW, thats great. "Media Buying" is the attractive term to me. Can u believe that you can earn £100,000 stable revenue every month.
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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
      Originally Posted by mygold View Post

      WoW, thats great. "Media Buying" is the attractive term to me. Can u believe that you can earn £100,000 stable revenue every month.
      But think about that, with media buying you have to pay money to make money so of that $100k what is take home? What has to be paid out to buy?

      And as OP said it is usually a group working together so the pie gets a little smaller again.

      Still something to thing about if one is willing take time to learn otherwise looks like it could be an easy way to lose your shirt.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

        But think about that, with media buying you have to pay money to make money so of that $100k what is take home? What has to be paid out to buy?

        And as OP said it is usually a group working together so the pie gets a little smaller again.

        Still something to thing about if one is willing take time to learn otherwise looks like it could be an easy way to lose your shirt.
        This is something you work you way up to, you do not start doing media buys right off the bat. I know of at least several top CPA affiliates who are clearing $10,000/day NET (after advertising costs) on average doing media buys.

        Obviously you'll have to start small, and then work your way up to large scale media buys. In fact, it is not recommended that you start off doing media buys right away, even if you have the money to blow on it.

        Another little known fact about media buys is that they typically extend 30 days of credit to you, meaning that you don't have to pay for the advertising immediately like with PPC or PPV, and typically when you're at that level the CPA affiliate networks pay you either weekly or every 2-3 business days - meaning that you pay for your media buys essentially out of your profits that you've already received.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
    What kind of capital are we talking to start a campaign with most of those companies you mentioned in the OP? From my limited research, it seems 5-10K is about what you need to start.
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  • Is true!

    Analytics and buying traffic based on knowing your target demographic is going to make you a lot more money with a lot less headache. Most people who claim to be doing affiliate marketing have no idea who their market is... they just do the same old thing... make a site, put in links, then try and get free traffic. It's a recipe for failure.
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    Use money to buy MONEY! But 100000 pounds is a bit too much..
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    • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      I think you've hit the nail on the head right there. While it's perfectly alright to start off with free traffic methods, you'll most probably never make 6 figures a month with any consistency if that's all you utilize.

      Paid traffic is fast, consistent and profitable, if used properly. And media buys are probably the most scalable form of traffic there is, making it perfect for ramping up to six figures a month and beyond.

      Paul
      Yes, exactly! Free traffic are great methods whilst your learning online marketing and whilst your still getting your head around the whole process and what works/what doesn't work. However there is a glass ceiling before you need to either outsource your work or focus more on paid methods of getting traffic.

      For example, someone who uses article marketing for their main methods of income will only be able to reach a certain level or working capacity before theyy are exhausted and cannot physically/mentally do anymore. Therefore it would now be their choice as to either expand in to hiring virtual assistants or full-time employees, creating a media company and hiring people or to focus on paid traffic methods.

      This is just the nature of our business, businesses always need to expand to grow, whether your self-employed or an employee.

      Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

      Great post willyboy.
      Those media companies you listed for example just do not seem to cater for the small guy though.

      I am keen to read more on your outlook.
      Very true, most of these media companies want to work with those who have a relatively large budget, starting at $500 or more usually.

      However, they understand that the market for the self-employed, full-time marketers is massive and I highly doubt any of the networks mentioned would reject the massive business potential that this offers, such as Adbrite they try to cater for everyone.

      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      "Although there are several affiliates which I look after making over £100,000 each month and growing, oh and that's commission!"

      Are you referring to the media buyers here working with others or individual affiliates?

      There are also a number of affiliates making a very good daily income and these affiliates are just self-employed, full-time online marketers, no different to you and I.

      Are you referring to individual income here? And what do you consider good income for these individuals?
      Yes, many of the top affiliates I manage are media companies, but most of these media companies only have one or two people working on our campaign.

      Yes, individual income, I am talking between £100-£1,000 per day for each individual affiliate.

      Originally Posted by Sansfaim View Post

      In these teams, typically, you would find one person earning $750,000 a year, three or four earning $200,000-$300,000, six or seven earning $50,000 and 70 or 80 earning $0 - $10,000 a year.

      Internet marketing is just the same.

      About 1% earn big money, 2-3% earning good money, 5-7% earn a decent living and the rest "starve to death".
      Totally agree with this, another thing I would like to highlight is that through my experience and by asking others I have come to find that when recruiting affiliates the factors work the same. About half of the affiliates if not more, will never promote your campaign, another 30% will make one or two sales the last 20% will make daily sales with about 5% making a very good income such as what I mentioned above.

      Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

      What kind of capital are we talking to start a campaign with most of those companies you mentioned in the OP? From my limited research, it seems 5-10K is about what you need to start.
      Yes, I would suggest that £5,000 - £10,000 is a feasable working capital to start with for a campaign such as this, to reach this sort of revenue. Then again you could start with £1,000 and work your way up.

      To be honest, it doesn't really matter what working capital you start with and invest, it's the way you use the capital you have thats important and the results that this gives you.

      More importantly is the experience, data and information you have regarding the campaign you are promoting to help you create highly targeted campaigns.

      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      But think about that, with media buying you have to pay money to make money so of that $100k what is take home? What has to be paid out to buy?

      And as OP said it is usually a group working together so the pie gets a little smaller again.

      Still something to thing about if one is willing take time to learn otherwise looks like it could be an easy way to lose your shirt.
      I am not trying to say £100,000 is what every affiliate should be reaching for, it's just an example of a very successful affiliate who is effectively using media buying as a way of growing their campaign.


      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      This is something you work you way up to, you do not start doing media buys right off the bat. I know of at least several top CPA affiliates who are clearing $10,000/day NET (after advertising costs) on average doing media buys.
      Exactly, again I agree. You can work your way up, start with £500 work your way up to £5,000 and more. The only problem you have here is that your budget is limited so the margin for making mistakes is very tight.
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      please delete - multi-posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author EliteIM
    You have listed a good number of networks, for media buying I suggest the following be added to that list:
    And I agree completely when you say paid traffic dominates free traffic, in fact I would say one should use free traffic to find a good offer which converts well- and then use paid traffic to make the most money out of promoting it.
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    • Profile picture of the author abs007
      Yes certainly great info

      Im actually looking into how the big boys recruite affiliates - As a vendor myself affiliates are as important as custmers are -

      Im also from the Uk and have met a number of big affiliates and notice that there is a circle of trust which is much harder to get into then i initially thought -

      Either my product must be rebranded or my name taken off the product - which of course is something i dont really want happening -

      Free traffic does have its limits and I can see how paid traffic can really help - but as you noted this can be very expensive but if done correctly then it will mean great success -

      just out of curiosity - what is it that you do for your clients - do you manage the paid for traffic, recruit afiliates or something else

      I would love to hear from you should you be able to help me

      Your posts are very educating and to be honest its very hard to find information on how the big boys promote, find affiliates, create the buzz and make a successful launch

      thanks

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      • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
        Originally Posted by abs007 View Post

        Yes certainly great info

        Im actually looking into how the big boys recruite affiliates - As a vendor myself affiliates are as important as custmers are -

        Im also from the Uk and have met a number of big affiliates and notice that there is a circle of trust which is much harder to get into then i initially thought -

        Either my product must be rebranded or my name taken off the product - which of course is something i dont really want happening -

        Free traffic does have its limits and I can see how paid traffic can really help - but as you noted this can be very expensive but if done correctly then it will mean great success -

        just out of curiosity - what is it that you do for your clients - do you manage the paid for traffic, recruit afiliates or something else

        I would love to hear from you should you be able to help me

        Your posts are very educating and to be honest its very hard to find information on how the big boys promote, find affiliates, create the buzz and make a successful launch

        thanks

        abs

        I have to highlight that there is a big difference between recruiting affiliates for a one-man bands business and an international company. The main difference is that these "big" affiliates that are making £100k per month won't even listen to the one-man band unless they already have an established relationship with these clients/affiliates and networks.

        That's where affiliate managers and JV managers come in to play. However this isn't supposed to discourage you, I believe that if the product is useful, high quality and if the customers actually use the product to it's full potential then there is no limit to the type of affiliates you can get on board.

        I have PM'ed you Abs, just think it's more professional and less selfish for me to talk to you privately.
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