Is This How CB Makes Money?

by NMP
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They deduct their damn 2 week fee. first it was small.
then 5 USD per every 2 week. I didn't have much there
but it drained out 47 USD over a few months.

I mean what cost am I to them? A db record ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author GoneSurfing
    That sucks. Maybe that is their motivation for you to get some sales to offset it.
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  • Profile picture of the author suxes2005
    They are telling you to simply continue making
    money and do not stop at what you have before
    else they will drain it


    SHALOM
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    You should ask them for a breakdown of exactly what that money is being used for - to cover what costs? Just because they have it in their terms does not mean it is legal. If you have earned that money they cannot just take it away from you - if they say it is to cover costs then they should be able to tell you what those costs are and how much they are - I very much doubt you cost them much at all, as you said.

    The same thing has happened recently over here in Australia with banks. Banks will often charge you an over-limit fee of something ridiculous like $30. A lot of people made a big fuss about it and there was a big inquiry into it. The governing body deemed the fees to be way out of line. They did not reflect the actual cost to the bank if you are over your limit. That fee with my bank has since dropped from $30 to $9.

    If you don't question these sorts of things big business will just keep on doing them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by NMP View Post

    first it was small. then 5 USD per every 2 week. I didn't have much there but it drained out 47 USD over a few months.
    All you need to do, to avoid this, is buy a $3 product, through your own account/affiliate-link.

    These "dormant account charges" apply only to accounts that haven't had a single sale in 90 days. To be fair (which is actually more than they deserve for a scammy charge like that) it is openly explained in their accounting policy.

    A shame to lose $47 over it.
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    • Profile picture of the author wanna-succeed
      Are you guys telling me that since I made my first sale a few days ago, by complete luck, that I must sell something within 90 days? I can't guarantee that! I mean, I am just a newb, trying to earn some money with my first site. For all I know, I may never sell another products again, especially as I am going to have do drastically cut down the hours I can spend doing this. I mean, I might not be able to work for weeks at a time soon, although I'm hoping I will. Do all affiliate networks do this? For what stinking reason? I mean, how the heck could it be for costs if they don't charge you extra when you are earning money? Or do they charge you monthly for all the hard work you put in simply to earn them free money?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        Imagine you opened a business in town and you didn't make at least one sale every ninety days. You would be out a lot more than $47.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
          Commission Junction deactivated dormant accounts so yes it happens with other affiliate networks. Not sure if they charge a dormant fee though but they'll close accounts.

          That $47 sits open on their accounting books in limbo. That's why some companies cut checks that will be voided if not cashed within 90 days. That's probably why they do it to clear their books (just my opinion of course, only ClickBank can tell you exactly why the do it).

          How would you like if write me a check for $47 and I don't ever cash it? So the money is open in your books. You have it but you can't use it. Same thing with companies.

          Now they might not have cut you a check yet because you don't meet the minimum payout requirements but that is still an open debt on their books.

          ClickBank is huge so the amount in dormant accounts is a lot more than $47. So you're viewing it as just $47 but they probably have thousands of dollars open in their books for months.

          Well they're not going to leave that in their books open forever for you. They're not a bank.
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        • Profile picture of the author celente
          Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

          Imagine you opened a business in town and you didn't make at least one sale every ninety days. You would be out a lot more than $47.
          Dan is right.

          On one sale like that it is not worth complaining.

          80% all my income comes from clickbank, and I make a good living off them.

          I would say there have been no dramas with them, (maybe the odd one here or there) but they are pretty good.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by wanna-succeed View Post

        Are you guys telling me that since I made my first sale a few days ago, by complete luck, that I must sell something within 90 days? I can't guarantee that!
        Relax: you can always sell a $3 product to yourself, as explained above, if it's really a big issue for you. And you have about 87 days to go before you even need to do that ...

        And you can always set your threshold, you know, and get your money out once you've complied with the CDR?

        I would say "keep your hair on" but with your niche, it might not quite be the appropriate wording ...
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        • Profile picture of the author wanna-succeed
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Relax: you can always sell a $3 product to yourself, as explained above, if it's really a big issue for you. And you have about 87 days to go before you even need to do that ...

          And you can always set your threshold, you know, and get your money out once you've complied with the CDR?

          I would say "keep your hair on" but with your niche, it might not quite be the appropriate wording ...
          LOL!
          Suppose I was unfortunate enough to have a 90 day dry patch, no sales at all.
          If I have enough money in my account before hand, and withdraw it, what will the punishment be? I don't have any money in there, are they going to come after my soul?:rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      All you need to do, to avoid this, is buy a $3 product, through your own account/affiliate-link.

      These "dormant account charges" apply only to accounts that haven't had a single sale in 90 days. To be fair (which is actually more than they deserve for a scammy charge like that) it is openly explained in their accounting policy.

      A shame to lose $47 over it.
      That's definately one way but another option is to work harder and smarter in order to achieve a sale within 90 days.

      If someone has made a sale on Clickbank they could duplicate what they did to get the first sale in order to get additional sales.

      I firmly believe that just 1 article a day every day for 90 days promoting the same product could easily achieve a sale within that 90 day time period.

      Respectfully,
      Tim
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      • Profile picture of the author mozesteven
        Originally Posted by TimG View Post

        That's definately one way but another option is to work harder and smarter in order to achieve a sale within 90 days.

        If someone has made a sale on Clickbank they could duplicate what they did to get the first sale in order to get additional sales.

        I firmly believe that just 1 article a day every day for 90 days promoting the same product could easily achieve a sale within that 90 day time period.

        Respectfully,
        Tim
        I like what TimG saying. Yes, we have to firmly believe with 1 article per day for 90 days, I should believe that they will generate extra sales.

        TimG, do you directly publish your articles to eza?

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        • Profile picture of the author TimG
          Originally Posted by mozesteven View Post

          I like what TimG saying. Yes, we have to firmly believe with 1 article per day for 90 days, I should believe that they will generate extra sales.

          TimG, do you directly publish your articles to eza?

          Regards,
          Mozesteven
          The reason I advocate writing and submitting articles is because you don't want to get in the habit of buying products just to keep your commission from previous sales from getting drained.

          Of course it works but at best it is a temporary fix and it does nothing in teaching you how to market clickbank products which is whee the real root of the problem lies.

          Also, most articles I post on my own sites first and then on EZA but in some instances I do publish on EZA first. It mostly depends on the keyword phrases I am targeting.

          Respectfully,
          Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author officer_iron
    Yeah that dormant account fee sucks. Even if it's openly explained, it still sucks. Hopefully you can get some sales going and avoid it in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThelemaqueTip
    Originally Posted by NMP View Post

    They deduct their damn 2 week fee. first it was small.
    then 5 USD per every 2 week. I didn't have much there
    but it drained out 47 USD over a few months.

    I mean what cost am I to them? A db record ;-)
    I'm having the same problem too. i had start out with $225 in my account from making sales in clickbank... now it's down to $206 from all that deduction..and i'm furious about it..Why they don't just give us the money that we hard for?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by ThelemaqueTip View Post

      i had start out with $225 in my account from making sales in clickbank... now it's down to $206 from all that deduction..and i'm furious about it..
      Why don't you just buy a $3 product through your own link?!

      Why does nobody ever read Clickbank's accounting policy and avoid all these problems?!
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      • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Why don't you just buy a $3 product through your own link?!

        Why does nobody ever read Clickbank's accounting policy and avoid all these problems?!
        Do products you buy through your own link count, and do you get paid on them?

        Of course, I could just go buy a $3 product and find the answer out myself if I was smart!
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    • Profile picture of the author Janet Sawyer
      Welcome to CLICKBANK world

      In order to get your payment (It's not your money YET!)

      You have to meet their Customer Distribution Requirement.

      So you gotta make 5 sales - hang on, not just 5 sales, BUT 5 sales with different credit/debit card numbers. If you don't, then that $205 is going to be eaten by the CLICKBANK fees.

      Paypal sales - even if you have made hundreds, don't count as individual sales there at CLICKBANK.

      The trick is to get ................ erm - Uncle Harvey? do you want to chime in here?




      Originally Posted by ThelemaqueTip View Post

      I'm having the same problem too. i had start out with $225 in my account from making sales in clickbank... now it's down to $206 from all that deduction..and i'm furious about it..Why they don't just give us the money that we hard for?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
        Originally Posted by Janet Sawyer View Post

        Welcome to CLICKBANK world

        In order to get your payment (It's not your money YET!)

        You have to meet their Customer Distribution Requirement.

        So you gotta make 5 sales - hang on, not just 5 sales, BUT 5 sales with different credit/debit card numbers. If you don't, then that $205 is going to be eaten by the CLICKBANK fees.

        Paypal sales - even if you have made hundreds, don't count as individual sales there at CLICKBANK.

        The trick is to get ................ erm - Uncle Harvey? do you want to chime in here?

        They probably put in that place because most "affiliates" on ClickBank use it as a rebate program to get money back from their own purchases. This at least makes it a little tougher to get that cash rebate.
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  • Profile picture of the author TZ
    Yeah. Like selling product(s) directly for a few reasons;

    One, for the reasons you mentioned
    Two, controlling the pitch and not a letting CB affiliates mis-represent my product
    Three, I keep all of the profit
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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      Originally Posted by Janet Sawyer View Post

      So you gotta make 5 sales - hang on, not just 5 sales, BUT 5 sales with different credit/debit card numbers. If you don't, then that $205 is going to be eaten by the CLICKBANK fees.
      No - failing to meet the Customer Distribution Requirement
      is entirely separate from going dormant.



      Originally Posted by Janet Sawyer View Post

      The trick is to get ................ erm - Uncle Harvey? do you want to chime in here?
      If you search for a free book called ClickBank for Newbies
      you might just see how to solve these problems.


      Harvey


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    • Profile picture of the author Zachmo
      oh well in every field that gives a marketer a lot of money there exists also a lot of pros and cons
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    • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
      Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

      hmmmmmm, if you can't:

      I wonder if just maybe there might be a pool of cool marketers online that hangout where you can ask a couple buddies to give you a hand.. .. . If only such a place existed. Perhaps even simply offer an exchange through paypal for the difference so it's just a swap.. ... that would be swell.
      An exchange for 3 bucks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Pursuit2Success
    Is this ONLY for international people or everybody?
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  • Profile picture of the author Pursuit2Success
    I just sign up for a Clickbank account and I don't do NOTHING so would it take effect once I made a sale or like I made a sale then I am inactive for a amount of time then they would deduct from account?
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    What do you expect from a company that has the word 'BANK' in their name?!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mufasa
    Ya know, a fella can get quite an education from wandering around in here. You guys rock. Sorry to hear about the problems folks are having though. Keep swinging though, eventually that big ole tree has got to come down.
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    Originally Posted by NMP View Post

    They deduct their damn 2 week fee. first it was small.
    then 5 USD per every 2 week. I didn't have much there
    but it drained out 47 USD over a few months.

    I mean what cost am I to them? A db record ;-)
    I am taking it that you have not made a sale for a couple of months 3 months to be exact.

    If you read their policy they have noted in there that if you have funds in your clickbank account that you have made. And that you have not made any sales for your promotions in 3 months they will start to deduct x amount from your accout. Then after another month or so they will up that amount to x $ again.

    This is pretty much their incentive for you to push harder on yourself to make more sales. If you have not made enough to receive a check in 3 months and their is not any sales coming in why should they hold your balance for 5 years.

    They do make money on the fees how ever they make the most money when people choose to list their products on their site to be sold. But the total you would have to pay out every paycheck is only 2.50.

    Also keep in mind too that if you have it set up direct deposit. They will also withhold some extra money which will be released to you the following week. This is the just in case factor of a refund. So this may be what you are experiencing but it is hard to say with the very very vague explanation you have given us.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnyeo90
    Find a lawyer and sue Clickbank..haha
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  • Profile picture of the author robvegas626
    Clickbank also deducts a percentage of each transaction (each sale that you make). That's how they make most of their money. But I do think it's a great service and I make plenty of sales every day, so I don't even really notice the small percentage that they take out.
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