Question to writers - writing difficulty...

by Adie
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If you are a writer, which is more difficult:

1. Write from scratch based on provided topic and keywords.

OR

2. Rewrite PLR Articles?

I am asking because I am receiving mixed answers from writers in scriptlance. I am trying to find cheap re-writers and this thread could guide me on my decision. I have 140K PLR articles and I need a couple of thousands to get re-written this year.... Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author bjgran
    Adie:
    I would always rather start from scratch than rewrite anything. It's difficult -- I think -- to maintain the original author's voice when you rewrite and can sometimes turn out jumbled or not flowing properly.
    I'm always amused when people want to pay less for a rewrite of anything than one written from the beginning -- using keywords or whatever.
    Most of the time it takes me much longer to do a rewrite, so I charge the same as I do for original copy.
    Hope that helps, Adie.
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    • Profile picture of the author warriorsootie
      Hello, I have been writing articles but they are hard for me. I wrote one yesterday and gave it to articlebase...com I seen it on the internet today with all my links changed to someone else. I am frustrated. I am thinking about getting someone else to write for me that is why I am responding to this post. Thank you for reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    I find it a little tougher to rewrite articles than to write from scratch. I have specific method I use when writing articles from scratch, that makes it really easy. With rewrites I really have to think about making it unique and it's hinders my creativeness a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
      Originally Posted by Charlotte Jay View Post

      I find it a little tougher to rewrite articles than to write from scratch. I have specific method I use when writing articles from scratch, that makes it really easy. With rewrites I really have to think about making it unique and it's hinders my creativeness a lot.
      Definitely agree with this. Plus, it's a lot more enjoyable to write from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by Charlotte Jay View Post

      I find it a little tougher to rewrite articles than to write from scratch. I have specific method I use when writing articles from scratch, that makes it really easy. With rewrites I really have to think about making it unique and it's hinders my creativeness a lot.
      "I've developed my own system for writing new articles, so I find it easier to write them from scratch than to rewrite them. My creativity can be hampered quite a bit when faced with rewriting content and making it unique."

      There, I rewrote your post.

      I don't know that I consider one way more difficult than the other. Each has its challenges. When writing new content, you have to figure out what you're going to write and how you're going to write it. When rewriting, you need only consider how you're going to rewrite it, which is one less step. It's like your outline is already complete. It may feel more restrictive if the article's outline isn't quite the same as the way you would have outlined it.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashcow
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        "I've developed my own system for writing new articles, so I find it easier to write them from scratch than to rewrite them. My creativity can be hampered quite a bit when faced with rewriting content and making it unique."

        There, I rewrote your post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Wow, you have the same answer and I think I will go with fresh. I can write articles myself but you know when we need such amount of articles, our time is our biggest enemy. Yes, I find re-writing more difficult than creating new ones and I thought I was alone.. many thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    No problem, sometimes it helps to get someone else's perspective on things. Writing is a lot of fun and even more so when you figure out how to do it quickly and efficiently!
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      Oh, well, just to be contrary... I generally find rewriting much easier than starting from scratch. But some PLR is so dreadfully written or devoid of content that rewriting means creating a whole new article anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I agree with what Charlotte and Bev have already stated. It's easier to start from scratch and maintain the same voice and flow.

    Plus, if there are any statistics I never feel comfortable using them unless I check them myself, so I still end up doing my own research. Too many things are repeated over and over again on the internet that aren't true. (shocker, right?)
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    • Profile picture of the author Ted_B
      Hello there,
      All in all, I prefer to start from scratch. To me, it's easier and takes less time than re-writing something else. I'd rather do the research myself so I know things are accurate, and during re-writing I end up doing lots of research anyways.
      My writing flows more naturally when starting from scratch.
      Just my 2 cents!
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      • Profile picture of the author Sardent
        I find it to be a matter of "6 of one, half a dozen of the other".

        The extra time it takes to be creative with a rewrite, or the extra time necessary for researching an original.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ordinaryme
    According to my personal experience, I find re-writing more difficult than the former. I mean it's like you can't deviate your thoughts from the original text..you tend to think along the same lines as that of the original content. The moment you start thinking, you come back to where you'd started-the original stuff :p

    It's like throwing the ball up... it comes back to you again no matter what
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  • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
    I would rather be locked in a closet with a half dozen pissed off badgers than have to rewrite what passes for PLR in this world.

    I would charge accordingly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
      Originally Posted by Oxbloom View Post

      I would rather be locked in a closet with a half dozen pissed off badgers than have to rewrite what passes for PLR in this world.

      I would charge accordingly.
      Haha, thanks for the laugh Oxbloom. A pissed off badger is no laughing matter
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    • Profile picture of the author PhoebeSmellyCat
      The only time I think PLR is easier is when I'm just using it as a jumping off point to an article and not exactly re-writing it.

      So, I guess in essence, it's easier to start fresh.
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  • Profile picture of the author tobyR
    Im not a professional writer but I do write my own blogposts and articles and personally I find it easier to write from scratch with keywords etc I find many PLR articles are so poorly written its takes longer to re write than to start from scratch
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Instead of trying to rewrite all the articles completely, get a little creative. Contrary to popular belief, they do not need to be completely rewritten or to be 100% unique. Group by topic, first of all. Then start trying some of these ideas:
      • Mix and match from 2-3 articles (or more) to create new ones
      • Add a paragraph to the beginning, in the middle and at the end of one
      • Rewrite one or two sentences of each paragraph, particularly the first and last.
      • Take just part of a PLR article and add on to it, making a new article
      • Instead of using them as articles, put several together (that are on the same topic, of course) and create a short report you can give away to subscribers or post on document sharing sites
      It should go without saying, but with that many PLR articles, many of them are probably pure crap. Read them and if they totally stink, just trash them.

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      • Profile picture of the author cashcow
        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

        Instead of trying to rewrite all the articles completely, get a little creative. Contrary to popular belief, they do not need to be completely rewritten or to be 100% unique. Group by topic, first of all. Then start trying some of these ideas:
        • Mix and match from 2-3 articles (or more) to create new ones
        • Add a paragraph to the beginning, in the middle and at the end of one
        • Rewrite one or two sentences of each paragraph, particularly the first and last.
        • Take just part of a PLR article and add on to it, making a new article
        • Instead of using them as articles, put several together (that are on the same topic, of course) and create a short report you can give away to subscribers or post on document sharing sites
        It should go without saying, but with that many PLR articles, many of them are probably pure crap. Read them and if they totally stink, just trash them.

        HTH,
        Tina
        This is probably one of the better answers to any of the rewriting questions in any of the threads here.

        Taking your PLR (the good stuff, not the crappy stuff) and re purposing it like Tina has outlined can be a real time saver. Furthermore, if you take the time to break it up into paragraphs or sections on sub topics then you will have a big supply of content that you can pull together for articles, reports or whatever.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

        • Mix and match from 2-3 articles (or more) to create new ones
        • ...
        • Instead of using them as articles, put several together (that are on the same topic, of course) and create a short report you can give away to subscribers or post on document sharing sites
        With the first one, you need to know enough about the topic to be able to do that. (Of course, in any situation where you're using PLR, you should probably know something about the topic.) Otherwise, you may mix and match in such a way that it doesn't actually make sense. Oh, it might make sense to someone who knows nothing about the topic, but it may still be completely wrong and someone who does know something about the topic will think the author is an idiot and stay away from that site in the future.

        With the second one quoted above, I would add that that works best when using PLR from the same author. Otherwise, you'll have mixed styles and voices and it won't read very well. Additionally, you still need to do some rewriting as content meant as standalone articles doesn't necessarily make for a good chapter. You have to rewrite portions to make sure it flows well from one to the next.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
          Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

          With the first one, you need to know enough about the topic to be able to do that. (Of course, in any situation where you're using PLR, you should probably know something about the topic.) Otherwise, you may mix and match in such a way that it doesn't actually make sense. Oh, it might make sense to someone who knows nothing about the topic, but it may still be completely wrong and someone who does know something about the topic will think the author is an idiot and stay away from that site in the future.

          With the second one quoted above, I would add that that works best when using PLR from the same author. Otherwise, you'll have mixed styles and voices and it won't read very well. Additionally, you still need to do some rewriting as content meant as standalone articles doesn't necessarily make for a good chapter. You have to rewrite portions to make sure it flows well from one to the next.
          Yeah, Dan...I kind of thought those points wouldn't need to be stated as they should be understood...lol.

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          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
            Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

            Yeah, Dan...I kind of thought those points wouldn't need to be stated as they should be understood...lol.
            Have you ever read anything on the Internet?
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          • Profile picture of the author Zachmo
            When I am rewriting something I always tend to not follow how the original article went that's why I can say that it's better for me to write from scratch.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahjp
    Hello,

    I find it much easier to do my own research and write from scratch. As it has been said a number of times here, I find that much of the plr is not very good, to put it politely.

    However, having said that, I might well have a go at Tina's suggestions to see how they work out.

    Many blessings,

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I am asking because I am receiving mixed answers from writers in scriptlance. I am trying to find cheap re-writers and this thread could guide me on my decision. I have 140K PLR articles and I need a couple of thousands to get re-written this year.... Thanks
      Andie - big problem. If you have 140k PLR articles - chances are they are poor quality articles.

      You are thinking "cheap to hire someone to rewrite PLR" - but what the writer will see is info so general that all they can do is either start over or just move sentences/paragraphs around. No decent writer will take that on.

      Now - if you have purchased high quality PLR that might be different. I've done several hundred rewrites for one client - but they were rewrite of very well written, long articles and he paid more for the rewrites than others pay for new articles.

      I'm trying explain thoroughly because I want you to understand what you are asking. On freelance sites there has been an influx of "buyers" who think they can game the system. They hire $1-2 articles writers or buy hundreds of PLR articles that have less than no real info - and then they advertise they need a "good quality" writer to "rewrite". Writers don't bite on that lure.

      There is a way to use PLR and end up with a halfway decent rewrite. Here's how you do it.

      Take 3-5 PLR articles on the same topic and paste them into Word and use Word to get a "summary". Quickly rewrite using the highlight terms of the summarized articles. If you don't like to write from scratch, that might work for you. You end up with one article that, if you are lucky, has some info in it.

      You could probably find a writer on elance or here who would be willing to do the process above for $5 for each finished article. Don't know how good they would be - but it can be done.

      If you want to do it yourself you can use the same process and have Word produce a summary that is a percentage of the total pasted in it - so 5 articles of 400 words each would be 2000 words pasted into Worddoc - and you might summary at 25% to get a 500 word article that would need minimal editing.

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author Andie
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Andie - big problem. If you have 140k PLR articles - chances are they are poor quality articles.

        kay
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    • Profile picture of the author Terry Coombes
      Hi,
      Until I came across Unique Article Wizard spinning, I hadn't tried rewriting one of my articles twice in quite this way. The second and third time of writing are definitely more boring and more like hard work. I think the answer depends upon the brief. How close to the original PLR article's meaning and format does it have to be? How much (if any) of the PLR content can remain unchanged?

      Having read through what I just wrote, I'm now thinking how much research the PLR would save and I come down on the side of PLR rewrites, against my initial thoughts.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    Tina & Kay, good ideas for making rewrites work.

    As already mentioned, it depends on whether there's any worthwhile content in the original article. If there is, then it can be a good starting point. If it's junk then toss it and start from the beginning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mac the Knife
    Just throwing in my two cents-

    I agree with most here-rewriting sucks. Those who try to save money by getting PLR and then getting to rewrite it cheaply, usually end up with little than barely better the PLR itself. Find a quality writer and write original, engaging content.

    Also, from a writer's perspective, re-writing can be difficult and often take as much or more time than just writing from scratch. Many touch base with my and ask me to re-write plr hoping to get a huge discount since they are providing the plr but frankly I would rather just write originals, so I generally don't even offer a discount for rewrites.

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    • Profile picture of the author AlexDawson
      Since most PLR is rubbish, it takes just as long to do a rewrite as it does to write from scratch. Most of the time, you can't use any of the PLR version anyway, so the writer ends up writing from scratch.

      That's been my experience, anyway.

      You'll get more mileage and better traffic from 4 well-written articles, than from 140K poorly-rewritten PLR ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    Rewriting is a PITA - and you can often get a much better article if the person is writing from scratch. I say keyword-scratch all the way!

    I used to charge MORE to rewrite than I did writing from scratch.
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  • Profile picture of the author gvannorman
    Writing efficiently enough is the key to both re-writing and writing new articles. You need to know the proper format of the article.

    Also when re-writing the article do you really need to keep it at 100% original. I am a bit skeptical on the copyscape theory. But, if its what the buyer wants, its what they get.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Adie View Post

    If you are a writer, which is more difficult:

    1. Write from scratch based on provided topic and keywords.

    OR

    2. Rewrite PLR Articles?

    I am asking because I am receiving mixed answers from writers in scriptlance. I am trying to find cheap re-writers and this thread could guide me on my decision. I have 140K PLR articles and I need a couple of thousands to get re-written this year.... Thanks

    I think it is always more difficult to rewrite.

    But that is because I need to reformulate the original in a way that still makes sense to the reader.
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  • Profile picture of the author TZ
    From scratch in my opinion.

    We have 4 writers that have been utilizing for 4 years now, and they all go from scratch because they prefer it.

    Two of them use speech recognition softare to really pump out the content. One writer in Palm Beach using Dragon Naturally Speaking to spew out 7-8 thousand words in 25-30 minutes, and then passes it off to his wife for editing, spell check, etc. They make a decent living doing this.

    Hard work, but it's from home and they're free to live their life without "the man" breathing down their neck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      spew out 7-8 thousand words in 25-30 minutes,
      It's possible to think at 500 words per minute but experts say when you speak the average is 125 words/minute and 175 is top speed.

      It's an interesting approach and sounds like it works for them but I think the numbers are a bit off. On the other hand, you did say "spew"
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      • Profile picture of the author TZ
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        It's possible to think at 500 words per minute but experts say when you speak the average is 125 words/minute and 175 is top speed.

        It's an interesting approach and sounds like it works for them but I think the numbers are a bit off. On the other hand, you did say "spew"
        Yeah. He has to be "spewing" leaving her with allot of editing.

        I think the most I have ever creating using DNS was around 10,000 in 30 minutes, but I was testing it to see how fast I could go. The editing was brutal though.

        I would say if you wanted a reasonable amount of editing, you could certainly create 5 thousand words in 30 minutes that did not require much editing afterwards.

        Unfortunately, some folks have thick accents.
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        • Profile picture of the author genietoast
          In addition to writing articles, think strategically about where you would place them.

          You don't always have to stick them on article directories. You may want to consider using a couple of them as guest posts on sites that already get a lot of traffic.

          Of course, quality content is key in this case.
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    With a rewrite, you don't have to do the research; however, I personally find it very difficult to rewrite my own articles unless there is some time between revisions.

    When I hire article writers, I pay the same for rewrites as I do for originals.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
    One thing I have noticed with rewrites is they are MUCH easier and quicker if the original author is a good writer and can clearly formulate their thoughts. I have had quite a few where I read through it and go "hu? what the hell was that about?". Never have to worry about that when I write my own articles.

    The first few rewrites I did, I would go sentence by sentence and try to just restructure them. Learned this was a horrible idea. Instead, I just read each paragraph and completely rewrite it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Harvey
    It is so much harder to rewrite articles, however if an article is 500-700 words, then rewriting it to 350 words would be theoretically easier because you can summarize what the original author tried to convey.

    From experience, I found that most people do not enjoy long articles. Some people do, but the average person hates reading online and therefore anything that is 380 words or less is ideal for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    I am so glad I read this thread!!!! I was beginning to think I was the only one who preferred to write original articles as opposed to re-writes.

    However, clients definitely seem to think they shouldn't have to pay as much for a re-write. Next time someone doesn't 'get it'....I'm sending them straight to this thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Bosen
    It really depends, are you good at re-writing?
    And it also depends on the quality of the article. I do prefer writing from scratch, but if an article needs re-writing and it is very basic and simple it is easy to build upon it.
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  • Profile picture of the author csrpj
    everyone's different. myself, it's easier to re-write.
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    For those of you looking to make rewriting articles a little easier, I just setup a new site: Free Article Rewriter For Internet Marketers

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  • Profile picture of the author Bingo Ventura
    Writing is writing. When writing for clients, I think it's all the same when tasked to write something, be it from scratch or as a rewrite.

    They both have their pros and cons.

    When writing from scratch, you may have to spend some time researching the topic and reviewing the best ideas/thoughts/facts to include in your article.

    When rewriting something, you do away with most of the research, and spend your time restating the concept of the article. Paraphrasing is always tedious. So, as long as you 'Paraphrase the idea', and not the sentences. You should be fine.

    Hmmm, but to answer the question itself...I'd think i prefer writing fresh articles. They're more interesting to do, and it gives a sense of accomplishment knowing that you analyzed the topic and formed your own opinions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Golelen
    I much prefer original writing. I probably have the same 140k PLR articles you do. They are about worthless. I also find it easier to spin my own articles rather than re-writing PLR and trying to spin it. I almost always get better uniqueness when I write the seed article.
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  • Profile picture of the author content_meadow
    Adie, for me it all depends on the original article. It's much easier to create a quality article out of one that was good to begin with. Some of the PLR I have been asked to rewrite is so thin that I end up having to add original material to it anyway.

    Honestly, there is some PLR out there that is nothing more than a bunch of words strung together with no information in the article whatsoever, not even enough to use as a decent jumping-off point. In that case, it's much easier to just write from scratch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Britt Malka
    I find it more difficult to rewrite something than to write it myself from scratch.

    When I wrote books for a Danish publishing house, they gave me other books to look after to begin with, but I never used them. I preferred to create my own outline, and write according to that.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinFranz
    To me it all depends on the source material.

    If the source is already good, rewriting is fast and easy. If the source is low quality, then I would much rather throw it all out and start from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
      Originally Posted by KevinFranz View Post

      To me it all depends on the source material.

      If the source is already good, rewriting is fast and easy. If the source is low quality, then I would much rather throw it all out and start from scratch.
      Exactly the point I was going to make. If you have a ton of junk PLR (and, sadly, much of it is), it's going to be tough to rewrite. Most of the uber-cheap PLR is full of fluff instead of research - and it's the research you'll need to rewrite it.

      I've had a few clients hire me to rewrite PLR. It's not hard to do IF you have good content to begin with. Otherwise, you're stuck trying to make chicken salad out of, well, you know
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  • Profile picture of the author JonAlfredsson
    I find writing fresh contents for article and internet marketing harder to do but of course that depends on the topic to be written. If I will be writing the contents that I love, then it will be a lot faster especially if I know about it.

    As for rewrites, it can be difficult to as there are some contents that are difficult to rewrite. They have this certain essence (most of the time with the construction) that makes rewriting a challenge than the usual.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Starting from scratch with the desired keywords is most definitely easier. As others have mentioned, some (or a great deal of) PLR, particularly the super cheap PLR, is basically not much more than a lot of fluffy words strung together. That makes it super tough to turn junk into a wonderful article.

      When you are putting your name on an article, you really need it written with good, solid, reliable information that will engage the interest of the reader. Unless you obtained really decent PLR, it would be better to write and research from scratch, much less hassle for the writer, and less headaches for you after you get it back.

      All this just brings us full circle, pick the keywords, and get a reliable writer to do it from scratch.
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