500 Review Copies: Serial Refunding, Complaining, Bitch & Moan WF Guide

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Wanted to give back just a bit here. I've developed a little booklet that will offend, outrage, and insult almost all Warriors--and yet, some may find a few words of wisdom within it. Maybe it will help you earn; Hopefully it will help you think.

No opt-in required. No links inside. No self-promotional B.S.

Direct download link: http://bit.ly/gMr1yj

Hope you find it useful.


--Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
    Nice

    If it doesn't get stickied, this should at least have a link to it.

    Well written, Mike,

    and Thanks for caring enough to take the time.


    Peace

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  • Profile picture of the author darrenmonroe
    Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

    Wanted to give back just a bit here. I've developed a little booklet that will offend, outrage, and insult almost all Warriors--and yet, some may find a few words of wisdom within it. Maybe it will help you earn; Hopefully it will help you think.

    No opt-in required. No links inside. No self-promotional B.S.

    Direct download link: http://bit.ly/gMr1yj

    Hope you find it useful.


    --Mike
    Mike.... to quote Jerry McGuire movie "You had me at Outraged" LOL I am downloading now def bookmarking this post
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    Refreshing after nap reading!

    A must have for newbies (and some old members too)

    I vote for sticky this post!
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Neodarth,
      I have a daughter who lives in Santiago! If you tell me you're complaining about the heat down there when it's 6 degrees here and another 12-14 inches of snow expected tomorrow--I'm gunna have to put the slap down on ya! Just kidding. Been to the Andes, been to the ocean. Had great food and great times down there! --Mike

      Darren--got back with you on your PM. No problem. Thanks! --Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author neodarth
        Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

        Neodarth,
        I have a daughter who lives in Santiago! If you tell me you're complaining about the heat down there when it's 6 degrees here and another 12-14 inches of snow expected tomorrow--I'm gunna have to put the slap down on ya! Just kidding. Been to the Andes, been to the ocean. Had great food and great times down there! --Mike
        Awesome! I trade ya some heat for a couple of inches of snow!
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        • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
          Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

          Awesome! I trade ya some heat for a couple of inches of snow!
          I'll get on it!
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            A very interesting read Mike and a lot of which I feel like saying to people quite a lot.

            If it's not made a sticky it should be forced upon all new people with a written exam to follow.

            Very well written.
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  • Profile picture of the author darrenmonroe
    Very on point Mike. I PM you had a question sir.
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  • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
    Hi Mike,

    Loved it, but there is one bit I am not sure I agree/understand you. The guaranteed earning, is your ire directed towards someone making a garanteed income claim without actually compensating you if you fail or without explaining any condition attached to it as opposed to someone making the following guarantee "earn 100$ in a week or your WSO money back".
    Or do you just frown on any type of earning guarantee?

    ...Or Have I misunderstood you ?

    Also...Would you mind if I sent it to some of my contacts (happy for you to PM me a version with a link to your website )
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Hi TPF,

      I understand what you're saying (asking). It's not an easy thing to answer because a single answer cannot cover every case. I think there probably are cases where a product vendor could make some sort of guarantee about earning if someone follows their plan. And in some specific instances that could well be justified.

      On the other hand, I think it can be over-used to lead people in to situations where they desperately expect earnings that just might not be there for them. I have no perfect answer. Your question is better than my answer!

      But what do you think, TPF? Am I way off base? I get in these psychogenic fugue states frequently where I say things without looking at them from all perspectives. I will be my downfall, certainly. I hear what you're asking and I just don't have the perfect answer. Good question--thanks! --Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Cay78
        Mike, just got done reading you pdf...I must say it was a nice read! I think it should be mandatory for all new warriors that they read this before coming into the forum... Again, thank you for taking the time to post!
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      • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
        Wow, glad I got in before the 500 review copies were all gone.

        Good read Mike. I hope more members take up the Troll Control training. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
          Good job, Mike.

          I'm also of the mind that making new members read this or something equivelent before they get a username would have benefits all of us would participate in.

          Even at a 2% conversion rate...

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
          Thanks, Mike.

          I have found it to be quite an amazing thing how much I can learn by reading and asking a few questions here and there.

          Making a comment sometimes, and taking a look at the responses of some people whose opinion I have come to respect, has really helped me figure a few things out.

          Thank you again for taking the time to write this and put it up here.
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      • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
        Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post


        But what do you think, TPF? Am I way off base? I get in these psychogenic fugue states frequently where I say things without looking at them from all perspectives. I will be my downfall, certainly. I hear what you're asking and I just don't have the perfect answer. Good question--thanks! --Mike

        I think you could have pointed out that a lot (most?) WSO's offer very generous guarantees , to at least cover the costs if not satisfied and that is may be a point that need to be more prominent in your guide.
        Also , I recently stumbled across what I think is one of the best type of guarantee I have heard.

        It's by fellow warrior Paul Barr.
        I hope he won't mind me posting it here



        Now...that's a guarantee!
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

    Direct download link: http://bit.ly/gMr1yj

    Hope you find it useful.

    I did find it useful and accurate.

    Hopefully others will read it and take it to heart.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Bill,
      My booklet resulted in your making what I believe is the shortest post of your career here on the forum! When I saw your name my initial thought was, OMG I'm going to get a 3,500 word response--which I wouldn't have minded. I've learned a lot from your stuff! Had I known my booklet would keep your posts down to two liners I would have created it long ago !

      Kidding, of course! Thanks much for skimming it --Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

        Bill,
        My booklet resulted in your making what I believe is the shortest post of your career here on the forum! When I saw your name my initial thought was, OMG I'm going to get a 3,500 word response--which I wouldn't have minded. I've learned a lot from your stuff! Had I known my booklet would keep your posts down to two liners I would have created it long ago !

        Kidding, of course! Thanks much for skimming it --Mike

        LOL Thanks.... I think....

        Cross your fingers... I am working on my next one...
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Nicely done, Mike. However, I think that you were a little light on the serial refunders, file sharers, and thieves. You left out the part about possibly burning hell for an eternity. That might be worth mentioning in the revised edition.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      I tried to err on the side of caution, Brian. But I have always trusted and respected your views here. Break out the torches and pitchforks then. The game is afoot !
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      • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
        Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

        I tried to err on the side of caution, Brian. But I have always trusted and respected your views here. Break out the torches and pitchforks then. The game is afoot !
        I don't really believe in all that fire and brimstone. We tribesmen tend to believe in different degrees away from the inner circle, depending upon how one lives their life. Having said that, I did a little research and found out that if there were a hell, it wouldn't be so bad. Apparently, the biggest worry would be having your brains eaten while you sleep. See below for a more accurate depiction.



        I will add that I am a big Meat Loaf fan. Apparently, you can drive a Harley out, if you end up there.

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        • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
          Brian, been there, had it done to me--but it doesn't stop me from posting half-brained material here on the forum. Thanks Brian, that's going to make it easy for me to sleep tonight knowing they might be back for more! Ha, ha.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Originally Posted by rkcc4 View Post

      Oh Sh1t, I hit that damn red button without thinking!
      I told you not to do that in the booklet! Dya read the part about the digital knuckle sandwich for doing that? Kidding! Ya made me laugh--thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Palusko
    Is this book going to help me earn $500 in 6 days? You see, I have some major financial problems right now and have to come up with $500 for rent. I tried some WSO I purchased but nothing worked. I'm gonna write lot of negative reviews when I have some time. And also will start some threads explaining to people why article marketing is dead. It's all one big scam and I feel like the whole world is against me. I know it's just a rant, but thanks for listening :-)
    Anyway, what's your book about?
    :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Thanks, Bill! I value your input, as always.

    You're getting a 2% conversion on your sales pages. Help me .
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Good stuff, as usual, Mike. I would have thanked your OP but my thanks were used up in my own thread. I wish everyone would read your booklet. It might help a few of the open-minded people.
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  • Profile picture of the author EA
    Mike

    To be honest you have posted on this forum a lot of value and great comments.

    Seriously this guide should be for everyone who join this forum, the rule book

    Like Bill Farnham mentioned "before they get username."

    Mike I also want to say one more thing the warrior forum is a great place to learn and share just like you said in the end of your guide. I totally agree with you there.

    One more thing. People should always show others warriors respect and be honest.

    Once again you have done it Mike - Good luck with everything you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Palusko,
    <<Is this book going to help me earn $500 in 6 days?>>

    Palusko, you just condensed my booklet down to a few sentences! And actually, it only takes 3 days to make the $500! Thanks, I'm still laughing!

    MikeJMichaelZ,
    <<Thank you again for taking the time to write this and put it up here.>>

    No problem. Thank you and everyone for making this place a great forum!

    Richard Van,
    <<...it should be forced upon all new people with a written exam to follow.>>

    That would probably shut this forum down in short order! I don't think Allen would want to grade all those tests anyway.

    Thanks Dennis, your post...
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-about-im.html

    should also be read by all! You nailed it on that one, dead on center! --Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      That would probably shut this forum down in short order! I don't think Allen would want to grade all those tests anyway.
      It was kind of tongue in cheek though Mike

      I'd volunteer to do the marking/grading thing though??
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    • Profile picture of the author Ronny Kibet
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      Palusko,
      <<Is this book going to help me earn $500 in 6 days?>>

      Palusko, you just condensed my booklet down to a few sentences! And actually, it only takes 3 days to make the $500! Thanks, I'm still laughing!
      HAHAHAH! i am laughing as well Mike. Palusko gat jokes.
      Anyway, thanks for the awesome report Mike.
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  • Profile picture of the author donaldwilson
    I wanted to thank you for taking the time out of your day to create the "forum ettiquette" guide basically. While I am rather new to this forum....I'm not new to relationship building. This forum is an amazing resource everyone. You can build amazingly profitable relationships here. Use it don't abuse it. Moderators are typically very unforgiving to spammers and scammers. Thanks again for the e-guide....it's a quick read and nice to get the reminders.

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  • Profile picture of the author Murt@gh
    It is important for anyone to try and talk about the positive, what use is everyone talking about the negative. It is just draining at times.

    Nice to see a direct download
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    • Profile picture of the author TrishMullen
      Mike

      Can I just say that your report there is the most honest, genuine and heartfelt report I have EVER read since coming into IM and I really thank you for it. This is not one that will sit on my hard drive just eating at the memory - NO, I've printed this off and it will sit here right beside me because I will read this over and over and over again.

      I hope I never grow into one of those types described in your first class read.

      Once again, many thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author donhx
    Great stuff, Mike. Sadly, the people who need that information the most probably won't read it. There is some sort of Law about that I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dosty
    The best part was the section entitled 'Don't Be a Damn Fool About Buying WSOs'. Great advice Mike.
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    • Profile picture of the author polrbearz
      Mike:

      Thanks for the post. It's very useful for a newbie like me to see an "insider's" perspective---someone who's been here for a while and seen the Forum grow--with all its growing pains.

      Lots of things are "better" when they're newer: undervalued stocks that are "under the radar of analysts", "undiscovered" little restaurants, etc. These things change---usually for the worst---when the explorers are replaced by the masses. The United States itself is a good example: there's a (possibly apocryphal) story out there that says that the Founders really didn't EXPECT this country to last for more than about 100 years. They figured that "after the lawyers have their way with it" it would become something else entirely. So---any way you look at it, we are probably exceeding their expectations
      The degree that we may have strayed off course is a matter of debate, naturally.

      Forums like WF may be the exception since dynamic interchanges benefit from "network effects"---much like eBay, etc. IF something like WF can survive its growing pains, it CAN be better than ever---at least in certain ways. Your report seems like one of those important reality checks that comes along every so often (if we're lucky) to help temper that growth and keep it in the right direction.

      Your report also echoes my experience as I've involved myself in WF over the last month. I've just come out of period where I had MEANT to educate myself more at IM but instead have been busy as a "warrior" for my family who really needed me 100%. That was well-spent and I am proud to have stepped up and done what was needed. But it did delay a much-needed transition to a new business model--something that I must do. In my enthusiasm, I have been one of those newbies who has probably bought too many WSO's ---asked too many ungrounded questions--etc. But I have done SOME things right and I do learn quickly.

      Like you, I do want to be a positive member of WF. Here's one newbie that you can definitely say that you have had a good influence on. Thanks again for this report---it was very timely for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    TPF, your comment...
    I think you could have pointed out that a lot (most?) WSO's offer very generous guarantees , to at least cover the costs if not satisfied and that is may be a point that need to be more prominent in your guide.

    Thanks, TPF--noted, and if I get time tonight I'll change it to include your point. I'll give you a thanks as well. If anyone else has any suggestions, hit me up and let me know. I value your opinions! --Mike

    P.S. Hurrah for Paul in the video! When you've got good stuff, that kind of guarantee only strengthens the public confidence in your offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Mike, I've finished reading your ebook. I have implemented everything that you taught and have had great success, but it was not for me. How can I get a refund? If I don't hear back in the next minute, I will be leaving a negative review and reporting you to the BBB. Please let me know when you have more products for sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      Mike, I've finished reading your ebook. I have implemented everything that you taught and have had great success, but it was not for me. How can I get a refund? If I don't hear back in the next minute, I will be leaving a negative review and reporting you to the BBB. Please let me know when you have more products for sale.
      Please see my last post quoted above. I have not heard back from you and it has been well past my deadline of one minute. I will give you one more minute and then I am alerting the National Guard.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
        Stop Brian! No, no, no... I can't take the pressure. Hope I get this in before the next minute is up! Send me your receipt number and I'll take care of your refund. But Brian, this is the fourth product of mine you've refunded in the past week. Come on, I'm tryin' to put food on the table here guy !
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        • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
          Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

          Stop Brian! No, no, no... I can't take the pressure. Hope I get this in before the next minute is up! Send me your receipt number and I'll take care of your refund. But Brian, this is the fourth product of mine you've refunded in the past week. Come on, I'm tryin' to put food on the table here guy !
          Don't worry, I will buy your next product too. I won't ask for a refund until one day before the guarantee period ends, so it is like I am loaning you money for food. You should thank me for doing this.
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          • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
            Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

            Don't worry, I will buy your next product too. I won't ask for a refund until one day before the guarantee period ends, so it is like I am loaning you money for food. You should thank me for doing this.
            If you're a man of your word, order now!

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Well done, Mr. McMillan...

      Got to the section on how to whine and complain, and all I could think of was this:


      If every ranter were this cute, and had a voice this sweet, I'd want a special section just for it...
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      • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
        John, You've crossed the line. Stop daydreaming about Linda Ronstadt. That's my job. I work full time at it. I take it seriously. Really, what a babe--and the voice, well--she's something special. John, you're married, I'm not--I'm better suited to taking care of her needs. I'll resort to blackmail if needed... she belongs to me, if only in my dreams! --Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
          Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

          John, You've crossed the line. Stop daydreaming about Linda Ronstadt. That's my job. I work full time at it. I take it seriously. Really, what a babe
          Perhaps you are stuck in the 70's. Here's Linda now...


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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Am I the only one thinking that Mike(OP) and TPF are not talking about the same thing when mentioning "guarantee"?

    As I read the report it was against those liars that say on their sales page (be it WSO or otherwise) that if you buy this crap you will earn $5,389.12 in a week - guaranteed!
    When seeing those I also reach for my Uzi...

    And for digital downloads I do not offer explicitly any guarantee: you cannot return it as in the case of physical products, so it doesn't make sense to have a 'refund guarantee'.
    (I am not saying I don't refund occasionally... I just don't put up any guarantee texts/badges.)
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    • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Am I the only one thinking that Mike(OP) and TPF are not talking about the same thing when mentioning "guarantee"?

      As I read the report it was against those liars that say on their sales page (be it WSO or otherwise) that if you buy this crap you will earn $5,389.12 in a week - guaranteed!
      When seeing those I also reach for my Uzi...

      And for digital downloads I do not offer explicitly any guarantee: you cannot return it as in the case of physical products, so it doesn't make sense to have a 'refund guarantee'.
      (I am not saying I don't refund occasionally... I just don't put up any guarantee texts/badges.)
      Yes , they are just a lot of type of guarantees, the one you mentioned in your post is, if that's all it says is of course, a waste of a guarantee.

      I just felt there was some room to talk about guarantees in a more encompassing way...And wanted mike to expand on it.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
        Originally Posted by TPFLegionaire View Post

        I just felt there was some room to talk about guarantees in a more encompassing way...And wanted mike to expand on it.
        There's plenty of room to talk about such things TPF. Thanks! --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Eko Ventures
    That was a great read! Though I have to say as I was making my way through it I kept thinking to myself "Is this really stuff people don't have a grasp of? It's common sense!" sadly common sense isn't all that common in this day and age.

    Either way, thanks for this - it was certainly a refreshing reminder that not everybody is oblivious to ins and outs of personal composure when in a public domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonWebContent
    Hey Mike,

    I need $250,000 within 6 days to pay off the loan on my private jet. If I don't, they will take it away. Do you know how embarrassing that will be when I have to DRIVE my kids that I don't have to school as opposed to flying them like a real father does?

    Mike, you don't want that to happen, do you? Look, I'm desperate. I'm not asking for much. I just want you to spoon feed me EXACTLY how I can make this amount of money online in 6 days.

    I have been trying to get a job, I really have. I applied at Taco Bell, but they laughed at me when I told them I need $10,000 per hour. The manager is quite the negotiator - he offered $8/hour. I said "how's about $9,500?". He said "how's about $8?". I said "deal!".

    So you can't accuse me of not trying and just attempting to freeload on your knowledge. I got me a job. But, if my math is correct, that will only account for about $190 out of the $250,000 I need.

    Please Mike, help me. Do it for my non-existent kids. Help me, help you make me rich!
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    I loved it and agree with everything you said, great book, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
    Wait - So you're NOT going to tell me what you would do if you had $328,985 to invest in IM?

    /sarcasm

    Good read Mike! Hopefully people see this and put it to good use.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Originally Posted by bhuff85 View Post

      Wait - So you're NOT going to tell me what you would do if you had $328,985 to invest in IM?
      /sarcasm
      Good read Mike! Hopefully people see this and put it to good use.


      I have big dreams. I haven't decided yet. Besides, they say that men who live within their means suffer from a certain lack of creativity. Thanks bhuff85!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    It's a sad form of entertainment, but apparently some sick
    twisted individuals find pleasure in it.
    GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

    Nice read BTW.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Great guide, Mike. This is a very educational primer that should be mandatory reading for every newbie that joins this forum!

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Paulie888,
    <<Great guide, Mike. This is a very educational primer that should be mandatory reading for every newbie that joins this forum! >>

    Thanks Paul, means a lot coming from you! --Mike

    JasonMorgan,
    <<GET OUT OF MY HEAD!>>

    Kind of interesting in there (in a scary sort of way) .

    Steveshills,
    <<I loved it and agree with everything you said, great book, thanks >>

    Thanks Steven!
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    Nice article there Mike! Thanks for writing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Sincere thanks to Roaddog, darrenmonroe, LD Carter, tpw, rkcc4, Cay78, Bill Farnham, Palusko, JMichaelZ, Richard Van, Dennis Gaskill, EA. ronsang90, donaldwilson, Murt@gh, donhx, TrishMullen, Dosty, Yasha, JonWebContent... and anyone I missed or couldn't thank. You're good people. Nice to have met you! --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    Nothing but the truth.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      <<Nothing but the truth.>>

      Pretty much so, I think! --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    I was not going to click the link until I saw a couple posts that it should be a sticky. Glad I clicked.

    I loved it. My favorite part was in the section "How Do I Make Mony Online?"

    That's like walking into a doctor's office and saying, "I lost my
    job last week and need money. I've got 10 minutes. Can you
    show me how to do a liver transplant to make some extra

    income?"


    It also has to be one of the best TITLES.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Yeah, Janice, the doctor's office thingie would be scary! Fortunately I think it still takes many years to get a medical degree. I hope! --Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Just_Mel
        Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

        Yeah, Janice, the doctor's office thingie would be scary! Fortunately I think it still takes many years to get a medical degree. I hope! --Mike
        Well you know, they do call it 'practice' for a reason...

        Seriously though, I completely agree this should be a sticky and/or prerequisite to getting a username! Negativity abounds and it is very aggravating when people just want to whine & complain but not do ANYTHING to help themselves. Can't stand people like that in real life, can't stand it online either!

        And I say this even though I'm one that would apparently set off the 'scam & untrustworthy' alert system - due to my lack of post/thanks. However, I have been around here for a long time - just usually only jump in when warranted! I'm a lurker

        Anyway kudos man. This was way overdue and well put

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  • Profile picture of the author abhi1
    Woah! That was one good read. I have to admit, this is THE best damn thing that
    I've read in last 4 months. Great stuff Mike...
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  • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
    I was given a review copy. It is good. I would recommend it.





    Guaranteed earnings are bit silly, with earnings not being the same as profits and so on but big numbers do seem to attract. It's a bling-thing I guess.

    Let's start a revolución! :p

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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Originally Posted by mrdomains View Post

      I was given a review copy. It is good. I would recommend it.
      Let's start a revolución! :p
      "No number in WSO title! Vota No! Vota No!"


      que la revolución comienza!
      --Michael (Che) McMillan
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    yea its interesting post and read for i will go for this stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeid Makkawi
    Arghh, hopefuly the review copies still there. Anyway how much you'll sell it for?
    Maybe im gonna buy it, as long you give lifetime guarantee for this guide.

    ps: Thanks for your post, just finished reading it. Really good read, and
    it helps me to understand a lot of aspect about IM Community.
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Well worth the 10 minutes it took me to read.

    And I've been around this forum for at least 8 years -
    it's likely to be worth a lot more to those who are
    new to this place.

    Thanks for putting this together, Mike. Deeply
    appreciated

    All success
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Dr. Mani,
      You exemplify all of the good things I said about Forum members in my booklet, both in your work online and off. Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Eliot Proud
    Cheers Mike

    I think that everyone who joins the Warriors Forum should be made to read that before they are accepted.

    Sorta like please read these terms and conditions before joining

    It does raise one important question though.

    How Do I Make Money Online?

    Eliot
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

    Wanted to give back just a bit here. I've developed a little booklet that will offend, outrage, and insult almost all Warriors--and yet, some may find a few words of wisdom within it. Maybe it will help you earn; Hopefully it will help you think.

    No opt-in required. No links inside. No self-promotional B.S.

    Direct download link: http://bit.ly/gMr1yj

    Hope you find it useful.


    --Mike
    Page 9 is very good. Sage advice.

    As for the wso reviews from scammers... another point to look out for is when you ask legitimate questions about a product or their claims, and they get all aggressive and threaten to have you banned etc.

    As a paying customer, you are entitled to ask questions before buying.

    I recall one guy claiming he made a five figure income from a WSO... what he didn't reveal was that he used a wso to drive traffic to his CB link and boost gravity.. then flip the site.

    Semantics? Well maybe, but his implication was that he made the $$ from the WSO, and did not mention flipping.

    When I questioned this, he replied with the mother of all verbal sprays.

    Haven't seen him lately.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    ... and you might wish to add that people who ask THAT question about how to make a sum in a set time, should also have the decency to at least reply in the the thread and say thanks to those who have given advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
      Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

      ... and you might wish to add that people who ask THAT question about how to make a sum in a set time, should also have the decency to at least reply in the the thread and say thanks to those who have given advice.
      I'm going to make that change and reload it later today Sal. Yeah, that's only common courtesy, I agree! --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulMark
    Hey Mike!

    Thanks for the love. Great report and fun. Telling it like it is is always welcomed!

    There's always going to be the whining right?

    Mainly because most folks are employees. They've always been told what to do, they do it and even if they do it wrong they still get a stinkin' check. How weird is that?

    So they come be-bopping into IM with the same expectation. "Tell me what to do, I'll barely do it and I better get paid or someone is a liar!"

    Ahhhh... it's no wonder the failure rate online and offline is embarrassing.

    It's not that these are bad folks, they're just trained folks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Whathell
    <<Arghh, hopefuly the review copies still there.>>


    They're still here. --Mike

    Thanks for the nice comment abhi1! --Mike

    Eliot Proud,
    <<It does raise one important question though. How Do I Make Money Online?>>

    --That's classified info Eliot. You don't have clearance

    Sal64,
    <<As a paying customer, you are entitled to ask questions before buying.>>


    You're damn right Sal. Some of the WSOs won't even tell you the slightest thing about the "secret technique" they are selling. It's like you go to a car dealer and they have one vehicle covered in a tarp and a sign with the price tag saying: $55,392. They won't tell you the make, model, year, mileage, anything like that... but they want you to buy it blind for 55k. Maybe it's just me, but I like to know a bit about what I'm buying before I go for it. --Mike
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    Hey Mike,

    Really helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author pizzatherapy
    Great, e-book, Mike.

    I think your e-book should be rquired reading for every newbie that registers here.

    I thought your Rants on WSO's was particularly insightful. I have purchsed several WSO's that I felt were not up to my standards for useful information.

    But ask for a refund? Never. I made the choice, I made the decision. I spent the money.

    Most WSO's I have purchased have been very worthwhile investments. Some have been very mediocre. I have learned from all of them.

    Anyway thanks for taking the time to put this e-book together...
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Thanks Pizzatherapy! Pizza and Hawaii. Life could be worse!!!

    <<Most WSO's I have purchased have been very worthwhile investments. Some have been very mediocre. I have learned from all of them.>>

    Like I said, I have learned a lot from people I may not agree with but that have experience and knowledge of value. --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author MChriston
    Shooting from the hip! A true no BS guide! ...Love it.

    RE: 'serial refunders'... I'm big on quality and want to make sure that everything I put out is the very best I can offer. However... It's sad but true that when I compare my refund stats for 'normal sales' vs 'WSO sales' (of the same product), the refund rate for both of my WSO's was noticeably higher than normal sales.

    (and of course, the WSO was an offer so had a much lower ticket price...)

    Now those stats could be just a fluke as admittedly two WSOs is hardly a large study!

    ...but there is definitely a suggestion of different buying habits within the forum. So given WF is (like you say in the report) a "community"... it would be a great shame if there are 'serial refunders' stalking this friendly forum.

    Great report, Mike ...and definitely gets my vote for it being 'Sticky'

    All the best,

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Karan Goel
    For lazies out there, something important I'd like to quote from the book:

    There is a ton of great information for sale in the WSO section, but there is also some 3rd rate material promoted with overly-hyped, misleading pitches. Think twice about what you buy and who you are buying it from. There is a lot of gold in there offered by some really good people, but there is also some slag. Be an intelligent, thoughtful buyer.
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    Mike,

    Great book, nice read. A lot of humor. I was glued to it until I read it. ;-)

    Again, it's a must read for all Warriors.

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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Crofford
    Great job Mike. This should be required reading for everyone.

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Hey Craig,
    Glad to see your post, my friend! God bless you and yours. I know things are a mess over there right now with all of the stuff going on. Without saying, all Warrior thoughts are with the Japanese in their hour of need. Keep in touch! -Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author trebor58
      Mike

      As a total newbie to the forum and to (trying) to make money online, I was reading through all the various threads when I came across your thread entitled “500 Review Copies: Serial Refunding, Complaining, Bitch & Moan WF Guide” and to be honest with you I was going to give it a miss, but read through all the post and started to get curious when I kept reading comments like

      Great guide, Mike. This is a very educational primer that should be mandatory reading for every newbie that joins this forum! (paulie888)

      I think that everyone who joins the Warriors Forum should be made to read that before they are accepted. (Eliot Proud)

      I think your e-book should be required reading for every newbie that registers here.
      (pizzatherapy)

      As a newbie I thought maybe this would help me through the minefield of Scammers, Con artist, and “I made 20 zillion dollars whilst I slept last night and so can you?? Brigade

      You know the sales pitch
      Just send me $20 and I will show you how” Now surely even the most gullible of people can’t be taken in by that! Can they?? I see it that if this person is making zillions of dollars in their sleep I think this is so good of them to share this awesome information with me during their waking hours and for OH such a small sum of money. Kidding.

      But going back to the book, I laughed I was embarrassed, and was ashamed. After all 24 pages I read it again. I agree that it would make a great introduction FREEBIE when someone joins the forum (maybe the mods will consider it).

      I have taken snippets from your book and pasted them in to word doc and I have printed them out (hope this does not infringe copyrights) and I am going to use them as guides and inspiration posters.

      So a big thank you for educating a total newbie within a few minutes.

      I am going to go back and do some more reading, and maybe I will find the goose that lays the golden eggs, as opposed to the vulture that prays on the vulnerable newbie.

      Trebor58

      I did come across this post and was unsure what it meant?

      I was not going to click the link until I saw a couple posts that it should be a sticky (Janice Sperry)
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  • Profile picture of the author Anup Mahajan
    Simply amazing Mike.. A must read for every warrior
    Thanks for taking your time to put down this information...

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  • Profile picture of the author pearlydean
    The Brian's price tag made me laugh!

    Great info Mike and it is good to know that there are other people who care about these things.

    Thanks for the insight.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    A truly great gift mike, you've distilled common sense into a fine document!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Trebor58,

    Thanks for the kind words Trebor. Good luck with all you do here--it's a great place to learn a lot of valuable skills. My Best--Mike
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    Always helping to make the community better, awesome. Taking action is the right step not complaining and moaning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Duquette
    hi Mike,

    your ebook is awesome !, I'm newbie, non-US, running WSO. Thanks god I don't give any refund nor guarantee badge (coz I know my product have it's quality :p)

    but still, I hate you Mike, I really hate you. now I can't do anything stupid, you're responsible for this Mike, yeah, you really are. If you don't thanks my post, I'll share this ebook, upload it in some file sharing website. and spread the virus. mwahahahaha *evil laugh*

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    Thanks for this. I really think that there are a lot of people who do scam but we can all get over it. This ebook you wrote will really bring some good attention to the topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Shaw
    Hi Mike,

    I found the advice you put on my post to be really usefull and intuitive, and thought I would have a look at some more of your posts, I downloaded a review copy and had a read, its a good resource for anyone here on the forum, and any newcomers in the future,

    Thanks again,
    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
    Very good read for what to look out as a newbie, but also what to expect.

    And I find the sociology of forums very interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Little
    That was highly entertaining Mike. All of it's true, and I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I was reading it
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    STEVEO, THEEMPEROR, MIKE MCALEER: Thanks guys, nice to meet you all!

    CHRISTIAN LITTLE:

    <<All of it's true, and I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I was reading it.>>

    Christian, that's ok--I almost fell out of my chair writing parts of it. Glad you liked it. Nice to meet you as well. --Mike

    DUQUETTE:
    <<...but still, I hate you Mike, I really hate you. now I can't do anything stupid>>

    Hey, I do stupid things every day! Don't let my booklet stop you! Ha, ha --Mike

    ERGOSUM: Thanks, Chris. Until recently my daughter lived in London for 3 years and loved it. Nice to meet you, Chris! --Mike

    BUCKEYES09
    : Thanks for the comment, Chris. From Ohio?--you're practically a neighbor to me in Michigan. We can be friends here on the WF, but on Saturday afternoons during college football season ya know I'm going to be rooootin' for the Wolverines! Thanks again! --Mike

    Just_Mel:

    <<I'm a lurker. Anyway kudos man. This was way overdue and well put.>>

    Thanks, Mel. Nice to meet you as well! Hey, keep on lurking--no law against that here. Thanks again. --Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      BUCKEYES09: Thanks for the comment, Chris. From Ohio?--you're practically a neighbor to me in Michigan. We can be friends here on the WF, but on Saturday afternoons during college football season ya know I'm going to be rooootin' for the Wolverines! Thanks again! --Mike
      Well, we had a game last week.

      Good luck in the tourney; I need you guys to win a game!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jun Balona
    Just finished reading it Mike.

    It is as it is. A good read IMHO.

    I affirm what you have said. We truly are a family here.

    And that is what matters the most.



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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Thanks Mike!

    You did an amazing job in expressing things in a nice enough way so that it can be assimilated by almost everybody.

    HP
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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    Mike,

    If I found that your materials do not benefit me or not suitable for me, can I ask for a refund?

    Oh I just realised this book is free.

    Lester
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