The Easiest Money I Ever Made Online

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This is a quick simple post. Two years ago I found out about Geo-Arbitrage. This is simply outsourcing expensive work to less developed countries for a fee.

I operated as a Flash website design company. (even though I know very little about web design and even much less about Flash websites) My clients were US busineses and my workers were international freelance designers.

Ok so here is how simple the structure was to setup. I went to rent-a-coder and got a guy in India who was willing to do each Flash website for $50. I then went on Craigslist posted several posts offering my services to design flash websites for $150 each. I focused on large US citied like Atlanta etc. In no time I was getting jobs and my guy in India turned them out in 2 days each. The first week we did 3 websites netting me $300. Not bad for just being the middle man.
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  • Well, nice example. One can do it with many many things, not only flash sites.
  • i find selling domains easiest.
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    • Webcosmo,

      Can you tell me how to sell domains? I have one I am not using and yet I have to pay for it for the next 10 months.
      Thanks!
    • Yes webcosmo, would you be willing to outline your process of acquiring and selling websites? Each of us has a different approach to the same problem.
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    • Webcosmo,
      Could you elaborate a bit more about it ? Thank you.
      Meharis
  • Wow this method is a lot harder than it sounded

    Check out Flippa.com
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  • Now, imagine if instead of a quick, simple post, you had written it up a little fancier, had a nice sales page done, and put it up on clickbank for $500 a pop. Well, somebody did.

    There's easy money, then there's easy MONEY.
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    • Thought of it but I want to do something original when I sell a big ticket item.
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  • I have to agree with Oxbloom here.

    Ever hear the phrase "work smarter not harder"? I think we all have, yet when we actually start working, that's not what we do!
  • The good old "buy-sell" method. Oldest trick in the book, but not always that easy to implement. The problems usually arise in finding a reliable worker that will actually deliver on time.
  • Your business plan sounds good. It can still be used today for a lot of different services. If you stack it up and offer a lot of different services in different areas, this can work out well. However, you would need to have good outsourcers that you can rely on at all times. The hardest part is finding quality workers that are willing to put the time in to do the job within a reasonable time frame.
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  • Don't you just love outsourcing
  • This buy sell method won't last too long as people become aware of how they can find the Indian coder themselves.
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    • I really doubt that. Look, there is a wholesale down the road from us at half price on grocery yet there is a large number of people who prefer to go to the supermarket. They just think the supermarket has better quality than the wholesale. Even thoughis they sell the same things, Some people look at price and think the higher the price the better the quality. My friend has an automotive store and he sells BMW parts he told me that his competitors sell to make a markup o 200% he used to sell to a markup of 100% and people hardly bought. Yet when he increased it to almost 200% he now does more than a million dollars in sales.
    • I think that's about the same as saying that people won't go to the store to buy t-shirts because they can find somebody in China to make them one for 1/10 of the price.

      Most business owners are too busy running their businesses. The last thing they want it to get somebody from another country and hire them. This type of service will always be needed, as long as there is Internet.
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    • I do not see that happening for the average and user. Otherwise we would be ordering our gym shoes from china.

      Rick
  • Why? Why just give away your biz model to about 10,000+ competitors? Nice share but sometimes I cringe...
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    • Because 95% of people wont do a thing about it...except HDD dust collection.
      Meharis
    • Give my friend. The only reason I give this freely is to help so many struggling Internet marketers and newbies. I have learnt a lot of stuff freely here on warrior forum, it would be a sin for me to not help others as I have been helped. One cannot think only of one's self but of others. What goes around comes.....
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    • Agree. "Hole-hartedly." He just gave up a brick of gold for an ingot of IRON!
  • pretty amazing such a great idea!
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  • it's very interesting story..And This is a very unique succes story that i've never read..COngratulation man..By the way..Do you still do this job until now..?
  • Maybe that's true but 5% of 10,000+ is one hell of a lot of extra competition...

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    • 1. Maybe hell for you. Almost nothing to me.
      2. Looks like your glass is "Half Empty"
      3. Have you ever heard "What goes around comes..... "
      4. Number 3 it's free to practice.
      Meharis
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  • Good technique to earn online.

    But as a middle man $100 and the worker $50! It is not so good.

    Middle man $50 and worker $100 is good.
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    • Do you ever see the factory worker getting paid more than his supervisor? Never! it is very fair. I pay him exactly what he asked for, I did not haggle with him over his price and the people who we do business with pay me exactly what I ask them. No one is cheated in anyway.
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    That's a good plan and a nice success story. And as a middle man - thumbs up.
    Afterall the worker won't get the job if you didn't bring it his way.
    More grease to your elbows!
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  • It's a great and simple idea, it would work fantastically well in the offline marketing world IMO.

    As long as you know about what you're proposing to do for a particular business, there's absolutely nothing wrong with outsourcing the work.

    Most businesses, especially small ones, have absolutely no clue how to set up a website for themselves, never mind going into the intricacies of SEO, etc.

    Just because you charge $150 for a service and outsource the work for $50 doesn't mean you aren't providing the service you promised.

    Makes sense to me. After all, do you think supermarkets produce all their products, or do they buy them from someone else and sell them at a higher price to you and I?!

    Thanks for the thread, some sound advice there!
  • Thats nice, but identifying prospective customers and marketing is difficult and not as easy maybe you could be lucky.

    cheers
    Josh
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    • Orangecopper, you need to have faith and try. I just hate when someone sits down and makes up their mind that it will not work for them before they give it a try. If that is your attitude you will never get anywhere.
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  • How come you didn't focus on content and trying to make money from Google AdSense, and affiliate programs? Do you market affiliate programs online?
  • I do this from time to time myself. The hardest part is finding trustworthy people on Craigslist. Some will scam you dry and you'll be out $50 with a useless flash template on your hands!
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    • That could have been the case but I do not like taking risk so I ask for 50% upfront then the balance on completion. Never had an issue. Also I never paid designer until I got job that paid half and I paid only after work done even though the money was in escrow. That way he is happy and I am happy.
  • If you've ever seen The Wire there is business lessons to be learned amongst the drug ravaged scenes of Balitmore, Maryland...

    As Proposition Joe states - "Buy for a dollar... sell for two... it's all in the game!"
  • Awesome for you man! That's definitely a pretty sharp operation, the whole Geo-arbitrage thing and websites. Nice.
  • I see too many people run on this forum and give away thier bizz idea...I scratch my head and wonder why....Ego? Naive? Boredom? I do not know .....Thanks anyway. I am sure many appreciate the free meal ticket.


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    • Ya, I guess it's better to be stingy and not share:confused:
  • I like how so many people immediately jumped bad on this idea - it's unfair, it's a dead end model, or it's simply deceptive.

    Maybe you guys haven't heard of Bill Gates (but I know you have)... how do you think he built his empire? He sat in a garage, slaving away to earn $50,000 for his most popular operating system? Sorry, but Mr. Gates signed his first huge deal with IBM by selling an operating system he didn't have and then 'outsourced' (more like outright bought) the DOS system from a third-party. He paid $50,000 and went right back to IBM to pick up his first 1/2 million dollar monthly licensing payment - the first of many, many millions made off of someone else's work. The DOS creator got paid twice the amount he would've taken for his OS and Gates...well, you can see how well it all worked out for him.

    Brilliant strategy. Call it arbitrage, call it lead generation, call it profiting off the work of others... it doesn't matter, it's a gold ticket to monetary success in the right market.
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  • Thanks!

    I'm always fascinated by the differences in the value of a dollar in different areas.

    For example, when I was a Realtor, I listed and sold a home for a Filipino soldier who was retiring after 20 years in the US Army.

    He was going back to the Philippines for his retirement, and although he would have a military pension of only 1/2 his regular pay (I think about $20,000/yr in his case) he told me he would have a higher standard of living than the typical M.D. there.

    He was buying a sort of hacienda with huge square footage, courtyard and would have multiple servants!

    Of course, even in the US, areas can differ drastically.

    A home, for example, that costs $150,000 in Clarksville, Tennessee (where I live), would cost $400,000 or more in Long Island, New York. More in some parts of California.

    Digimix,

    Just curious... Do you know how Jamaica compares with the US? -- I see TV commercials for Jamaica that advertise exotic beaches and classy highrise hotels, but I know daily life in a typical town must be different, as it is in most of the US

    Terry Rayburn
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    • Jamaica is very different to USA. Life can be easier in some ways and it can be harder in some ways. For example, the cost of US goods is definitely higher here but it is a country where it is hard for you to go hungry as every home or yard has a few fruit trees. You can live off the land. Real estate prices might be lower in typical towns but can be higher in tourist areas. Sometimes as high as US homes. Overall I believe it is cheaper to live here than the US and that is reflected in the pay scale of workers here. For that reason there are very few of my collegues from architecture school still in the country. Most have migrated to the US and Canada for the higher salary.

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  • Huge possibility to earn more if you can post up other classified ad for other services as well. Now if i can just gain confidence to do this as well. There are good freelancers found in forums, odesk freelancer.com etc

    Andrea
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    • well done digimix on taking a good idea and getting profit out of it, thats what its all about in my opinion.
  • &^#$%mit! I do similar to that! You just added a brand new venue variation. Gawd-D#$*!

    THANK you! I also worship the dust on your shoes and the ground that you walkest on as well as another fellow warrior here.

  • Nice move.... That is how people get rich. With ideas like that. Thanks
  • Thanks for sharing. You have given me great ideas on how to make money by outsourcing. Im getting excited about this business plan
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  • Sssshhhhh... Why you are announcing your secret of making money online You shouldn't do that bro.. although I want to congratulate you for this success.
  • Y not mak a WSO and keep your mouth shut about it and make money off of this secret. oh geez.
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    • If you want to take and not give back to this forum fine, keep it to yourselves. Don't encourage others to do the same, this forum wouldn't be what it is today if everyone thought like you did.

      digimix Thanks for the great share, it's people like you that make this forum such an awesome community to be a part of.
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  • So true this. People say you get what you pay for. implying that if it's more expensive it has to be better..... I sell some software that I had made through eBay sometimes, two sales pages one double the price of the other just pitched differently. The one double the price makes just as many sales, and it's exactly the same.....


  • This is awesome. I'm actually going to begin doing something vastly similar this week:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...r-opinion.html

    Just curious - have you been closing all sales via e-mail? via telephone? Any tips on making the craigslist ad more powerful and on making the sale?

    Thanks!
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    • For all of you who think I am crazy for sharing my little business model here, I believe in good karma and I believe in helping others. When I just started IM there was nobody to help me along the way thanks however to a few friends who steered me in the right direction. I only want to do the same for others. Cringe all you like. The more I give is the more I make!
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      @digimix I'd like to know this too! ^
      Also, are you using a website to show your clients as well? In other words, do you have a flash website to present samples to your clients.
  • @digimix are you still consistently selling those sites online? Or did it turn out to be too much of a pain or too much work?

    Thanks!
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  • Thanks for the wonderful post digimix. Your attitude is great. Karma. People who are complaining about you revealing your "secret" are little fish. All the best to you in your business and I hope you will soon diversify into other profitable ventures.

    To everybody who thinks digimix is insane for sharing this: you don't have control over others, who do the same thing. You can't go on in business by hoping everything will stay the same. Things change. Today's golden nugget is going to turn into a lump of coal tomorrow. Instead of moaning about it, work, adapt, find other ways. You need multiple income streams and keep ahead of the game. That's what business is.
  • Going back to the original topic, thanks digimix for the link. I've always wondered where people get workers from overseas so inexpensively. Cheers.
  • Thanks Digimix. So simple, yet so effective.
  • Great method on how you can easily scale offline biz via freelancers!
  • I live in the Ukraine and my cost of living is mind boggling cheap. Sure I don't have access to the latest big screens, and technology that is released, but do I really care? Seriously, I sit in a cafe everyday and look at hot Russian Women all day while drinking beer. (Average cost is roughly $1.50-$3.00)

    My buying power is 8 -1 so living off $1200USD you live like a king.

    I laugh at the guy in North America working like a donkey trying to make $100,000 a year. He's taxed beyond belief and has to pay ridiculous amounts of money for food, shelter, and entertainment.

    Save yourself a life of being a slave to consumerism and live overseas. It takes awhile to adjust to what life should be, but within time you will never go back and live in the rat race of North America.

    This is just my two cents.
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    • Thanks, DigiMix, for the share. When at my best, I love to arbitrage, especially barter items... always great money to be had there. Need to get my sales shoes on again and post some Craigslist ads. I've ALWAYS gotten responses within 24 hours there, no matter what I've posted. It's surprising that way.

      To the happy Ukraine expat... I totally agree with your changed expectations and comparative wealth awakening. It was like that for me when teaching in the Republic of Georgia, another former Soviet Union country. Loved the people, the community, and how much a dollar could buy there. Suddenly, my idea of wealth and work and happiness and contentment changed. When I returned to the USA, it hit me like a ton of bricks... fell ill... then discovered just how much of a fortune it takes to "earn" your way back up the wealth ladder here. Quite a shock! Now... I just want to go "home" and back to my rich-hearted community where a dollar buys so much.

      If typical people in the US really understood just how much a dollar can buy them overseas, they'd be travelling more and moving overseas more. With the eradication of so many online commerce barriers, I think that will happen more and more. Hemingway and the expats of his time have NOTHING on the thousands of expats I've met overseas these days. His seemed bored and depressed... today's are happy... and abundantly so.

      I've got my bags packed... Love my USA... but still... those bags are packed...
  • Excellent post! Excellent feedback! Excellent thread!
  • Nice. An example of how easy it really can be.
  • *hopes Digimix will come back and update us on this
  • what happens if you have complaints or the coders take too long or make mistakes? and how do you find good coders? on that website?
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  • I have just used the same outsourcing philosophy to save me thousands of dollars. This TV commercial is for my very own physical product I sell here in Jamaica. It would have cost me easily over $2000 to have this made the traditional way however I paid a grand total of $200 for everything including the actor, cameraman and the virtual studio graphics!
  • This is a great business model. I had heard about it from a friend on Youtube, and have just started to get into it.

    I'm going into web design and I have 5 designers in place that are all hungry for work and agree to this model of business. My website is made, with the best work that the designers have previously done. I'm now starting to promote it with things like Craigslist ads, a Warrior for Hire ad, cold calling and contacting people and businesses on social media sites like Youtube and Facebook.

    I hope that I get some work in soon. The best thing about this model is that all I do is get the clients and make sure each project runs smoothly, while the amazing designers do all the work. It's great and each project will make me around $100-200.
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    • Mattwell, that is the spirit.once you wrap your mind around how simple the model is you can implement easily.
  • thanks digimix,great post i will try this out.
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    The Easiest Money I Ever Made Online

    This is a quick simple post. Two years ago I found out about Geo-Arbitrage. This is simply outsourcing expensive work to less developed countries for a fee. I operated as a Flash website design company. (even though I know very little about web design and even much less about Flash websites) My clients were US busineses and my workers were international freelance designers.