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13 years ago

I have always steered clear of this type of article publishing because it leaves the author with no control following submission.

When you pub lish your articles on your own website or on EzineArticles and other directories, you have the ability to ping and backlink to those articles once they have been published. It seems that handing them off to MyArticleNetwork robs you of that vital step.

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Matt_S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AnniePot

I have always steered clear of this type of article publishing because it leaves the author with no control following submission.

When you pub lish your articles on your own website or on EzineArticles and other directories, you have the ability to ping and backlink to those articles once they have been published. It seems that handing them off to MyArticleNetwork robs you of that vital step.

Hey AnniePot, so would you suggest putting my articles on my own website, then re-publishing in EzineArticles with a link back to the original article posted on my own website?

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AnniePot

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt_S

Hey AnniePot, so would you suggest putting my articles on my own website, then re-publishing in EzineArticles with a link back to the original article posted on my own website?

Absolutely! Always publish your articles on your own website/blog first and only move forward to publishing them on article directories AFTER they have been indexed on your own site. Give your own site the benefit of your own hard work first.

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ElectronPlumber

13 years ago

Given that there isn't some technical problem (you mistyped your URL or something), most article networks aren't worth much without more links to them. You need to cross link.

Imagine this. You make a web site and throw 10000 articles up on it with no external links to any of the articles. Google and Yahoo are going to look at that 10000 article site and just ignore the whole thing.

Does MyArticleNetwork let you see the URLs of those reported "7000" article publishings? If not, drop it now and move to one that does.

If yes, take that list and start cross linking!

Make an OnlyWire account and start submitting those published articles to social media sites to force the search engines to pay attention to them. You can do 300 posts a month for free I think.

Make some free Feedage RSS feeds that contain a couple hundred of your articles, then point some links to that Feedage page. Use your next months MyArticleNetwork submissions to only link the Feedage feed that contains all your other articles, then submit those published articles to OnlyWire.

So you'll have Social Media links --> Articles --> Feedage Page --> All your other Articles --> Your Links. Search engines eat that sort of stuff up. Rinse, repeat.

Spend the next couple of days doing this and you'll make the search engines sit up and take notice of all those published articles over the next couple of months.

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Matt_S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ElectronPlumber

Given that there isn't some technical problem (you mistyped your URL or something), most article networks aren't worth much without more links to them. You need to cross link.

No problems there, all articles link to correct homepage url

Originally Posted by ElectronPlumber

Does MyArticleNetwork let you see the URLs of those reported "7000" article publishings? If not, drop it now and move to one that does.

As far as I know I have no way of knowing where these articles are at all. Very few show up on google or yahoo site explorer etc as they are not getting indexed. So should I forget the 7000 articles and myarticlenetwork?

Originally Posted by ElectronPlumber

Make an OnlyWire account and start submitting those published articles to social media sites to force the search engines to pay attention to them. You can do 300 posts a month for free I think.

Make some free Feedage RSS feeds that contain a couple hundred of your articles, then point some links to that Feedage page. Use your next months MyArticleNetwork submissions to only link the Feedage feed that contains all your other articles, then submit those published articles to OnlyWire.

So you'll have Social Media links --> Articles --> Feedage Page --> All your other Articles --> Your Links. Search engines eat that sort of stuff up. Rinse, repeat.

Spend the next couple of days doing this and you'll make the search engines sit up and take notice of all those published articles over the next couple of months.

This part is new to me so thank you for this info. So am I right thinking I need to dump myarticlenetwork? Post my articles on my own site first? let index. submit to ezinearticles. then pass ezinearticle to onlywire SM sites? with ezinearticle having link to original article on my own website?

Have I worked that out correctly? Or am I on the road to wasting another 2 years worth of articles?

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Tina Golden

13 years ago

Never post an article to EZA that links back to the original article on your site. That's a sure way to turn off any traffic you might get directly from your syndicated articles.

Link back to the home page of your site or a related article, not the same one.

Other than that, that is exactly what you should be doing. And of course, there are other sites that are useful for publishing those same articles, too.

Tina

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Matt_S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Never post an article to EZA that links back to the original article on your site. That's a sure way to turn off any traffic you might get directly from your syndicated articles.

Link back to the home page of your site or a related article, not the same one.

Other than that, that is exactly what you should be doing. And of course, there are other sites that are useful for publishing those same articles, too.

Tina

Tina I cannot thank you enough for clearing this up for me! I have wasted 7000+ published articles since 2009, I cannot believe it

I have sore eyes reading through another post (tried to paste link but not enough posts) which goes through the process in more detail. But I still could not work out where/what keyword links should be pointing to.

So links on all articles could technically just go to my homepage/categories as normal? And if 2nd link is used, perhaps to a previously published article?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

I'm with Annie, and Tina.

(Of course

).

Originally Posted by Matt_S

So links on all articles could technically just go to my homepage/categories as normal? And if 2nd link is used, perhaps to a previously published article?

Perhaps ... not ideal, though. And definitely not to an article-directory article!

I use the "two links" to my landing page and some other page on my site for which I want to do a bit of off-page SEO. So my landing page gets 50% of all my article directory links, and my other "inner pages" each get a few, kind of in inverse to proportion to how many of them there are. (But I have my prominent, incentivised opt-in on every page of my sites, usually in/near the top-right corner).

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Chris The Traffic Blogger

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I'm with Annie, and Tina.

(Of course

).

Perhaps ... not ideal, though. And definitely not to an article-directory article!

I use the "two links" to my landing page and some other page on my site for which I want to do a bit of off-page SEO. So my landing page gets 50% of all my article directory links, and my other "inner pages" each get a few, kind of in inverse to proportion to how many of them there are. (But I have my prominent, incentivised opt-in on every page of my sites, usually in/near the top-right corner).

Listen to this advice, it is spot on. I use the two links to give SEO loving to my home page and then also to another page on my site. You are only going to rank for so many keywords on your home page, better to use that SEO elsewhere so as to improve the individual pages on your site for predetermined long tail keywords.

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Matt_S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger

You are only going to rank for so many keywords on your home page, better to use that SEO elsewhere so as to improve the individual pages on your site for predetermined long tail keywords.

I did not know/think of limits to number of ranking keywords, thank you. Is there a rough guide to how many keywords should be targeted for a homepage?

I think I will use my main keywords (approx 3-4) for my homepage and use the others across the rest of the site. Would this be suitable? Or should I use a few more for the homepage? Most of my competitors seem to have their homepage ranking for all keywords?

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Chris The Traffic Blogger

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt_S

I did not know/think of limits to number of ranking keywords, thank you. Is there a rough guide to how many keywords should be targeted for a homepage?

I think I will use my main keywords (approx 3-4) for my homepage and use the others across the rest of the site. Would this be suitable? Or should I use a few more for the homepage? Most of my competitors seem to have their homepage ranking for all keywords?

Do whatever number you can manage, but it's difficult when your competition has the keyword in their title, their url address and throughout the page in question. It is easier to rank for a handful of keywords on an individual page than it is to try and get 1000 keywords to rank well for you.

If I google cataclysm gold guide my blog homepage comes up as #2 and if I type in wow gold blog I get #1 for my homepage.

However, if I type in "cataclysm engineering gold guide" into google I come up as #1 with a subpage.

Now, tell me, how could I rank #1 on my homepage for cataclysm engineering gold guide if those words are not in my title? It would be pretty damn hard that's what! Instead, I rank a page on my site for the keyword and had an article which pointed to that page on cataclysm engineering.

See the difference?

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Matt_S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I'm with Annie, and Tina.

(Of course

).

Perhaps ... not ideal, though. And definitely not to an article-directory article!

I use the "two links" to my landing page and some other page on my site for which I want to do a bit of off-page SEO. So my landing page gets 50% of all my article directory links, and my other "inner pages" each get a few, kind of in inverse to proportion to how many of them there are. (But I have my prominent, incentivised opt-in on every page of my sites, usually in/near the top-right corner).

Hey Alexa, thanks for input/advice. I am an art business selling canvas art and pop art portraits etc, so think I will use one link for the product page related to the article, as well as the homepage of my website for the second as I really need to get up the rankings for my homepage. Don't have an incentivised opt-in as such on each page, but I do have a B1G1 free offer on my main nav bar which is on every page. Perhaps something to think about in future though to pull clients in, thanks again for all help and advice, I 'greatly' appreciate it!

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Manuelcrc 13 years ago

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- Richard Van 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Manuelcrc
  
  I would advise you try something else my brother. If something doesn't work, try another.
  
  Hi Manuel,
  
  Don't take this the wrong way but before someone gets the wrong idea, you have 3 almost identical posts in this thread.
  
  I'm just politely suggesting you remove 2 of them before someone else see's it and get's all reporty on you.
  
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt_S

Hey Alexa, thanks for input/advice. I am an art business selling canvas art and pop art portraits etc, so think I will use one link for the product page related to the article, as well as the homepage of my website for the second as I really need to get up the rankings for my homepage.

Sounds fine to me.

(And if you put your site in your sig-file here, with appropriate anchor-text keywords, it'll get some good, extra backlinks and enable me to look, too, because I love art sites and spend ages browsing them anyway

).

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ElectronPlumber

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt_S

No problems there, all articles link to correct homepage url

As far as I know I have no way of knowing where these articles are at all. Very few show up on google or yahoo site explorer etc as they are not getting indexed. So should I forget the 7000 articles and myarticlenetwork?

This part is new to me so thank you for this info. So am I right thinking I need to dump myarticlenetwork? Post my articles on my own site first? let index. submit to ezinearticles. then pass ezinearticle to onlywire SM sites? with ezinearticle having link to original article on my own website?

Have I worked that out correctly? Or am I on the road to wasting another 2 years worth of articles?

I don't know much about My Article Network unfortunately, but consider that someone who tells you they've submitted 7000+ articles but you've only seen a couple of backlinks might be screwing you. They may have "submitted" the articles using some automated method, but who knows if they went through?

You want to develop a link pyramid back to your site. Don't know how the formatting will work out but:

Your Site
Article Sites Article Sites
Social Media Links, Feedage Feeds, Web 2.0 Links

So you make your site, then make a bunch of articles and submit them to articles sites. That's backlink level 1. Then you make some Mixx and Diigo and Digg and Reddit and Feedage accounts and submit links to your articles. That's level 2. Throw some Squidoo and Hubpages in there too, at either level 1 or level 2 or both!

Like Tina and Annie said, don't link articles to the same article on your site. That's a big turn off for a visitor. Honestly, I get VERY few visitors from article submissions, I mainly only do it for the backlinks.

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Matt_S

13 years ago

I read what I 'thought' was enough to get my link building campaign going. Signed up to MAN and went about my articles/re-writing etc. MAN was I wrong!

I feel so dumb for not constantly checking my results. Why did I not do that? The 'trying to run my business' excuse is not making me feel any better either, but not being in the seo business I just did not think about it enough. Hoping it would come in time. Wont do that again!

I thank everyone for their input and advice. Time to start again and make more frequent visits to this forum!

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frankfihn

13 years ago

If you're going to use MAN, free traffic system does the same thing anyways without the price tag. The problem is that the sites that allow you to link out are also linking out to anyone and everyone. You'd be much better off building some handmade links on article directors, related blog posts, web 2.0s, and related forums.

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Art Turner

13 years ago

Matt,

Have you searched for a unique phrase from one of your articles "within quotes?"

How many different articles have you submitted to the network?

Have you contacted My Article Network support with your questions regarding where your articles are published?

Art

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