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Noob looking for some advice

by bearcattom
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I built a website over a year ago with a buddy of mine, and neither of us had any idea of what SEO was at that time. We didn't even know we needed it. After months of reading forums, blogs, etc, I started trying it out because PPC was not cost effective and I'm not in a good financial condition to put it lightly. So September of last year I started working on SEO for my site concentrating on back links.

I have been working on very diligently on article marketing, blog comments, web 2.0, link exchanges, profiles, forums, etc. and seemed to have hit a wall with my keywords. I am in a very highly competitive market where competitors have links above 50,000. I didnt realize how competitive the market really was or I probably would have gone with something else. I also have been trying to SEO 50 KW phrases(which I guess was a big mistake?) I am not using any software at all and have spent days and nights to get about 1/3 of the keywords into pages 2-4 of google and my total links are somewhere around 3,000. We are just starting to generate traffic and ad revenue. Not bad for a noob, but I had a question for you veterans and appreciate any advice:

1. Do I just continue what I am doing to see if I can leapfrog the competition eventually in a year or so? Or will I stay where I am at until I can get some direct high PR links. I am finding it extremely difficult to get direct high PR page links. I have a few high domain PR, but the pages that I link on are PR0.

2. Is there software that anyone recommends highly that can help me be more efficient with my time with article marketing, profiles,etc..? (right now I just have a spinner and my content is original around 6-700 words)


I know it's a lot to ask, but any advice I would be very grateful.
#advice #noob
  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    seNuke is one tool that accelerates the things you have been doing, it's not the blackest tool out there nor is it the newest, but it does both articles and comments, last I hears there was a 7 day free trial available for the $149/mo tool. That's the sort of cost a multi site owner can justify best.
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  • Profile picture of the author InternetMarketingIQ
    Keep doing the same thing?

    You have to figure out if your offer is really any good. If you fail at PPC with your offer then SEO isn't going to make much difference.

    Most professionals use PPC to test to see if their content is working and if the offer is profitable. Then if so they continue. If not they adjust.

    If you really want to make money you figure out where your target audience gets their information and you put yourself there. Organic Search is just part of that. Most truly successful Online marketers are outsourcing grunt work and focusing on their core competencies.
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  • Profile picture of the author BeachDude
    Don't take offense to this, but I think it might be time to look at other business models. Spending a year trying to play SEO Roulette is not a good bet to make. If you want to make money, put your pride in your back pocket and shut that project down. My guess is that like every other Warrior, your cheif aim is to make as much money possible in the shortest amount of time possible. Why spend 1 year trying to rank for a keyword when you can buy yourself to the top and test it out.

    When it comes down to brass tax there are really only 3 ways to make money online:

    1. Get people to buy stuff through your URL
    2. Get people to click on your ads
    3. Get people to do other stuff through your URL (download games, ringtones, fill out forms, etc)

    Why waste precious time doing inefficient things? Go get a night job at Mcdonalds, spend your earnings learning CPV advertising, Facebook ads, and PPC. Join some CPA networks (Max bounty, Copeac, Clockbooth), and ask your AM about the good offers.

    The more people that flow through your sites, the more money you make, regardless if you pay for the traffic or not.

    Would you rather make $13 per day without spending a dime or make $1,500/day spending $900?
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    • Profile picture of the author bearcattom
      Thanks for the replies. At this point I feel maybe we have invested too much into to change business models. But I will have to look into PPC closer because maybe I wasn't using it effectively. I just figured organic search was the way to go and down the road to supplement PPC for words that I wanted but could not get.

      If I wanted to outsource the grunt work like article marketing, blog commenting etc...does anyone recommend any software / person /group besides seNuke? though I will look at it. i think Xrumer, Scrapebox come to mind in my research as tools that could help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barb Thornback
    I use Magic Submitter. Look it up and take a look.

    One of my websites is in a very competitive niche but combining article marketing and SEO I get over 2000 page views a day (after a year) and aim to get a lot more.
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    • Profile picture of the author bearcattom
      Thank you barb. Will look into it.
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