Are people being told to act like idiots, or do they do it on their own?

Ken Leatherman

13 years ago

Natural Idiots and Being Told To Act Like An Idiot By Another Idiot. (1 Liner Intended)

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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Michael,

Once they get enough posts to have a sig (is that how it works?) those junk posts get populated with their sig.

I say we nuke those posts...

~Bill

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Michael,

Once they get enough posts to have a sig (is that how it works?) those junk posts get populated with their sig.

I say we nuke those posts...

~Bill

Hi Bill,

That's part of my confusion, I guess. I'm not sure what the post counts are for unlocking various things (sigs, links, etc.)

I agree whole heartedly that they should be nuked, but part of the problem is that various people will report a different post. That being said, I'm sure the Super Mods will get it straightened out soon enough.

(But if they could just give a few of us access to a "Nuke-A-Spammer" button, I'd be happy to take care of it.)

All the best,
Michael

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Michael Oksa 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman

Natural Idiots and Being Told To Act Like An Idiot By Another Idiot. (1 Liner Intended)

Originally Posted by Rod Cortez

I would say "both" Michael. (That's my one liner for today......maybe).

RoD

You know, now that I think about it, the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

(But if they could just give a few of us access to a "Nuke-A-Spammer" button, I'd be happy to take care of it.)

I'd raise my hand for one of those.

They can take it away from me if I ever blow a call and that would be cool, as well.

Just let me have an 'easy' button for a while to nuke those bozos. After a while repeated reporting of spam posts becomes a pain in the butt when you're trying to get other work done...

~Bill

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

I'd raise my hand for one of those.

They can take it away from me if I ever blow a call and that would be cool, as well.

Just let me have an 'easy' button for a while to nuke those bozos. After a while repeated reporting of spam posts becomes a pain in the butt when you're trying to get other work done...

~Bill

Actually Bill, I'd happily pay for one of them.

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Jeremy Kelsall

13 years ago

Michael - they only post without the sig temporarily...the posts "many" times are created by a bot which at a later date usually 7 to 10 days will alter their profile to include a signature if their posts are left in place

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Michael - they only post without the sig temporarily...the posts "many" times are created by a bot which at a later date usually 7 to 10 days will alter their profile to include a signature if their posts are left in place

Now that's clever! Not good or bad, but clever.

The particular person that prompted this post seemed to have been done by a human. For example, in a post asking about music, the said the name of their favorite band. Unless, of course, the bot is smart enough to do this, too.

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Michael

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

Now that's clever! Not good or bad, but clever.

The particular person that prompted this post seemed to have been done by a human. For example, in a post asking about music, the said the name of their favorite band. Unless, of course, the bot is smart enough to do this, too.

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Michael

One of those bots got on Skype and spoke to me. With a human voice.

Clever or what?

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Chris Dolan

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

Now that's clever! Not good or bad, but clever.

The particular person that prompted this post seemed to have been done by a human. For example, in a post asking about music, the said the name of their favorite band. Unless, of course, the bot is smart enough to do this, too.

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Michael

It maybe human, but its the worst in humans that piggy backs, add's 0 value, and then starts using their forum profile and posts solely for backlinking purposes.

Instead of writing their posts in 1 minute or less it would be better to invest a little. Warrior Forum is a bit like a bank, invest in it and in the long term you will be fine.

I don't know if its a bot, but hope not, cause its just going to devalue the threads and lead to extra work for the mods.

Chris

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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Egan

Instead of writing their posts in 1 minute or less it would be better to invest a little. Warrior Forum is a bit like a bank, invest in it and in the long term you will be fine.

There is also the possibility of creating an account for the purpose of selling it later once it has "matured".

In that case your 'bank' remark comes into play albeit in a different light.

~Bill

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Egan

It maybe human, but its the worst in humans that piggy backs, add's 0 value, and then starts using their forum profile and posts solely for backlinking purposes.

Instead of writing their posts in 1 minute or less it would be better to invest a little. Warrior Forum is a bit like a bank, invest in it and in the long term you will be fine.

I don't know if its a bot, but hope not, cause its just going to devalue the threads and lead to extra work for the mods.

Chris

Spot on, Chirs.

I often tell people to contribute the Warrior Forum. I then go on to expalin what that does and doesn't mean.

Note: The word is contribute, not post; there's a big difference, and it seems like you get it.

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Michael

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ForeignProfessor

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

The particular person that prompted this post seemed to have been done by a human. For example, in a post asking about music, the said the name of their favorite band. Unless, of course, the bot is smart enough to do this, too.

Once he starts making $100BAZILLIONDOLLARSGUARANTEED$$FROM$FORUM$$ he'll be outsourcing it for $130 a month. (Not $180, or $250, because those are the expensive outsourcers.) Then we'll get the real outsourced spam and not pesky honest-to-goodness real human interaction with the perpetrator.

He probably won't get that far though

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mikemcmillan

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

Hi Bill,

(But if they could just give a few of us access to a "Nuke-A-Spammer" button, I'd be happy to take care of it.)

Michael, I'm going to talk to the mods about giving you exactly the power you want/deserve

. Sort of a cross between Dirty Harry and The Day The Earth Stood Still.

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mikemcmillan

Michael, I'm going to talk to the mods about giving you exactly the power you want/deserve

. Sort of a cross between Dirty Harry and The Day The Earth Stood Still.

Thanks Mike, but I had to fix it a bit....

Other than that, I really dig the pic and just may have to use it.

~M~

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Diane S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Michael,

Once they get enough posts to have a sig (is that how it works?) those junk posts get populated with their sig.

I say we nuke those posts...

~Bill

Signature link requirements have changed since I became a member. I assume it is the ability to PM that is driving them to their initial posting frenzy.

Originally Posted by Chris Egan

I don't know if its a bot, but hope not

Oh there are bots for forum posting and signature links, for sure. You can buy one or build one yourself. I just googled it and it was all there.

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Richard Van 13 years ago

I was actually on the lists of a few respected people that will remain nameless, before I arrived here.

I was told on a few occasions to come here and post "quick responses" so I could PM others and once my post count was 40 or above, I'd have a reputation and people will then buy off of my signature. When I read this I naturally assumed everyone here must be a mug.

I then came here and realised, there were not only a lot of very successful people here but people that were much more intelligent than me too.

In fact after an hour here, reading the posts, I realised what a goldmine I'd found. I'm still here with no signature and nothing to sell, well, in the MMO niche anyway. It's sad to see so many others coming here with absolutely no idea what they're missing out on by posting absolute turd for what is quite frankly a fantasy.

I wish people would realise reputation has nothing to do with post count and all to do with how you conduct yourself when here. :p
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vickybabe

13 years ago

Ha ha yeah i fully agree with your post, i think when some new people join they have the smart idea that they are the only person to have the brilliant idea to break the rules and potentially make millions of dollars by doing things the wrong way. Little do they know that here on the WF is strictly one place where nobody will pay attention to dumb a*** that do it. Anyhow i say let them go and see how much of their valuable time they can waste doing it.

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James Clark

13 years ago

Michael,

I don't know about people's background but I spent all my working career in face to face selling. I'm not talking about pots and pans (no disrespect Zig Zaglar).

It has been my experience that people are trained to try and learn something for FREE. Well, I'm not interested in becoming an unpaid consultant.(LOL)

Most of the questions I see being asked are simple. On the internet there is plenty of information about these subjects.

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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by James Clark

Michael,

I don't know about people's background but I spent all my working career in face to face selling. I'm not talking about pots and pans( no disrespect Zig Zaglar).

It has been my experience that people are trained to try and learn something for FREE. Well, I'm not interested in becoming an unpaid consultant.(LOL)

Most of the questions I see being asked are simple. On the internet there is plenty of information about these subjects.

What thread are we in :confused:

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James Clark 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

What thread are we in :confused:

What wrong with my post?
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- Kay King 13 years ago
  
  I watched the dude yesterday post total nonsense in quick posts - so he could reach the point to make a post and include his link in the post.
  
  At which time, he was banned.
  
  I think some people work very hard to look like idiots - and they do a great job of it.
  
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  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  I think some people work very hard to look like idiots - and they do a great job of it.
  
  I always say, if you're going to do something be the best at it that you can be.
  
  So all those idiot post are just all the idiots trying to out do the other so they can be the best idiot out there!
  
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Rod Cortez

13 years ago

I would say "both" Michael. (That's my one liner for today......maybe).

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rammonster

13 years ago

These posts are made by automated forum profile link building software's these are never done manually! i have xrumer....i know how these things work

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by rammonster

These posts are made by automated forum profile link building software's these are never done manually! i have xrumer....i know how these things work

Really, that's amazing because I've even had conversations with some of these programs, even on Skype as I've tried to tell them to wise up a bit. Dam clever software programs out there now to be able to jump on skype and mimic human speech - clearly you do know how thses things work. :rolleyes:

Good grief....

...Of course some of them are real people, there are stupid people out there you know. :rolleyes:

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rammonster

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Really, that's amazing because I've even had conversations with some of these programs, even on Skype as I've tried to tell them to wise up a bit. Dam clever software programs out there now to be able to jump on skype and mimic human speech - clearly you do know how thses things work. :rolleyes:

Good grief....

...Of course some of them are real people, there are stupid people out there you know. :rolleyes:

ok maybe some one is stupid enough to hire people :rolleyes: ...to do this job... But most of the time it's software's like xrumer, sick submitter ...etc... :p.. As for word press spam ..there's scrapebox..!!

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by rammonster

As for word press spam ..there's scrapebox..!!

Now that I agree with completely!

I'm not saying there are no bots, just as I said in my post earlier, people do actually tell people to just come here, make loads of posts and the cash rolls in.

I was even told, before I joined, that affiliate links in the signature were encouraged - That says a lot when you look at some of the numbskulls here.

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rammonster

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Now that I agree with completely!

I'm not saying there are no bots, just as I said in my post earlier, people do actually tell people to just come here, make loads of posts and the cash rolls in.

I was even told, before I joined, that affiliate links in the signature were encouraged - That says a lot when you look at some of the numbskulls here.

umm...i guess they give it a fancy name too "forum marketing" :p

i mean people still use forums to make big $$$ (WSO's ) but i guess there's a way you go about doing that...

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by rammonster

umm...i guess they give it a fancy name too "forum marketing" :p

i mean people still use forums to make big $$$ (WSO's ) but i guess there's a way you go about doing that...

That's exactly what they called it. "Hey, this is how you do forum marketing, post lot's of s***, get lots of posts, then sell lot's of s***)

...and then some people believe it's that easy. :rolleyes:

I've nothing against people selling WSO's or having signatures at all. I'm just saying the people we're talking about in this post, that Michael has highlighted are doing it wrong. Very wrong.

That's straightforward though, as Kay just confirmed he/she/robot got banned.

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Benjamin Ehinger

13 years ago

Just to point out, from an ex restaurant servers experience, people are simply just idiots. These are probably the same people that used to come in to the mexican restaurant I worked at and order a cheese burger for $10. Seriously, that is what mcdonald's is for.

Anyway, back to the topic. If they are just trying to reach the 50 posts, then they could actually reply to questions in posts or add to questions to get there. It really is not that difficult and it is hilarious to me that they don't get it.

Benjamin Ehinger

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Sandra Martinez

13 years ago

hehe, one of those is probably my fault... sorry.

I sent a pm to a guy to follow a conversation we had in one thread, and he didn´t have enough posts... he said he did over 40 posts to be able to answer.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

Unless things have changed.... I believe that prior to you having a signature; those posts will not have your sig attached to them. At least thats the way I found vBulletin code to be.

For example, say I am SPAMMER X, and I need 50 posts to have a sig. I could make 50 dumb one liners, so I could have a sig file...

But when I post those one liners, because there is no sig set, it's doesn't {I think} call back to the signature = SPAMMER X sig... However, if I had a sig at that time it would do a callback to find my latest sig.

At least, that's how the code used to be... I don't know if there is a change.... What the spammers really want is the 50 posts to get a signature, so that they then have it on there profile.... Most of the time, though, it's automatedly set to make a sig, because the feature is disabled, the bot posts for no reason half the time

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But, no I don't believe it shows on there old posts.

Caleb

Since I'm talking about my sig... I'll just remove it for this post

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jasonmorgan

13 years ago

Michael - they only post without the sig temporarily...the posts "many" times are created by a bot which at a later date usually 7 to 10 days will alter their profile to include a signature if their posts are left in place

The only accurate response given so far.

The minimum number of posts needed on this forum to add a signature is one.