ArticlesBase Reveals Their $500k/month Profit - Thanks to us!

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In an techcrunch article posted today, here are some numbers on ArticlesBase

20M Unique hits/month
Only 11 Employees
$500,000/month revenue
80% Profit

I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free. And we only get a damn nofollow link!


More info here: ArticlesBase: The Profitable Content Farm With 20M Monthly Visitors You Don't Know


What do you think?
#$500k or month #articlesbase #profit #reveals
  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post



    What do you think?

    I'm very surprised at their figures to be honest. However what do I think?

    I don't care and I'm not mad that they don't share revenue with their contributors. They don't have to.

    Sure it would be nice of them, but in the end why would they give free money away when people are so willing to add articles to their site for free.

    I'm just focused on my own business and am not going to get mad about this.

    Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free.
    It depends what you mean by "give away".

    That's not how I look at it at all, to be honest.

    I allow them to publish it - that's all.

    "Give away" implies that you might have done something else with it instead, perhaps? The reality, of course, is that submitting to ArticlesBase is something you do in addition to everything else you do with the article.

    You're giving nothing away.

    You get a backlink out of it (a non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlink which is almost worthless, granted), and possibly some traffic from it (unlikely, though, if you're doing sensible "other things" with the article before submitting it there), and a possibility of syndication from ArticlesBase leading to better traffic and better backlinks. That possibility is worth something ... certainly worth the few seconds it takes to submit your article to ArticleBase after everything else you wanted to use it for?

    I have a few hundred articles there, and have had a little bit of syndication from there. Only a little: a small fraction of what I get from EZA.

    Still - it doesn't cost anything to submit there, and anything you get is "something for nothing", isn't it?

    But "give away"? No, not at all.

    My main reason for submitting my articles there is that I'd feel nervous of submitting them only to EZA, because I might be left looking a bit silly/unprepared if EZA happens to disappear tomorrow. Not the most compelling of reasons, I admit; but there it is.

    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    And we only get a damn nofollow link!
    To me (and to many marketers) they have exactly the same value as do-follow links. This depends on one's perspective and existing beliefs. I suspect, again, that yours are pretty different from mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Clark
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post



      To me (and to many marketers) they have exactly the same value as do-follow links. This depends on one's perspective and existing beliefs. I suspect, again, that yours are pretty different from mine.
      I agree with the no-follow vs do-follow. I think Google doesn't discriminate against them as much as we think, although I do think that some of the power is lost, but who really knows? I think that the value of no-follow links will greatly increase (or already has) because of the way Google want to increase the importance of social media and user interaction. I think that Google doesn't only look at the traditional features of a link, but looks at what kind of site the link is from (No I don't mean PR, but I think they know if that site is good for interaction), for example Youtube profile links, they looks great because they usually have a high PR, but I think that Google doesn't give mcuh credit to them because they are easy to get. Having said that, if there are lots of videos,comments,likes etc. Then it is clear to google that users are interacting with the content and like it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Well I say more power to them!

    When I submit articles to ArticlesBase (or any article dir or other website) I think of it as a way of expanding my reach - of syndicating my content to draw more people into my websites.

    I don't feel like I am just giving away my content and getting nothing out of the deal. What I get is my article on a highly ranked and highly trafficked site. Sure, I could keep all my articles on my site, but then if I never spread them around how would anyone find me?

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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      I think you need to be a bit more sceptical when you read these kind of articles.

      Why did ArticlesBase ask the guy "to have a look at their online article directory".

      The author admits these are "self-reportedly" generated figures. I actually earn $500,000 an hour - wannna buy my business for $25 million?

      Nice profit margins - they must pay very little tax.


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    • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      Well I say more power to them!

      When I submit articles to ArticlesBase (or any article dir or other website) I think of it as a way of expanding my reach - of syndicating my content to draw more people into my websites.

      I don't feel like I am just giving away my content and getting nothing out of the deal. What I get is my article on a highly ranked and highly trafficked site. Sure, I could keep all my articles on my site, but then if I never spread them around how would anyone find me?

      Lee
      My thoughts exactly!

      To be honest I wouldn't have said they would make that much but I think it's great!

      Makes you wonder how well EZA does? Things that make you go hmmmmm...
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    • Profile picture of the author la dominatrix
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      Well I say more power to them!

      When I submit articles to ArticlesBase (or any article dir or other website) I think of it as a way of expanding my reach - of syndicating my content to draw more people into my websites.

      I don't feel like I am just giving away my content and getting nothing out of the deal. What I get is my article on a highly ranked and highly trafficked site. Sure, I could keep all my articles on my site, but then if I never spread them around how would anyone find me?

      Lee
      That is the way to look at it, but just look at the amount of people that don't use their resource boxes correctly, in every niche including Internet marketing; so that others can syndicate their article without giving them the link, because they fail to add an http://www. etc etectera as well as the link, that does not work when the article is syndicated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barb Thornback
    I get more traffic from ArticleBase than any other article directory, so I'm quite happy for them to make pots of money!
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    In an techcrunch article posted today, here are some numbers on ArticlesBase

    20M Unique hits/month
    Only 11 Employees
    $500,000/month revenue
    80% Profit

    I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free. And we only get a damn nofollow link!


    More info here: ArticlesBase: The Profitable Content Farm With 20M Monthly Visitors You Don’t Know


    What do you think?
    It's great that they're prospering with this approach. Remember that this isn't a one-way street, as the marketers who post their articles there also benefit in terms of links and ultimately sales/revenue, in some form or another.

    They're nothing more than an aggregator of a massive amount of content, and they get compensated for the amount of value they provide to the marketplace. People tend to look down on aggregator websites, thinking that they don't provide any value at all and are just leeching content from others. Think of them as a one-stop shop for certain types of information on the net. If there is absolutely no value in that at all, why would advertisers be interested in advertising there?

    This is precisely why AOL was willing to pay $315 million for the Huffington Post, which when you analyze it is nothing more than a gigantic aggregator of news articles from many different sources.

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  • Profile picture of the author moneymakerz
    This was exactly the question that I had when I was reading this thread. How much Ezine articles make..i guess about 2 million per month
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    The nofollow thing is not a problem to me at all. Once I submitted an articles at articlesbase and someone syndicate it with my link inside the body, I got what I want...
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Yes these guys do make a lot of money each month. There is not nothing wrong with that. They are very high PR sites (EZA and ArticlesBase) because they did things right from the start. They kept writers in line with strict guidelines and discourage spam.

    So they don't pay you anything for your articles. Fine. If you have only a few articles on these sites, you probably won't see much traffic. However, if you have many articles, you will see a lot of traffic for a very long time.

    1- You give your article for free.

    2- Google gives your article love in traffic if you provide good content for them

    3- Article directory makes money on ad sense for letting you post

    4- You get internet real estate on their site for years to come.

    I know that article writing is not for everyone but for the people who post on a regular basis, the rewards in free traffic can be sweet.

    Nothing is free. Some marketers buy traffic for dollars and this type of traffic doesn't last but it can have a wide reach. Other marketers who are willing to put in the time and sweat will be rewarded for years to come.

    Everybody wins!
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    • Profile picture of the author skibbz
      Articlesbase is King!! I want to be just like them when i grow up .

      I think they could earn a bit more than $500K p/m, if they seek other revenue streams outside of adsense. I've been hearing about new ppc programs who are paying much higher than google as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warren.Richards
    It is totally your choice to allow them publish your article or not. No Article-Base employee has forced anyone to do so.
    Marketers publish their articles to gain traffic and exposure in the search engine. As long as we get it, we should not have any problem. And if we are unable to get what we want from our articles, we should change our strategy.

    Whining on their income is not what we should do, but take maximum advantage of what it is offering.

    As a last option stop publishing articles with Article-Base is always available to everyone and anyone.

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  • Profile picture of the author schttrj
    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    In an techcrunch article posted today, here are some numbers on ArticlesBase

    20M Unique hits/month
    Only 11 Employees
    $500,000/month revenue
    80% Profit

    I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free. And we only get a damn nofollow link!

    More info here: ArticlesBase: The Profitable Content Farm With 20M Monthly Visitors You Don't Know

    What do you think?
    Well then, that is called BUSINESS!

    You are not giving it away for free...you are getting traffic in return. And if you really don't want to submit at ArticlesBase, don't submit there.

    It will slowly crumble down. But you won't do that obviously. Ha ha!

    It's a vicious cycle, my friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    How much of that revenue do they share with users?

    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    In an techcrunch article posted today, here are some numbers on ArticlesBase

    20M Unique hits/month
    Only 11 Employees
    $500,000/month revenue
    80% Profit

    I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free. And we only get a damn nofollow link!


    More info here: ArticlesBase: The Profitable Content Farm With 20M Monthly Visitors You Don't Know


    What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    That is awesome! Just a proof that Articlesbase will be up and running for us in the next years to come. Now I will be waiting for Ezine's figures to be posted soon. Im getting curious than before. Really nice figures for a directory, and not all are capable of reaching that.

    Andrea
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    In an techcrunch article posted today, here are some numbers on ArticlesBase

    20M Unique hits/month
    Only 11 Employees
    $500,000/month revenue
    80% Profit

    I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free. And we only get a damn nofollow link!


    More info here: ArticlesBase: The Profitable Content Farm With 20M Monthly Visitors You Don't Know


    What do you think?
    Look at it this way......you get the same exact thing from EZA and they make much more than this each month. Plus they also charge you for a membership if you want to schedule your submissions.

    They provide a service for you by hosting your article and allowing others to use it for themselves. This service is something you have chosen to use and it is no different than if you have an autoblog that makes you money from some other internet marketers content.

    Also, how do you know they are making tons of cash from your specific articles? Take that $500K and divide it by the total views. You will find that you only get 2.5 cents per view. That is not that much.

    Now take that 2.5 cents and multiply is by how many view you have created per articles. If you have created 1,000 views, then you are really allowing them to make $25 for your backlink.

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  • Profile picture of the author yoyo
    hmm what kind of figures does ezine do then
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      If they can make so much money online by aggregating articles. There is no reason why someone else can't do that. It is great to see someone being successful. That is more proof that the internet can work and work really well for making a great income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    What do I think?

    I think I'm in the wrong damn business, that's what I think!
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      I think they deserve it. Great example of how to make money from 100% user generated content.

      What´s the Flippa value on a site that grosses 6 million with a 80% profit? :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Leslie B
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      What do I think?

      I think I'm in the wrong damn business, that's what I think!
      Let's start one of our own

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      • Profile picture of the author Jenny Willapana
        Originally Posted by Leslie B View Post

        Let's start one of our own

        Leslie
        With WP and it's plugins...that can easily be arranged.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrekkieGrrrl
    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    In an techcrunch article posted today, here are some numbers on ArticlesBase

    20M Unique hits/month
    Only 11 Employees
    $500,000/month revenue
    80% Profit

    I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free. And we only get a damn nofollow link!


    More info here: ArticlesBase: The Profitable Content Farm With 20M Monthly Visitors You Don't Know


    What do you think?
    Two things:

    1. If it's so unfair, stop submitting your articles to them.

    2. If it's so unfair, invest your own time, money and resources into building your own article directory that's as successful as ArticlesBase and then tell me how you feel you should share your profits with all of the article submitters.

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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      It would require a huge injection of capital that most here don't have/couldn't secure.

      I think the capitalistic spirit is great, but I'm also making a general observations that, with the right competition and business model, there is huge opportunity here for a new site to emerge that allows syndication and shares revenue. It would certainly be tricky to pull off...and it would take alot of time...being that those sites are so established. They'd have to gain the authority to make it "worth it" for individual users to invest a significant amount of time on...that authority would only be gained by a huge collective effort.

      A daunting task...but, it's always possible.

      Originally Posted by TrekkieGrrrl View Post

      Two things:

      1. If it's so unfair, stop submitting your articles to them.

      2. If it's so unfair, invest your own time, money and resources into building your own article directory that's as successful as ArticlesBase and then tell me how you feel you should share your profits with all of the article submitters.

      JMHO, YMMV, and LLAP
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      • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
        I think that they deserve every penny. I make money through my articles being on their site and being syndicated from their site so they should make money from them too for letting me publish them there.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    The people at the top make the most money.

    Let that be a lesson to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author skibbz
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      The people at the top make the most money.

      Let that be a lesson to you.
      eza and articlesbase are at top of the food chain
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    • Profile picture of the author jgant
      I hope article directories such as ArticleBase and EZA continue making boatloads of money off the free content they get.

      The more money they make is a result of more visitors to their site which is more eyeballs on the articles, including mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
    First, a lot of people are confusing revenue and profit. $.025 profit per view is excellent. Second, I do not believe those figures. I'm no conspiracy theorist or 'the gurus steal my money and my land' type of person, but if they were making 500k monthly profit with 11 employees there would be much fewer article directories dying. Any of you have experience reviewing that many articles? Think 11 people could do it a day?

    Maybe there will be an 'ArticleBase business blueprint' launch soon... (but it would bomb) Ha :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    I have no doubt that these figures are truthful. Article marketing has been a pet peeve of mine for a long time and I often express my discontent of the practice in my webinars.

    The amount of value that you get and the owners of the directories get is significantly disproportionate.
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    you can tell by that techcrunch article that they have absolutely no respect for that directory.

    and with just cause.

    they are pedalling largely rubbish content, giving nothing back and raking the money in. you can't help but feel a little bit annoyed by that.

    imagine if they vetted their authors, rooted out all the crap (so about 80%) and then offered to PAY the good ones for their writing (only a small amount) AND turned it into a dofollow directory. their revenues would undoubtedly suffer but they would sleep knowing they're helping out authors and helping to publicise good content.

    one can but dream...
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  • Profile picture of the author smwordsmith
    Dang! Now why didn't I think of that?

    Like skibbz said, "I want to be just like them when I grow up."
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  • Profile picture of the author Karan Goel
    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    ... And we only get a damn nofollow link!
    It's more than a link, if you know what you're doing!

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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Some warriors here thinks that Articlsbase owe something from them.. LOL...

    Articlesbase does not owe anything from us.. we benefited by promoting articles and they benefited through ads. It's a give and take process..
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    • Profile picture of the author skibbz
      This thing is a two way street, your articles are an asset to an article directory (like eza or articlesbase). if properly optimized it will bring traffic to your article page/ backlinks but also in the process traffic is coming to the article directories itself as well where they benefit through google adsense income, it is a win win for both parties. I dont think anyone should complain.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jack Clark
        Originally Posted by skibbz View Post

        This thing is a two way street, your articles are an asset to an article directory (like eza or articlesbase). if properly optimized it will bring traffic to your article page/ backlinks but also in the process traffic is coming to the article directories itself as well where they benefit through google adsense income, it is a win win for both parties. I dont think anyone should complain.
        I agree, it is a fair trade off. Article directories want your articles hence the big "submit an article" buttons on their sites and we all want traffic and links right? Hence the resource boxes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    And we only get a damn nofollow link!

    After a certain number of articles, I think 10, the links become do follow. However, I don't see the difference between no follow and do follow, an nobody should get mad at it
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  • Profile picture of the author darkwizgemz
    That would depend on how much work and effort you put in your work. Better be worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author robvegas626
    Where is their revenue coming from, besides Adsense? Very hard to believe they're making that much $$$ just from Adsense, even if they're getting massive traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by robvegas626 View Post

      Where is their revenue coming from, besides Adsense? Very hard to believe they're making that much $$$ just from Adsense, even if they're getting massive traffic.
      Rob,

      It 'appears' that ArticlesBase has obtained a Google Adsense Premium account, as one would expect for a website that large and frequented. I say 'appears' because they do host, from what I can see, 5 adsense for content blocks, as compared to a regular publishers 3 adsense for content blocks. Having a Google Adsense Premium account comes with alot of benefits and priviledges that could make it entirely possible for them to earn that much from adsense.

      Regular adsense publishers earn 68% revenue share for Adsense on content, and 51% on Adsense for search. For a premium publisher, they are afforded the opportunity to negotiate this revenue share. It's entirely possible, although I have yet to negotiate this on my own behalf, I'm sure it was possible that Articles Base could have negotiated for upwards of 75-80% revenue share on the hosted adverts.
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  • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
    Think about this:

    If they're making 500K/mo in adsense revenue, er profit, er whatever.... That's a lot of people that could have been clicking on your links but are clicking on the ADS instead....
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  • Profile picture of the author shuvo
    I am just amazed by seeing all statistics and just thinking if articlebase is making 500k per month then how much money ezine or hubpages is making every month?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    I hope article directories such as ArticleBase and EZA continue making boatloads of money off the free content they get.

    The more money they make is a result of more visitors to their site which is more eyeballs on the articles, including mine.
    Not picking on the quoted individual but I think the quote brings up a problem that many marketers have.

    Why are you relying on other sites for scraps?

    With the amount of effort marketers put into article marketing they could own their own articlebase or EZA. Grab 20 buddies and keep your article directory private and you could reach very financially yummy results in two years.

    The guy at the bottom never wins.

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  • Profile picture of the author johnyeo90
    How do they earned money?
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
      Originally Posted by johnyeo90 View Post

      How do they earned money?
      Go to their site and find out!

      Adsense + well yeah, just Adsense it looks like. Who knows they could be doing their own internal testing/marketing of different affiliate offers (or their own products, etc.) but for the most part it looks like run of the mill advertising.

      Cool thing about AB is it's such a basic and easily duplicated business model... Outsource a custom made directory script, load it with content and invest money in SEO to make it worth while for people to submit to it--then it becomes self sustained since so many people will be building links back to the site to rank their own articles.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jenny Willapana
        I personally love ArticleBase. It has less Adsense and ads than EZA and it's just as easy to rank which means more traffic to my sites for the same effort!

        Smart marketers are ditching EZA, and honestly I think more people should do the same...until they take down a lot of that Adsense, of course.

        If we all stopped providing them with content, you can bet your ass they would change gears.

        Revolt!

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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    I love Articles base and I'm glad they are successful, because it means the articles I post there will continue to get good rankings.

    It's common for article directories to make passive monthly income from the ads posted on their article pages. Hey, we are free to post articles there or someplace else. Nobody forcing anyone.

    I freely give them content in exchange for exposure and links - that's the way it works.

    If you want to make money from posting articles then go to revenue sharing sites like Infobarrel and Hub pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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    Originally Posted by WealthWithin View Post

    In an techcrunch article posted today, here are some numbers on ArticlesBase

    20M Unique hits/month
    Only 11 Employees
    $500,000/month revenue
    80% Profit

    I'd say about 95% of their profit is because of internet marketers who giveaway their content for free. And we only get a damn nofollow link!

    What do you think?
    Smart guys, I think. Also, this article will increase their popularity and the traffic and of course the profit ... for sure
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  • Profile picture of the author DR's Fynest
    Daaaang. I'm thinking like John! (Zeus66)

    I'm in the wrong darn business!!! lol

    I don't want to beat a dead horse... Others have said it. It doesn't affect ME in the least because they allow me to publish my content, therefore, allowing me to have a larger reach than simply posting the articles solely on my sites.

    It really does make me wonder though, how can I start my own successful article directory? Where's the WSO for THAT!? lol
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      Originally Posted by DR's Fynest View Post

      Daaaang. I'm thinking like John! (Zeus66)

      I'm in the wrong darn business!!! lol

      I don't want to beat a dead horse... Others have said it. It doesn't affect ME in the least because they allow me to publish my content, therefore, allowing me to have a larger reach than simply posting the articles solely on my sites.

      It really does make me wonder though, how can I start my own successful article directory? Where's the WSO for THAT!? lol
      The optimum word is 'successful' There are thousands out there but very few attain much success. It's hard work and mind numbing checking articles for hours on end. Then you find that 80% and more aren't acceptable. Most directory owners get disheartened and give up. I find that it's easier to make money from Amazon and Clickbank than it is from directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    damn this is insane. I know it is hard to get lots of traffic even if you are leveraging, but these guys are raking it in.

    I am guessing that income is from things other than adsense.
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    Damn nice figures, I never thought they were making so much :O
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    No one is forcing you to submit your content there.
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