Can you outsource Your Whole Business??

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if you have a good structure for your business, can you outsource all of it??
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
    It will decrease your burden but you will still have to work to check the quality of work being delivered to you. If you are able to find good people then obviously outsourcing is perfect.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMIN
    Of course you can.

    You just need incredibly detailed and well thought out systems.

    Read 'Work the system' by Sam Carpenter.

    I've just recently saved a load of hours every week thanks to outsourcing with oDesk - I receive progress reports and screenprints showing me them working.. it's brilliant!
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    • Profile picture of the author GoldenEye
      Originally Posted by JMIN View Post


      I've just recently saved a load of hours every week thanks to outsourcing with oDesk - I receive progress reports and screenprints showing me them working.. it's brilliant!
      I was using onlinejobs.ph for a while then switched over to Odesk, when I brought my onlinejobs.ph employees over to register with Odesk, they were very uncomfortable with the idea of screenshots, anyone have this issue of "privacy concerns" ?
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      • Profile picture of the author GoldenEye
        Im sure that 100% is not really meant to imply that you have absolutely NO place in your own business strategy...right?
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      • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
        Originally Posted by GoldenEye View Post

        I was using onlinejobs.ph for a while then switched over to Odesk, when I brought my onlinejobs.ph employees over to register with Odesk, they were very uncomfortable with the idea of screenshots, anyone have this issue of "privacy concerns" ?
        A screenshot of what they are doing is not a privacy concern. Workers who aren't willing to provide proof or updates of their work likely take on many projects at once and will keep you out on the line until they finish a previous project, or they plan on outsourcing it to other people.
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      • Profile picture of the author candem
        Originally Posted by GoldenEye View Post

        I was using onlinejobs.ph for a while then switched over to Odesk, when I brought my onlinejobs.ph employees over to register with Odesk, they were very uncomfortable with the idea of screenshots, anyone have this issue of "privacy concerns" ?
        I recently found a program called Time Doctor (yes that is a (dot) com with no spaces, sorry don't have enough posts to link it ). Currently free but they are in beta and upfront about the fact that they will start charging. It is brilliant!!!

        You can choose if you want to get screen shots or not and every day it emails you a summary of what your workers have been doing.

        To my mind this beats oDesk. I tell my full time workers that they can add tasks and time for when they are not online. As they are full time they still get vacation time and sick days.

        My hourly workers. I can track exactly what they have been doing.

        I positioned it as a tool to help us all be more effective. If I know how long a task takes I can be proactive about allocating them work or getting them training in areas they might need it.

        I had no push back what so ever ... the BONUS was I upped my own productivity by putting myself on the system! Nothing like getting those reports of how long you have spent on what to get you focused!
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  • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
    Originally Posted by louise0evans View Post

    if you have a good structure for your business, can you outsource all of it??
    it's possible just make sure you decentralize the whole system by having different workers doing different things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Converting Copy
    I'm too much of a control freak myself but yeah you can outsource EVERYTHING. Wasn't the 4HWW about that? You'd probably still want to check in on the work from time to time but I can imagine if you got people whom you trusted doing everything for you, over time you'd need to check in less and less.
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    Thank you for posting this message/question. Yes, you may outsource the various aspects of your business. Please make sure you have a specific game plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author louise0evans
    thanks for all of your advice
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  • Profile picture of the author tobyR
    all things are possible but surely its about control, my aim is to get to a stage where I can employ someone to do much of the work I dont want to do, but still retain overall control. Also use more outsourcing but thats a way off yet for me
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    • Profile picture of the author elisaP
      what i like about outsourcing everything is that you can outsource to specialist in each field, then one can take more of a project manager approach as well as more time to focus on growth
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  • Profile picture of the author Kecia
    I'm not sure about 100% outsourcing. You'd still want to check the quality of the work being done for you, so you'd still have a few tasks to complete.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Outsourcing is not a magic pill that runs a company for you. By outsourcing, you are trading one job for another. You may not be handling customer support or article writing anymore, but you are now managing your outsource team. There is no such thing as hands off business. Somebody has to be in charge.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidjames42973
      A business partner and I are coming up with an extremely detailed SEO strategy that we're hoping we can outsource about 95% of it. The only thing that we may not be able to outsource is meeting with clients.

      Our system is still in testing though...
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      • Profile picture of the author jpeguero
        Originally Posted by davidjames42973 View Post

        A business partner and I are coming up with an extremely detailed SEO strategy that we're hoping we can outsource about 95% of it. The only thing that we may not be able to outsource is meeting with clients.

        Our system is still in testing though...

        I bet it is.

        Juan
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    • Profile picture of the author BruceWood
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      Outsourcing is not a magic pill that runs a company for you. By outsourcing, you are trading one job for another. You may not be handling customer support or article writing anymore, but you are now managing your outsource team. There is no such thing as hands off business. Somebody has to be in charge.
      Amen to that!
      Full 100% outsourcing makes you an investor, not a business owner. There's no organization that survives without someone at the helm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane N
    If you owned a restaurant, would you hire staff and then NEVER show up to your business? I doubt it.

    You can outsource the majority of your business, but you should always want to be the "face" of your business and make sure that your reputation stays strong. If you can trust your workers with your business and your livelihood, then by all means do it but it would be stressful to say the least!

    Best,
    Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author jtgjustin
    Originally Posted by louise0evans View Post

    if you have a good structure for your business, can you outsource all of it??
    Some things you're still going to have to do yourself
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    You can outsource the work, but you can never outsource leadership.

    Employees tend to do a good job, when there is someone available to tell them how to do their job.

    In the absence of leadership, a business will certainly fail.
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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    Originally Posted by louise0evans View Post

    if you have a good structure for your business, can you outsource all of it??
    I wouldn't want to outsource all of my business lol.

    I focus on what I'm good at, creating products, doing deals, list management etc

    Web design, copywriting, technical stuff ... I don't do myself.

    I know a fair bit about SEO, but I still outsource this too as much as possible.

    My biggest expense is my copywriter, she takes 20% of all sales but I've worked with her since my direct mail days and her copy delivers the numbers I want, online and offline.

    When you've got good people you've got to treat them like gold, then they'll go out of their way for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    Yes you offcourse you can outsource the business plan and the system but make sure that the main control should be in your hand so nothing will happen to your business system.

    Don't disclose the key when you outsource it..

    Thanks
    Alam
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  • Profile picture of the author ethernity
    I've always thought that if you want something done right you have to do it yourself. I would only outsource easy tasks that come with step by step directions.
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  • Profile picture of the author candem
    Originally Posted by louise0evans View Post

    if you have a good structure for your business, can you outsource all of it??
    Don't believe this would be a wise thing to do as even if you do achieve it, you probably have a 99.9% chance it will go down hill from there.

    As a Offline small business coach for seven years I studied and dealt with this issue on an on-going basis. What I saw was that most people are focused on putting systems in place and forget or don't realize that you need a way to verify the systems are being effective and are being adhered to.

    Systems also need to change over time - especially if you are scaling up or down and as we all know, things on constantly changing on the Internet.

    My recommendation would be to plan on having a 'General Manager' who would check on these issues. You will have to do the initial work and then when everything is running smoothly you can try find someone that you really trust with the right skills to do the 'General Managers' job.

    Still believe you would have to check up on your General Manager so 100% - no .. but you can get close.
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  • Profile picture of the author articlescatter
    I think it's definitely possible. I've always wondered about outsourcing all of my work. Simple concept really. Let's say you make on average $20/hour, you pay virtual assistants working for you at $4-10/hour. It's a labor arbitrage!
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreTinker
    It is possible to hire a manager to manage your business. You'd probably still want to put in some kind of input and get progress reports on a regular basis.

    Honestly, you can't start thinking about doing something like this until your business is making enough profit. Otherwise you'd be taking a heck of a chance with it and putting the future of business in jeopardy.
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    You can do that as long as you have the resources and money to finance. For me outsourcing is the best solution in order for you have more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author fixxidotnet
    Sure You Can Outsource It. That is what many bizes of all sizes are already doing !
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    • Profile picture of the author Oggyoi
      Originally Posted by 3ukman View Post

      Sure You Can Outsource It. That is what many bizes of all sizes are already doing !
      Internet services are not much different to say an engineering business that outsources / sub contracts component manufacturing. It all depends on the quality of the work the person does for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author aidanjb1
    I'm able to outsource about 99% of it...the other 1% is involves private or sensitive information - thats the part I always do myself...

    To start with I recommend you outsource the jobs you don't like, then increase what you outsource from there...
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    • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
      Hi Louise,

      It depends on the type of business but from my experience, if you do not know the intricate details of your business, you may be out of business when you outsource.

      So try to master all the minute details of the business before you outsource and still keep one eye on it from a little distance.

      All the best!
      Devid
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    You potentially can outsource a niche marketing business, but there are certain aspects that I want for quality control. I am also uncomfortable sharing my passwords with some of my subcontractors.

    I think the top level work should be done by you, but using other people to execute your strategy is important.
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    • Profile picture of the author jgant
      I like the saying "delegate, don't abdicate" (I heard this from Dan Thies - I'm not sure if he's the original source).

      I outsource the writing of select articles (not many) to one writer with whom I've worked a great deal and knows exactly what I need. I also outsouce some linkbuilding.

      I've learned I don't care to manage people or teams. I tend to do most of the work myself.

      I like planning and building my business. I'm working on building my sites more into community-oriented sites which definitely requires my voice and involvement.
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