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MyCashCreator,

Here's what i would do. Forget about MLM, it's a waste unless you get in early with a great opportunity. The little work three times as hard to just make their sponsors richer. I'm sure they are rich MLM people on here but it can be difficult.

Second, forget pushbutton or autotraffic types of systems. Most of all forget the shiny product syndrome. It could be that you are suffering from info. overload. i had been one time as well, so its not from your lack of knowledge but maybe more action needed.

Third, learn the one thing that will make you money and compound on it like you found gold with complete focus. Too many marketers try to be a jack of all trades and end up failing at most.

Fourth, consider coming up with your own products and driving traffic to a site of yours promoting them. Find quality jv partners and use their leverage to gain insight and their traffic as well.

Fifth, if you can afford it, get a little coaching to see where you're at. Look at it as an investment. Sometimes you need a second pair of eyes to put things into perspective for you.

Sixth, just pull out that desire from within and get in front of people with your newfound skillset. You just need to know more than your target market to be considered somewhat of an expert. So, start implementing.

This is the road i would take if in your shoes. In 16 years, i'm sure you know something of worth and value that you can be paid for. It made be as simple as walking away from IM for a while and come back with fresh eyes.

Hope that helps.

It is strange that you specifically say that you don't want MLM but then so much of the terminology of what you say you do want is taken from the MLM model.

Forget about downlines, uplines, sponsors, advertising systems and all the other stuff you seem to associate with a home business. That is NOT Internet marketing and probably explains why you haven't succeeded at it.

Success in Internet marketing is about you, personally, taking action according to a proven business model. Which model?

There are dozens that can work, but forget about all that automated guff that you read about. To be a succeess you have to learn how it all works - serve your apprenticeship - by rolling up your sleeves and putting in the effort and the long hours.

Eventually you may be able to automate some of the processes and outsource others, but unless you learn how things work for yourself how will you ever know which automation option, or which outsourcer are best for your personal business model?

From your original post I think you've spent far too long reading the business opportunities magazines (that are mostly written by hacks who are paid by the word) and far too little time reading about real Internet marketers and what we do.

Take time reading here on the Warrior Forum and if you have the cash to invest, join the War Room - your eyes will be opened.

Martin

Excuse me? I gave you an honest reply and you asked for help, you didn't ask for people to offer fluff and be nice. Maybe that is something you need to hear?

Obviously, 16 years and not making money you're doing something wrong. I don't know if you're lazy or not, but 16 years it seems like you have trouble committing or you just don't put enough effort it. On the other hand you may just be stuck doing the same things that you've been doing that has never worked for you.

If you want "nice" advice that will offer absolutely nothing to you and success, then it is this. You can accomplish anything you put your mind to. Is that better? Will that get you results now?

Okay, so what you have done the last 16 years has been pointless I assume. I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, but I don't have time to proofread everything and make sure I have a good level of niceness.

As for laziness, sorry, the flaw I see in your post is it looks like you're looking for a business that will do the work for you instead of you working it. You want an advertisement system that works for a product. You should be the one advertising.

A business idea, you can make money with whatever you want. Find something you're interested in, become an expert, and make some money. Yes, it is that simple. Get a website, get traffic, get ad revenue. Once that happens, repeat the process 100 times and you will be set.

There isn't a business that will work for you without you working it. That is the bottom line.

As for a slight word of encouragement, you have been doing this for 16 years without success, maybe made a few mistakes along the way. Start viewing that as a GOOD thing, just make sure you have learned from your mistakes, analyze the real reasons why certain things didn't work. Accept fault for certain efforts, and realize what you COULD have done to change the situation around.

Martin Avis is spot on! Re-read his post -- again.

Ok, some help for you:

1. Forget about anything and everything associated with MLM.

2. Aside from what Martin Avis said, there's one other MAJOR flaw I see in your original post:

You seem to want a business that comes with an "advertising system." Ummm... That's generally not how it works.

Generally, you first get the business (whether you're buying a franchise, an information product (i.e. "system") that tells you how to get into/build a certain kind of business, an existing business, etc.). That's one purchase.

Advertising and marketing it is just part of having a business and a consistent business expense. ALL business owners/entrepreneurs need to educate themselves about advertising/marketing and then do it (or hire someone to do it for them). Period. (And marketing is a whole 'nuther subject to learn, aside from everything you have to learn about whatever business you get into in the first place!)

Maybe it's not what you meant, but the way you worded your post sounded like you're looking for a legitimate way to make money AND a done-for-you marketing system. In other words, it sounds like you're looking for a push-button automated thing and as someone else mentioned, there is no automated, push-button solution. Period!

3. You will get a tremendous amount of advice here, so information overload and confusion is common. Before you get started though, carefully choose your business model.

IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

1. Products
2. Services

That's it!

And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

1. Membership-based model

A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

2. Product-based model

Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows to to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

3. Service-based model

Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

Pick just ONE!

1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

3. Pick ONE business model.

Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS!

F -- Follow
O -- One
C -- Course
U -- Until
S -- Successful

In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you're REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

Hope this helps!

Michelle

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Well, I will try to be nice, but I do have to warn you - it is not a requirement for anyone to be nice and sometimes it is those people who appear insulting or evil that can give you some good advice.

Yes, it was FANTASTIC but now I'm slapping you with a virtual wet noodle as I am wondering where is your sig! :p

Ok, where was I. Oh yeah.

Ok, so here is what I want to know.

16 years. 16 years is a very long time. Although, I completely understand when someone has 2 jobs that that time can also go very fast. I have been there - working more than one job at a time to make ends meet, working extra hours, coming home so tired and wired that I can't sleep but realizing I have less than 8 hours before I have to be back to work again. It is hard.

If you are working this hard just to sustain yourself, it is going to be next to impossible to start your 3rd job - yes, a 3rd job which is your online business. I say next to impossible, but not impossible all together.

But to make it go, it has to be given the most importance. Like the baby in the house. It gets the priority and you have to be willing to sacrifice what ever it takes to keep the baby alive.

You sir have a dead baby there. Sorry, that is just the way I see it. If you are not making any money and not giving time to the business doing things that will make it grow, then it is dead in the water.

Checking your email is not going to make you money. Reading ebooks and joining lots of affiliate programs is not going to make you money. Not saying this is all you have been doing - and in fact this is what I want to ask you -

What have you been doing?

Do you have a business plan?

In one sentence, tell me, what is the purpose/goal of your business? What thing do you provide the public that they need?

What does your research tell you? Where do the people you are trying to target hang out? How many of them have you helped? How many connections have you made?

What is the pricing on product/services you offer? Does someone offer a better deal? If so, what have you done to make your offer stand out more?

How many pages do you have up on the web? If I do a google search, will I find your product some how?

How easy are you to contact - or how easy is it for me to get help as a consumer of what ever you are offering should I need it?

Do you have tools in place to test/track/and tweek results? What information have you gathered? What have you changed about a specific marketing strategy to try to increase conversions?

This is just a small sample of questions, but how many of them can you answer?

You're going to have to invest in some basic things if you want to have a viable presence on the net, and the bare minimum would be hosting and a domain in most cases.

If you're not even comfortable spending about $10 a month on this, then internet marketing may not be for you. Alternatively, you could write articles or offer some IM related service so that you can pay for these basic monthly expenses.

If you're looking to make money on the internet without spending any money, be prepared to slog it out - it definitely won't be easy initially, and don't expect instant results either.

Paul

P.S. You can definitely forget about the "automated" part in the beginning, this is a myth that you had better clear out of your head if you want to make any headway in IM.

Hi Mycashcreator,

There have been over 49 posts on this your topic . But none has given you spot on method or product to make money online.

I did post a link to a product that's selling well online for those looking to make money online but it has been removed for some reasons, probably by the controllers of this site.I tend to be unsure what to post here sometimes.There is no meaningful help here that could be without a link to some where-in most cases this link has helped others.Anyway, that's another topic.

That there has been over 49 posts with no real direction should tell you one thing- no spot-on system or product is out there.To make money online you will need to work hard as you would in any other field. If there was an easy means out there to pick money, everyone will be rich today because we will all run to there.

Here is what i have found as it affects IM. You could make money from one or both of this

1) Make your own excellent product and sell online. It's got to be a good product that buyers will like.If you get your product right, you will make money online. This is difficult,sin't it? I can hear you say yes. You may be right. The skills to do that might not be for every body but know that some people are gifted to do this.

2) If you can't produce a fantastic product that would thrill others to buy,it could be because you are not gifted to do that.But there're others who can do that for you.That's why if you can't produce a top selling product, you promote top sellers produced by others who have the gift. It's called affiliate marketing.There are sure excellent products out there,selling very well. Pick them and sell online, you make money.This is the easiest bit. It's very easy to find best selling products,pick them and make money by selling them.Buyers are buying from others, so why won't they buy from you?

To wrap it all, you make money online by either selling what you have produced(if you can produce one top seller) and/or you sell top sellers produced by others.

3) The 3d thing you may like to know and need is traffic.Regardless of whose product you are selling online, to make money you will need traffic or buyers .You will need to be able to drive traffic to that product you want to sell.There are ways that this can be done.This is where the hard work comes in but it's possible and we are all doing it,so you can too.

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Good luck.