I finally know what I am going to do, but now I do not know how to do it!?

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This is probably going to be the most important post I think I will ever post on WF as I am finally taking "real" action. Okay a little bit of background to me first: I started basic I.M. 6 months ago, made roughly $700 and have re invested most of that into my business. So I am starting with a $200 budget to do what I am planning below. Also I am not very good with websites and what not. But any way here is what I am planning on doing.

Budget:$200-$300.
Aim from project: 1 sale per day.
I got my niche(s) it took me 6 months but i'm here.
I have hosting and 1 domain for the niche in question which is currently a bad looking sales page.
I have some SEO software and a bit of experience.

So here is the plan, but the problem is I have no idea about going about doing it...

1.) Set up a squeeze page for this niche "revealing a secret in return for email submits" which will collect email submits, build list ect, this then links to:

2.) Another page/site with video revealing said secret. This page then links to:

3.) Video sales page for main product ebook. With checkout services leading to the upsell pages

4.) 2 Upsells with checkout services (success or failure) after still leading to next upsell, then after the cpa offer they are sent download link.
1. mp3 file for niche. 2. CPA offer.

Anyone tell me how to do any of these steps? I love the idea but just cannot get started. How much would it cost for someone to do this? I have tried odesk in the past and well let's just say it did not work.
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  • aweber.com for #1 and #2, paypal for #3.

    As for the rest, really don't overwhelm yourself if you've never set up something like that. Make money with your funnel from #1-3 first, then specialize, create up/downsells and other venues for your funnel. Build the mainstreet first and optimize it to be profitable, then add as many sidestreets as you want.

    Trust me, if you want to tackle everything at once what you've written about in OP, you'll get stuck several times, disappointed, quit, looking for the next big thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
      Originally Posted by BacklinkExcellence View Post

      aweber.com for #1 and #2, paypal for #3.

      As for the rest, really don't overwhelm yourself if you've never set up something like that. Make money with your funnel from #1-3 first, then specialize, create up/downsells and other venues for your funnel. Build the mainstreet first and optimize it to be profitable, then add as many sidestreets as you want.

      Trust me, if you want to tackle everything at once what you've written about in OP, you'll get stuck several times, disappointed, quit, looking for the next big thing.
      But I would like to rank the squeeze page also for the keyword I am going for, which means I need a domain not just a page hosted by aweber. Would it be easier to pay someone to do all this?
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      • Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

        But I would like to rank the squeeze page also for the keyword I am going for, which means I need a domain not just a page hosted by aweber. Would it be easier to pay someone to do all this?
        Right, you definitely want to host the squeeze yourself and not let aweber do it, however in your OP you stated that you already have a domain? You can slap the squeeze page on the homepage and have the salesletter in a subfolder, like mysqueezepage.com/salesletter

        Paying someone to rank you is certainly easier than doing it yourself but depending on your keywords your budget might not be enough. Since you say you already have some seo software, why not try it out yourself, put the software to use and see how far you come? That way you'll at least pick up some basic seo principles and can then better decide what kind of seo you need help with and what you can do yourself.
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        • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
          Originally Posted by BacklinkExcellence View Post

          Right, you definitely want to host the squeeze yourself and not let aweber do it, however in your OP you stated that you already have a domain? You can slap the squeeze page on the homepage and have the salesletter in a subfolder, like mysqueezepage.com/salesletter

          Paying someone to rank you is certainly easier than doing it yourself but depending on your keywords your budget might not be enough. Since you say you already have some seo software, why not try it out yourself, put the software to use and see how far you come? That way you'll at least pick up some basic seo principles and can then better decide what kind of seo you need help with and what you can do yourself.
          Sorry my bad I meant pay someone to set up the whole squeeze to reveal to sales to upsell system, the SEO is something I find easy "phew".

          As for the first paragraph you said you may as well have said it in Spanish, okay I think I will try to create a squeeze page on my domain, are there any wordpress squeeze page themes? plugins? to make it easier?
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Santos
        Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

        But I would like to rank the squeeze page also for the keyword I am going for, which means I need a domain not just a page hosted by aweber. Would it be easier to pay someone to do all this?
        He was suggesting Aweber to build your mailling list. Another key word he mentioned is "funnel." Always get them in your sales funnel (via e-mail).

        As for keyword ranking, you could pay for professional SEO services or you could learn on your own. Fiverr might have some steals on basic SEO work as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

        But I would like to rank the squeeze page also for the keyword I am going for, which means I need a domain not just a page hosted by aweber. Would it be easier to pay someone to do all this?
        Tom, you won't have a 'page hosted by aweber'...

        Aweber is a third-party service provider for your autoresponder/mailing list(s). Once you set up your account, you'll get a piece of code to embed in your squeeze page that will allow people to add themselves to your list. Last time I looked, Aweber had some excellent training materials to lead you through the process.

        So, in that respect, you're right. You do need a domain and hosting.

        I would second BLE's advice to take things on in chunks. Once you have the front end working and profitable, you can start adding bells and whistles which can add to your profits.

        At this stage, any upsells/downsells etc. that you add would be based on a guess - either your own, or someone advising you.

        Build this the same way you eat an elephant: one bite at a time...
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        • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Tom, you won't have a 'page hosted by aweber'...

          Aweber is a third-party service provider for your autoresponder/mailing list(s). Once you set up your account, you'll get a piece of code to embed in your squeeze page that will allow people to add themselves to your list. Last time I looked, Aweber had some excellent training materials to lead you through the process.

          So, in that respect, you're right. You do need a domain and hosting.

          I would second BLE's advice to take things on in chunks. Once you have the front end working and profitable, you can start adding bells and whistles which can add to your profits.

          At this stage, any upsells/downsells etc. that you add would be based on a guess - either your own, or someone advising you.

          Build this the same way you eat an elephant: one bite at a time...
          Hi John and yeah I know what you mean, I was on about you know when you create a web form, the final option on aweber says have aweber host your form and it is some random address: aweber.com/webforms/548893948539 Something like that.

          Yeah I need a code then insert into a video squeeze page I know about this but it is a bit of a pain making a video squeeze page, well more I just do not know how to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

    I am finally taking "real" action.
    Your brief time here has not left anybody questioning your ability to do that, Tom. Even with some of your less successful online activities, you've always been willing to take action and "get stuff done", and I commend you on it, and it will always stand you in good stead. You're not someone we worry about on those grounds.

    Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

    I am not very good with websites and what not.
    You're more than adequate. You're better than me at that, and I make a living.

    I'm not qualified to advise you on practical/technical details of anything you've mentioned (except that I certainly agree Aweber would be highly suitable for you), but of course loads of others here are. I'm just posting to say I think it all looks a good plan and to wish you well with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    1. A "squeeze page". Sometimes people talk about this as something of mythical proportions. Hey, it's just a plain, simple, regular HTML file (as any web page) where yuo insert the optin form that you received from your AR (autoresponder) provider, like aweber...

    2. That would be the page where the subscribers arrive either:
    - after submitting the form
    or
    - after clicking on the confirmation link in the first email

    3. Sales page is a sales page. No matter whether you use video or text on it.

    EVERYTHING up till here is basic HTML page creation. You can do it with a wysiwyg html editor or you can outsource it for a few dollars...

    From the second sentence in #3... things get more compliacted!

    Most payment processors do NOT have a built-in "upsell" feature, so YOU have to organize the flow of your 'funnel' to get them to up/downsell pages.

    Some of the next steps are not clear, for me at least. I am wondering if they are clearly outlined in your head...

    And just a note: if after I paid for my purchase and you force me to fill out some crappy CPA thing before I get my product that I paid for - I will ask immediately for a refund and will complain at your payment processor (to close your account). Just saying - and I am not the only one thinking like that!
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    • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      And just a note: if after I paid for my purchase and you force me to fill out some crappy CPA thing before I get my product that I paid for - I will ask immediately for a refund and will complain at your payment processor (to close your account). Just saying - and I am not the only one thinking like that!
      No, you don't have to do this, I may just email it to list maybe a week later, I think this would be easier and less imposing
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  • Profile picture of the author RemingtonSteele
    While it's good to have an overall plan or vision for how you'd like things to play out, the reality is that these plans will almost always change as you go along, especially if you have no experience doing whatever it is that you're planning to do. Personally, I would test the niches on a small scale first before setting up all of the backend sales routes. You're going to run yourself ragged trying to set up the entire, "finished" system before you even get your first subscriber, and then you could discover that the niche is a dud.

    So, set up a few landing/squeeze pages for your niches, and then focus on getting quick traffic from non-search-engine sources (because it takes time to get ranked, and you're going to have a hard time ranking a squeeze page unless it's a non-competitive keyword or there's a lot of other SEO'd content on the page, which defeats the purpose of a squeeze page). See how it goes, and if you think the niche is a winner by your standards, then work on setting up SEO'd Web properties that are meant to drive traffic to your squeeze pages. These could be blogs, static HTML sites, Web 2.0 pages, press releases, wikis, etc. Of course, you need to drive traffic to these other satellite properties, too.

    Another way to do it is to get the traffic first, and then work on list building and monetization (this is my preferred way of testing niches). You seem really keen on doing SEO, so what you could do is set up a content-rich blog for each niche, get the blog posts ranked, and then see how much traffic you actually get for the keywords that you've chosen. (Keyword tools are not always accurate, so you may find that a keyword that supposedly gets a lot of searches ends up producing very little traffic, even if you're ranked #1. You could test keywords via AdWords before doing SEO if you are so inclined, but that's quite a bit of work and could exceed your budget of $200-$300. There's a way to do it very inexpensively with AdWords, whereby you purposely bid just high enough to show up on the first page so that you can track impressions [number of impressions is a better indicator of the actual number of searches] for each keyword while getting few or no clicks, but the amount of preparation you'd need to do to set that up would be about the same as for SEO, so you may as well just do it the "free" way.)

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
    Thanks for the info and thanks Alexa from earlier, I am currently creating my squeeze page.
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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      What you described is a sales funnel, right? You don't need someone reinvent the whole funnel for you. That's what the right software does. "Right" being the operative word. It just so happens that I have exactly what you need and it's all point and click, easy as 1-2-3 and I'm not even using it right now, I can add unlimited admins if you want to try it free and save a lot of time you can set one up in 10 minutes with upsell, downsells, exits, and use your own domain, Let me know, I don't bite.

      Hey, I just thought of something. You're probably like most people who don't like be given anything in the blind like that - unless it's your mother - so how about this? You can have free access for building me one of those sales funnels and that way I don't have to. One complete one like yours every month and then two when you get real good at it.

      I also have a lifetime autoresponder with Ewen Chia you can use - I don't use that either, So when you set yours up, set mine up too and you get a free ride. Anyone else want a deal like that? How about VPS Cpanel hosting? Name it. I'll hook you up and while you do yours, you can do mine at the same time. You pay with time instead of cash but not both. Both is too expensive.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        For more squeeze page help check your previous threads as there were some good answers there when you asked about them.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-confused.html

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-problem.html

        I give you credit for being willing to take action - but I take away credit becuase you continue to produce plan after plan without details and you don't stick with any plan more than a week or so before you are posting 'it's not working' or 'I give up'.

        Outline in DETAIL (for yourself - not for others to read) exactly the steps you need to take to create a "system" around your site/product. Set goals for time needed to complete each step - and stay with it long enough to finish the process.

        If you had laser focused the effort you've put in for the past couple of months you'd probably have a working system in place by now. Stick with it!

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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    I just realized in your thread title you gave a very essential description of the whole IM stuff
    I finally know what I am going to do, but now I do not know how to do it
    One of the very well-known marketers in this forum has been quoted as saying this:
    Give them for free the WHAT and sell them the HOW! - or something like that... hope you got the idea
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    Look at what the competitors in your niche are using.

    Speak to the site owner and ask them how they created the site? If they outsourced it who did they use? Competition is good for most niches, tell the site owner that you will add a banner for their product inside your members area in return for this info.

    In terms of payment I recently used digiresults and getting the paypal button online was just a case of linking the button to a url. Now that I've made sales I'm listed in their marketplace and hopefully this will help me get affiliates to promote as you can give away direct 100% commission.
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    Create a unique information product and promote it using SEO and other established methods. Have a plan and stick to it! Nothing is as important as having a plan (any reasonable plan) and sticking to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
      Hey Tom,

      Sometimes you will discover that what you had been searching for is right under your nose!

      I would have given you some links but just 'Google' your needs and see what results will come out.

      If you are able to get these useful tips by yourself online, i am sure that it will boost your IM confidence.

      Try it right now.
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